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Is this normal? (Closed)

May 31st 2006, 10:39 PM
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rp64
Peasant He/Him
 
Hey guys, I just started playing dink again, and cus I hadn't played in so long, I forgot all the storyline and started a new game, shame though cus I remember I was at last boss... OH WELL! LOL! XD Anyways, I'm just mentioning that at the begginning part of the game, where dink's mother dies, I laughed for 20 minutes straight as soon as he said: "NOOO! MOTHER! I never knew how much I cared about you untill now..." And just typing that cracked me up... is this normal?! I'm SURE someone else must have laughed too... Dankeshon--- Ryan
June 1st 2006, 10:26 AM
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It was slightly amusing. I don't think I laughed for 20 minutes though... sorry to disappoint.
June 1st 2006, 10:34 AM
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Glennglenn
Peasant He/Him Norway
GlennGlenn doesn't want a custom title. 
I got sad, I think that is not normal and you should leave Internet forever
June 1st 2006, 10:41 AM
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I think perhaps it was a corny example of dramatic irony... and the corny-ness made it amusing. For an extremely brief period of time.
June 1st 2006, 11:38 AM
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DaVince
Peasant He/Him Netherlands
Olde Time Dinkere 
I don't think it's quite normal you TOTALLY forgot the story if this is one of the games you liked earlier and even came back for it. Get yer mind checked.

The NOOOO!! MOTHER!11 is kinda funny, but no more. There are funnier parts, though no SUPER-big HA-HA's in the game, I think. Except if you finish the game and think about how a pig farmer did all this.
June 1st 2006, 11:44 AM
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Erwin
Peasant He/Him Netherlands
Friendship is magic 
I nearly cried when I first payed the game.

"Except if you finish the game and think about how a pig farmer did all this."

Dink is just a warrior type who grew up as a pigfarmer so why whouldn't he be able to do it all.
June 1st 2006, 11:44 AM
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dragon
Peasant He/Him United States
 
first off, normal is a relative term... if you are comparing yourself to others here on the board, i would say you fit in nicely... we all seem to have our 'quirks'. but if you compare yourself to someone in the 'real' world, they would probably toss you in a psych ward, make you interpret those weird ink blotch things for the rest of your life, keep you away from sharp objects and never ever let you play with anything flammable.
June 1st 2006, 04:38 PM
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I don't find it normal. I find it disturbing that you and others here find something so tragic funny.
June 1st 2006, 05:09 PM
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Christiaan
Bard They/Them Netherlands
Lazy bum 
Just teasing again, I assume? 'Cause it's getting kind of old.
June 1st 2006, 07:14 PM
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Tragic? It's Dink Smallwood! Have I completely missed the point of the game here? Cause I just assumed the whole thing was tongue-in-cheek...
June 1st 2006, 08:04 PM
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carrie2004
Peasant She/Her Canada
*chomp* 
What's normal, anyways?
I suspect what is amusing about the particular line is that it's
written so 'stiff'.Do you know what I mean?
June 1st 2006, 10:35 PM
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No, Christiaan, I was serious.
June 1st 2006, 10:36 PM
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Ice, just because it's tongue-in-cheek doesn't mean it's funny.
June 1st 2006, 11:39 PM
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Striker
Noble She/Her United States
Daniel, there are clowns. 
I find it neither funny nor disturbing, just sort of pointless.
June 2nd 2006, 03:13 AM
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I find it neither funny nor disturbing, just sort of pointless.

Now that you mention I think you may be right, Striker. Shock horror I agreed with you!!
June 2nd 2006, 07:47 AM
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Sharp
Peasant She/Her Finland
 
I nearly cried when I first payed the game.

I'm beating you at this, I did actually cry
It was rather corny when played again, though, I'll admit that much.
June 2nd 2006, 09:09 AM
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Christiaan
Bard They/Them Netherlands
Lazy bum 
Then you don't get what the entire game is about. Congratiulations, you're the first.
June 2nd 2006, 09:49 AM
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Erwin
Peasant He/Him Netherlands
Friendship is magic 
Isn't the death of Dink's mother ment to set Dink free. I mean after the death of Dink's mother he could leave stonebrook.
June 2nd 2006, 10:45 AM
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Glennglenn
Peasant He/Him Norway
GlennGlenn doesn't want a custom title. 
How the heck would you feel if you lost your mother? Would you say "Hurray, time to grow up just like Dink SMallwood" or would you start cry
June 2nd 2006, 11:19 AM
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Erwin
Peasant He/Him Netherlands
Friendship is magic 
I meant that Seth micht have made it so.
June 2nd 2006, 11:32 AM
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dragon
Peasant He/Him United States
 
That's how i always viewed it erwin, she had to get knocked off somehow or else dink would never be able to leave his little village and go off to save the world. Instead he would have been stuck feeding pigs and fetching nuts for his mom until Seth and his minions overran the village and the rest of the world. If that was the case the game would have been very short and no one would be making DMODs years after its release.

