The Dink Network

How long will this community last?

October 29th 2011, 05:51 AM
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eug1404
Peasant He/Him New Zealand
 
Simple question: how long do you think the Dink community will last? It's been over half a decade since I last visited this site, and I'm shocked the D-Mods are still being released!

Ancillary question for bonus points: I heard they made an Android/iPhone version of dink, has this given the community a boost?
October 29th 2011, 06:01 AM
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Quiztis
Peasant He/Him Sweden bloop
Life? What's that? Can I download it?! 
Woah, another Dink veteran appears! It's amazing actually. I can't believe I'm still here.
October 29th 2011, 06:17 AM
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I think there have been a few members come here after playing the iPhone version, but not all that many. How long will the community last? That's a difficult question.

I don't think people will completely lose interest in playing Dink and dmods for a long time; retro games are cherished and appreciated more every day, so logically Dink will just keep getting better and better like a fine wine.

If redink1 (the webmaster) suddenly stops paying for this site, though, I think that could be a deathblow for the Dink community at large. Would anyone set up a new site and gather all the dmods there, and then keep it online for decades?
October 29th 2011, 06:46 AM
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duckhater
Peasant He/Him India
From The Depths Of Tartarus Itself 
I'm hoping that It'll last FOREVER!
October 29th 2011, 07:20 AM
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SabreTrout
Noble He/Him United Kingdom
Tigertigertiger. 
I'm starting to think a new site is the only way for this community to truly flourish again.
October 29th 2011, 07:51 AM
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MsDink
Peasant She/Her New Zealand
Tag - Umm.. tag, you're it? 
So many holes in this one its scary :I
October 29th 2011, 08:30 AM
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Marpro
Peasant He/Him bloop
 
It has lasted for longer than anyone could ever imagine it would, so I don't see how it wouldn't go on even further.

Sabre might be right. Early 2000ish feel of this site (a bit cozy though).
October 29th 2011, 09:18 AM
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duckhater
Peasant He/Him India
From The Depths Of Tartarus Itself 
This site is almost as old as me,the game is as old as me.Hey! Maybe that's why Dink is so great!.Because it was released the same year as me!
October 29th 2011, 09:29 AM
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Godley
Peasant They/Them
 
Because it was released the same year as me!

You were released???!!
October 29th 2011, 09:36 AM
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Marpro
Peasant He/Him bloop
 
Didn't you get one? I still got my Duckhater unboxed somewhere around here...
October 29th 2011, 09:38 AM
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duckhater
Peasant He/Him India
From The Depths Of Tartarus Itself 
Yeah,great people aren't born.THEY'RE RELEASED!
October 29th 2011, 10:09 AM
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schnapper
Peasant He/Him Heard Island And Mcdonald Islands
Let us save our effort and just lie down and die. 
I'm with Sabre here.
October 30th 2011, 12:21 PM
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Mrgantoe
Peasant He/Him Cuba
I'm simply a distraction. 
I am to scnapper I am to. Bit who will run it and who would moderate it we would be starting from ashes it would be a pretty interesting adventure for lack of a better term.
October 30th 2011, 12:45 PM
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KrisKnox
Peasant He/Him United States
The site's resident Therian (Dire Wolf, Dragon) 
It will last for a long time.
October 30th 2011, 12:46 PM
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Skull
Peasant He/Him Finland bloop
A Disembodied Sod 
I'm starting to think a new site is the only way for this community to truly flourish again.

The only way for this site to flourish again is that people stop saying things like that.
October 30th 2011, 12:51 PM
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Godley
Peasant They/Them
 
It will last as long as Dan Walma keeps paying for the server.
October 30th 2011, 12:52 PM
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duckhater
Peasant He/Him India
From The Depths Of Tartarus Itself 
I like this site,it's comfy like Marpro said.
October 30th 2011, 04:35 PM
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carrie2004
Peasant She/Her Canada
*chomp* 
Nobody can really ever leave. Mwahaha!
October 30th 2011, 06:21 PM
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schnapper
Peasant He/Him Heard Island And Mcdonald Islands
Let us save our effort and just lie down and die. 
Yep. It's secretly the Hotel California.
October 30th 2011, 07:07 PM
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Mrgantoe
Peasant He/Him Cuba
I'm simply a distraction. 
You can log out bit you can never leave!
October 30th 2011, 07:30 PM
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SabreTrout
Noble He/Him United Kingdom
Tigertigertiger. 
No, Skull, there's a huge difference between saying "this place sucks it was so much better in 2004 omg so many n00bs omg" and suggesting the community might need a new site to flourish.

The sad facts are that the keys to the Network have been lost. This stops staff members from doing anything but the most basic of administrative tasks. We can't change staff members, we can't ban people, we can't change the partner sites. Etc. I like this site as much as anyone - it's like a comfy old boot - but it's going to remain largely stagnant unless Redink comes back or someone builds a new site.

