The Dink Network

dink is dead

December 5th 2018, 09:27 PM
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Skurn
Peasant Male Equatorial Guinea xbox steam duck bloop
can't flim flam the glim glam 
you can't prove me wrong.
December 5th 2018, 09:47 PM
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forumlurker
Peasant Male United States
We put our faith in Blast Hardcheese 
The Dink community is less a community now and more of a cabal, of around 7 people, please don't leave the cabal.
December 6th 2018, 02:21 AM
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Bluedy
Peasant Male Romania steam bloop
Flyest artist you know 
The cabal?
December 6th 2018, 10:48 AM
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SlipDink
Peasant Male United States bloop
2nd generation. No easy way to be free. 
Dink is not (yet) dead! Every day when I look at the Dmods sorted by date web page I see that some files are downloaded.

I admit that the number in our cabal has shrunk to the point of near death, but the patient is still breathing on his own.
December 6th 2018, 12:05 PM
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spinnerweb
Peasant Male Pakistan
Da da. 
Dink is not (yet) dead! Every day when I look at the Dmods sorted by date web page I see that some files are downloaded.

That just makes me sadder thinking of some poor kid downloading free mods to extend his playtime on a freeware game.

Dink is probably too stubborn to die.
December 6th 2018, 01:44 PM
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SlipDink
Peasant Male United States bloop
2nd generation. No easy way to be free. 
And besides, I'm working on a dmod and so is Robj, last I heard. And maybe others too (I hope)!

The DN and Dink are not dead until the king (redink1) says that he is sick of maintaining the website. So there!
December 6th 2018, 04:38 PM
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Bluedy
Peasant Male Romania steam bloop
Flyest artist you know 
What if this was actually the last we saw of Skurn?

Not trying to give you any ideas. Don't leave, dumbass.
December 6th 2018, 04:46 PM
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forumlurker
Peasant Male United States
We put our faith in Blast Hardcheese 
I'll do my best to fill in the pony-shaped hole in our hearts after his departure.

PONIES!!
December 6th 2018, 04:47 PM
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forumlurker
Peasant Male United States
We put our faith in Blast Hardcheese 
I'm joking pls stay
December 6th 2018, 05:32 PM
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Bluedy
Peasant Male Romania steam bloop
Flyest artist you know 
this day was bound to come once
December 6th 2018, 06:52 PM
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toof
Peasant Male
I disagree. 
this day was bound to come once

Can't really counter that statement. But still, occasional post here might be just enough to keep it afloat.
December 6th 2018, 07:31 PM
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megadogV2
Peasant Male New Zealand bloop
Only paritally dead. 
Dying =!= dead.

We're getting there, slowly, but we're still alive.
December 7th 2018, 02:27 AM
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Tal
Noble Male United States xbox steam
Super Sexy Tal Pal 
Let's be honest, for an indie game released 21 years ago that was relatively obscure even at the height of its popularity, it's wild that anyone posts here on any regular basis.

Look at forums for other obscure games, mods, etc. and it's easy to find ones that have gone for years without fresh discussion.
December 7th 2018, 02:29 AM
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spinnerweb
Peasant Male Pakistan
Da da. 
"Yeah, we're a cult Playing a game made in '97 .. you'd have to be crazy.. or a cult " - Dukie

That about 98% of the mods here have been curated thanks to Tim might hint that we're slowly moving towards being in a museum, but you never know.

Edit: Actually even D-Mods submitted barely 2 months ago have well over a hundred downloads, like Golden Duck. It's looking good tbh.
December 8th 2018, 04:04 AM
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toof
Peasant Male
I disagree. 
Again, I think people just grew up, so... real life stuff comes first. But whenever there's some discussion about development, there are relatively fast responses. So someone is brewing something in the background. We aren't finished yet.

However, I think it would be nice to see some motivation from the original creator Seth, therefore I think I'm speaking for the whole community, when I have this to say to him
December 8th 2018, 08:58 AM
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Bluedy
Peasant Male Romania steam bloop
Flyest artist you know 
Me and skurn were talking about some type of dink remake with the help of the community. dont know how far that would go, but I DID recently send an email to seth asking for the original models used for the sprites, but he said theyre in an old format, so theyre probably useless. I still think we could convert them though, but its up to Seth to upload them.
December 8th 2018, 10:30 AM
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SlipDink
Peasant Male United States bloop
2nd generation. No easy way to be free. 
@toof:
However, I think it would be nice to see some motivation from the original creator Seth, therefore I think I'm speaking for the whole community, when I have this to say to him.