Oh yeah and his mom ain't real.. she's just several lines of programming code so i dont think there is any need to be too amused or cry too much over her death.
June 2nd 2006, 01:14 PM
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Erwin
Peasant He/Him Netherlands
Friendship is magic 
What's the use of playing a game when you all the time think of that it's programming code.
June 2nd 2006, 02:10 PM
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dragon
Peasant He/Him United States
 
i dont think the whole time its programming code... i'm just tryin to put things in perspective... no use cryin over an imaginary character thats all
June 2nd 2006, 02:24 PM
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Rightio then. Yes Carrie, it was amusing because it was stiff. But it wasn't just that line that I found amusing, it was the whole game... the tongue-in-cheek feel running throughout... btw DD I didn't say funny, I said amusing. Smirk-worthy even. (Mind you, I can't remember how I felt the first time I played it, it was so long ago!)
June 2nd 2006, 04:08 PM
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VaultDweller
Peasant He/Him United States
Wanderer of the Wasteland 
Its just as Carrie said. It was so blatantly stereotyped I would have sworn it was a joke.

Though I could neither laugh nor cry since it seemed both heartfelt and silly.

Sincerely,
The Vault Dweller
June 2nd 2006, 07:23 PM
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Then you don't get what the entire game is about. Congratiulations, you're the first.

That claim is a pretty big leap, Christiaan. Just because I don't find it funny doesn't mean I didn't get it. It just means that I didn't agree with the humour. it means that I have a different sense of humour not that I don't get it.
June 2nd 2006, 07:25 PM
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How the heck would you feel if you lost your mother? Would you say "Hurray, time to grow up just like Dink SMallwood" or would you start cry

I think we can safely assume that pretty much everyone here would cry.
June 2nd 2006, 07:30 PM
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I consider amusing and funny to be the same thing, Ice, so that explains our discrepancies. Don't get me wrong, though, I found much of the game funny. I just don't find death, no matter how it is done as funny, humourous, amusing, smirk-worthy, etc. That is because life is my greatest value. I value it above all else. I value it above even rational thinking, which I've made quite clear by now, I love a lot.
June 2nd 2006, 08:02 PM
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dragon
Peasant He/Him United States
 
i'm never killing another pillbug, slimer, bonca, slayer, dragon, etc... again. I am now repenting my killing ways no matter how much i love hearing the sound of a pillbug die. Thank god I'm already a vegetarian or else eating dinner tonight would be very difficult for me now.
June 2nd 2006, 10:15 PM
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Striker
Noble She/Her United States
Daniel, there are clowns. 
Hey, with the law of averages, it was bound to happen sooner or later.

And actually, I have agreed with some of your points in the past, it's just that I rarely fully agree with your entire arguments.
June 2nd 2006, 10:32 PM
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rp64
Peasant He/Him
 
"i'm never killing another pillbug, slimer, bonca, slayer, dragon, etc... again. I am now repenting my killing ways no matter how much i love hearing the sound of a pillbug die. Thank god I'm already a vegetarian or else eating dinner tonight would be very difficult for me now."
Hitler was a vegetarian! eat meat!
June 2nd 2006, 10:34 PM
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rp64
Peasant He/Him
 
Oh, also, what I think is so funny about it, is Dink just says NOOOO! And shes still alive, and he just walks out and waits for it to burn, when he could easily have dragged her out and saved her, or atleast tried. poor dinks mother
June 3rd 2006, 01:24 AM
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DinkKiller
Peasant He/Him United States
The world could always use more heroes 
I think the first time I played it I kinda chuckled for like 0.3 seconds. That was like 3 years ago or more, and I can't rely on my memory. I only remember most things for 10 minutes or less.

Death is definately not a good thing unless you completely despise that person and your glad to be rid of them. It's still not good then though.
June 3rd 2006, 02:03 AM
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And actually, I have agreed with some of your points in the past, it's just that I rarely fully agree with your entire arguments.

Yeah, I know. I was just teasing myself.
June 3rd 2006, 02:05 AM
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Well, it's good when people like Suddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden die. But only because of their utter disrespect for life.
June 3rd 2006, 06:52 AM
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magicman
Peasant They/Them Netherlands duck
Mmmm, pizza. 
Hitler was also a Homo Sapiens. Commit genocide!
June 3rd 2006, 09:35 AM
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kikki
Peasant He/Him United Kingdom
This place has changed :) 
Wow DD you're so boring.
June 3rd 2006, 07:48 PM
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Wow DD you're so boring.

How so? Oh, and why don't you tell that to my friends. They seem to think otherwise.
June 4th 2006, 12:21 AM
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Tal
Noble He/Him United States
Super Sexy Tal Pal 
I tease myself often. Yohoho!
June 4th 2006, 04:26 AM
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Yeah, I believe that if you don't make fun of your self you have no right to make fun of others, no matter how good natured your intent is.
June 4th 2006, 05:26 AM
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rp64
Peasant He/Him
 
"Hitler was also a Homo Sapiens. Commit genocide!"
Wow are you from Russia or something because that's horrible English, and I think you're trying to say : Hitler was also a Homo Sapian, maybe we should all commit genocide!" Or something to that affect... IF that is what you're saying its not funny, shutup, and learn english TAL IS GOD thanks--- Ryan
June 4th 2006, 05:27 AM
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rp64
Peasant He/Him
 
oh by the way when the hell do I get quoted?! Its been like... 4 years? Or maybe 1 year ima bit too drugged up to keep track of these things...
June 4th 2006, 05:47 AM
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Phoenix
Peasant He/Him Norway
Back from the ashes 
You don't get quoted when you try to get quoted. Great, huh?
June 4th 2006, 05:53 AM
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rp64
Peasant He/Him
 
dang my plans are foiled again! There, will that be quoted?!
June 4th 2006, 06:12 AM
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DaVince
Peasant He/Him Netherlands
Olde Time Dinkere 
No, because you suck.