I can't make websites, btwfwiw.
October 30th 2011, 10:19 PM
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yeoldetoast
Peasant They/Them Australia
LOOK UPON MY DEFORMED FACE! 
Every time a new site is suggested everybody either laughs or turns up their nose. There's a lot of "history" contained here.

There's always the RTsoft forums!
October 31st 2011, 05:46 AM
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Skull
Peasant He/Him Finland bloop
A Disembodied Sod 
There's not anyone on this site at the moment that even should be banned, so I don't see the problem there. The staff members have done a better job recently, and in case they continue doing so, there's not a reason why they should be changed. The constant complaining about the partners list is pointless and annoying. And Redink ain't obviously gonna come back to change all this. We don't need one, massive change to fix this place. If we do enough small changes, such as contribute and act nice on the forum, without constantly talking about things like these, it's going to work out much better.

The bottom line is, if someone makes a new "Dink Network", over half of the current members aren't going to change ship. I love this community, but I doubt I, myself, wouldn't jump from this site to another.

Plus, it would be wrong towards Redink. He's still doing the biggest job for this site, he's actually paying for it. It would be very sad if he continued paying for this site, and we ended up making another site, instead of making things over here better.
October 31st 2011, 10:11 AM
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Marpro
Peasant He/Him bloop
 
Plus, it would be wrong towards Redink. He's still doing the biggest job for this site, he's actually paying for it. It would be very sad if he continued paying for this site, and we ended up making another site, instead of making things over here better.

I agree.
However, this is also one of the main problems, when the staff aren't allowed to make any changes and Redink isn't available to assist or hardly ever visiting the site anymore (as far as I know).
October 31st 2011, 11:08 AM
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schnapper
Peasant He/Him Heard Island And Mcdonald Islands
Let us save our effort and just lie down and die. 
It is noble of Tal and Dan to support the network financially, but both of them are, from a practical point of view, uninvolved with the Dink Community and inaccessible/ disinterested.

The con of starting a new site is mainly that the dung comes with the flock. The pro is that power can be put in the hands of the proactive, so that the website can evolve to suite the needs of the community, the enshrinement of Dink Smallwood and the perpetuation of fun.
October 31st 2011, 11:11 AM
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This site is like the Dink engine--quirky, limited, adequate for some and frustrating for others. I do think there are things we can do to make this site better within its limits, but it's sad that we have no power to improve the infrastructure.

Edit: It would be great if Dan would be willing to give the admin password to someone else so they could modify the code. That would be the simplest solution.
October 31st 2011, 12:32 PM
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duckhater
Peasant He/Him India
From The Depths Of Tartarus Itself 
I'll make sure he does!
*takes out Samurai sword*
October 31st 2011, 01:20 PM
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iplaydink
Peasant He/Him Sweden
Hmm.. 
This community will last until it's destroyed by daleks...

Wait, what's that?

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/.......\\>--◖ EXTERMINATE!
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There was only fire.

And then, nothing.

October 31st 2011, 01:54 PM
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Quiztis
Peasant He/Him Sweden bloop
Life? What's that? Can I download it?! 
I died.
October 31st 2011, 04:04 PM
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Mrgantoe
Peasant He/Him Cuba
I'm simply a distraction. 
Now I've seen that before Linus. I say we should have one half of the DN take over the world. Whilst the other half feeds off the superstition of others and promise DDC Dink Dink-C and Foruming as a safe haven.
October 31st 2011, 11:25 PM
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SabreTrout
Noble He/Him United Kingdom
Tigertigertiger. 
Predator would be permabanned the moment I had the power to do so. The notion that he shouldn't be banned is utterly ludicrous.
November 1st 2011, 09:00 AM
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Skull
Peasant He/Him Finland bloop
A Disembodied Sod 
It's absurd that you say that Redink should give you power and the thing you would do first is ban Predator. Do you really think that is the top problem of ours and if we got rid of him this site would get better? No. How about quitting your moaning and go make a D-Mod or review a file, instead?
November 1st 2011, 09:36 AM
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SabreTrout
Noble He/Him United Kingdom
Tigertigertiger. 
Why on the world do you think that's absurd? Predator sends aggressive and insulting PMs to a number of members on a regular basis. He has posts deleted almost every day due to their abusive nature. I've had a number of Dinkers complain to me about his behaviour - Just because you don't see the problems he causes it doesn't mean they aren't very real and troubling for other people.

Of course I'd ban him and of course the site would be better off without his presence.

Also, stop shouting at the strawman.
November 1st 2011, 10:45 AM
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Quiztis
Peasant He/Him Sweden bloop
Life? What's that? Can I download it?! 
It's very strange how you could not see the damage and general insults he posts/PMs on a daily basis here, Skull, and that's a problem of top priority. Of course this site would be better without him.
November 1st 2011, 10:59 AM
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Godley
Peasant They/Them
 
The sad facts are that the keys to the Network have been lost. This stops staff members from doing anything but the most basic of administrative tasks. We can't change staff members, we can't ban people, we can't change the partner sites. Etc. I like this site as much as anyone - it's like a comfy old boot - but it's going to remain largely stagnant unless Redink comes back or someone builds a new site.