How about we use a cat instead? Cats are just parasites. Dogs are helpful animals that want to be part of your pack. Ever hear of a trained "service cats"? No! No cat would ever bother to do that much for it's master or mistress! But compare how useless cats are to just a few of the many things dogs can be trained to help us with.
December 8th 2018, 11:17 AM
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spinnerweb
Peasant Male Pakistan
Da da. 
Dogs are great but cats are better.

I wonder how it must feel like to be Seth. You make a great game at a young age, and for the remainder of your life a small bunch of crazy cultists on the internet ask you periodically to make a sequel... even though they had hundreds of add-on quests to choose from.

Dang, he really should have just said Mystery Island was the official Dink Smallwood 2 lmao.

I think he did work on it at some point using Novashell... but at this point would a sequel or a spiritual successor be more relevant? He's probably having more fun with that funeral parlour game anyway
December 8th 2018, 04:24 PM
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Toof
Peasant Male
I disagree. 
Dogs are helpful animals that want to be part of your pack

Because of it, the threat itself has a bigger impact.

Dogs are great but cats are better.

Comparing cats and dogs is like comparing apples and onagers. Siege onagers.
December 8th 2018, 04:33 PM
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SlipDink
Peasant Male United States bloop
2nd generation. No easy way to be free. 
@spinnerweb:
He's probably having more fun with that funeral parlour game anyway

Wow! I thought you were kidding. There really is such a game about the funeral parlor business! Seth needs some serious help with marketing decisions. I can imagine he thought, "No one ever made a game like this before. I'll have an entirely new part of the computer gaming industry covered!". No wonder it has to be given away at this point.
December 8th 2018, 04:57 PM
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redink1
King Male United States xbox steam bloop
A mother ducking wizard 
Funeral Quest was pretty great when it was active 15 years ago. There was an active community at the time, and the game captured Seth's humor very well.
December 8th 2018, 07:38 PM
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Toof
Peasant Male
I disagree. 
First of all... All hail the King!

Never heard before about this game. Sounds interesting.
December 8th 2018, 08:02 PM
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Skurn
Peasant Male Equatorial Guinea xbox steam duck bloop
can't flim flam the glim glam 
come on, guys. i posted the server i ran recently

https://www.dinknetwork.com/forum.cgi?MID=203351&Posts=10

you're proving me right!!
December 9th 2018, 08:40 AM
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SlipDink
Peasant Male United States bloop
2nd generation. No easy way to be free. 
@Skurn:

come on, guys. i posted the server i ran recently

https://www.dinknetwork.com/forum.cgi?MID=203351&Posts=10

you're proving me right!!

Perhaps you forgot what was stated about changing router IP addresses that your ISP controls?

But more seriously, let us focus on what is amazing about the survival of this game in the public domain and it's persistent (and even a few relatively new) fans, not what is the cold reality about it's slowly dwindling fan base.

Enjoy it while you can! Don't lament the fact that it may someday go away before it is gone.
December 9th 2018, 08:41 AM
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SlipDink
Peasant Male United States bloop
2nd generation. No easy way to be free. 
@redink1:

Funeral Quest was pretty great when it was active 15 years ago. There was an active community at the time, and the game captured Seth's humor very well.

Astonishing! Well, that shows how much I know about computer gaming I suppose.
December 11th 2018, 03:01 PM
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Bouncycles
Peasant Male Germany
I've got no mouth 
Dink will never die.
But what will happen to it's community is another thing.

Also: of course it's great that the dink community stayed active this long, but is it really that surprising?

Most games, that got a large community at the time of their submission featuring "level editors" will have a long-surviving community. That's logical, because there will be dozens of people making dozens of add-ons.

Another example:I also joined recently the community of the ol' puzzle game 'chips challenge', which is (as far as I know) even older than dink. But it's very active (approximately 1000 new levels a year!)

But then, why is dink community dying? Because creating a new add-on is still very hard and requires some programming skills.The chips challenge community is much more active, because creating a level (or a set) is very easy there. Locgic, as its a puzzle game and not a complex rpg (of course, making good levels can take up to ten hours, but that's nothing compared to a good D-mod).
December 11th 2018, 05:32 PM
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SlipDink
Peasant Male United States bloop
2nd generation. No easy way to be free. 
@ Bouncycles:
But then, why is dink community dying? Because creating a new add-on is still very hard and requires some programming skills.The chips challenge community is much more active, because creating a level (or a set) is very easy there. Locgic, as its a puzzle game and not a complex rpg (of course, making good levels can take up to ten hours, but that's nothing compared to a good D-mod).