Seriously though, your posts do not seem to be too intelligent.
June 4th 2006, 09:42 AM
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magicman
Peasant They/Them Netherlands duck
Mmmm, pizza. 
"Homo Sapiens" is the correct species name for what other people would call "human being". It's even correct Latin, but more on that later. "Commit genocide!" is the imperative mood, just like "Eat meat!", or "Shut up!" and perfectly correct English.

You, on the other hand, forgot a comma after "Wow" and wrote "shut up" as one word instead of two. Also "English" should be capitalised. "TAL IS GOD" is a new sentence, so the previous one, which ends with the word "english", should have a period after it. Then the clause "Or something to that affect"... Wrong, wrong, wrong. Effect is the word you want, not affect. To affect means "to have influence on" (when pronounced aff-ECT), and affect means "emotion" (when pronounced AFF-ect). You used it as a noun, and the only meaning of "affect" that is a noun is "emotion", which doesn't fit the expression.

Before you complain, species is singular, despite the ending in -s.

If Hitler being a vegetarian is a reason to encourage people to stop being a vegetarian and eat meat, then so is Hitler being a Homo Sapiens a reason to encourage people to stop being a Homo Sapiens. Of course, in this case I should've used "suicide" instead of "genocide", but this doesn't change the validity of the English used.

I promised more about the Latin etymology of "Homo Sapiens", so here it is:

Homo is a noun that means "human" and is masculinum singularis nominativus; Sapiens is the present tense participle of "sapere" which means "to know", "to have sense" or "to taste". Sapiens thus means "knowing" (or "having sense" or "tasting"), and it's also masculinum singularis nominativus. It is often translated as "wise". In 'normal' Latin those aren't capitalised (well... every word was capitalised, but we don't, because it looks silly), but they are in this case because "Homo Sapiens" is the name of the species and names should be capitalised.

LATE ADDITION:
IF that is what you're saying its not funny, shutup, and learn english
Here, "its" should be changed to "it's".
June 4th 2006, 10:09 AM
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Indeed, magicman's construction parallels rp64's "Hitler was a vegetarian! Eat meat!"
June 4th 2006, 01:05 PM
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Tal
Noble He/Him United States
Super Sexy Tal Pal 
I was cracking another one of my sex-related jokes there, actually, but you do make an interesting point.
June 4th 2006, 02:18 PM
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DinkKiller
Peasant He/Him United States
The world could always use more heroes 
utterly speechless at the man of magic's words

-The DinkKiller
June 4th 2006, 03:14 PM
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Tal
Noble He/Him United States
Super Sexy Tal Pal 
And you replied to my post?
June 4th 2006, 03:29 PM
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Well we would hope they were both masculine, singular and nominative... or alas, the cases would not match... and then we would not be quite so wise after all.
June 4th 2006, 06:04 PM
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Your points are all good, magicman. However, "Homo Sapiens" is a botanical name. Botanical names are supposed to be displayed as such: Homo sapiens. That is, always in italics, or underlined if hand written, and only the first letter of the first word is supposed to be a capital. Also some scientists now refer to us as Homo sapiens sapiens. This is because they believe us to be a sub-species of Homo sapiens. They believe that we evolved from them and replaced them. So apparently we are "wise wise humans" or something like that.

However, all of your points on English are correct.
June 4th 2006, 06:55 PM
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Homo Sapiens is not the 'botanical' name... for botanical refers only to plants. It's a zoological name, a 'scientific' name, or a name following the rules of Binomial nomenclature...take your pick.
June 5th 2006, 04:36 AM
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dragon
Peasant He/Him United States
 
So Hitler got one thing right, he was vegetarian. He was also an artist, although not a very good one. So should no one be an artist because Hitler was one at one point in time? I'm sure he would have been laughing right along with you for those 20 minutes at the death of Dink's monther, so what boat does that put you in?

Maybe if your brain wasn't so full of cholesterol and numerous hormones & anti-biotics that meat is injected with you would be able to think logically. There is a lot about the meat industry that you don't know and probably don't want to know. The fact that I am a vegetarian is a personal choice, mainly for health and spiritual reasons. I never tell anyone to give up eating meat and was not trying to do so with my lighthearted joking. So chill and eat tofu!
June 5th 2006, 04:46 AM
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dragon
Peasant He/Him United States
 
Claps and cheers at magicman's response.

scoreboard: magicman 1 rp64 -3
June 5th 2006, 07:20 AM
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metatarasal
Bard He/Him Netherlands
I object 
Me don't understand that scoreboard.

I must be stupid...
June 5th 2006, 11:36 AM
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dragon
Peasant He/Him United States
 
just another one of my jokes... that magicman scored a point while rp64 is at a minus 3 points for all his stupid comments
June 5th 2006, 07:00 PM
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Striker
Noble She/Her United States
Daniel, there are clowns. 
Hmm... I'm not so sure. That really depends on what kind of diet was best for Hitler as an individual. I've noticed that some people do really well on a vegetarian diet, while others do rather poorly, depending on their chemical makeup.

Also, having tasted the produce in Cali, I can also say that being a vegetarian would be far more palettable there than up here.

