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Steam sucks!

August 2nd 2011, 06:15 AM
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Killersong96
Peasant Male Turkey
A horse! A horse! My banana for a horse! 
Just yesterday my internet was gone, and I wanted to play a game on steam it gave me an option to start in offline mode. When I clicked on it he said something about not finding any user, but at all I couldn't play a game, I mean don't it suck when I want to play a game like Morrowind but I need to be connected to internet?
August 2nd 2011, 06:17 AM
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Umm... can't you play it without using steam?
August 2nd 2011, 06:42 AM
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Skull
Peasant Male Finland bloop
"I'd like to be a tree..." 
I think Steam's pretty much for game addicts. Just like PSP and Nintendo DS and all that sorta stuff.
August 2nd 2011, 07:20 AM
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yeoldetoast
Peasant Female Australia steam
discord.gg/Ukugfbh 
If you bought a game in the past and didn't like it or you finished it, you'd lend it to a friend whereas now you're stuck with it forever if you bought it on Steam or GFWL (or at least until they go bankrupt or close for some reason).

I haven't bought anything from there for ages. Digital distribution really rustles my jimmies.
August 2nd 2011, 08:27 AM
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GlennGlenn
Peasant Male Norway steam
GlennGlenn doesn't want a custom title. 
Steam is the best game distribution system ever made in history. Think of having 60 retail copies of different games in a shelf, gathering dust and stuff. Nasty.
August 2nd 2011, 08:32 AM
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merder
Peasant Male Netherlands xbox steam
The Voice in the back of your head! 
well steam is just a gaming platform and it doesn't allow offline play when you have on-line games(E.G. MMO games and such) and unlike skull feels Steam is just for gaming addicts but for gamers because it is one of 3 programs i know that allows you to keep in contact with friends when gaming) and if playing a few hours a day like me doesn't make me an addict IMHO(that would be the same like calling someone who follows a series on TV a TV addict). steam is also usefull if you want to ask a friend to a game without going trought the hassle of finding him in the game, knowing his ip and checking if he's home via whatever means(steam does all it all you have t d is open the chat and ask and your done if you both have the game and since some are freeware on it that should be a big issue)
August 2nd 2011, 08:32 AM
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Thats exactly why Playstation Store and Playstation Network are awesome. No need to waste car fuel to go to a shop and buy a UMD or Bluray so it can get wasted.
(This was a reply to GlennGlenn's post, y'see)
August 2nd 2011, 09:08 AM
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Quiztis
Peasant Male Sweden steam bloop
Life? What's that? Can I download it?! 
It's the best gaming distribution service that currently exists. I, for one, don't want to have piles of CDs and DVDs lying around and it really encourages people to buy the games instead of lolling about on Piratebay and the likes. It's the future.
lol, of course you can't play online games offline. Steam allows all other games to play offline of course and the community is brilliant. Killersong, you can play Morrowind, maybe you haven't started the game once while you're in online mode? Try to re-validate all the files.

It's helluva convenient to just download all the games you've gotten off Steam instead of finding that CD or DVD lying around.

And the deals... THE DEALS GODDAMIT ARE UNBELIAVIBUULL!!
August 2nd 2011, 09:33 AM
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I use Piratebay for ... *gasp* I've said too much! I've said too much! *scream*
August 2nd 2011, 09:46 AM
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Killersong96
Peasant Male Turkey
A horse! A horse! My banana for a horse! 
All I am saying, it's stupid to be online to play games like TES 3 and Fallout: New Vegas
August 2nd 2011, 09:58 AM
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Quiztis
Peasant Male Sweden steam bloop
Life? What's that? Can I download it?! 
Try again. If the game says that you have to be online to play it, then there's nothing you can do. Afaik they're both offline games.

EDIT: Tried New Vegas in offline mode and it ran nicely. Your problem may be related to Steam Cloud syncing as the program uses it for saves I think.
August 2nd 2011, 10:07 AM
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merder
Peasant Male Netherlands xbox steam
The Voice in the back of your head! 
dunno about Fallout but i d know Morrowind(TES 3) is offline(mine may not be steam obtained but i do own the game) and if you cant play offline via platform do this go t your steam map to then to steamapps/common and then the the map of Morrwind there it might take some searching but you shuld find the exe there(can't check in my morrowind map as i don't have it currently installed)and use it's exe(it should then start and Steam doesn't mind as i occasionally start games i got n steam that way)
August 2nd 2011, 10:12 AM
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Quiztis
Peasant Male Sweden steam bloop
Life? What's that? Can I download it?! 
Sounds like a great solution. Play around a little in the Steam folder as almost no game is all Steam-dependent. Apart from those with Steam security.
August 2nd 2011, 10:34 AM
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Skull
Peasant Male Finland bloop
"I'd like to be a tree..." 
There must be a point where you ask yourself "Is it really worth it?".

