The Dink Network

G9 - Phase 1

September 4th 2006, 11:41 PM
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redink1
King He/Him United States bloop
A mother ducking wizard 
Phase 1 of Generation 9 is now complete. Changes include:

* Added Private Message forum to replace the Private Message System. This will allow you to carry on private forum conversations with multiple individuals at the same time.
* Added Previews forum for pimping your D-Mods.
* Tweaked the board header a bit.
* Merged Stories into Off-Topic.
* Merged Blog Discussions into Off-Topic.
* Merged Dink Source Discussion into Development.
* New Topic now forces you to select a category before writing your message. This should cut-down on users posting in the wrong forum.
* Web page titles are now dynamic (for the forum), instead of just 'The Dink Network'.
* The forum index now displays the file names for file discussion topics.
* Removed 'Forum' style. Now the message board will appear as one giant message board by default (like View All Forums) instead of forcing a user to select a category.
* Removed 'Threaded' and 'Column-Threaded' styles of viewing the message board index.
* Removed the smiley box from the message forms (the replacement wasn't finished yet).
* Disabled the old message system (you can still read and delete messages, but you cannot send new ones).
* Disabled the addition / modification of blogs.

Things that should be done sooner rather than later:

* Remove existing blogs completely.
* Remove existing previews completely.
* Add support for Friends into the new private message system.
* Add the new smiley box.

Any praise, suggestions, or complaints are welcome.
September 5th 2006, 12:24 AM
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slayer4990
Peasant He/Him Canada
Foppery and Whim! 
I like it, the new system what with all the categories together along with also having the choie to view specific ones like the good ol' earlier today is a big plus, I like it, the updates all seem to be for the better, good job! *golf claps*
September 5th 2006, 12:37 AM
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joshriot
Peasant They/Them United States
keep it real 
and either link every single file to its discussion or bring back the drop down menu as far as i can tell theres no way to view the topics for a particular file
September 5th 2006, 01:43 AM
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metatarasal
Bard He/Him Netherlands
I object 
Will your private messages be carried over to the private messages forum? Or will they stay the way they are now?
September 5th 2006, 01:44 AM
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At first, I thought it was a bug. Then, I thought someone had broken to my account and changed the board view to "threaded". But after reading this post, I understand... so first question...
Where has the big "Post Reply" button gone to?
September 5th 2006, 01:59 AM
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Darn, I liked having a category page... it allowed me to see what had been modified in each message board simultaneously without having to load any other pages... Overall I think that people will only be more confused because they will come to say- off-topic and think that it is the only board in the entire network, lest they click on the untitled hyroglyphic icons. But, alack, that seems to be how it is these days... people are too dumb to read so they require using symbols rather than words... talk about going primal.

EDIT: Also, we no longer get the option of seeing who was the most recent person to post on any thread without actually loading it up.

The search seems to be broke... I tried searching for my own username and it came up with exactly 0 results... I know that I have posted more than that, otherwise how could you be reading this right now?
September 5th 2006, 02:18 AM
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carrie2004
Peasant She/Her Canada
*chomp* 
Hmm.I think I like it.Yes.Yes I do.

EDIT: You know what I would like though? I mean, besides
that first thought that just popped into your head there.
Get your mind outta the gutter!
I'd like the menu buttons to always be there.The new ones,
I mean.Does that make sense?
September 5th 2006, 02:23 AM
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I neither like nor dislike it.... I really cannot find much difference, other than my belief that it is a little harder to navigate than before.

EDIT: Ohhh, and the search STILL doesn't work... I tested it all... and... the "new" search does absolutely nothing- thats just swell. Really, very little has changed, so it is hard for me to judge. The only other notification I had to there being change other than this thread was that when I had tried to visit earlier I was 401'd, and it asked me for a username and password... I gave my DN ones, it acknowledged my existence and told me to wait as changes were being made... I had actually expected the site to be down for like a week while it changed drastically, like Kikki's site.