However, I do agree that a good deal of disgusting things that occur in the meat industry and it shows in the quality of the food. Some of the best meat I've ever had was at an organic raised buffalo ranch in Kentucky and a chicken that was raised by a poor Minnesotan family.
June 5th 2006, 08:00 PM
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dragon
Peasant He/Him United States
 
yep the produce here in cali is much better but most people that dont do well on a vegetarian diet just dont know what to eat or how to replace the nutrients they would get from eating meat. There is actually quite a bit to eat other than just produce to be a vegetarian and tehre is also a lot of replacements for meat that are very similar in texture and taste (but much healthier). And yes, if ya eat meat.. organic is the way to go. Happy eating everyone!
June 5th 2006, 08:42 PM
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Chrispy
Peasant He/Him Canada
I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to.I guess. 
I prefer eating my steak meat blue rare. And I mix raw eggs into my glass of milk every morning.
June 5th 2006, 11:12 PM
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DinkKiller
Peasant He/Him United States
The world could always use more heroes 
Ewwwww...raw eggs...your disgusting. However, there are raw eggs in raw cookie dough. Mmmmm, raw cookie dough. *mouth drools uncontrolably like Homer Simpson*...

-DinkKiller
June 6th 2006, 12:33 AM
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Chrispy
Peasant He/Him Canada
I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to.I guess. 
Raw eggs are perfectly fine. When I first started, I tried not to break the yolk when I swallowed them, but now I just blend them into some milk, add some pepper, and a dash of garlic or hot sause.

It tastes good.
June 6th 2006, 01:03 AM
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dragon
Peasant He/Him United States
 
It's true, raw eggs are usually ok if the eggs are fresh and properly stored. The likelihood of the presence of bacteria is small, so long as the consuming person is not pregnant, elderly, or has an immuno-deficiency they should be fine. As far as the steak cooked blue rare... ewwwwwww (sorry, had to get that out)... i prefer my steak kept on the factory farmed cow it came from

And I'll have to agree with you DK, cookie dough is yummmmmmmmy
June 6th 2006, 01:20 AM
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Maybe you should buy more New Zealand meat, Striker. Our meat ain't so bad. It's high grade meat for a good price.
June 6th 2006, 01:22 AM
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I hate the taste of raw meat! Raw eggs is even worse. Besides meat has to be al least medium rare or it can cause you to be sick.
June 6th 2006, 01:35 AM
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Chrispy
Peasant He/Him Canada
I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to.I guess. 
You get used to it.
June 6th 2006, 03:18 AM
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metatarasal
Bard He/Him Netherlands
I object 
I hate steak in general, because I hate to eat rare or medium meat. And when you bake steak too long it tastes like leather.

Here in The Netherlands we're always adviced too cook/bake our eggs because of the high risk of infection from Salmonella.
June 6th 2006, 09:03 PM
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Chrispy
Peasant He/Him Canada
I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to.I guess. 
Yeah, I've caught that a few times, but it goes away quick enough. And it's never a bad idea to give your imunune system a task, otherwise it startes giving you allergies.
June 6th 2006, 09:11 PM
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I've never heard anyone speak in such a carefree tone about salmonella!
June 6th 2006, 09:40 PM
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DinkKiller
Peasant He/Him United States
The world could always use more heroes 
People at TDN are really weird...hot sause+raw eggs=violent vomiting...

-DinkKiller
June 7th 2006, 06:37 PM
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Striker
Noble She/Her United States
Daniel, there are clowns. 
Umm... I'm generally okay eating any meat, I just prefer to eat organic when I can (for reasons already mentioned in this thread). Considering I'm hella poor, I usually try to stick to cheaper, yet decent quality stuff, like ground beef from an actual butcher.
June 8th 2006, 06:38 PM
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rp64
Peasant He/Him
 
Da vince, go to hell you dang nerd and magicman lighten up you cant take jokes or something? But seriously I was just saying to the guy that I did not understand what he was saying, It wasnt a proper sentence, it had correct spelling but the words were put together weird and I just couldnt read it, and I thought I got a joke about the holocaust out of it which is why I said it wasnt funny because I think that is discraceful, and seriously magicman you think I give a shoot what you think you fat fudge nerd go to hell
June 8th 2006, 06:40 PM
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rp64
Peasant He/Him
 
And those weird words are auto put there i was swearing at you, incase you cant get that through your thick head. Ryan +6billion Magicman minus 80 gazillion SUCK IT
June 8th 2006, 06:43 PM
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rp64
Peasant He/Him
 
Doesn't U.S. Beef have mad cow disease, because they feed the cows, other cows with steroids and they get sick?
June 8th 2006, 06:57 PM
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magicman
Peasant They/Them Netherlands duck
Mmmm, pizza. 
The words were put together in exactly the same way as "Hitler was a vegetarian, eat meat!". I only inserted the word "also".

Oh, and I can take jokes. In fact, I laughed out loud at this post. Thank you for making my day
June 8th 2006, 08:52 PM
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dragon
Peasant He/Him United States
 
they feed them that and any other roadkill or dead animal such as your old pets.. they melt them down and make some solient green type stuff out of it.. then feed it to the cows and other livestock... BTW a lot of pet food is made this way too.. they dont put all the ingredients on the label
June 8th 2006, 09:08 PM
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Chrispy
Peasant He/Him Canada
I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to.I guess. 
Not quite.....