Ah, maybe what you say is true, that the effort of making a dmod can be a large scale undertaking. But, it is worth it! You get to create your own world and a story to go with it!
December 12th 2018, 03:01 AM
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Bluedy
Peasant Male Romania steam bloop
Flyest artist you know 
Ah, maybe what you say is true, that the effort of making a dmod can be a large scale undertaking. But, it is worth it! You get to create your own world and a story to go with it!

Of course its worth it, but I think what Bouncycles meant is that is a lot harder to learn DinkC and make an RPG than to make a level in chip's challenge
December 15th 2018, 03:17 AM
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Grilox
Peasant Male United States
 
A topic is posted with content like this about once a year, and that proves on its own that Dink isn't dead. In fact there's more Dmods getting released recently than -the dark ages- a couple years ago

edit: also SlipDink is an extremely powerful new person
December 15th 2018, 04:08 AM
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Bluedy
Peasant Male Romania steam bloop
Flyest artist you know 
Part of the reason some of us think dink is dead is because of the inactivity on the discord server. JOIN, PEOPLE.
December 15th 2018, 04:55 AM
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Skurn
Peasant Male Equatorial Guinea xbox steam duck bloop
can't flim flam the glim glam 
and the overall lack of motivation. no one wants to make dmods except a handful of people, threads go un answered unless they're memes, and dink is forever stuck in the dark ages of the pc games movement with seth being the most irritatingly stubborn motherducker in existence. sooner or later, it won't be possible to support this anymore especially with the lack of mainstream availability. it will fade away and be unplayable like many win95 games have that just aren't compatible with any form of modern architecture.

and no one really gives a shit
December 15th 2018, 06:48 AM
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Bluedy
Peasant Male Romania steam bloop
Flyest artist you know 
skurn is a little bit right
December 15th 2018, 11:22 AM
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SlipDink
Peasant Male United States bloop
2nd generation. No easy way to be free. 
@ Grilox:
edit: also SlipDink is an extremely powerful new person

Thanks very much for your kind words, but I'm really not that special. I'm just a (long time) Dink fan that has started making dmods in the last few years.

But tell me, what is it exactly that I am doing right? I ask because I want to keep doing that. If (in some small way) I am helping keep Dink alive, then I want to know how to keep doing that!


@ Bluedy &Skurn:
skurn is a little bit right

I thought that there are versions of Dink that run on Android and more modern operating systems than win95. Certainly Dink lives on in several Linux iterations and we now have even TWO web versions and an HD version (which I assume runs on the latest Wintel platform and others). If Skurn is right (even a little bit), then I'd like to understand why Skurn has dismissed the work of several Dinkers, including Seth himself, to port this game to so many platforms.
December 15th 2018, 11:38 AM
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Bluedy
Peasant Male Romania steam bloop
Flyest artist you know 
especially with the lack of mainstream availability.

this is what i agree with. dink is obscure. just because its being downloaded on mobile it doesnt make it a popular mainstream game. (not that it has many downloads on mobile). and like literally 99% of people who DO play it on mobile are people who already played it years before and are nostalgic. you cant easily find this game on the mobile stores unless you specifically search for it.

Dink lives on on many platforms, but poor Dink doesnt have a significant number of downloads on any.

What people mean when they say "Dink is dead" doesnt refer to dink being dead with a dead fanbase. of course thats not the case, but it DOES have a dying community (more and more members leaving). and while i know that it's already been discussed to death, seth is, unfortunately, shooting himself in the leg by not releasing dink on either gog or steam
December 16th 2018, 01:42 PM
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Bouncycles
Peasant Male Germany
I've got no mouth 
Not that it has many downloads

10,000+ is 'not many'?
December 16th 2018, 01:54 PM
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Bluedy
Peasant Male Romania steam bloop
Flyest artist you know 
in comparison with the standard popular game, no.

in an age where almost everyone on earth has a phone or a pc, you consider a mere 10000 downloads accumulated over the course of several years "many"?

you consider the game popular? you consider it relevant?
December 17th 2018, 02:50 AM
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toof
Peasant Male
I disagree. 
Considering that this wasn't a mainstream game in its prime, and that it was pretty much unknown even then, check out what the community produced so far... And it's not like just a few people made those contributions. And it's not like those contributions are something that you can assemble in a day or two.