November 1st 2011, 11:04 AM
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Godley
Peasant They/Them
 
Anyone know often does Dan Walma check facebook?
November 1st 2011, 11:05 AM
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'Bout as often as he checks his email, probably
November 1st 2011, 11:30 AM
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Marpro
Peasant He/Him bloop
 
^Win.
November 1st 2011, 11:50 AM
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Godley
Peasant They/Them
 
I last heard he was very VERY VERY active on Xbox Live, so please, PLEASE PLEASE bother him there.
November 1st 2011, 11:57 AM
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iplaydink
Peasant He/Him Sweden
Hmm.. 
I have to agree with sabre here, Pred has made a tons of rasist thread (not as many resently though) and in every post he insults other members. It shouldn't be acceptable.
November 1st 2011, 12:01 PM
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Skull
Peasant He/Him Finland bloop
A Disembodied Sod 
Predator's threads have topics that Predator likes. You don't have to like his threads. You can as well ignore them. Sure, he has a bad temper, but his aggressive behavior comes from your unfairness towards him. It's unfortunate that you decide to flame him, delete his posts and close his threads out of all the retardness on this forum. I haven't flamed nor spammed him, and he hasn't been aggressive at all towards me. Maybe you should give him fair treatment, and some respect. That way he would at least have something to lose in case he acts stupid.

This site wouldn't get any better with or without him. If he was gone, people would have a new source of complaining in a few days, and some people could even possibly miss him.
November 1st 2011, 12:05 PM
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Anyone know often does Dan Walma check facebook?

I wrote to Dan around the beginning of July on Facebook and never heard from him.
November 1st 2011, 12:08 PM
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duckhater
Peasant He/Him India
From The Depths Of Tartarus Itself 
@Skull
I wish there was a like option! Coz that post deserves thousands of 'em!
November 1st 2011, 12:10 PM
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I haven't flamed nor spammed him, and he hasn't been aggressive at all towards me.

This has been my experience too.
November 1st 2011, 12:19 PM
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duckhater
Peasant He/Him India
From The Depths Of Tartarus Itself 
Mine too!
November 1st 2011, 01:59 PM
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iplaydink
Peasant He/Him Sweden
Hmm.. 
I haven't done anything to him either but he still sends me PMs like this one:

"Didnt you say you where blonde that must explain youre stupidity."

I, haven't done anything but saying I am blonde when he asked about our haircolors. I ask you Skull, is that ok? Saying things like that?
November 1st 2011, 02:12 PM
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darksign13
Peasant He/Him United States
Hungry, Horney, and Helpless... Take me home. 
And here is the one he sent me earlier today:

Title: what is wrong with your nation

STOP BEING SELFISH GREEDY PIGS.

That was all of it. That doesn't even seem rational, let alone polite.
November 1st 2011, 02:22 PM
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Skull
Peasant He/Him Finland bloop
A Disembodied Sod 
I'm sure you'll find a rational explanation if you just ask him. It's not ok to say things like that, but there might be something that happened in his life that causes him to react stronger to things than other people do. This is why his opinions and posts always appear aggressive.

He sent me PM's at one point too. But I don't care. And neither should you. He might have reasons why he's mad.
November 1st 2011, 02:53 PM
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I, haven't done anything but saying I am blonde when he asked about our haircolors.

Well see, only blonde people are dumb enough to tell Predator that they're blonde. So he was right!

But yeah, a while back he sent me a few inflammatory PMs like the one darksign13 quoted, but I replied calmly, and eventually he stopped. Maybe he lost interest or something.

Edit: I guess what I'm saying there is that he wasn't insulting me personally, only my country (when I asked, he said he didn't hate me just for being American). But yeah, sounds like he was insulting you, Iplaydink.
November 1st 2011, 06:14 PM
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Quiztis
Peasant He/Him Sweden bloop
Life? What's that? Can I download it?! 
Filth and trolls needs to be dealt with. With the banhammer. Some can't handle trolls/insulters whatev very well and starts feeding/give in to them and those users experience on the internet are ruined, flamewars starts etc.

This is very small forum and might not be a concern to everyone, but you can't avoid noticing him ruin some users experience here.
November 1st 2011, 08:39 PM
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DinkDude95
Peasant He/Him Australia
The guy with the cute D-Mod. 
Are you being obnoxiously ignorant on purpose or do you seriously believe that he shouldn't be banned?