Really, think about how much it would cost to get all your pets, all the roadkill, and all the dead babies to the factories. It'd be much to expensive.
June 8th 2006, 10:55 PM
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DinkKiller
Peasant He/Him United States
The world could always use more heroes 
Maybe I shouldn't eat meat then. *notices I've been chomping on a bacon double cheeseburger.* Oh shoot.
June 9th 2006, 12:25 AM
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dragon
Peasant He/Him United States
 
they dont take ALL of them.. but they take plenty.. i've read plenty about this, they DO use a lot of dead animals.. they have to truck in the ingredients anyways.. and its actually cheaper than most because its a 'waste' product. but if ya wanna live in a bubble go right ahead.
June 9th 2006, 12:26 AM
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dragon
Peasant He/Him United States
 
good luck hopefully its not too late for you
June 9th 2006, 04:20 AM
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Tal
Noble He/Him United States
Super Sexy Tal Pal 
"they DO use a lot of dead animals.."

As opposed to letting you eat the animals live.
June 9th 2006, 05:45 AM
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they feed them that and any other roadkill or dead animal such as your old pets.. they melt them down and make some solient green type stuff out of it.. then feed it to the cows and other livestock... BTW a lot of pet food is made this way too.. they dont put all the ingredients on the label

In New Zealand every product made for ingesting has to have all ingredients listed. That's the law here.
June 9th 2006, 05:47 AM
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they dont take ALL of them.. but they take plenty.. i've read plenty about this, they DO use a lot of dead animals.. they have to truck in the ingredients anyways.. and its actually cheaper than most because its a 'waste' product. but if ya wanna live in a bubble go right ahead.

Don't beleive everything you read.

As opposed to letting you eat the animals live.

Good reponse, Tal. I quite like it.
June 9th 2006, 10:31 AM
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DaVince
Peasant He/Him Netherlands
Olde Time Dinkere 
Da vince, go to hell you dang nerd

Give me a reason of why you said that, because I sure as hell don't know what I would have said wrong. Or can't you take a joke, either?
June 9th 2006, 11:48 AM
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Christiaan
Bard They/Them Netherlands
Lazy bum 
The law? QUOTE Don't believe everything you read UNQUOTE. Thank you.
June 9th 2006, 04:04 PM
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The law? QUOTE Don't believe everything you read UNQUOTE. Thank you.

It's not something I read. It's soemthing I was told by a legal expert. They also have to list ingredients in the order of most to least.
June 9th 2006, 05:24 PM
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Striker
Noble She/Her United States
Daniel, there are clowns. 
That's a law most developed countries have. If dragon's argument has any validity, I'd guess that he is referring to some kind of loophole that is being exploited.
June 9th 2006, 05:42 PM
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dragon
Peasant He/Him United States
 
yep its a loophole... just call it something else like animal protein, tallow, yellow grease, by-products, meat-and-bone-meal... these are the rendered animals.. and now time to burst the bubble:

www.deltarescue.tv/pages/by_product

It has been a common practice in the livestock, poultry and fish farm industry to use an "animal protein" as a feed supplement for beef, dairy cattle, poultry, pigs and farm raised fish and shrimp. This animal protein is derived through a process called “animal rendering.” This gruesome practice involves taking the bodies of euthanized pets from vets and animal shelters, road kill and dead livestock (including horses,) and cooking their bodies to produce several products: yellow grease, tallow, and “animal protein.”

Worse yet, many of these rendered animals were either sick or diseased at the time of their deaths and their bodies are decomposing before the rendering begins. We believe therefore that the diseases they had when they were living (such as cancer), the chemicals used to treat them if they were sick, the toxins that built up in the their bodies after they died and the phenobarbital used to euthanize them may not break down completely in the rendering process.

www.ereleases.com/pr/20041122004.html

There are over 350 rendering plants in this country. The remains of millions of animals are sent to rendering plants every year. In Los Angeles County alone, the bodies of over 80,000 animals a year end up on the floor of West Coast Rendering.

www.belfield.com/article3.html

published on February 19, 1990, Mr. Eckhouse, an investigative reporter, writes: "Each year, millions of dead American dogs and cats are processed along with billions of pounds of other animal materials by companies known as renderers. The finished products -- tallow and meat meals -- serve as raw materials for thousands of items that include cosmetics and pet food."

www.api4animals.org/facts.php?p=359&more=1

bones, blood, intestines, lungs, ligaments, and almost all the other parts not generally consumed by humans — is used in pet food, animal feed, and other products. These “other parts” are known as “by-products,” “meat-and-bone-meal,” or similar names on pet food labels.

Sorry if this is a lot to read.. but this is just how it is... but check out your pet food labels.. i'm sure they got one of these ingredients... unless its a more natural pet food.
June 9th 2006, 05:47 PM
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Christiaan
Bard They/Them Netherlands
Lazy bum 
One of the many reasons I eat organic meat only, if I even eat meat.
June 9th 2006, 08:20 PM
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Chrispy
Peasant He/Him Canada
I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to.I guess. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_rendering doesn't make any mention of cats or dogs to be rendered. It's really would be quite expensive to get the fur off all of the cats and dogs, and then transport, and then render them. Even if you do a thousand at a time, it's still not that many.

