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Is either gender more evil then the other?

July 19th 2013, 05:05 AM
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ThePunisher
Peasant He/Him Australia
(Tag Line) How long is this line. 
I was watching a show on national geographic and they were talking Does Gender have anything to do with evil?

What do you think?
July 19th 2013, 05:12 AM
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Spinnerweb
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No. Both are equally evil, only men are plain do-it-in-front-of-everybody evil; women are silently scheming, my-plan-is-coming-together evil.
July 19th 2013, 05:17 AM
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ThePunisher
Peasant He/Him Australia
(Tag Line) How long is this line. 
I agree although you hear although those feminist extremist idiots saying men are all rapists and are selfish and cause nothing but war and deserve to be castrated which is stupid.
July 19th 2013, 02:52 PM
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Quiztis
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Define evil.
July 20th 2013, 04:11 AM
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KrisKnox
Peasant He/Him United States
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Evil is simply a concept attached to acts that displease the majority. Pred views sex and porn as evil, whereas many other people see it as a good thing.

Ultimately, it doesn't matter. What does matter to me is the preservation of life and the quality of life. Anything that goes against that (Such as murder or rape or molestation) would be deemed as 'evil'.
July 20th 2013, 04:48 AM
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ThePunisher
Peasant He/Him Australia
(Tag Line) How long is this line. 
Pred views sex and porn as evil, whereas many other people see it as a good thing.
Who Does?
July 20th 2013, 07:12 AM
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Skull
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A Disembodied Sod 
SimonK.
July 20th 2013, 08:13 AM
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ThePunisher
Peasant He/Him Australia
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SimonK.
I dont so Its even shows in his D-mod called the Stone of Balance when Dink goes down to the dungeon and decides to do the ehhhh..... naughty
HE DIES
July 20th 2013, 12:12 PM
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leprochaun
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sex and porn are good things.
July 20th 2013, 07:00 PM
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What does matter to me is the preservation of life and the quality of life. Anything that goes against that (Such as murder or rape or molestation) would be deemed as 'evil'.

With that criteria, the argument can be made that men are a lot more evil than women - 90% of total crime is committed by men, for violent crime the percentage is probably even higher than that.

Just throwing that (crass oversimplification) out there, maybe to foster some kind of intelligent conversation.

Porn is nrop.
July 20th 2013, 07:36 PM
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KrisKnox
Peasant He/Him United States
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Those are just the crimes that were reported. I don't trust statistics much, as they only use a small number to measure the large.

No0t to mention the media here can legally lie.
July 20th 2013, 10:03 PM
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shevek
Peasant They/Them Netherlands
Never be afraid to ask, but don't demand an answer 
I don't trust statistics much, as they only use a small number to measure the large.

No, that's not right. Statistics are about turning a large amount of information into a smaller amount of information, with as little loss of interesting information as possible. That means that the results will depend on what you consider interesting.

What you describe (using statistics on little information and suggesting that it would have been the same if it was used on a larger data set) is a "sample"; if used properly, there's nothing wrong with that, and it is indeed very likely that the results are correct.

However, there are several problems. The obvious problem is that giving only the results of your statistics doesn't allow people to check if you did it right. It's very easy to do statistics wrong, and if you do, the results don't mean anything.

A more important thing is that some people intentionally do it wrong, for the purpose of "proving" something that they know isn't true. "There's lies, dang lies and statistics." Which brings us back to the subject: those people are evil, IMO. But unfortunately they don't seem to be rare.

the media here can legally lie.

They can do that anywhere. That's called "freedom of press". This only becomes a problem when they are not independent. Journalists should try to bring news and give people objective information about what's happening in the world. They should provide a platform for people to discuss the news. If they are actively pushing the public opinion one way or the other (by adding their own opinion too much, or by selectively publishing reader's letters), the people no longer know what is true or false. Then your country is in trouble.

And yes, I believe the US is very much in trouble in that respect.
July 22nd 2013, 02:46 AM
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Those are just the crimes that were reported. I don't trust statistics much, as they only use a small number to measure the large.