So when you sit down and think about it, factor in the relative animosity of the game, the amount of content that can be found here, the work and will behind it, and the year that we live in today, you'll fully understand just how bizarre this place is.
December 17th 2018, 08:27 AM
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pillbug
Peasant Male United States xbox steam
Love! True love! 
I'm pretty happy with the latest improvements to the community and Dink as a whole. DinkHD is awesome. Playing D-Mods in your browser removes basically the only barrier-to-entry to play the game. Sure the community has shrank but you can't expect much else. We're still alive and playing and creating, but we age just as much as the game does. I don't quite have the free time I did when I was 7 years old and first started playing. I still fiddle with the editor now and then and still play D-Mods, it's just not quite as high on my list of priorities. I prefer to think of it as Dink aging, not dying.
December 17th 2018, 09:28 AM
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SlipDink
Peasant Male United States bloop
2nd generation. No easy way to be free. 
@pillbug:

...I prefer to think of it as Dink aging, not dying.

I think that is an excellent analogy. Good point!
December 17th 2018, 10:13 AM
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Tal
Noble Male United States xbox steam
Super Sexy Tal Pal 
If by "irritatingly stubborn" you mean "exceptionally cool in almost every conceivable way," I wholeheartedly agree
December 17th 2018, 01:17 PM
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Bluedy
Peasant Male Romania steam bloop
Flyest artist you know 
I just dont want this game and forum to be completely abandoned in the future. something which I kind of think is inevitable.
December 17th 2018, 04:11 PM
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metatarasal
Bard Male Netherlands
I object 
The big question is: Will I still be alive by that time. And if not, do I still really care by then?

This place has been around for longer than some of its members, which is a strange sensation.
December 17th 2018, 04:15 PM
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SlipDink
Peasant Male United States bloop
2nd generation. No easy way to be free. 
@Bluedy:
I just dont want this game and forum to be completely abandoned in the future.

Niether, I assume, do most of us. So, stop lamenting about loosing something that has yet to happen and feed the fire that is the present.

December 20th 2018, 07:38 AM
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Skurn
Peasant Male Equatorial Guinea xbox steam duck bloop
can't flim flam the glim glam 
https://www.dinknetwork.com/file/colored_dink/
December 20th 2018, 10:42 AM
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SlipDink
Peasant Male United States bloop
2nd generation. No easy way to be free. 
@Skurn:
What is https://www.dinknetwork.com/file/colored_dink/ supposed to mean? There does not seem to be anything there.
December 23rd 2018, 02:43 AM
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yeoldetoast
Peasant Australia steam
discord.gg/Ukugfbh 
It was a blatant rip-off of another file
December 23rd 2018, 04:57 AM
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spinnerweb
Peasant Male Pakistan
Da da. 
I remember that lmao.
December 26th 2018, 01:17 AM
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Exzcimus
Ghost
 
Dink is just weak, not dead. What our cabal requires is the recruitment of more human resources, and to make this place lessen the "rejecting feeling",because the Dink programming literates and computer nerds think they are the elites of this place. Let us make this place "mindset friendly", flexible for all mindsets.
December 26th 2018, 02:54 AM
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Exzcimus
Ghost
 
Dink will live longer if we CONSISTENTLY facilitate with TDN. It's our only hope. (even doing the same thing in the same angle won't make a change)
And the thing about mainstream availability, it's a problem. We really need to expose Dink to the very limit. (even though it really sucks already)

Our society shall no longer be concealed from the depths and darkness. May the great one be exalted, we shall shout his name in fire. DINK!
December 26th 2018, 03:09 AM
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Bluedy
Peasant Male Romania steam bloop
Flyest artist you know 
I shed a tear, that was so dramatic.
January 27th, 04:55 PM
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Beuc
Peasant Male France
 
You know part of Dink is dead when efforts to translate it and create freely redistributable sounds don't even get a news item.
https://www.dinknetwork.com/file/freedink_data/
https://www.dinknetwork.com/file/freedink_data_source_code/
Approved 1 week ago..
January 27th, 06:30 PM
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Ghostlight
Ghost
 
Dink can't die if he's immortal!

if (&life < &lifemax)
{
&life = &lifemax
}