Now livestock on the other hand, cows, pigs, horses, chickens, etc; they *are* used fully. These animals are vaccinated and kept moderatly clean, and thier meat, once exposed to the air, is kept as clean and bacteria free as possible. What isn't sold to humans for consumption is ground up, every last bit, and put into animal feed. No animal is allowed to eat it's own speices either, as that is a recipe for disaster. (see mad cow disease) All of this rendered meat is cooked well, and then packed into your favorite animal feed product.

And while people belive that there are certian contaminants left over in the meat after the animal has been rendered, is there any proof of these ideas? It wouldn't be hard to test, you'd just have to buy some dog food, and send it off to a private lab or too. Wouldn't cost very much, and it would be quickly make the news if there was a positive. But that's the thing, there's not been any positives. There were one or two positives for mad cow in rendered meat, stuff that the rendering companies themselves tested for, and *each* of the positives was in the news for weeks. And after each of those positives, there were more safe measures put into place.

Just beause a place is a place of death, doesn't mean it's a place of rot or decay.
June 9th 2006, 09:04 PM
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dragon
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go ahead and live in your bubble if ya want.. otherwise, read the articles i quoted from.. do some internet searches (besides wikipedia)... you might be surprised at what you'll find.

now a few points about your statements... they dont get all teh fur off the animals and they dont have to transport them that far... and using rendered animals is a lot cheaper than most ingredients.. why do ya think ya only pay $10 for a 40 pound bag of dog food?

and sorry its called coverup.. if it was humans getting sick then yes... it would be harder to coverup.. but instead its the animals.. your pets.. read the 3rd article i have listed. and rendered meat is more of a long melting process at which it is cooked at a temp lower than boiling water... the temps dont eliminate a lot of bacterial endotoxins or chemical contaminants that are in it.

and sorry livestock used for food arent kept as clean as you think... look up factory farms. they are dirtier than you think. educate yourself and stop believing everything you see on tv or the newspaper.. those are owned by corporations that usually own the the same companies that produce the food.
June 9th 2006, 10:44 PM
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rp64
Peasant He/Him
 
"No, because you suck.Seriously though, your posts do not seem to be too intelligent."

WOW, what a great joke da vince, RIPPING good laugh hahahaha! Yeah da vince, you weren't joking when you dissed me now you just backing out of it coward.
June 9th 2006, 10:45 PM
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rp64
Peasant He/Him
 
"The words were put together in exactly the same way as "Hitler was a vegetarian, eat meat!". I only inserted the word "also".Oh, and I can take jokes. In fact, I laughed out loud at this post. Thank you for making my day"

No problem buddy. *cough* jackass *cough*
June 9th 2006, 10:47 PM
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rp64
Peasant He/Him
 
Yeah its same in Canada too you have to list all the ingredients, I think its like that in all British Commonwealth countries then, that's my guess. I was in United States once, and I ate at a Mcdonalds because I was going to the kenedy space station and such, and pulled over and it tasted good, but it tasted alot different from Canadian meat seemed like it had more filler, but I do like Angus Beef. I just dont like how they feed their cattle, OTHER CATTLE, mixed with steroids I just dont think that's right. Hey Dragon if meat is so bad why have people survived on it perfectly fine for thousands of years!? And even if that stuff is true its just USA's beef it doesnt count for anyone elses. Also I went to those links, doesnt really look reliable to me, looks like its run by some vegetarian fanatics, not everything on the net is reliable. And I totally agree with everything Chrispy said. Tal you rule!
June 10th 2006, 01:15 AM
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DinkKiller
Peasant He/Him United States
The world could always use more heroes 
Sheesh...What's with all the long posts? I'm not gonna bother reading half of them if there are too many.
June 10th 2006, 03:13 AM
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dragon
Peasant He/Him United States
 
True, this applies mainly to USA products, i cannot say the same for any other countries products because i dont know. corporations more or less run this country now, most congress people are in the pocket of whoever gave them the money to fund their campaigns. it is actually a requirement to list all ingredients in this country too, but my point is that they just rename what the ingredient is to something that sounds innocent.

Those links were just a quick search i did.. took about a whole 10-15 minutes to find and post all that. there are many many more sites i didnt check out or list. cant really say that they are all vegetarian fanatics, i'm sure some of the people who wrote those do eat meat still... probably organic meat tho. A lot of the people who wrote these articles were either in the industry or are veterinarians, so they are more likely to be reliable sources.

The reason people have been able to survive thousands of years eating meat is because it didnt have all the steroids and rendered 'food' fed to the animals. But like i said in a previous post, it's a personal decision of mine not to eat meat and i'm not gonna tell anyone else not to eat it. I was just stating why i dont, since i was dissed that i was a vegetarian *cough* by you *cough*. If attacked, i will respond. In the end tho, people should at least know what they're eating or feeding their pets.
June 10th 2006, 04:04 AM
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Tal
Noble He/Him United States
Super Sexy Tal Pal 
Sheesh...What's with all the useless posts? I'm not gonna bother reading half of them if there are too many.
June 10th 2006, 11:25 AM
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DaVince
Peasant He/Him Netherlands
Olde Time Dinkere 
WOW, what a great joke da vince, RIPPING good laugh hahahaha! Yeah da vince, you weren't joking when you dissed me now you just backing out of it coward.

fudge that. The pretty much indicated I was joking. I'm negative towards no one on the DN.
June 10th 2006, 01:48 PM
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metatarasal
Bard He/Him Netherlands
I object 
Here comes something disturbing: You don't have to read through every thread, just as you don't have to post in every thread.
June 10th 2006, 08:03 PM
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Striker
Noble She/Her United States
Daniel, there are clowns. 
Heh, McDonalds sucks no matter what country you're in.