Are you implying that women secretly commit just as much crime as men, but they almost never get caught? That doesn't sound very believable... I don't think the data itself is by large untrustworthy, for a few reasons: 1) When it's gained directly from crime reports (and not a telephone survey or something, although those do serve their purpose of getting some kind of idea of the amount of unreported crime), and 2) there's a crapload of data on the subject from many countries, not just some anger cruise by a nasty feminist.

A more important thing is that some people intentionally do it wrong, for the purpose of "proving" something that they know isn't true. "There's lies, dang lies and statistics."

That's a good phrase. Even if the data is right, statistics can be perverted to support some pretty absurd claims - such as that you and I have more legs than the average person. Or, of course, that men are several times more evil than women.
July 22nd 2013, 04:25 AM
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MsDink
Peasant She/Her New Zealand
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the argument can be made that men are a lot more evil than women - 90% of total crime is committed by men, for violent crime the percentage is probably even higher than that.

Nup we are just smarter therefore dont get caught As DD says, we are sneakier therefore we slide in and out under the radar... maybe??

@punisher - why do u care about castration if u dont wanna use said appendage for the purpose it was created for?? cut eet off i say
July 22nd 2013, 05:43 AM
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Skull
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Are you implying that women secretly commit just as much crime as men, but they almost never get caught?

While I wouldn't say that's true, women do tend to get away with crimes much easier than men.
July 22nd 2013, 06:20 AM
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ThePunisher
Peasant He/Him Australia
(Tag Line) How long is this line. 
why do u care about castration if u dont wanna use said appendage for the purpose it was created for?? cut eet off i say


Becasue it will hurt
July 22nd 2013, 08:03 AM
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Quiztis
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Becasue it will hurt

You just went full retard.
July 22nd 2013, 08:22 AM
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ThePunisher
Peasant He/Him Australia
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You just went full retard.
You were always a retard
July 22nd 2013, 09:09 AM
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schnapper
Peasant He/Him Heard Island And Mcdonald Islands
Let us save our effort and just lie down and die. 
Neither gender is inherently evil.

However, Males are more prepositioned to be excessively violent, aggressive and sexual due to testosterone levels.

Of course, this is neither inherent nor absolute. Furthermore, evil doesn't really exist - simply some things/ creatures (eg. people) are more destructive and self-centred then others.

Ed: Social expectations are for males to be more aggro, powerful and emotionless. These social norms are stone-age grade and must be revamped.
July 22nd 2013, 11:44 AM
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Quiztis
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Ok, how do you think castration is performed on a male human being then? You should definitely consider it regarding how much you hate sex and porn etc. and will never get laid.
July 22nd 2013, 12:41 PM
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ThePunisher
Peasant He/Him Australia
(Tag Line) How long is this line. 
You should definitely consider it regarding how much you hate sex and porn etc. and will never get laid.
No because i can control myself.
July 22nd 2013, 04:30 PM
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DackFight
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I doubt that a little
July 22nd 2013, 06:22 PM
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Just because someone doesn't think sex is right doesn't mean they would want their body to be chopped up.
July 22nd 2013, 06:34 PM
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Quiztis
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Trust me, it would be for the greater good in this case.
July 22nd 2013, 07:04 PM
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Skull
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Let the man keep his rod. It's not like he has anything else left. Except his virginity.
July 22nd 2013, 08:53 PM
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MsDink
Peasant She/Her New Zealand
Tag - Umm.. tag, you're it? 

Just because someone doesn't think sex is right doesn't mean they would want their body to be chopped up.


Good answer

Ok so... does upbringing come into this I do know that if a kid witnesses violence in the home growing up - that their brains develop differently, so are we creating a world of next generation monsters cause parents cant keep their hands off each other (and not in a good way lol) I do mean both genders here - men just dont report women belting them the same as women do to men - it still happens. A lot!
July 22nd 2013, 10:21 PM
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And yes, I believe the US is very much in trouble in that respect.