So, Carrie... why don't you just stick to playing with unicorns and rainbows and dolls and such... I do not have time for your naive optimism.
September 5th 2006, 04:34 AM
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Phoenix
Peasant He/Him Norway
Back from the ashes 
I'd ask you to shut the fudge up, but since that's rude, I'll just ask you to keep your annoying negativity to yourself, and stop name calling. Leave Carrie alone, eh?
September 5th 2006, 04:38 AM
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Whats wrong? Has the firebird burned himself out? Maybe a bucket of water will help you....

EDIT: I know that I am being harsh.... I guess that really I am just pretty disappointed, that's all. Since you asked me so "politely" I will keep my other comments to myself....
September 5th 2006, 04:52 AM
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Phoenix
Peasant He/Him Norway
Back from the ashes 
"What's wrong?" You're what's wrong. I couldn't care less if your mother just died, your house burnt down and your car got stolen — You don't harass others because of it. Unless you are an insensitive psychopath. Think about it.
September 5th 2006, 06:21 AM
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Glennglenn
Peasant He/Him Norway
GlennGlenn doesn't want a custom title. 
I have to agree with Phoenix, VonZeppelin is a pain in the butthole.
September 5th 2006, 07:16 AM
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Simeon
Peasant He/Him Netherlands
Any fool can use a computer. Many do. 
Ah, looks nice so far - I haven't checked all pages though but the forum changes are noticeable The New Topic page looks quite weird in Mozilla though but it looks fine in IE.
September 5th 2006, 07:22 AM
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redink1
King He/Him United States bloop
A mother ducking wizard 
Hmm, it seems to look fine using Firefox... which version of Mozilla are you using?
September 5th 2006, 07:45 AM
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Simeon
Peasant He/Him Netherlands
Any fool can use a computer. Many do. 
Actually, it's just Mozilla, not Mozilla Firefox.. it's version 1.7.1 at this computer. But it's not unusable, it just looks less stylish Several things differ too but it looks like it's supposed to be like that. In IE the three buttons are in the top right corner but in this browser they're under the Lurkers - but they still function
September 5th 2006, 07:57 AM
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joshriot
Peasant They/Them United States
keep it real 
oh wait i feel it yes its coming i cant control myself uhm i think he is just attempting and failing to be witty hes not trying to sadistically belittle anyone however phoenix it appears to me that you however are. but i just like to argue against everyone dont i?
September 5th 2006, 09:39 AM
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Chrispy
Peasant He/Him Canada
I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to.I guess. 
For me, the new topic page seems to have a weird line spacing as well.

The previous line. *image 1*, *Forum title 1*

Desription of forum title 1, *image 2*, *forum title 2*

Ad nauseum
September 5th 2006, 01:25 PM
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DaVince
Peasant He/Him Netherlands
Olde Time Dinkere 
I don't really like the forum's main layout. Any chance of the forum category selector returning in the options?

Other than that, you've done a good job so far. Don't forget to add [quote] tags please?
September 5th 2006, 02:36 PM
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Simeon
Peasant He/Him Netherlands
Any fool can use a computer. Many do. 
The forum selector is still there, just click any of the icons.
September 5th 2006, 05:24 PM
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DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!

You are all a cult that makes itself out to try and make my life miserable....

Phoenix's statement alone makes me want to burn down his house and kill his mother and put HIM in stocks and laugh maniacally...

In other words, just a note... if you dislike my attitude then don't be a hypocrite and have bad attitude yourself... you end up just looking as foolish as myself...

Anyway... I am trying to calm down, and your not helping... this network all seems to be a conspiracy out to get me.... if I try and apologize, say that I have been to harsh... then I only get lampooned more...

The fact that you, Phoenix are some sort of ringleader is disconcerting... If everyone is forced to drink the koolaid and agree with everyone, then there would be no point in discussing the matter and we could just close this thread right now knowing that everyone always agrees.

Basically it is the law of equilibrium - You give me shoot, I give you shoot... in an endless circle... I guess that makes me the true hypocrite? HMMM????

Anyway, as long as I have the ability to move my hands I will continue to voice my opinion, no matter how absurd it may seem... capiche?