The fries ain't too bad though.
June 10th 2006, 08:57 PM
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DinkKiller
Peasant He/Him United States
The world could always use more heroes 
Once the fries get cold, they suck no matter what you do to them...
June 11th 2006, 03:23 AM
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metatarasal
Bard He/Him Netherlands
I object 
The food at McDonalds is cool...
June 11th 2006, 04:18 AM
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rp64
Peasant He/Him
 
Da vince I didnt see a Im pretty sure there isnt one I didnt double check yet if there is a than sorry misunderstood but im pretty sure theres no Da vince peace dawg
June 11th 2006, 04:20 AM
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rp64
Peasant He/Him
 
yeah I just checked theres no but still peace I dont want to continue this crap and chrispy back off leave me the hell alone and tal you are better than jesus. and meat is good. They dont put dead cats and dogs in meat thats bullshoot. lolZ
June 11th 2006, 04:23 AM
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rp64
Peasant He/Him
 
and for gods sakes, they dont put rotting dead cats and roadkill in meat, that is such total B.S. thats just some fanatic vegetarian terrorists trying to brainwash us, like in grade 3 a group of hippies came to my school and was handing out all this crap to kids saying milk gives u herpes, milk is poison milk gives you zits dont drink milk and these disturbing pictures that show what milk does to you (lol total BS) and lots of kids got sick cus it was such disgusting pics and the cops came and beat the crap out of the hippies and one hippie tried to run and they shot him in the leg. So yeah its sort of like what those hippies were doing for milk, they just think milk drinking is morally wrong so they say BS to brainwash other ppl into thinking milk is bad, but in reality its not, its just if u think drinking a liquid from an animal, which doesnt even hurt the animal in any way, is bad, for some reason, then its bad I guess... so yeah meat is good. No cats in it. Thats BS. But some brands of hotdogs may have garbage meat in it, but still no pre-rotted stuff or cats, thats just myth.
June 11th 2006, 04:32 AM
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rp64
Peasant He/Him
 
Man dragon I just read your post about how my head is full of poisons from meat, and how hitler got one thing right HE GOT NOTHING RIGHT HE CAUSED DEATH OF OVER 50 MILLION PPL AND 1 MILL OF THEM INNOCENT UNNARMED PPL IN DEATH CAMPS, NOTHING RIGHT!! and I think your a hippy and should shut the hell up. Seriously stop this anti meat propaganda its just really, REALLY sad.
June 11th 2006, 06:52 AM
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dragon
Peasant He/Him United States
 
down boy! like i said i only responded because you went off on the whole "hitler was a vegetarian, eat meat" deal. It's not propaganda.. and i didnt say the meat that people eat contains cats n dogs.. its what they feed the cows and other livestock that does and possibly may be in petfood too. I'm not some veggie fanatic, i never tell anyone not to eat meat or not to drink milk and i don't show gross pics to kids or adults.

And I know what hitler did thank you very much, he was a complete arsehole. I may be somewhat of a hippie, but i'm an educated hippie There's just a lot about the meat industry that people don't know, it aint the same as it used to be is all. It's not like i've been a vegetarian my whole life, only the last 9 years.. and I've been the healthiest i've been since then.

I think it's just sad that if i even mention that i'm vegetarian that people go off on me like i'm some kind of fanatic freak and tell me that i should eat meat. No thank you. You can eat all the meat that i don't, how's that sound, deal? So peace dude!
June 11th 2006, 06:54 AM
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dragon
Peasant He/Him United States
 
oh no look out for the salad eating terrorists!
June 11th 2006, 06:43 PM
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DinkKiller
Peasant He/Him United States
The world could always use more heroes 
Salad is nasty.
June 11th 2006, 08:44 PM
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Chrispy
Peasant He/Him Canada
I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to.I guess. 
Nope.
June 11th 2006, 08:56 PM
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DinkKiller
Peasant He/Him United States
The world could always use more heroes 
Yep.
June 12th 2006, 01:00 AM
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Chrispy
Peasant He/Him Canada
I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to.I guess. 
Scurvy is Nasty.
June 12th 2006, 04:33 PM
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I find your statistics absolutely fascinating.
June 12th 2006, 06:14 PM
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Christiaan
Bard They/Them Netherlands
Lazy bum 
It's really kind of hard to see who're you responding to, Ice...
June 12th 2006, 08:38 PM
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DinkKiller
Peasant He/Him United States
The world could always use more heroes 
My guess would be she was replying to Dragon.
June 13th 2006, 02:11 PM
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DaVince
Peasant He/Him Netherlands
Olde Time Dinkere 
You areth forgiven, even when I checked the post and there was a . Ah well.
June 13th 2006, 02:14 PM
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No, because you suck.

Seriously though, your posts do not seem to be too intelligent.


No
June 13th 2006, 02:23 PM
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DaVince
Peasant He/Him Netherlands
Olde Time Dinkere 
I don't think it's quite normal you TOTALLY forgot the story if this is one of the games you liked earlier and even came back for it. Get yer mind checked.