Just sayin'.
August 2nd 2011, 11:09 AM
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scratcher
Bard Male Finland bloop
cigarette bonca 
There's certainly a fair amount of bullshoot involved... Having to be online to play a single player game? Total bullshoot. (Although, as people have said, the games you mentioned should be playable offline)

Online authentication? Also bullshoot. What If I want to install the game on a computer that doesn't have an internet connection? Well, I just download a crack that lets me do just that, which is coincidentally what every pirate downloading the game illegally use anyway.

Bullying the customer to the point of having to use a crack just makes one wonder why you bothered to pay for the thing in the first place.
August 2nd 2011, 11:40 AM
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Quiztis
Peasant Male Sweden steam bloop
Life? What's that? Can I download it?! 
You ain't supporting the developers that's for sure. And the authentication is always one-time only. There exists many alternatives to get a temporary online solution for your offline computer to authenticate your genuine copy of the game. Heck, you should be able to authenticate the game once for your account on any online computer and then play on the offline one.

Steam makes it more convenient than ever to own games. Updates, trailers, dev tools, you get everything automatically.
August 2nd 2011, 11:48 AM
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Skull
Peasant Male Finland bloop
"I'd like to be a tree..." 
So all Steam lets you do is play games that you can buy for consoles? What's the point of that. It's like a PSP, or a DS or an iPad/phone/pod/whatdoesitmatter. All they do is let games that already exist for one console, be carried with you all the time. Those who carry games with them all the time, I call addicts. So Steam lets you buy these games on a PC? Again, what's the point when you can play it on another console, in which way it doesn't take space off of your PC? Remember, games are supposed to be entertainment for a rainy day, not to be played all the time, 24/7.

Correct me if I was wrong in something, cause I'm not really familiar with Steam. But if I know anything about it, I'd say it's pretty much waste of time and money.
August 2nd 2011, 12:13 PM
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pillbug
Peasant Male United States xbox steam
Love! True love! 
So all Steam lets you do is play games that you can buy for consoles?
Isn't that true for any game you buy for the PC?

It's like a PSP, or a DS or an iPad/phone/pod/whatdoesitmatter.
I would rather play online or offline games on my computer than any of those.

All they do is let games that already exist for one console, be carried with you all the time. Those who carry games with them all the time, I call addicts.
Well, yeah. It saves your library. It's like walking around with a sack of games. However, the games are digital downloads, so you don't run into problems like scratching the disk, losing the disk, not being able to find a copy of the game you want, etc. You can just download it, and have it forever. I can see how having it forever could be a downside though.

So Steam lets you buy these games on a PC? Again, what's the point when you can play it on another console, in which way it doesn't take space off of your PC?
What if they don't have another console? What if the PC version has a lot more to it? What if they can't acquire a copy of the game they want for the console? What if they don't like their console? There are numerous reasons to want games for your PC. I believe the games are pretty much the same size (correct me if I'm wrong) as any PC game you would go out and buy, so if you buy computer games anyway, there's no difference.

But if I know anything about it, I'd say it's pretty much waste of time and money.

I haven't had Steam for very long, but it hasn't taken much time to set things up, and I haven't spent any money. I've downloaded Spiral Knights, TF2, and Terraria (last one was a prize).
August 2nd 2011, 12:17 PM
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Quiztis
Peasant Male Sweden steam bloop
Life? What's that? Can I download it?! 
Nope, PC is superior to all consoles, handheld or not. Sure some games may exist for consoles too, but they're way more expensive and locked to a console. Steam allows you to play the game on any computer around the world. I'm a gamer like the majority and I both agree and disagree with what you wrote there. If it weren't for gamers, Atari would still make pong and that's what I call a game to play on rainy days... and you can't avoid the fact that the world is computeralized (lol) nowadays and no living soul haven't used or seen a computer since the 90's. Everyone plays games all the time, everywhere! Change your view on addicts cuz everyone got a computer with them nowadays in the form of a smart/cell phone with games!