How so? It seems like we have tons of news sources and even more places to talk about it. Plus we have a fairly large element of suspicion in our culture that makes people want to find out what's really going on that "they" aren't telling us.
July 23rd 2013, 12:43 AM
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In regard to the thing KrisKnox originally said, he never said crime was the only thing the reduces the quality or likelihood of preservation of life, he just used them as examples. Just watching the psychological warfare teenage girls use at their schools aught to amply prove that there are ways of doing so legally.
July 23rd 2013, 04:00 AM
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metatarasal
Bard He/Him Netherlands
I object 
Just because someone doesn't think sex is right doesn't mean they would want their body to be chopped up.

Also, having a rod has other advantages besides having fun in bed. Especially the ability to take a pee while standing.
July 23rd 2013, 04:35 AM
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ThePunisher
Peasant He/Him Australia
(Tag Line) How long is this line. 
Also, having a rod has other advantages besides having fun in bed.
Fun? What! isnt doing the naughty suppose to be painful? How is being in Pain fun?

Let the man keep his rod. It's not like he has anything else left. Except his virginity.

I hate say this but you are right Skull(Pitty laugh)(Sigh)...............
July 23rd 2013, 06:16 AM
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Skull
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Fun? What! isnt doing the naughty suppose to be painful? How is being in Pain fun?

Oh God...
July 23rd 2013, 07:17 AM
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schnapper
Peasant He/Him Heard Island And Mcdonald Islands
Let us save our effort and just lie down and die. 
Once the frenulum severs, masturbating should no longer be painful. Of course there are certain conditions such as balanitis which override this statement, but should be uncommon in average first and second-world males of your age.
July 23rd 2013, 11:25 AM
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ThePunisher
Peasant He/Him Australia
(Tag Line) How long is this line. 
@Skull
Dont bring up my little pony crap
Ive checked your youtube page and one of your video is about that pony show you do know its for little girls.
July 23rd 2013, 11:40 AM
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metatarasal
Bard He/Him Netherlands
I object 
Fun?

You should stop dating a grater...
July 23rd 2013, 11:42 AM
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ThePunisher
Peasant He/Him Australia
(Tag Line) How long is this line. 
You should stop dating a grater..
What?! you mean like a cheese grater what the hell are you talking about?
July 23rd 2013, 12:02 PM
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Quiztis
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Life? What's that? Can I download it?! 
Fun? What! isnt doing the naughty suppose to be painful? How is being in Pain fun?

Someone shoot this imbecile, I can't take it anymore.
July 23rd 2013, 12:06 PM
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ThePunisher
Peasant He/Him Australia
(Tag Line) How long is this line. 
Someone shoot this imbecile, I can't take it anymore.

What an idiot you are.
July 23rd 2013, 12:09 PM
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Quiztis
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Life? What's that? Can I download it?! 
Are you 16 years or older and have never masturbated? Not even once?

Well isn't that a big fat troll indeed.
July 23rd 2013, 12:10 PM
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ThePunisher
Peasant He/Him Australia
(Tag Line) How long is this line. 
Are you 16 years or older and have never masturbated? Not even once?
Why the hell do you what to know that?
July 23rd 2013, 12:12 PM
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Quiztis
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Life? What's that? Can I download it?! 
Because I now feel reaaaally sorry for you honestly. Promise me you'll do something about it asap.
July 23rd 2013, 12:14 PM
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ThePunisher
Peasant He/Him Australia
(Tag Line) How long is this line. 
Because I now feel reaaaally sorry for you honestly. Promise me you'll do something about it asap.

Why i thought you have always hated me?
July 23rd 2013, 12:20 PM
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Quiztis
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The situation has changed after those last posts. I can see now why everyone here turns up on the Enemy List of yours.

You have never experienced it, I see now that's where the problem is and I know just the thing to make you better at life.
July 23rd 2013, 12:21 PM
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ThePunisher
Peasant He/Him Australia
(Tag Line) How long is this line. 
You have never experienced it, I see now that's where the problem is and I know just the thing to make you better at life.

