The Dink Network

It would be fun to bring more dinkers here, and a way is to improve the whole game.
Im talking about maybe do:

*Multiplayer
*All-converted to 3D
*An inventory with armor pieces(like helm, chest-piece etc.)

I dont now how and who that should try to do it, just wanted to share my thoughts
(sorry if threads like this have been posted before)

In other words, you're going to create a Dink version of RuneScape... or RuneScape version of Dink.

Multiplayer maybe someday.

3D isn't that in SimonK's upcomming D-Mod Necromancer? (When is it comming anyway? It could be soon. SIMONK! )

Armor is easy to be done and already used in a few D-Mods I'm also planning to do it myself.

All these things is old ideas I think, and will never be dealt with. Too mch time for nothing I guess.

WOW! No one had EVER thought of doing that before!

As has been said many times before, these upgrades will probably never be applied to Dink Smallwood.

However, Seth (creator of Dink, of course) is currently working on an RPG which I believe is 3D, and he seems to mention Dink in most posts related to it lately.. so there is the slight possibility that a Dink 2 is in the works. But let's not jump to conclusions.

Oh yes! Seth will release a 3D Dink II soon! Excellent!

Dink II?!? Cool, I hope it's true

Hey, the Windemere project was around for a while, too, which was supposed to be a Dink II too. The 3D thing is new to me, though.

Found on rtsoft.com:

Picked up an intel macmini and linux box, and now have the new gameproject fully running on PC, OSX universal binaries, and linux. Cool!

The game engine itself is taking shape, it now has rigid bodyphysics and LUA scripting.

Starting to move into AI, it's a blast working on this, kind of my chance to take my time and build a game engine right. Man, if only I'd had this while making Dink!

So what's the new game? Uh, I'll get back to you on that.
- Seth

Hint hint!

I DID read that on the site, yes, but if it'd really be Dink...

Mmk.. my bad, my memory is apparently quite spotty because I see nothing about 3D on RTSoft's site. But I never said I was definitely sure, so.. My apologies anyway for getting your hopes up, some of you. (though I prefer 2D personally)

The post Simeon quoted was from just two or three weeks ago; here's an older one from January that also alludes to Dink (and mentions 2D, d'oh):

I've been puttering away fulltime on new games for a few months now.

I've got two projects going but the one that is most interesting to me is a hardware accelerated 2D game - I've been working on the game engine and editor and it's pretty sharp. Supports some really nifty features, for instance, internally, it doesn't use tiles at all, but the editor can emulate tiles, even using many tile sizes in the same map! (Thanks for the idea, Lerc!)

As a test, I wrote an importer for the original Dink map, it was neat seeing the entire Dink map with full zoom capabilities, you can smoothly zoom out from one screen to show the entire map at once! I put up some screenshots here and here.
Uh, just to be clear the new game doesn't use Dink tiles, it's just a test.

Note how he says the new game doesn't use Dink tiles, but he doesn't say that the new game isn't a new Dink. Also, he's working on two projects. Hrm... I sure wish he'd announce something, it's been a pretty good while since we saw something totally new out of the RTSoft camp, for those of you who keep up with it.

Yeah, I remember those screenshots (screenshot 1 and screenshot 2) - it's nice I guess a new Dink game would bring new people and make the community more active again.

The Dink map looks bare without sprites.

You have no idea how hard it was not say something to the effect of "Multiplayer? YAWYRAYRYARAAARRAGGGHH STFU N00000000B!!"

YAWYRAYRYARAAARRAGGGHH STFU N00000000B!!

I wholeheartedly agree...

I think we all love Dink because of the way it is. There a lot of multiplayer games, 3D games, etc, but dink is one of the few that have the posibility to make those cools things called DMODS. This is the only thing that keeps it actual after almost 9 years.

Yes, maybe you are right

Ehm I fell out now. Is Seth making Dink 2?

You don't take any time to read all the posts, do you? Basically, he hasn't announced Dink 2 specifically, but there's reason to believe it might be his next project.

It... is coming? Awesome! Your previous post made me really depressed about it. It's good to hear Seth's working on a DSII, after all!

There's more than the options of he's working on it or he is not working on it. In this case, he is *probably* working on it, but we don't know for sure. Hell, he could be working on something entirely new, we just don't know.

...you people really blow my mind.

Wouldn't it be possible to make a 2 player Dink game where you will always stick together like in the same screen? And that if someone leaves the screen the other one automaticly follows? I don't know if it's possible with the stats but in the worst case they could be shared too. It may not be much but if it works its a good beginning.

Go ahead and rewrite the engine N stuff lol

he doesn't have to. redink1 has already scripted something like that, iirc, but it was far from flawless.

heh. to quote, "there's the right way, the wrong way, and then there's the redink way"

SOB3: Necromancer is going to be 3D!

Last I heard was it was "terminated", is it still going? If so it calls for a celebration!

How many times do I have to say? Simon releases Necromancer tomorrow! Just ask him.