Ya.

EDIT: Oh wait, I didn't even see that post, ah well. Saying someone should go to hell when he has an opinion doesn't quite point in the correct direction though, as well as being offended pretty darn quickly. Ah well. Ah well...

EDIT 2: don't worry about me, rp64, we should all have a good times, even if you do seem annoying to me at times.
June 13th 2006, 09:36 PM
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DinkKiller
Peasant He/Him United States
The world could always use more heroes 
Bananas are good.
June 13th 2006, 10:10 PM
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carrie2004
Peasant She/Her Canada
*chomp* 
Mcdonald fries are too salty.They should give people a choice
of 'salted or unsalted'.
June 13th 2006, 10:29 PM
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I don't think so... Hey, Canadian McDonalds' are differant than American ones... Last time I was in Canada I got a deli style chicken sandwich with real bleu cheese and fresh lettuce... can't find quality food like that in this country... I am not too fond of McDonald's fries not because they are too salty, but because they have been frozen for who knows how long... I like InNOut fries because they use fresh potatoes from the local produce growers... another upside to living in central California.
June 13th 2006, 11:14 PM
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DinkKiller
Peasant He/Him United States
The world could always use more heroes 
In-N-Out fries make me want to vomit.
June 13th 2006, 11:37 PM
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DinkKiller makes me want to vomit... that is when I don't make myself want to vomit(!!)
June 13th 2006, 11:45 PM
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DinkKiller
Peasant He/Him United States
The world could always use more heroes 
How do I make you want to vomit?
June 14th 2006, 12:13 AM
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The same we I make myself want to vomit.
June 14th 2006, 08:37 AM
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DaVince
Peasant He/Him Netherlands
Olde Time Dinkere 
Can't you people discuss vomiting over each other via PMs?

Gotta go, I need to vomit. Naw.
June 14th 2006, 11:46 AM
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Should this thread be moved to off-topic?
June 14th 2006, 05:11 PM
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Sorry, I don't use nested so I just do a general reply... guess I should be more careful in future
June 14th 2006, 08:09 PM
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DinkKiller
Peasant He/Him United States
The world could always use more heroes 
Off-topic is definately what we are now.
June 15th 2006, 03:30 AM
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Phoenix
Peasant He/Him Norway
Back from the ashes 
I think threads should belong in the category of which their original post belongs to. Else a lot of posts would go into Off-Topic, and people using the search function would just disregard all the search results, cause they see they are all in the off-topic section, and we'd have a lot of unecessary posting, and the DN would be overheated from all the new posts, and dinkers would get stroke, and all would be like hell.
June 15th 2006, 11:05 AM
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metatarasal
Bard He/Him Netherlands
I object 
Would that be much different from the current situation?
June 15th 2006, 07:43 PM
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DinkKiller
Peasant He/Him United States
The world could always use more heroes 
No, it wouldn't. But it would be worse then.
June 21st 2006, 08:47 PM
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rp64
Peasant He/Him
 
i eat salad and i like vegetables theres just nothing wrong with meat and if u think killing animals to eat them is wrong ok good thats your own thing but dont go around spreading sick rumors and disgusting stories to make everyone else do the same thing as you that is not right
June 22nd 2006, 01:19 AM
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dragon
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ok let me get a few things straight....

1. comparing me to hitler because i'm a vegetarian isnt right either
2. i'm not making anyone else do the same as me.. its called free will
3. i never said there are rotting animals in the food that people eat, i said rendered animals are in the food we give to the animals such as cows and chickens, etc.(ever hear of madcow? thats how that happened)... which in turn we eat those animals
4. And it is not a rumor that cats and dogs are in this rendered group of animals that get fed to cows, chickens, etc... and sometimes it is a 'possibility' that it could also wind up in pet food in cases that the rendered products get mixed (which has happened, although it is rare, there are statements by renderers admiting this)
5. organic meats are fine to eat, those animals are not fed rendered meat products. They are also usually kept in much better conditions than regular animals.
6. eat as much meat as ya friggin want, dont hurt me any...
July 11th 2006, 11:21 AM
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omg
Ghost They/Them
 
the mother never dies for me so i can't continue with the game...she tells me to get alktree nuts but idunno where to get them
July 11th 2006, 06:53 PM
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DaVince
Peasant He/Him Netherlands
Olde Time Dinkere 
Hey, it's a postreviver-nonregisterer-spammer-offtopicposter!
July 11th 2006, 08:41 PM
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Chrispy
Peasant He/Him Canada
I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to.I guess. 
You will be shot, drawn and quartered fool. Then we will kill you.

for those without a sence of humour.
July 21st 2006, 09:50 AM
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Ghost They/Them
 
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July 21st 2006, 12:35 PM
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SabreTrout
Noble He/Him United Kingdom
Tigertigertiger. 
I don't know what's happened in this thread, but I've deleted the posts. Something about domain names... looked kinda scary so I deleted them. Very spammy.

Hmm.
July 21st 2006, 05:26 PM
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DaVince
Peasant He/Him Netherlands
Olde Time Dinkere 
Dun dun dunnn!

SPAMBOT! And customized for these forums, apparently!
July 21st 2006, 06:00 PM
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Tal
Noble He/Him United States
Super Sexy Tal Pal 
This is getting annoying. I'm closing this thread to see if it helps matters, since the problem only seems to be occurring here.