The Dink Network

Hi, folks! I've started a completely new D-Mod. This is because, I wanted to forget those old D-Mods of mine for a moment.

Anyways, this D-Mod is completely different style that what I usually do, and I am even myself, very interested how this will turn out to be.

Plot:
Dink thinks he has bought a manor from Eastern Islands, but suddenly notices that his house is just piece of duck-poop. When he introductes himself to some of his new neighbors, one of the people knows him, and tells that Dink's father, Nathan Smallwood, is being held as a prisoner by Goblins, in the Castle of Glamour.

Map:
The map is gonna kick the crap out of my older D-Mods' maps. This time it is gonna be HUGE and more like a real world, and not like a path you must follow all the time. This time, it is gonna be more detailed, aswell.

Gameplay:
The actual main quest, is more like a sidequest. There is gonna be so much to do in the D-Mod.

Some new features:
-You can buy a few houses in every village (you can save your game in the houses)
-There are many BookStores, and when you buy a book, it will appear in your every houses bookshelf
-A few jobs you can do every now and then to earn some money (This hasn't been confirmed yet)
-There is gonna be a list that tells you how many percent you have done of the game (from 1% to 100%)
-A girlfriend. If you bring enough gifts to her, you'll get married, and get 1% more in the game. (After you get married, you MIGHT get some more sidequests. The sidequests on this one haven't been confirmed yet).

Style:
Epic

Release date:
Not sure, yet

Screenshots:
Roll down the page

Some info:
I've been doing the first village for about 5 days now. It's getting ready. I'm done with it about 50%. I still need to give a script to every sprite in houses and stuff. You know, things that makes D-Mods good.

As you can see, this is completely different from what I'm used to do. Cross your fingers for me.

Skull,
The Disembodied Badass

Wooh nice, and you're quite well on your way already!
Also, the new girlfriend feature sounds really cool! Reminds me of Fable a bit

Good luck with developing, Skull! Nice to see some new DMODs in the making. Haven't created a DMOD myself yet. Still at the tutorial stage, lurking.

It sounds very intriguing. I'm looking forward for some screenies! Go Skull!

thats my kinda dmod! i was gonna make one kinda like that but yours will be better also cuz im new. i cant wait till it comes out! now.... i think ill make a romp instead......

Dink Married... Thats a scary thought lol

Looking foreward to some more killin'!

Blame GTA San Andreas for the girlfriend thing. I just had to check out what it would seem like to transport GTA style girlfriend into Dink.

Also, screenieshots coming soon

EDIT: Aswell, go Marpro! We need one Epic from you too!

Note, that the screenshots you are about to see have nothing to do with the story. They are just to see how much I've improved with the map

Screenshots:

-Screenshot 1
-Screenshot 2
-Screenshot 3
-Screenshot 4

Screenshots that are connected to the story will be added soon.

Hope you liked them,
Skull

Oh, man!

I'm about 95% done with the first village/area, and the "STORY" folder already has 82 scripts. This tells the whole D-Mod will be huge. And I am following my favourite D-Mod author's, SabreTrout's advise, and am placing almost on every sprite some sort of a script.

And as I said before. The story based screenshots will be coming soon, when I get over my lazyness.

Sounds very good, I'll add this D-Mod on the Upcoming D-Mods list come monday, along with some other updates.

This sounds pretty cool. I was planning to make my next DMOD something like this too, but I mostly let the idea go.

I hope you can pull it off...

The first village/area is 100% done! And I only have 83 scripts. But some of the scripts may be deleted later on. I mean, there are some scripts I haven't used yet.

Nobody else is interested of my game

Nah, it's all fine. I am just about to finish mapping outside of the second area/village. Well, actually there is area AND village.

Dammit, I really should hurry up and put those sreenshots up.

It would probably be more interesting if you would show more than just mapping. I can’t blame you though; the things you can show really depend on your kind of D-Mod and your progress. I would be able to show a lot from my D-Mod for instance… Then again I prefer to stay silent about that until it’s done.