This, for me right now, is one of those severe WTF moments.
November 1st 2011, 09:48 PM
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Mrgantoe
Peasant He/Him Cuba
I'm simply a distraction. 
I sent a email to dan asking for permission to use some graphics an he as seers almost immeadeatly. He has been on the X-Boxsisis quite a bit but that seems really unfair for me to bug him on his free time about something he supports.
Personly I've only ever got on PM from pred. I was quite exited to tell the truth these things don't come around so often you know . I opened it and really he earned some respect points with the contents. It was something to the effect of "why did you move to America Ireland is such a nice country?"
November 1st 2011, 11:42 PM
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SabreTrout
Noble He/Him United Kingdom
Tigertigertiger. 
"his aggressive behavior comes from your unfairness towards him. It's unfortunate that you decide to flame him, delete his posts and close his threads out of all the retardness on this forum."


November 2nd 2011, 12:50 AM
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MsDink
Peasant She/Her New Zealand
Tag - Umm.. tag, you're it? 
I don't believe aggressive behaviour, here or anywhere else, is caused by others - its the users total lack of self control that lets them attack others both verbally (and physically) and I feel its just indicative of a lower maturity level that allows them to then actually have the audacity to blame others for those actions. Its laughable really, Come on! Take responsibility for how you behave because noone is forcing you to do anything you don't want to.

Basically we have rules here - this isn't a free for all forum - its moderated - to use it you play by the rules - certain posters think these rules don't apply to them - this is incorrect.

You flaunt the rules - your posts get deleted - end of story! We have some awesome staff here, they need our support to continue to keep it user friendly.

Great - years ago it was so special here and thats cool - but I personally wanna live in the here and now and not whine about what I dont have but what I can assist to build instead Thats my focus and why I am still here. You lot are a nice bunch of guys - NOW is the best time for us, lets enjoy it huh.
November 2nd 2011, 01:53 AM
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DinkDude95
Peasant He/Him Australia
The guy with the cute D-Mod. 
The Dink Network Mum has spoken!

MsDink, I love you.
November 2nd 2011, 03:24 AM
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MsDink
Peasant She/Her New Zealand
Tag - Umm.. tag, you're it? 
DD95!! I am seriously dying laffing here ya cheeky wee buggar lolol
November 2nd 2011, 04:02 AM
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schnapper
Peasant He/Him Heard Island And Mcdonald Islands
Let us save our effort and just lie down and die. 
I have met several lads in my life who are bitter and aggressive, people who are typically shunned by society's mainstream and derided by their' peers. Of cause, these people react negatively, as anyone would.

What I realise is that time is a great healer; usually these diamonds in the rough need someone to look past their' "hard b@stard" mask and see that deep down someone is hurting, but everyone else is too judgemental to stop and help... it takes a good Samaritan to change this.

We all have holes in our lives that we try to fill in one way or another. Some try to fill their' voids by pushing others away, or by being radically different etc.

Put yourself in their shoes. You say that they're not really suffering true loss? Too that person, a loss that seems little to you is their whole world, so don't judge others by your' prejudices.

November 2nd 2011, 04:09 AM
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MsDink
Peasant She/Her New Zealand
Tag - Umm.. tag, you're it? 
November 2nd 2011, 06:28 AM
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Skull
Peasant He/Him Finland bloop
A Disembodied Sod 
Predator has posted things that are against the rules. Yes. These posts deserve to get deleted, but that doesn't mean all of his posts should get deleted for no reason at all. Many of his posts, that perfectly followed the rules, have been deleted. That shouldn't happen. Just cause he makes mistakes sometimes doesn't mean he should suffer when he does not make one. Also, I'm tired of people thinking they have the right to flame him, if he flames them. The fact that some people can't stop flaming him and just ignore him, only shows that those people are weaker than Predator himself is.

I completely agree with Schnapper.

EDIT: As I said, it's not Predator who ruins this network. It's debates like these.
November 2nd 2011, 06:43 AM
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SabreTrout
Noble He/Him United Kingdom
Tigertigertiger. 
I may have just deleted another post by Predator.

Predator has threatened to physically assault and kill people on this site and as ludicrous a thought as that is, he is not welcome here and never will be while I'm involved with this community. You only get so many chances and he's blown all of his.
November 2nd 2011, 06:52 AM
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MsDink
Peasant She/Her New Zealand
Tag - Umm.. tag, you're it? 
YUS totally bad form no matter what your circumstances - that doesn't excuse bad behaviour in any way shape or form. People are pretty forgiving here if u meet them half way ... just saying
November 2nd 2011, 07:08 AM
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duckhater
Peasant He/Him India
From The Depths Of Tartarus Itself 
Many people use phrases like ''I'll kill you!'', ''I'm gonna duck you up'' in their general lingo without actually meaning it.They use it just to express themselves and they don't find anything wrong with it,neither should you.Pred is one of those people.
November 2nd 2011, 07:41 AM
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Godley
Peasant They/Them
 
You cant read SabreTrout's mind!!

November 2nd 2011, 08:11 AM
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ThePunisher
Peasant He/Him Australia
(Tag Line) How long is this line. 
@Sabre Godley threatened to rape DD and you arnt trying to ban Godley you stupid hypocrite.