Expreinced what?
July 23rd 2013, 12:23 PM
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Quiztis
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Life? What's that? Can I download it?! 
July 23rd 2013, 12:25 PM
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ThePunisher
Peasant He/Him Australia
(Tag Line) How long is this line. 
I actually have and its hurts trust me you are better off not doing it.
July 23rd 2013, 12:29 PM
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Quiztis
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Life? What's that? Can I download it?! 
Oh well, it really really REALLY must suck to be you then.
July 23rd 2013, 12:30 PM
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ThePunisher
Peasant He/Him Australia
(Tag Line) How long is this line. 
Oh well, it really really REALLY must suck to be you then

Why so just recently you felt sorry for me why?
July 23rd 2013, 12:32 PM
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Quiztis
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Life? What's that? Can I download it?! 
Becuase I thought you've never experienced a fap. It won't hurt come on, try doing it again. It's a natural sexual behaviour and it is healthy for men to do it.
July 23rd 2013, 12:34 PM
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ThePunisher
Peasant He/Him Australia
(Tag Line) How long is this line. 
It won't hurt come on, try doing it again. It's a natural sxual behaviour and it is healthy for men to do it.
Im not falling for that again i dont want to injure myself again.
July 23rd 2013, 12:45 PM
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leprochaun
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Im not falling for that again i dont want to injure myself again.

Two things.

1: You actually did it once for believing in that argument?
2: You hurt yourself doing it?
July 23rd 2013, 12:47 PM
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ThePunisher
Peasant He/Him Australia
(Tag Line) How long is this line. 
You hurt yourself doing it?
Yes i did i recommend that you never do it
July 23rd 2013, 01:14 PM
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Skull
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Ive checked your youtube page and one of your video is about that pony show you do know its for little girls.

So according to you, you haven't gotten laid, but a guy who watches a "show for little girls", has. AND by a girl who knows he watches a "show for little girls", while you haven't got laid by anyone. Apparently a guy who watches little girl stuff, is also much tougher than you, because he can actually fap without getting injured.

Seriously, with that statement, you're just making yourself look even more pathetic.
July 23rd 2013, 01:24 PM
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I think this got slightly off topic.
July 23rd 2013, 01:33 PM
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Skull
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I think this got slightly off topic.

I don't think that matters since the topic was stupid anyway. Besides, ThePunisher doesn't start a topic to discuss about a certain point, but to argue with whatever the conversation gets led to.
July 23rd 2013, 01:54 PM
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leprochaun
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Did you like get a scar from doing it? Do you have a fapping battle wound?
July 23rd 2013, 01:56 PM
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leprochaun
Peasant He/Him Japan bloop
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I actually think more men watch MLP than little girls.
July 23rd 2013, 03:44 PM
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ThePunisher doesn't start a topic to discuss about a certain point, but to argue with whatever the conversation gets led to

Why don't you just ignore this guy ?
You shouldn't feed the trolls, you know.
July 23rd 2013, 03:44 PM
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KrisKnox
Peasant He/Him United States
The site's resident Therian (Dire Wolf, Dragon) 
Pred, if it hurts while doing it, then you're pulling too hard. Do not grasp, but gently fondle, like petting a kitty. Pet the kitty, do not rub the kitty, and the kitty will make you happy.

(Note: I am not writing about actually petting a cat, nor do I suggest you fondle your cat. Because that is weird.)
July 23rd 2013, 03:50 PM
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Maybe there is a tutorial on the internet.
July 23rd 2013, 03:56 PM
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Skull
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A Disembodied Sod 
(Note: I am not writing about actually petting a cat, nor do I suggest you fondle your cat. Because that is weird.)

Wait, so I've been doing it wrong for all these years? Dang!
July 23rd 2013, 04:26 PM
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July 23rd 2013, 09:28 PM
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DackFight
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How old is Pred anyway, and why is there now a description on how to fondle a cat, on our site/battlegrounds/world?
July 23rd 2013, 09:32 PM
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leprochaun
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I think Pred is 19.
July 23rd 2013, 09:34 PM
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DackFight
Peasant He/Him United States
Making Topics off-track faster then you can say it 
AND HE NEVER MASTURBATED!;( , he is a human guy right, or is he highly reli....nope hes apart of the Dn and the DDC allows fapping.
July 23rd 2013, 11:29 PM
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ThePunisher
Peasant He/Him Australia
(Tag Line) How long is this line. 
So according to you, you haven't gotten laid, but a guy who watches a "show for little girls", has. AND by a girl who knows he watches a "show for little girls", while you haven't got laid by anyone. Apparently a guy who watches little girl stuff, is also much tougher than you, because he can actually fap without getting injured.