I would say that you are all being complete asswipes, but that would be rude, so I will just tell you that your posts sound similar to mine...

- How about that for mocking?
Therein lies another of my interests, as I find it very entertaining to mock Phoenix, since he is as adamant and unreasonable as I am.

I would love to give you all a piece of my mind, but I feel that in the end it would end up hurting me more than you, as you would just shrug it off inbetween viewings of rabbits dancing on rainbows. I fail to understand why it seems that everyone with the wizard icon is a complete donkey, but it is true- behold... Phoenix, Merlin, Chrispy... to name a few. What do I have to do to say that I do not like the changes? I try and I instantly get shot down, again and again, as though I am some sort of whack-a-mole... I am certain that as I write this someone will be drafting a perfectly senseful reprisal to my statements. Well, you can post it here, but you cannot send me hate mail via PMs because I blocked almost everybody!!

And that is another point! Why have a friends list??? If you cannot even remember your "good friends" name, why are you such good friends? But why should I complain? You won't care anyway, even though my concerns ARE about THIS WEBSITE and not about my HOUSE or my PET or my PERSONAL BELIEFS? Perhaps it is just because all of my posts seem to reek of my distinctive personality. That is only because I have a lot to go around... All of you cardboard cut-out people only wish you could have even a little personality, even though you are a mindless zombie that follows everyone else's instrucions, but hey, that is not my problem.

What is wrong with flame wars? If someone dislikes someone else, they should be able to express it rather than hide it and let it eat away at their soul every time that persons name is mentioned, it is only human nature to do so... If one does not, they must be either completely emotionless, or else just not care.

I know that I am being rude and intrusive, but heed that I can actually be a very polite, well-mannered individual. IT is just that I will not stand for something if I am against it- and I want to make sure that I can honestly state my opinion on something without being banned and or bounced out the room. Why should I lie just to make people happy? That only helps foster the everlasting hatred and induce madness upon the individual.

Feel free to voice your opinion, though it be lame, and lacking umphhh.

(some examples: "Go fudge yourself" "Your dumb" "Lay off" "Quit being an donkey" "stop shootting your pants")

The only things that I get from such comments is that the figure in general is a very rude and profane person, and also hates me and feels that my opinions are worthless. Reality check: my opinion is not worthless, but posting something just to say that I am completely wrong or evil without any supporting reason just proves that you are toady and that you require someone else to supply you thoughts, since you are Primords incapable of basic thought. If you really wanted to prove something to me, you would address the topic broadly and cover why your opinions differ from mine... otherwise your posts only waste my time and make me exceedlingly angry.

Anger is a basic emotion, easily triggered as a self-defense to try and rebuke anothers anger. As such anger is often contagious. Now, me- I tend to be an agry individual- but I have the liberty to know that I am not the only person on this site that is easily offended, else this issue would be dead and forgotten about.

Now, it is more effective if a response, rather than people monotonic and offensive, should hit closer to home. It needs to touch one's heart and mind, not one or the other, to be effective. It should be carefully concieved, thoughtfully executed, and inexcusably contemptible, without being an outright "I hate you" statement. It should create a response such as "My God, you really are warped." or "Wow, I can't conquer that.." *ouch*. It needs to HURT the individual while not be detrimental to the speaker themself. It must be handle with impunity and proceeded with absolute assurance. It must supply supporting reason- which heinous and unreasonable though it may be, is still reason from the speakers point of view nontheless- to do without is to show lack of sophistication, lack of thoughtfulness. Lastly, one must end with a statement powerful enough to make the reader turn and reflect on themselves as well as the speaker. It must be a powerful statement. A VERY POWERFUL STATEMENT THAT MAKES PEOPLE THINK.
September 5th 2006, 05:54 PM
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Tal
Noble He/Him United States
Super Sexy Tal Pal 
That was a very elaborate response given that it doesn't even pertain to the subject.

Let us please stop bickering with one another and continue to discuss the pros/cons of the changes constructively, without assaulting someone else's opinions. Further assaults on anyone else are undermining the purpose of this thread and will be deleted.