Screenshots of just mapping work better when you happen to have added new graphics... but that's just my oppinion

Erwin, what might that D-Mod be? Maybe um... DGH?

A different one. You'll see soon enough. (I hope)

NEW SCREENSHOTS:
Story Based

-Screenshot 5 Dink has arrived in his new home

-Screenshot 6 A rock has blocked the road to the Village of Mophe (your new homevillage)

-Screenshot 7 Arriving to the Town of Wuyene

-Screenshot 8 A girl sitting in the park in Town of Wuyene

-Screenshot 9 A random house that you can buy (This is in Town of Wuyene)

NEW INFO:

I've done about 25%-30% about the second village. A few quests to do, and give (almoust) every sprite a script. And I'm about 20% done with the whole game.
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Hope you liked the screenshots, and got some ideas from the info, on how far I am making the game.

The screenshots aren't bad, but I don't think the ridge tile grass works well as base grass. It doesn't blend well with other tiles, it's easy to notice in screenshot 3.

I usually use a combination of grass from the rock tile screens, and from the forest/floor tile screen as a base. The latter looks better kept than the former, alternating them can make it look like someone's taking care of the lawn in a village, while forests have wilder freely growing grass.

Scratcher, yes, I've noticed that problem. And I'm probably gonna change those tiles somewhere, when I've nearly completed the game.

Anything else to say about the screenshots?

It's 'house for sale' not 'house for sell'. That was the first thing I noticed.

In screenshot 5: Did you set the dirt to 'background' instead of 'person/creature'? It looks like the dirt is actually laying on top of the wall. I think dirt should always be background (with a few exceptions of course). Dink walking behind mud doesn't seem very realistic...

Other than that it's always hard to judge screenshots. I just love to see that you are getting better and better at making DMODs.

Thanks Metatarasal for the sell/sale thingy.

Also, I never actually got the thing what the "background" meant, so I've always used dirt and all that stuff a person/creature. But now that I know it, I'm gonna be doing it right from now on.

Background? Can't you just set the depth que to -1, so everything is on top of it?

I partly like the new screenshots. They're not bad, but I don't really find them interesting... I guess I expected too much from the town-screenies.

Background? Can't you just set the depth que to -1, so everything is on top of it?

I agree with Christiaan... Don't forget to use the "no-hit" option also.

Yeah, that's what I sometimes do. Set the "depth que" to -1. And, thanks, Marpro, but I have remembered to use the "no-hit".

And yes, just MAYBE I'm gonna still improve the map a bit.

EDIT: By the way, I've fixed the sell/sale thing. But I don't think that's really worth of making a new screenshot about.

Surely it's easier to just set it to background rather than set the depth que and the no-hit? Background = underneath everything, can't be hit, and attached scripts won't work.

Not really, background sprites can be hit, so it's the same amount of trouble. They also have a nasty tendency to disappear.

Well, it might be the same amount of trouble in DinkEdit, but not in WinDinkEdit. The only thing you need to do to make something background is to tick the 'background' box, if you want a depth que of -1 you need to type '-1' which takes slightly more effort...

Just be careful if you use mud near water, then you should use depth que -1.

Why -1? Just type in 1. However, Sparrowhawk DID have a point, even on Dinkedit, as I was wrong about backgroud sprites being hittable...

If you put minuses to the "depth que" it is almoust the same if you put it as "background". However, when you have "depth que" in minus it you have to put the "no-hit" on so it won't be hitable. But if you put the "background" on it won't be hitable.

There may not be a noticeable difference as far as normal gameplay is concerned, but background sprites and normal sprites are really quite different. Background sprites act like tiles, they're wiped out when you use fill_screen() and you can't kill them with sp_active(). I was going to follow up with deep insight as to why this is so but it just seemed really pompous because I'm not really knowledgeable about the technical aspects of Dink.

Yeah, and I'm not really knowledgeable about DinkC at all

Well whatever, I never used the background function, it seems pointless to me.