Since the PC is highly customizable if you compare it to a console, you can fill up to a bajillion games on a PC, without the need for discs etc. etc. as you would on a console. That may not apply to consoles with a HDD.
August 2nd 2011, 12:27 PM
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merder
Peasant Male Netherlands xbox steam
The Voice in the back of your head! 
also the codes you can use to install via steam are the very same needed if you'd install via disk and is completely optional but if you like a game recommended because you don't have to have the disk inserted and most games have a demo so if you try that first chances of mis-buys are reduces and occasionally you can try games for a weekend and but later if you like.

and the platform itself is free it has free games and is not like you have to get those games. and like pillbug said you don't have to worry about disk damage losing it and such also i you buy via steam depending if it is on sale you might get it cheaper then store bought games(shame i don't have the plastics needed) and there are games you could use steam to install which is essentially an official no cd patch included which is even faster on the loading times of the game.
August 2nd 2011, 01:28 PM
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But hacked PSPs are good
You can play some really nice games that are exclusively for the PSP (Crisis core, Valkyria Chronicles 2 and 3, Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep) and it's portable...
Also, I don't like Steam that much. I prefer Smoke
August 2nd 2011, 01:48 PM
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Skull
Peasant Male Finland bloop
"I'd like to be a tree..." 
Nope, PC is superior to all consoles, handheld or not. Sure some games may exist for consoles too, but they're way more expensive and locked to a console.

So first, PC's aren't meant for gaming. Consoles are meant for gaming. PC's are meant for creating games, browsing Internet. Imho, PC's are meant for everything else but gaming. Unfortunately, some great games are only playable to play on PC.

Steam allows you to play the game on any computer around the world.

Why would you need to? If you're capable of going to someplace else than your home, what's the point of playing the same games there that you play at your place?

and you can't avoid the fact that the world is computeralized (lol) nowadays and no living soul haven't used or seen a computer since the 90's. Everyone plays games all the time, everywhere! Change your view on addicts cuz everyone got a computer with them nowadays in the form of a smart/cell phone with games!

Wow, you really are a game addict, aren't ya? Basically what you said there is all jibba-jabba. Nowhere NEAR to all the people on this planet have computers nor video games. Many people have, true, but I have even friends who never play or don't have a PC. And I bet most of people over 75 have never even seen a computer or a video game console, let alone play them all the time.

Also, funny. Now that you mentioned cell phone games, those were the first games I thought were completely unnecessary. I mean, who needs games 24/7?! If you do, you are a badly ill person.
August 2nd 2011, 02:19 PM
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Cell phone games make me sick... they're worse than NES games. I prefer dedicated consoles to PCs, and I don't have any game on my PC except Dink. I use it for internet browsing etc.
Some PC games are great, but I don't like playing with a 103-button controller. I've played some games on both consoles and computers, and console versions were better.
If Tekken or Street Fighter were released on PC, you'd be screwed on the word fight
August 2nd 2011, 02:45 PM
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pillbug
Peasant Male United States xbox steam
Love! True love! 
So first, PC's aren't meant for gaming.

Alienware disagrees.
August 2nd 2011, 02:59 PM
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Skull
Peasant Male Finland bloop
"I'd like to be a tree..." 
And?
August 2nd 2011, 03:04 PM
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No! Allikitten's gone! Tal's dying! Tal's dying! Somebody call the vet... maybe this will bring her back!
EDIT: lol
August 2nd 2011, 03:23 PM
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pillbug
Peasant Male United States xbox steam
Love! True love! 
And what?
August 2nd 2011, 03:38 PM
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And I want something sweet to eat right now..
August 2nd 2011, 04:34 PM
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Quiztis
Peasant Male Sweden steam bloop
Life? What's that? Can I download it?! 
So first, PC's aren't meant for gaming. Consoles are meant for gaming.

You hear that? PC's has always been around and games has been around on both consoles and PC, tough to tell the difference nowadays. It's true that consoles are "meant" for gaming but compare an Xbox 360 to a standard PC these days. The Xbox won't come near the thing. The PC will win and if you hook up your PC to da TV screen you gets a console with graphics way over what the Xbox can give. The advantage consoles bring that I can see is the price, mobility and the specific game libraries.

Why would you need to?