Thank you!
September 5th 2006, 05:54 PM
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cypry
Peasant He/Him Romania
Chop your own wood, and it will warm you twice. 
Everything looks better, except one thing. I think you shouldn't have removed the 'Forum' style. I liked it that way, although I can get used with this one too.
September 5th 2006, 06:24 PM
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They got the search function working... I rest my case.
September 5th 2006, 09:32 PM
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carrie2004
Peasant She/Her Canada
*chomp* 
Um, rainbows and unicorns? What am I? 12? And how come
VZ is hacking on me? He can express an opinion but I can't?
September 6th 2006, 03:04 AM
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dragon
Peasant He/Him United States
 
I feel the need to reply... not to degrade or belittle you, but to say what probably more than a few people are thinking when they read your posts. First off, I don't think everyone, or most people, here are against you. From my point of view you are taking things a little too personally, I have had that problem in my past (not here but in real life). You admit you are easily offended and quick to anger, everyone has their faults. As far as wasting your time goes, not sure what to say about that... maybe don't read a post if ya don't like the content?... also don't insult the poster if they aren't insulting you. Sure, we all have the right to our own opinions, but dang, doesn't mean you have to go insulting people left and right like you did to carrie. I know that maybe you didn't mean it to sound as harsh as it came across, but we all need to think before we post. If we all would think how a post will come across 'before' we hit the submit button, silly bickering like this shouldn't happen as often. Sure people are bound to disagree on a topic such as if we like the new format or not, but we don't have to insult each other for what we think, simply state your own opinion and be done with it or kindly disagree. That in part is what makes a decent human being, a little word called respect. And if someone lampoons you for apologizing, then they are the ones that look the fool, not you. Nuff said, PEACE!

And now back to the topic.... G9 phase 1 is looking good, gonna take a bit to get used to the new board layout, but I think it gots potential.
September 6th 2006, 04:53 AM
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metatarasal
Bard He/Him Netherlands
I object 
Hmm... I'm a bit worried that when you haven't checked the board for a little while the amount of 'new' threads can seem almost intimidating since they're all visible from one page. It could be handy to see how many new posts there are for every category.

The rest of me likes this lay-out, though I agree that it'll take some time to get used to.
September 6th 2006, 09:49 AM
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magicman
Peasant They/Them Netherlands duck
Mmmm, pizza. 
Love:
Link to file in file discussion.
Idea of PM-forum, though I'd like to see the old messages transferred in some way.
Preview forum. While I probably won't use it myself, it's cool.
Dynamic <title>

Not love:
No 'Forum' style.
File discussion forum looks messy. Don't know what it is.

Random goofyness:
The font of the lurker names is larger than the font of posts. It just doesn't feel right.
September 6th 2006, 10:02 AM
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joshriot
Peasant They/Them United States
keep it real 
If everyone is forced to drink the koolaid and agree with everyone, then there would be no point in discussing the matter and we could just close this thread right now knowing that everyone always agrees.

you know what ledzeppelin i know exactly how you feel. ive seen this also. too much. the whole (If fudgeing 7113 she dog) attitude disguised as be like me or you are wrong. ive seen it a million times. the ohh you dont use periods theres something wrong with you. why do you keep posting things that are off topic? the delete every single one of my messages just because it was posted by me. the ban me from the chat because everyone already has a personal vendetta against me and are sitting waiting for an excuse.

ive been through it all. i even left because of it. i quit the dink squad. i was like eff it. i was tired of the "better than you" attitude the "dont think for yourself" attitude the "drink kool aid and shave your head" attitude that in waves plagues this community when certain as you would say "cultleaders" pop up into positions of power. but im not going to go and say i had nothing to do with it. the fact that they treated me like this only made me provoke them more. to the point that it was a vicious cycle, nobody was being respectful or understanding, and the meaning in everything becomes lost.

dont put yourself in that same spot. i see the same thing happening to you. im trying to help you. because i didnt feel like ANYBODY was on my side. and i left because of it. and thats not a good thing.