Predator has threatened to physically assault and kill people on this site and as ludicrous a thought as that is, he is not welcome here and never will be while I'm involved with this community. You only get so many chances and he's blown all of his.

I threatend to bash you up ONCE but thats because all you do all day is cry and moan and delete my messages that are mostly unoffensive.

AND YOU DIDNT GIVE ANYBODY CHANCES STOP WITH THE LIES.

your just a fish in a dry dry dry dam all washed with no friends.

November 2nd 2011, 08:17 AM
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SabreTrout
Noble He/Him United Kingdom
Tigertigertiger. 
I don't care about you insulting me.

It's the messages you're sending to other people that concern me. I've read some of these messages and you haven't got a leg to stand on. Extremely naughty behaviour.

EDIT: Link to Godley's post, if you please.
November 2nd 2011, 08:21 AM
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ThePunisher
Peasant He/Him Australia
(Tag Line) How long is this line. 
How about the crap that DD posts all of the blame is coming onto me that why i HATE you Sabre.Hate is a strong word but it sums up everything that i feel towards you.
November 2nd 2011, 08:32 AM
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Skull
Peasant He/Him Finland bloop
A Disembodied Sod 
So what, Sabre? Don't pretend you're concerned about a person on Internet who threatens to kill someone. This happens on the Internet all the time, as jokes and as flaming. I've threatened people on this site, and all you did was send me a PM. As a matter of fact, I don't believe it even was you who sent the PM.

Or how about the time a little while ago, when this one Dinker threatened to kill himself. You didn't seem to react anyhow to that, so don't tell me now all of a sudden you're concerned.

Think what you like, most of you are being unfair and total asses towards Predator. Yes, he has been an ass towards you too, but that doesn't mean you get the permission to suddenly do that too. It's much worse and concerning to gang up on one person, constantly picking on him, than one person to post his opinions and sometimes behave aggressively.
November 2nd 2011, 08:54 AM
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yeoldetoast
Peasant They/Them Australia
LOOK UPON MY DEFORMED FACE! 
Yeah, let's all be mean to Skull instead.
November 2nd 2011, 08:55 AM
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Godley
Peasant They/Them
 
Yeah, let's all be mean to Skull instead.

^
Epic Win!!
November 2nd 2011, 09:01 AM
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@Sabre Godley threatened to rape DD and you arnt trying to ban Godley you stupid hypocrite.

Predator has threatened to physically assault and kill people on this site and as ludicrous a thought as that is, he is not welcome here and never will be while I'm involved with this community. You only get so many chances and he's blown all of his.

I threatend to bash you up ONCE but thats because all you do all day is cry and moan and delete my messages that are mostly unoffensive.

AND YOU DIDNT GIVE ANYBODY CHANCES STOP WITH THE LIES.

your just a fish in a dry dry dry dam all washed with no friends.


Haha, oh man.
November 2nd 2011, 09:11 AM
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+1
November 2nd 2011, 09:20 AM
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SabreTrout
Noble He/Him United Kingdom
Tigertigertiger. 
Not sure how to respond to Skull's last post... seems more than a tad unfair.
November 2nd 2011, 09:47 AM
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Godley
Peasant They/Them
 
Not sure how to respond to Skull's last post

With a Ban!
November 2nd 2011, 10:01 AM
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Quiztis
Peasant He/Him Sweden bloop
Life? What's that? Can I download it?! 
08. There are no real rules about posting.
09. There are no real rules about moderation either - enjoy your ban.
November 2nd 2011, 03:10 PM
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darksign13
Peasant He/Him United States
Hungry, Horney, and Helpless... Take me home. 
@MsDink: How come everything you say always sounds so nice? I seriously think you could find a way to curse like a sailor and leave us all saying "awe that's so cute".

@Skull: If he has repression issues, he needs to take it out on a punching bag, not a discussion board. I really am starting to think you just like to be contrary, though. Have you ever agreed with the consensus on anything here, because I can't remember an instance. Seriously, post a link!
November 2nd 2011, 03:26 PM
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MsDink
Peasant She/Her New Zealand
Tag - Umm.. tag, you're it? 
@MsDink: How come everything you say always sounds so nice? I seriously think you could find a way to curse like a sailor and leave us all saying "awe that's so cute".