I dunno, maybe my friends wants to join me for a Super Street Fighter IV tournament on his comp? All you need is my Steam account with the game.

Open your eyes, how large is the internet? We're definitely entering a computer age and I'm not only talking about gaming. I may have exaggerated a little about the world but most countries and companies are computerized today. E-mail arrives in an instant vs. snail-mail, paying your bills have never been easier, computers helps us with so many things and if that changed, the world wouldn't be the same.

"Need games 24/7"? I don't really understand what you mean by that. The thing that pops up in my mind is when you are not sleeping, not eating, skipping studies etc. etc. and only play video games which is called video game addiction. It is fun to play video games and we all agree to that, but well, play too much and it may screw up your brain or something.
August 2nd 2011, 04:45 PM
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Come back! I don't wanna do CPR with Tal! Somebody, anybody!
August 2nd 2011, 04:55 PM
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Skull
Peasant Male Finland bloop
"I'd like to be a tree..." 
I don't have a problem with Steam or portable gaming consoles as long as you don't own an actual console. But if you own one, and just want the same games you already have, onto your PC and onto these portable devices, so you can just play them all the time, that's a game addiction and is a serious problem.

I dunno, maybe my friends wants to join me for a Super Street Fighter IV tournament on his comp? All you need is my Steam account with the game.

Online gaming is something I've never understood. If I bother calling my friend to hang out with me, I usually don't want to say "Let's hang out by playing a videogame from different sides of the town while messaging or talking via our headsets". Multiplaying is still fine, cause you are actually still hanging out with your friend, but I really despise online gaming.

You're right. This world is computeralizing (you said it lol). That doesn't mean I have to like it. I like the older ways of handling things, I'm old-school in that kinda way. Plus, the more this computer age develops, the more trouble it causes us. Already we're on the edge of "is computer causing more good or more harm". Imagine what it will be like in the next 10 years.
August 2nd 2011, 05:07 PM
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Killersong96
Peasant Male Turkey
A horse! A horse! My banana for a horse! 
Really nobody should protect it, all I am saying is you shouldn't need to be online for dang offline games!
August 2nd 2011, 05:12 PM
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Absolution
Peasant
The Dark Lord of the DN. 
But you can play games offline!
August 2nd 2011, 05:16 PM
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Quiztis
Peasant Male Sweden steam bloop
Life? What's that? Can I download it?! 
I don't have a problem with Steam or portable gaming consoles as long as you don't own an actual console. But if you own one, and just want the same games you already have, onto your PC and onto these portable devices, so you can just play them all the time, that's a game addiction and is a serious problem.

Oh, that kind. Luckily I only own a wii which can't port to PC.

Online gaming is something I've never understood. If I bother calling my friend to hang out with me, I usually don't want to say "Let's hang out by playing a videogame from different sides of the town while messaging or talking via our headsets". Multiplaying is still fine, cause you are actually still hanging out with your friend, but I really despise online gaming.

Yeah, I also prefer the hangin' out with friends and play SSBB or something rather than Skyping.

You're right. This world is computeralizing (you said it lol). That doesn't mean I have to like it. I like the older ways of handling things, I'm old-school in that kinda way. Plus, the more this computer age develops, the more trouble it causes us. Already we're on the edge of "is computer causing more good or more harm". Imagine what it will be like in the next 10 years.

S-K-Y-N-E-T!!
Humans are lazy and we need servants in form of computers that often gets broken or malfunctioning all the time, but that's what computer engineers are for! I wonder how the technology will look like in 10 years... nanobots everywhere.
August 2nd 2011, 07:31 PM
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Killersong96
Peasant Male Turkey
A horse! A horse! My banana for a horse! 
I mean sometimes it don't start offline!
August 2nd 2011, 07:46 PM
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Mrgantoe
Peasant Male Cuba xbox
I'm simply a distraction. 
New person with a nice name. Just putting it out there.
August 2nd 2011, 11:22 PM
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yEoldetoast
Peasant Female Australia steam
discord.gg/Ukugfbh 
Steam makes it more convenient than ever to own games.

You don't own any of the games you buy. At any time they can be removed from your account (suspected credit card fraud etc.) and you're then unable to play them ever again. All you're buying is a serial number which can be revoked or invalidated.