Whaaaat?! Tomorrow?!?

cool!!

What? Tomorrow? No way!

*trembling with excitement*

Christiaan, you are evil

LoL.

Well who wouldn't want to believe something nice like that. Although it has been said before that Necromancer is going to be released next day.

As Christiaan said yesterday and probably a more often before that, Necromancer will be released tomorrow.

I already knew that joke, though it would work better with a sign or something. Because the sign would say "it's released tomorrow" every day. Can't say the same of these posts, as they have a date attached to them.

If someone can help me with my ideas and skill set, we could make a Dink style multiplayer online game, but it uses a totally different engine. The Quake2 Engine. Yes I know, your wondering why use a multiplayer Deathmatch game to make a multiplayer RPG? Well its becuase for one, I was making an RPG with a programmer, and we got halfway done with the project but quit do to different interests in ideas and what we wanted. But since you guys are into the 2D aspect of game design, and used to top-down-view... we or who ever could make a 3D version of Dink, using the Q2 engine. This is all we will need to make it.

Modelers: To make items, characters, weapons, ect.

Map Designers: Like me, I can design and make maps for the Q2 engine and game.

Programmers: Ones who know C++ and can tear appart or redesign the Quake2 engine, and yes! There is a free source!

Texture Artist: Like me, can create textures for walls, floors, and other things like that.

Skin Artist for Models: Someone who knows well how to texture models, I could do it, but I am not good at it as I am with textureing wall and floor textures.

Story Editor: Someone to make a story for the game, and do Quests.

If somoene wants to do this, and want to be serious, then let me know here! I would love to get back into game design with Quake2 and make an awsome RPG style remake for all of us Dink lovers.

Hm, why not at least the Quake 3 engine? Wasn't the source to that released some time ago?

I like Quake 2 better as its easier to work with and I am used to and the graphics are not too fancy. I do not think the engine should not matter as long as its 3D looks half decent and has a very good game style and game play.

Forgot to post this too, The Q2 Engine source is free, not the Q3 engine. Also I only have Q2 and worldcraft plus texture editors on my computer right now, and not Q3.

Must have been recent, becuase when I was working on "Band" an RPG style game using the Quake2 engine it was not even out. But anywas I rather it be Q2 engine as it can run in software mode for slower computers.

Multiplayer = need a server, need a server = need hundreds of pounds a month, need hundreds of pounds a month = impossible... Unless you charged money to play it, advertised it and got advertising on it..

Aswell as that, nobody around here could be arsed to code a multiplayer version.

Dink 2 seems very unlikely to me, I would say seth's probably working on something completely new..

Sorry to be so pessimistic, but it's just what I think , thats why I left this place, dink's going under.. Sorry.

No, Q2 has max player settings, and this is good for controlled servers. We should not worry about hackers in early stages, we can work through people hacking there characters later. So we can save character info on the clients computers not servers. Right now we could use the Q2 engine to have several servers at once. You can host Q2 with 1Mbps or faster connections, and 56k can play just fine too if the server is good enough. Rather it be 1 and 1 players or 1 - 8 players. The whole idea is to be able to play together in multiplayer, even if the server is DSL or ADSL or Cable. That was the whole point of using the Q2 engine, not to be a mmorpg, but more of a multiplayer rpg that can be played on any server, not just 1 server dedicated to all clients. Think of it as like Diablo or Diablo II, where you have multiple servers hosted and listed that the user can choose between to join and play.

Their entry on Dink Smallwood says it's only a Binary/data file release. Tsk. Slow to update, I'd say.

if there is going to be a dink mmorpg like runescape i hope there wont be any members subscription

o.k. no I think i can speak for everyone when i say there will NEVER be a dink smallwood MMORPG. It would just ruin a good thing what with all you kids what with your "lol's" and your "OMFG! STFU N00b'S"

And the fact that Dink is one cool dude, and his coolness could not be evenly distributed among several wannabe cool dudes.

you would have to like, throw in chuck norris and mr.t whose coolness could be evenly distributed between many wannabe cool dudes

What we need is a game that features Chuck Norris, Mr. T, MacGyver.. and maybe some other tough guys. I'm thinking Little Mac.

mmm....dont know who little mac is

Yeah cant say i have any idea who Little Mac is.. Theres Tal again making up people, doesnt know where the heck he is in life. For the multiplayer talk, yeah i scrapped the dink mmo i was working on.. When i fixed 1 error 5 more errors sprouted from it meaning i wasnt actually fixing it just making myself feel better by saying i was. I have to say though, the 5+ people on the same screen error was PRETTY dang cool, and the fireball error.. *giggle* anyways, yeah it wont happen. as people have said it would ruin Dink

Yeah.. I'm making up people.. from classic video games.

It is what happens when one has a first name that sounds as though it were made up anyway...

Over a million search results. Eat it.

Also - aren't all names technically "made up"?

wait, your name is Talmadge?

No, his dad's name is Talmadge...