It does? *grins* I think you are coming along quite nicely you wee flatterer you A few more weeks and you will be bringing me coffee on demand - who knows I might even get you into some cleaning <insert evil chuckle>
November 2nd 2011, 03:34 PM
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darksign13
Peasant He/Him United States
Hungry, Horney, and Helpless... Take me home. 
I just put your coffee in the mail. They said it should be there in 3-5 business days. If you find a way for me to do long distance cleaning, I'll be glad to just for the shear novelty of it!
November 2nd 2011, 08:39 PM
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yeoldetoast
Peasant They/Them Australia
LOOK UPON MY DEFORMED FACE! 
He wanted Skorn banned at a time when everyone else wanted him gone.
November 2nd 2011, 10:14 PM
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Mrgantoe
Peasant He/Him Cuba
I'm simply a distraction. 
No one should be banned it's not permanent and when they come back they'll be fired up more then ever it's a practice that can't stop tripping over itself.
November 3rd 2011, 03:16 AM
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Skull
Peasant He/Him Finland bloop
A Disembodied Sod 
I always disagree about these things because you people pick the exact wrong moment to ban someone and start picking on him. If you wanted to ban him, you should have done it after the first three posts of Predator. But now, that he has gotten much better in behaving, now you start talking about banning him, and pick on him even more. I wouldn't care so much in any other case, but he has improved. Not much, but he has, so this is the time you should encourage him to get better, instead of threatening him with ban. That time was over after he stopped using his Hitler name. Talking about banning him is only gonna make the situation worse, especially since you don't have the power to ban him.

And for the record, I still don't think Skorn should be banned. Although I could think very differently, considering his other account is still silenced, which technically means he still isn't allowed to even post.

EDIT: I also think it is very wrong of you to delete his posts that completely follow the forum's rules. Such as this one.
November 3rd 2011, 05:49 AM
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He hasn't improved, we improve everything for him though.
We (Tal) didn't ban him.
We (DuckHater) bumped his threads when they could be left for dead.
We (enchilado) made him an account.
We (zeddexx) negotiated with him in PMs. I thought negotiations meant he'd also partake in the deal. But zeddexx just started spoon-feeding him, and he got worse than ever.
So no, he hasn't improved.
November 3rd 2011, 06:25 AM
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Skull
Peasant He/Him Finland bloop
A Disembodied Sod 
He hasn't improved, we improve everything for him though.

He has improved. As a matter of fact, he used to go on spam ramapages similar to your past spam rampages. He doesn't do that anymore. He just simply states his opinion and gets mad for certain people picking on him.

We (Tal) didn't ban him.

He shouldn't have. If we start looking at only mistakes, then we might as well all get banned. As a matter of fact, I'm surprised how all this picking and ban threatening has all fallen on Predator instead of you.

We (DuckHater) bumped his threads when they could be left for dead.

Duckhater was interested in those threads. There's nothing wrong with that.

We (enchilado) made him an account.

Problem? Or do you think without an account he wouldn't be here anymore. I doubt it.

We (zeddexx) negotiated with him in PMs. I thought negotiations meant he'd also partake in the deal. But zeddexx just started spoon-feeding him, and he got worse than ever.

You don't have right to talk crap about anyone. You haven't done a single deed that has effected this network positively.

And finally, yes he has improved. Just like you have. You used to act almost exactly similar.
November 3rd 2011, 06:31 AM
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Quiztis
Peasant He/Him Sweden bloop
Life? What's that? Can I download it?! 
Thou shalt not encourage piracy! :
November 3rd 2011, 07:56 AM
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duckhater
Peasant He/Him India
From The Depths Of Tartarus Itself 
@''You used to act
almost exactly similar''.
Have you guys ever heard the saying ''The person you fight with the most is the person you're most like''?(or something like that).I find this VERY ironic.
November 3rd 2011, 09:39 AM
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schnapper
Peasant He/Him Heard Island And Mcdonald Islands
Let us save our effort and just lie down and die. 
He shouldn't have. If we start looking at only mistakes, then we might as well all get banned. As a matter of fact, I'm surprised how all this picking and ban threatening has all fallen on Predator instead of you.


Skull's right, you know. If anyone has made matters worse, it's been DD, Absolution and Godley. Happily, you've all slowed down in that department; we all make mistakes.
November 3rd 2011, 09:54 AM
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Godley
Peasant They/Them
 
If anyone has made matters worse, it's been DD, Absolution and Godley.

November 3rd 2011, 10:30 AM
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Skull
Peasant He/Him Finland bloop
A Disembodied Sod 
You shouldn't be sad. You have improved, so you should be happy. Predator has shown signs of improving, so I think people should just give him time. Some Dinkers that are legends now took years to improve their behavior. Sabre used to be in fights all the time. Admit it, Sabre!
November 3rd 2011, 07:24 PM
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SabreTrout
Noble He/Him United Kingdom
Tigertigertiger. 
There's a massive difference.

I wasn't racist. I didn't threaten people. I didn't call people abusive names. I didn't create ridiculously inflammatory topics on a near daily basis.

I argued about d-mods.
November 3rd 2011, 09:04 PM
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MsDink
Peasant She/Her New Zealand
Tag - Umm.. tag, you're it? 
How long will this community last?

Longer if people stop trying to *fix* others (mainly because no-one thinks they're broken) - none of us will behave well when told what to do by another - first thought is REBELL REBELLLL or you aint my mum!! Second thought is 'sort yourself first you have no right to tell me how to behave you BEEP' .. *shrugs* just my take on forum police.
Signed MsCow
November 4th 2011, 04:00 AM
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He has improved. As a matter of fact, he used to go on spam ramapages similar to your past spam rampages. He doesn't do that anymore. He just simply states his opinion and gets mad for certain people picking on him.
Rampages? It was just one rampage, I apologized.
November 4th 2011, 04:10 AM
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Godley
Peasant They/Them
 
Rampages? It was just one rampage, I apologized.