I am not going to buy vidya games if the devs are going to treat legitimate customers as if they're criminals.
August 3rd 2011, 03:39 AM
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Quiztis
Peasant Male Sweden steam bloop
Life? What's that? Can I download it?! 
Umm. Yeah... Like that's ever gonna happen. Sure the games are bound to your account, but you've paid for them (you pretty much own them) and Valve may remove any game bought with a stolen credit card etc. Justice shall be done!

It's more likely that the burglar breaks in and steal your CDs and DVDs, a serial number already registered is harder to steal.
August 3rd 2011, 03:41 AM
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Why would someone break into your house just to steal your videogames?
August 3rd 2011, 03:45 AM
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Quiztis
Peasant Male Sweden steam bloop
Life? What's that? Can I download it?! 
I have no idea.
August 3rd 2011, 05:16 AM
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pillbug
Peasant Male United States xbox steam
Love! True love! 
That's why I've replaced all the disks of my good games with copies of CoD: MW2. The burglar thinks he's gaining something.
August 3rd 2011, 05:30 AM
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Killersong96
Peasant Male Turkey
A horse! A horse! My banana for a horse! 
Another dang thing. I can't play my brothers video games without his password? Really man that sucks! Game is right on "MY" computer but I can't play it?
August 3rd 2011, 06:16 AM
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Ask him what his password is. I'm sure he'll tell you.
August 3rd 2011, 06:46 AM
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merder
Peasant Male Netherlands xbox steam
The Voice in the back of your head! 
or he could lg in for you(would ve the same as having a friend come over and then having him play the game on your pc not his) and since with family computer's usually are shared so i doubt he'd make a fuss out of it
August 3rd 2011, 07:21 AM
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Skull
Peasant Male Finland bloop
"I'd like to be a tree..." 
Why would someone break into your house just to steal your videogames?

It has happened.

I really can't see Steam as "the future". It's a momentary iconic-pop-culture-gaming-device-for-your-computer. But it will fade from everyone's mind quite soon.

Just like the movie Avatar! I told you guys it wouldn't be on top for long! MWHAHAHAHAA!!
August 3rd 2011, 09:31 AM
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yeoldetoast
Peasant Female Australia steam
discord.gg/Ukugfbh 
It's still the highest grossing film of all time when unadjusted for inflation.
August 3rd 2011, 09:35 AM
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I haven't watched it yet.
My PSP has some tape on the battery cover, I acidentally broke it and couldn't find a battery cover here but I have a protective cover on it which hides the tape so it's ok I guess.
August 3rd 2011, 09:58 AM
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GlennGlenn
Peasant Male Norway steam
GlennGlenn doesn't want a custom title. 
You don't own any of the games you buy. At any time they can be removed from your account (suspected credit card fraud etc.) and you're then unable to play them ever again. All you're buying is a serial number which can be revoked or invalidated.

Not a problem at all. When you buy a game in a retail store, you have the same issue. Yeah, you've got the game on CD, but the serial can be invalidated at any time as well.

I have yet to have any of my games removed from Steam in the 6 years I've had an account.
August 3rd 2011, 10:15 AM
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Skull
Peasant Male Finland bloop
"I'd like to be a tree..." 
It's still the highest grossing film of all time when unadjusted for inflation.

A list of highest grossing films includes movies such as Pirates of the Caribbean 4, Titanic, Alice in Wonderland, Transformers, Harry Potter films, Shrek, Finding Nemo, and God knows what other horrible movies.

You see, that doesn't really mean jack. If a film makes lot of money, it doesn't mean it's a good film. Iron Man 2 made a lot of money and it sucked. The film is good if it has people speaking about it and watching it after forty (just a random number) years of its making.
August 3rd 2011, 10:37 AM
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People only bought the Harry Potter movies because of the books. The books were good. The films sucked arse, because they removed so many characters for example Neville replaced Dobby in 4 and 5 movies. I didn't like any of the movies after 2 because they were too short and boring and there were no Quidditch matches in the films.
Also, they split the 7th book into 2 movies so they could make more money. Order of the Phoenix was the longest book but the movie was too short and boring, they didn't split that one and there were no Quidditch matches or Dobby.
August 3rd 2011, 10:53 AM
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Skull
Peasant Male Finland bloop
"I'd like to be a tree..." 
The Harry Potter films will be forgotten in an instant. The only reason they may stay on surface for the next 5 years is because there are so many of them, and because of the books. Seriously, would anyone remember the first Harry Potter film if there weren't all the sequels and it wasn't based on a book series? I doubt it.