Yeah, now, please back to the topic.

I've done with the first and the second village/area 99% now. The reason I'm saying 99% is because, you never know, if you still need to do something with them or if you forgot something.

New screenshots:
Maybe coming later. Maybe not.

EDIT: Oh, and I'm about 12%-20% done with the third village/area

i have an idea, forgive me if u allready thought of it. ok, i think you should also be able to buy furniture, oh and also boats! from "dink goes boating". oh and i hope you make HEAPS of secret areas in it too. if you could add like a secret or a guest apperance by me zeddexx, that would be awsome! cuz ive never been mentioned in a dmod before! ^_^

Many authors have never been mentioned in a D-Mod. Me and RAJESH are pretty much the only ones (go play Rand's Quest for axe).

But I might think about it, since I've already mentioned SabreTrout in it.

About the boats, I might think about buying furniture, but not the boats, since there is nowhere to sail in this game. Too less water.

And what means HEAPS of secret areas?

it means make lots of secret screens and areas

I might think about buying furniture

Why? Seems so unimportant, unless you're building a Sims D-Mod.

Could you give us a hint what the story will involve?

As I said (or did I?), I probably won't add furniture.

(Requested by Marpro)
Little info what the story involves:
-Like said in my first message, Dink will find out, that his father is being held as prisoner by Goblins, in the Castle of Glamour. The same island Dink lives in now.

-There is gonna be Goblins as enemies for sure.

-Also, the is gonna be a Bandit group called The Disturbed Rats, that will be mainly same kind that Scarab Club 7 was in CC2 . You meet and fight them every now and then. Kinda like the side-baddies.

I don't know what to say much more. I don't wanna give info away, you know.

incidentally, Dink doesn't buy furniture - that's what killed his mother, remember?

I thought his mother died because of what Dink did to Quackers. I quess I was wrong. o_0

didnt dinks step mom kill her?

Dink's mother died in a fire. She didn't know how to cook.

Disturbed Rats you say? Will a certain Duck from the SC7 have a female cousin who gets involved and happens to be able to use the Mystery Island's duck spell, hinhint? Random question, would make it a good side-boss fight after all.

I thought his mother died because of what Dink did to Quackers. I quess I was wrong.

Haha, so true! xD That old lady went berserk!

The "old lady" was Ethel, in case someone forgot.

My theory is that the arson was committed by Martridge. It's way too convenient how Dink just "happened" to run into him right before the house was burnt down, then the guy goes and teaches Dink fireball. Ethel may also be involved, in fact, they may be related. She has a beard!

Also, what were the guards that harrassed a traveller doing near Stonebrook? They were probably after Martridge... And he disappeared to escape the law. It all makes sense.

Hey, someone should make a D-Mod about what Scratcher just said.

I'm making a DMOD about the theory that Milder burnt down the house. Is that close enough?

Okay, it isn't really about that. But it is what starts the story...

I've actually been thinking tha maybe Milder burned it.

But anyways, this is no offense to Zeddexx, but I will not be making you able to buy furniture in the game. I might just make that in some other style of Mod.

I might upload a video soon to YouTube showing some parts of this game.

So, then again, I am very lazy nowadays, so it might take a long time. X_X Zzzzzzz...

No. Rewrite your d-mod.

skull my freind, no offence taken. SKULL GET BACK TO WORK ON THE DMOD WERE ALL WAITING FOR IT!!

Why should I rewrite my D-Mod, Sabre. Atleast I'm not gonna do it now, since I'm about 30% done already.

PROGRESS:

The progress with the third village/area has not been slow nor fast. The third town is done about 10%. Not even all of the main quests. And this town is gonna have hell of a lot of side-quests.

NEW INFO:
Some info to keep you happy.

The Disturbed Rat's members:

-John [A blue regular man] (The leader)
-BatHat [A green wizard] (A new comer)
-Bebso [Hammer Goblin] (Joined just when TDR was made up)
-Alex [Brown/Purpe knight] (Came shortly after Bebso)

I'm posting pretty much stuff to keep you excited and happy, so you'd play my D-Mod.