dont provoke anyone. just be yourself. thats what i do now. i be myself. sometimes i say something a little out of line still. and ill realize it. but people will let it go if they understand thats just how you are. but crossing the line time and time again is going to get you nothing but contempt. be yourself and people will respect you for who you are. going on a verbal crusade by attacking everyone who stands in your way or tells you they dont like you isnt going to help. just tell them to fudge off and dont tell you what to do and you can say whatever the hell you want to say because they are elitest censorship control freak monkeys. but dont provoke anyone. dont be the devils advocate. all of the time. people will understand you in time but just be yourself. and dont let anyone tell you otherwise.
September 6th 2006, 10:10 AM
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Sharp
Peasant She/Her Finland
 
Request:
When you click on a discussion thread from the forum index, you don't get a link back to the index; instead you can click to go to , say, the Offtopic Forum (which was what I intuitively clicked to "go back"). Then I was confused and wondered where half of the messages went.

I think it'd be nice to have a word link back to index as well... Yea, you get there via "Board" in the header image, but it's not the same thing.
September 6th 2006, 10:49 AM
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rabidwolf9
Peasant He/Him United States
twitch.tv/rabidwolf9 
I was a little shocked at the new look, but after a couple visits, it's already feeling natural and I think it's better now. Good job Hey I just noticed, I don't see any smileys on the side anymore.. Why must blogs go? I like blogs. They are fun to read to find out more about the person and stuff like that. Also, more avatars and maybe avatar backgrounds would be cool.
September 6th 2006, 02:31 PM
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joshriot
Peasant They/Them United States
keep it real 
i guess a blog now is just post an off-topic "new topic"
September 7th 2006, 12:50 AM
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Thats right... I can post off-topic stuff here... since redink1 put it in the off-topic forum.

If he only wanted us to post things related to Dink- he would have placed it in DINK RELATED.
September 7th 2006, 02:05 AM
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Tal
Noble He/Him United States
Super Sexy Tal Pal 
I always assumed General Dink Discussion was not only for discussing the game and subjects related to it, but the website itself - I'll have to raise the issue with him, then.

As implied before, though, this pertains to something significant (website changes), so this thread should be limited to constructive criticism if at all possible. Harassment will continue to be handled accordingly.
September 7th 2006, 08:44 AM
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joshriot
Peasant They/Them United States
keep it real 
so the other day i bought this giant suitcase does anybody like strawberries strawberries are awesome except they have those leafy parts im allergic to pennies i think the sky should be purple blue is kind of trite by now and grass should be blue because blue is a sweet color pass the water i think i have a sore throat
September 7th 2006, 09:16 AM
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Tal
Noble He/Him United States
Super Sexy Tal Pal 
September 7th 2006, 09:22 AM
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Chrispy
Peasant He/Him Canada
I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to.I guess. 
September 7th 2006, 05:07 PM
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Ohh God, Chrispy's actually DinkKiller!!
September 7th 2006, 10:34 PM
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Chrispy
Peasant He/Him Canada
I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to.I guess. 
No, I'm just mocking Tal, as he is acting like dinkkiller as well.

It was meta-humor, alright?
September 8th 2006, 02:47 AM
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Tal
Noble He/Him United States
Super Sexy Tal Pal 
At least I was using it to express genuine amusement, whereas DK did it to deliberately rile my nerves
September 8th 2006, 02:56 AM
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September 8th 2006, 02:56 AM
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like that?
September 8th 2006, 07:06 AM
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joshriot
Peasant They/Them United States
keep it real 
no.
September 8th 2006, 05:35 PM
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... and by the way, look exactly how off-topic we have gotten, ONCE AGAIN.

Having the topic buttons available to use inside each board would be nice- otherwise it is hard when I want to, say - look at off-topic board, and then goto the development board, without having to go back through the main column again. I believe that THIS at lesat is a valid argument.

EDIT: Wait, Josh can post just no, and it is fine, but if I post yes, then it gets deleted. Also, I think that is unfair that the staff are biased this way because Tal simply posted , redink put a blank post out on another thread, and josh posted no. Really, they shouldn't delete others posts if their posts are just as significant... it is just an abuse of power.