Bullcrap you aint tougher then anybody and no you have not gotten i hate to say this word "Laid" (SHIVERS)
Pred, if it hurts while doing it, then you're pulling too hard. Do not grasp, but gently fondle, like petting a kitty. Pet the kitty, do not rub the kitty, and the kitty will make you happy.

Yep tried that many years ago and it just hurts so thats why i recommend you all to stop doing it.
July 24th 2013, 02:38 AM
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KrisKnox
Peasant He/Him United States
The site's resident Therian (Dire Wolf, Dragon) 
Pred, chances are you tugged too hard and it traumatized you. I think I speak for everyone else but you who has played with their kitty that it doesn't hurt for us.
July 24th 2013, 03:15 AM
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ThePunisher
Peasant He/Him Australia
(Tag Line) How long is this line. 
Pred, chances are you tugged too hard and it traumatized you. I think I speak for everyone else but you who has played with their kitty that it doesn't hurt for us.

Nope
July 24th 2013, 05:14 AM
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KrisKnox
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Are you denying that you tugged too hard, or are you denying that I and everyone else thinks it doesn't hurt?
July 24th 2013, 05:39 AM
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Spinnerweb
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Oh my GOD.... this thread moved so fast... it's hilarious!
July 24th 2013, 07:54 AM
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Skull
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Yep tried that many years ago and it just hurts so thats why i recommend you all to stop doing it.

What were you? Five? I can understand if it hurt back then, but during your teenage years? Either you have some serious... issue down there, or you're the biggest wimp I've ever seen.
July 24th 2013, 08:41 AM
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schnapper
Peasant He/Him Heard Island And Mcdonald Islands
Let us save our effort and just lie down and die. 
Meh.
July 24th 2013, 03:15 PM
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metatarasal
Bard He/Him Netherlands
I object 
I second that comment
July 24th 2013, 11:10 PM
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DackFight
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I vote that the staff don't close this topic since it's to funny, and Kris why are you still using a kitten as your target, maybe a banana might be a better host for your answer.
July 25th 2013, 12:46 AM
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KrisKnox
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The site's resident Therian (Dire Wolf, Dragon) 
Because, Dack, kitties are made for stroking, bananas are for splitting. I don't think people want their bananas to split.

Aaaand the image is back.
July 25th 2013, 01:35 AM
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DackFight
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you split banana peels, not bananas, you eat them or weirdos might put condoms on them.
July 25th 2013, 01:36 AM
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KrisKnox
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And yet again you miss the point. Which is somehow more irritating than Pred missing the point.
July 25th 2013, 03:06 AM
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ThePunisher
Peasant He/Him Australia
(Tag Line) How long is this line. 
What were you? Five? I can understand if it hurt back then, but during your teenage years? Either you have some serious... issue down there, or you're the biggest wimp I've ever seen.

Nope 13 or 14
July 25th 2013, 03:50 AM
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KrisKnox
Peasant He/Him United States
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Dude, go to the doctor and get yourself checked. If it hurts and you were that age, then you might have some sort of physical problem.

Else, you tugged too hard and/or are a wimp.
July 25th 2013, 04:46 AM
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Spinnerweb
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Was everything still in working order after that?
July 25th 2013, 10:45 AM
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Quiztis
Peasant He/Him Sweden bloop
Life? What's that? Can I download it?! 
How old are you now, Predator?
July 25th 2013, 01:35 PM
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DackFight
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I bet 5 cookies on 17.
July 25th 2013, 02:18 PM
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KrisKnox
Peasant He/Him United States
The site's resident Therian (Dire Wolf, Dragon) 
I'll take you bet and raise fifteen on eighteen. Whomever is closer gets the cookies.
July 25th 2013, 02:54 PM
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Skull
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He's 19. And autistic.