Huh! When? Where? Link please.
November 4th 2011, 05:54 AM
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November 4th 2011, 06:47 AM
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Skull
Peasant He/Him Finland bloop
A Disembodied Sod 
One word, Sabre: Safmoor.
November 4th 2011, 11:05 PM
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SabreTrout
Noble He/Him United Kingdom
Tigertigertiger. 
Ok, I did argue a little bit.

But your point is still way off the mark. Punisher isn't just argumentative - He's a massive racist and extremely aggressive to people on this forum.

Oh, and Safmoor was massive a tool. http://www.dinknetwork.com/forum.cgi?MID=26962
November 5th 2011, 04:24 AM
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Skull
Peasant He/Him Finland bloop
A Disembodied Sod 
I wasn't exactly comparing you and Predator. But you can't deny there have been some great improvements on this site over the years.

What I'm saying is, this is the exact worst moment to constantly flame him, annoy him, pick on him and threaten him with ban. If we keep doing this, it will guarantee he won't even try to improve, cause we're showing him that we aren't grateful.

And closing his threads constantly and deleting his posts are also a tad bit stupid. The rules don't state anywhere that you can't post as many threads about a subject of your liking as you want. All they state is that "Posting off-topic or general discussion threads that go unanswered or are met with tepid or negative responses usually means the community is either uninterested or annoyed". It does not state anywhere that you cannot do this, even if we are annoyed or uninterested. Besides, there are people who are not uninterested in his threads.

The rules also don't state that you cannot give out your opinion, for example, about America. The rules state "We have a fair number of people here with strong opinions, so occasional disputes are expected. If you can get through them without taking them personally, you'll do just fine". So as a matter of fact, we're the one's who are being total jackasses for taking everything he says personally.
November 5th 2011, 07:54 AM
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The rules don't state ...

Don't be an anal monkey; TDN's rules are basic guidelines on common netiquette, it's not designed to be taken as an exhaustive list of what-tos and what-nots.
November 5th 2011, 08:50 AM
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Skull
Peasant He/Him Finland bloop
A Disembodied Sod 
Dude, no need to be so aggressive. I guess you're really wanting to show you shouldn't be on the staff. Can't say I blame you. I would be mad at myself too if I used my staff power unfairly, based on who I like and who I don't.
November 5th 2011, 09:22 AM
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SabreTrout
Noble He/Him United Kingdom
Tigertigertiger. 
Scratcher is a very good staff member, Skull.

All the (present) staff are excellent, despite having to put up with all manner of insults thrown their way.
November 5th 2011, 09:27 AM
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leprochaun
Peasant He/Him Japan bloop
Responsible for making things not look like ass 
It'll last till 2998, because that's when the copyright ends.
November 5th 2011, 10:09 AM
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MrGantoe
Peasant He/Him Cuba
I'm simply a distraction. 
Don't be an anal monkey; TDN's rules are basic guidelines on common netiquette, it's not designed to be taken as an exhaustive list of what-tos and what-nots.

I use it to guide my life guess I should stop . Well let's see the current staff are amazing they're very tightly packed and it's been like that for a really long time. Changing staff or taking them away would only result in people getting mad or having the staff team be not as effective.
November 5th 2011, 10:12 AM
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Skull
Peasant He/Him Finland bloop
A Disembodied Sod 
Scratcher is a very good staff member, Skull.

His post up there tells a different story. If a staff member really wants others to stop flaming, he really shouldn't be doing it himself. He also shouldn't use his staff powers on people he doesn't simply happen to like. Just saying.
November 5th 2011, 10:29 AM
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Godley
Peasant They/Them
 
It'll last till 2998, because that's when the copyright ends.

Thats for RedRecondite: Dan Walma's blog and not for DinkNetwork.
November 5th 2011, 05:34 PM
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Dude, no need to be so aggressive ... His post up there tells a different story ... he really shouldn't be doing it [flaming] himself