I'm Talmadge the third, matter o' fact.

Also - aren't all the names technically "made up"?
There's a Finnish name "Ukko" which means the same as geezer

Hey, man... y'all new I was gonna do it. They knew, they all knew, man... Now look at 'em... it's hell man... there is no hell, it's here on earth, man. Right here, this is god-frickin' dang ground zero bullshoot we're talking about. Right here... and now... It's the n00bs, man... n00bs... they like come out of the trees, and BAM! MULTIPLYER PLEZ?! And you lost a whole friggin piece of time. It's crazy shoot, man. Like the world turned to a whole zoo of the danged eatin each other to live and the n0obs with their dead eyes... their dead eyes staring back at you like... like the grinning corpse of your best buddy who's missing the back of his head. This is 31st layer of hell, man... right here.

EDIT: I mean, is that you, rp64?

Quit bitin' my style, yo.

I would think that it was Josh, but it is missing his signature derogatories made from his vocabluary: Mitten, screw, hole, crap, ass, donkey, complete, pepcid, fudge, doublefudge, motherfudge, ass, extreme, dude, total, wipe, wire, toy, fireball, headless duck, ghost knight.

well not to bring old posts up without a good reason, so I take no one is even willing to try to make Dink 3D the simpleist way possible? I still have Worldcraft, Quake2, and Wally. I am still able to texture and make maps for Quake2, just need someone willing to program this idea. Without a programmer this cant happen period. But if yall gave up on the idea totally just let me know here. Becuase Dink is taking up space on my computer, and I am past 2D games, hell I cant even run 640x480 games anymore, I have to run them window mode. So are yall guys going to keep up with the times, or not? Technology is changing so fast, at least with Quake2 you can run 1920x1080 32 bit, which would be awsome for an RPG like Dink. Especially if you want it 3D. Heck it even can run in software mode like I said years ago. Try running Q3 or any other engine in software mode that is as easy as the Quake2 engine? I bet you have a hard time finding an engine as flexible as Quake2...

Thanks again guys and the community. Hope to hear what yall think one last time!

Dink 3D... that would probably require a new engine to be written.

There is a open source for free for Quake2 off www.idsoftware.com all it takes it some programming and changing the camera posistion to be top view and someone with model editing/creating and textureing expereince. I can make the maps if you wanted and the textures in the map... Its very easy to do for a programmer with expereince in programming in C++.

But the Quake engine was made for FPSs and I'm not sure of any good, free rpg engines.

Ace is right; we need to keep up with the times! Let's start beheading ducks with shotguns!

The graphics of the original game are made for use in screens with 620x400 pixels, so if you're playing it on 1920x1080 you'll have a pretty tiny portion of the screen actually covered by the actual game (= windowed mode). The other option would be to stretch the original graphics, but that would be the same kind of situation we have now.

So if you can't use the old graphics and you're using a new engine it'd probably be impossible as well to play old DMODs with it. So really, it ends up being a completely different game.

This is like EA taking a first person shooter and calling it 'Need for Speed'. Sure, you could make a new game this way, but it wouldn't be Dink.

There's nothing wrong with 2d games. The reboot of Rocket Knight looks awful compared to the 16 bit versions.

I still like Leaf Green

I dont mean Dink the Quake2 I mean make a new RPG with the style and look of Dink but just better graphics, I can make new textures or can even use old textures and modify them to fit for Quake2 style. I have already done some of this with a MOD/Remake called Band (as in band of players) and have the source for it. I was just hoping I could find a programmer who was willing to dabble into Quake2/Band source and help my Vision and many others of a RPG with a Deathmatch edge if you can understand the dynamics of this game.

Have Dink style story mode, NPC's, and Monsters and all the players, custom armor/weapon parts for the players so they all look different. And be able to level up off fight monsters and everyone else. Have a full range of inventory/status features and allow levels higher than 99 maybe 999 max. It can be done top view, its just no one really has tried to something like this. The closest I seen is some MOD that has a level system but no custom content and graphics and it done have swords, axes, and armor. All it has was normal Quake2 weapons.

Anyways, I was not trying to imply to make Dink 3D, but make a game simular to Dinks style but in 3D with custom graphics and maps.

They're making a new rocket knight game? Why have I not been informed?!?!?!?!

Well, as much as I love seeing a new game in that series, the transition from 2d to 3d does look terrible... Not to mention completely unnecessary, since it's still a sidescroller.

I'm not sure you'll find many people willing to learn new languages and such, just to make a 'Dink 3D', which is effectively what you are suggesting. I'm not saying it's a bad idea, I actually like your plan, but as I said, not many people would be too willing to help with something like this.

But what about Novashell, though? Has anyone ever thought of making something Dink related to this. I know the download comes with a quick demo of what you can do, and I thought it was pretty cool. I mean, it's not 3D, but you know... scrolling screens, a little more realism with the turning and speed stuff. Doesn't it all sound wonderful? I might actually give it a go, someday.