That is, if he's telling the truth.
July 25th 2013, 03:28 PM
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DackFight
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Making Topics off-track faster then you can say it 
No one wins the bet until Pred tells us himself, I don't need any bribing here.
July 25th 2013, 09:53 PM
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shevek
Peasant They/Them Netherlands
Never be afraid to ask, but don't demand an answer 
Well well, not reading the thread a few days gave me a longer time to catch up than I expected... I'm just going to answer Dinkulum's question anyway.

How so? It seems like we have tons of news sources and even more places to talk about it. Plus we have a fairly large element of suspicion in our culture that makes people want to find out what's really going on that "they" aren't telling us.

I really should do some research on this, because it's mostly what I've heard, and I'm not trying to really follow the news from "inside" even though I live here now. But here's what my feeling about it is:

There are many news sources, but the major ones are all owned by big companies, who have major interests in what the public thinks. They can use sneaky methods to let most people not talk about important things, or to blow up myths to a proportion where reasonable people will start to doubt if they are true. I can't find a proper reference at the moment, but I remember for example that a recent presidential election (I think Bush/Kerry, but I may remember wrong) was pretty much "decided" by Fox News simply calling the winner. Of course such a thing wouldn't have been possible without a very close result, but it's still very doubtful.

But there are more subtle things. I heard (again, I have not actually researched it myself) that some news show includes scripted political dialogs where the liberal participant always loses, for comical relief. This may be funny, but it's also a great way for pushing the news channel's anti-liberal viewpoints without looking like a marketing machine.

Good journalism requires journalists to be independent, try to cover all major sides of a story, giving proponents of those sides room to explain their case, and keep discussion focused on what's most important for the public to know. Most importantly, they must do research to find out what's really happening, and present that research to give people arguments for their case. There are obviously choices to be made while doing all that, and not all of them can be objective. These choices must be made with their mission (bringing news to the people) in mind, and personal interests must play no role. You can't expect this to be the case if a big company which does more than journalism is paying your salary.

So let me just comment shortly on what this means for what you mention:
- tons of news sources: yes, but somehow none of the independent ones are of any importance. This probably has to do with the amount of money the big companies can devote to it.
- tons of places to talk about it: yes, but the discussions are not (only) fueled by facts researched by good journalists, but by lobbyists, leading to people mostly discussing meaningless stuff.
- lots of suspicion: yes, but this is mostly abused by people making up hoaxes about lots of things, thereby making actual problems look like just another hoax.

I can't stress enough that I haven't checked if any of the above is true, it is just the view of a Dutch guy who heard it from people who visited here. I am also visiting here now, but I feel I don't get enough contact with the local news to confirm or falsify it. I don't have a TV; that may be a reason for that.
July 26th 2013, 03:52 AM
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MsDink
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Aint this got deep and meaningful... being serious here - maybe a circumcision is on the books if it hurt - means somethings wrong and needs attention. Promise ya pred it shouldnt hurt.

I saw you all cringe at that

Dang glad my nibblie bits arent up for discussion here hahaa.. ewe guise GEESH

July 26th 2013, 01:36 PM
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DackFight
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I didn't totally read the whole thing, but mainly the bullet points, one personal question arrives from the third bullet, is Sasquatch a hoax.
July 26th 2013, 02:22 PM
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KrisKnox
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*The topic flies over dack's head going 'nnnNNNEEEEOOOOWWWwww...'*
July 26th 2013, 07:09 PM
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DackFight
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that makes me think of peanut from the Jeff-fa-fa show.
July 26th 2013, 07:33 PM
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KrisKnox
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That's what I... Nevermind.
July 27th 2013, 12:04 AM
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Re: Shevek's reply.

Mkay. Well, I won't dispute any of that. There is a lot of bias and distortion that goes on, from what I've heard. In general the news is half seen as entertainment, at least when it comes to the commentary-style news shows. And people are entertained by having their own views bolstered. It happens on both sides of the political spectrum.