dang, I knew I should have used "dotducker" instead of "anal monkey".
November 5th 2011, 05:37 PM
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MsDink
Peasant She/Her New Zealand
Tag - Umm.. tag, you're it? 
Nah, I thought anal monkey was awesome although, dotducker does have a certain charm to it...
Staff need our support in these dark and cold times!
November 5th 2011, 07:52 PM
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yeoldetoast
Peasant They/Them Australia
LOOK UPON MY DEFORMED FACE! 
Fairly sure this site has no rules.
November 6th 2011, 12:34 AM
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I've been accessing the files of TDN, and here's what I found:
Skorn Unmade, from his troll days: "Look it up YOU DRUNK SH!T!"
Hitler: Too many to choose from ... "F#ck you kyle f you dd f you zeddexx f you krisnox f you absolution ..."
Predator: "F#CK YOU!" "Hypocrite"
ThePunisher: "@DinkDoodler Arrogant Muslim prick" "F#CK YOU!"
Hmm... a) he's flamed everyone 3 times as much as Skorn, b) he hasn't been banned like Skorn was, c) Skull repeatedly ganged up on Skorn ("Skorn sucks! Plain and simple.") with the other Dinkers, and here you snap at us for having a laugh at Predator's idiocy.
I have nothing against you, just pointin' it out. Because you shout.
November 6th 2011, 02:43 AM
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Skull
Peasant He/Him Finland bloop
A Disembodied Sod 
I never ganged up on Skorn with anyone. In fact, I think what you're forgetting here is that when everybody else wanted Skorn gone, I stood up for him. And still would. It's not as much the threats about banning that piss me off, but it's the fact that people gang up on others, and act even worse than the "big flamer" himself. I never ganged up on anyone, but I've been ganged up against many times for no reason, so I know how that feels.

I can't help the fact that Preds hasn't been banned. That's Redink's fault, not mine. But since whe have no means of banning him at this point, we might as well try to make him act better, instead of threatening him with a ban that will most likely never happen.

It pisses me off how you and Skorn still keep picking on Predator. It goes to show how badly you, yourself behave. Plus, you two have less than a charming history in TDN, so you're not in place to lay the law down on anybody.
November 6th 2011, 02:49 AM
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I wasn't even trying to lay down the law, Dertin.
All I was saying is, why are you picking on Skorn and me for picking on Predator when you yourself picked on Skorn and ganged up on him? You don't have exactly the best history either, with 4 banned accounts, so you, as well, should not lay the law down on anyone.
Although the DN was a friendlier place when everyone DID gang up on Skorn. So yeah, ganging up on Predator isn't such a bad idea.
November 6th 2011, 03:40 AM
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Skull
Peasant He/Him Finland bloop
A Disembodied Sod 
This has nothing to do with multiple accounts. Nor anything to do with what happened years ago. You are in such a desperate situation you are trying to pull every shield to protect you, just cause "you could never do anything wrong". Besides, if you want to bring old things into this, I'm the only one of you, Predator, Skorn and myself who has never went on a spam rampage. Posting dozens of senseless flame and spam threads for over a week, which you, Skorn and Predator did, is way worse than multiple accounts. I've had the cleanest of history out of us. But this hasn't anything to do with it.

This has to do with how you're behaving now. If you don't like Preds' behaviour, just ignore him. Otherwise you'll end up having a real miserable time at this site. Because Predator isn't going to get banned, at least anytime soon. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't cry if he did, but fact is there's nothing the staff can do except close his threads. If you want him to stop, try to act nicer, instead of being even more of an ass than he is.

And as I said, I'm not picking on Skorn. I usually ignore him until he comes over and talks crap at me. Most of the time I ignore him even when he starts talking crap at me.
November 6th 2011, 04:17 AM
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I'm not desperate.
You too, are pointing at my rampage from a year ago.
I'm not miserable. It's fun reading his posts.
But yeah, since 2011 is marked by flamewar, I'll be nicer now. I guess.
Or be around less.
November 6th 2011, 04:38 AM
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MsDink
Peasant She/Her New Zealand
Tag - Umm.. tag, you're it? 
you are a poet DD!
November 6th 2011, 04:48 AM
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ROFL it rhymes!
November 6th 2011, 05:43 AM
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Skull
Peasant He/Him Finland bloop
A Disembodied Sod 
*Sigh* I give up. You reply to my posts without even paying any attention to them. I said I *could* point out your spam rampage if I wanted to, but I'm not going to do that. But yeah, it's true that your history effects on how stupid you look picking on Predator. A guy who used to spam like hell and create tons of wrestling threads is now picking on a person who's doing the exact same thing. Let me remind you, that you were at first suspected to be Predator. That's how similar you are.

As a final statement in this thread, Predator is not getting banned. No matter if you, me or even the staff want it. Because Redink won't reply even to the most respected members of this site. So you can either continue picking on him, make him angry and guarantee he'll make us all miserable as a revenge, or you can start acting nicely to him, and encourage him to act better, so we'll all be happy.
November 6th 2011, 08:20 AM
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Tons. Indade.
Not that there ain't wrong anythin' with a few wrestling threads, but when you make a hundred, it gets boring.
And my picking on him is mainly for saying "F#CK YOU" to everything that's on the forum, being racist, and, well, I didn't spam like hell except for the one I apologized for. (put on repeat)
November 6th 2011, 04:48 PM
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Mrgantoe
Peasant He/Him Cuba
I'm simply a distraction. 
I think we should build a decoy dinknetwork over a volcano. Now remember it's not very steady at all. If you want to flame talk trash spam curse without reason or taunt someone they go there.