Now I have a question for KrisKnox.

Those are just the crimes that were reported. I don't trust statistics much, as they only use a small number to measure the large.

So what would you base your views on about how much violent crime men and women commit? Anecdotal evidence? Vague impressions?
July 27th 2013, 01:16 AM
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shevek
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In general the news is half seen as entertainment, at least when it comes to the commentary-style news shows. And people are entertained by having their own views bolstered.

Definitely. But that doesn't have much to do with journalism. In the Netherlands, I saw a documentary not so long ago about the abysmal way people in the mushroom-picking industry are treated. The reporter was shown to have a lot of trouble actually finding those workers, because the companies didn't cooperate, and when he finally found them, they told horrible stories (it's practically slave labor).

Such a documentary can have serious impact. There will be questions about it in the parliament, for example (and such questions may lead to sending the police over there). When a journalist does his work properly, there is no discussion about whether the presented information is true; journalists are trusted in principle, and if they are misbehaving, the offended party (in this case the company) can easily open up its doors and show that it's not true. I don't think I've ever seen that happen, though.

I really don't know if journalists here in the US do research, but if the news is only entertainment, they probably don't.

It happens on both sides of the political spectrum.

Certainly; I didn't mean to suggest that this was a one-party thing. However, most (if not all) good journalists in the Netherlands are a bit (or a lot) left-wing. I think this is because with their brains, they can get jobs which pay a lot better, but are less idealistic. If they were right-wing, they would have been more selfish, and they would have chosen the money.

But good journalists make it very clear when they are stating their opinion about the news, and when they are presenting facts as objectively as they can. So the fact that most good journalists are left-wing isn't a problem for the news quality.
July 27th 2013, 03:04 AM
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KrisKnox
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I look at all of the evidence that I can, ranging from reported statistics to happenings in various locations.
July 27th 2013, 03:51 PM
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DackFight
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1. if reporters reported fault, I think less people would watch it/them
2. Are the mushroom pickers really under slave labor?
3. OWLS.
4. Does anyone know how to kill a trapped spider.
July 27th 2013, 06:00 PM
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In the Netherlands, I saw a documentary not so long ago about the abysmal way people in the mushroom-picking industry are treated.

We have investigative journalism here too. Here was a controversial example of it that I remember seeing on TV. But the Wikipedia article does note the same thing you did, that it has declined because of the growth of media conglomerates. This organization may interest you. I happened to find it while searching just now.

As far as other serious journalism goes, I'd say the New York Times and NPR tend to be respected news sources. I'm sure there are others, but those are what come to mind.
July 28th 2013, 03:06 AM
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Dack, why would you want to kill a spider? Give them a smooch and let 'em go I say.
July 28th 2013, 07:17 AM
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I'm surprised no one has pointed this out, but if sex is painful, and childbirth is painful, and children ruin lives, why does Humanity still exist? The reason is simply that sex isn't painful, it's fun. Evolution made sure of that.
July 28th 2013, 10:46 AM
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ThePunisher
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(Tag Line) How long is this line. 
Well have you heard of the Brotherhood of Nod
July 28th 2013, 11:34 AM
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KrisKnox
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Have heard is vidoe gamae?!?111one111?
July 28th 2013, 03:51 PM
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DackFight
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1. I hate spiders
2. No I haven't heard of it, please explain it.
4. There is no 5
July 28th 2013, 05:00 PM
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DackFight
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what game?
July 28th 2013, 06:25 PM
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schnapper
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Let us save our effort and just lie down and die. 
Command and Conquer.
July 28th 2013, 06:53 PM
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DackFight
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Then I Command someone to rob a bank for me and I command someone else to conquer some cookies from robj using as much money that was stolen.

try the DN bank it's rumored to have tons of bananas, but was robbed of its cookies by someone.
July 28th 2013, 09:07 PM
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KrisKnox
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Someone doesn't steal cookies, though.
July 28th 2013, 09:52 PM
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DackFight
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then who did?