Also, I'm about 20%-25% done with the 3rd village.

Skull

Don't worry, Skull. It was metatarasal I was telling to rewrite his d-mod - So it would fit in with the "Martridge burned down Dink's house" theory.

And he'd better do it. Or else.

Christiaan, wasn't you supposed to put this to the upcoming list?

PROGRESS:

I am now done with all the main quests with the 3rd village. So I am about 30% done with it.

skull....hurry up and finish the dmod before i burst with exitment!! oops.... to late... ughh... what a mess....

Zeddexx, I know you're excited but I am nowhere near of completing this game. I am only about 35% done with the whole D-Mod.

But you must wait. The longer it takes to finish, the more it's like to be better quality.

I can ofcourse let people vote if they want me to release a demo. So, what do you think?

NEW SCREENSHOTS:

-Screenshot 10 Searching for mayor Jack's missing paper

-Screenshot 11 Uh oh! She was a worker in mayor Jack's office

-Screenshot 12 Second time you run into The Disturbed Rats

-Screenshot 13 Chasing The Disturbed Rats

The chase part must be one of the if not THE best scripting part I've ever done.

If it's only 30% done, why not split it into a 3-part epic series?
If my idea is stupid, D E M O ! ! !

Don't release a demo. It usually means the full version will never be released.

Yeah, I would have hated to release a demo, since then I would had to have move my hand. So, no demo.

And what is the reason to split it to 3 parts. It's more sensitive to do a large Epic, than split it to 3 Romps.

He meant 3 epics you know.

But didn't he say, that three quest sized parts?

Look again

Lol, you changed it

skull, who will beta test it?

I'm not sure yet. You know, I'll decide that when the actual game is finished.

PROGRESS:

The 3rd village is now 99% complete. Moving to the other village after a little bit of testing.

zedexx, does any beta-tester come to your mind exxcept me?????

Well, I could think lots more betatesters for my D-Mod than just you, Godley.

And no-one noticed the change in subject title as the replies came in.

I lol'd

EDIT: Aww, but I was hopeful of that lol. Oh well.

ExDeathevn, please don't change the subject singe someone might really think there will come three parts.

see modified post.

ARGH!!

NEW SCREENSHOT:

Hopefully this will give you an idea of how big the map is.

-MAP

NOTE: The map is not finished yet, and it will be improved. (The grass tiles will be improved and details added here and there)

EDIT: And no, I haven't even started making some of the areas there will still be.

NEW INFO:

I'm about 50%-55% done with the whole game.

Wow, that's huge! And it's so tidy and organized... My maps are always pure chaos.

But, you've made 15-20% progress in just two days? I'm having a hard time believing that. That would mean you can finish the D-Mod this week!

Well, I always say, that every area are 99% complete. Probably the whole game when finished will be 99% only complete, since there are always stuff that you forget and such. So, there might be lots of bugs, but hey, that's why betatesting is for.

And I just happened to get much done in one day because when I start making it, then I REALLY start making it. But when I feel lazy I barely get 2% completed in 2 days.

SOME RANDOM AND USELESS STUFF:

-Me messing around with DinkC (making a script for the enter of mines-area)

-Messing around with WinDinkEdit Plus (The enter of the mine-area in the map)

EDIT: Script is not ofcourse finished yet and ingore the "zealsoft" thing in the up-right corner of the first pic.

Whoo! I broke 300 scripts! I currently have 301 scripts!! Wohoo!

Give me some cheers!

Wow Skull, over 300 scripts looks you really made a lot of progress. When did you start creating this D-Mod?

Cheers!

About few days (maybe 4. Can't remember) before the first post. Roll up the page and see.

So I've worked on it for about 20 days soon. Wow! That sounds really short time for what I already have accomplished.

EDIT: And me being stupid and not noticing, thank you for the cheers.

So in 3 weeks you're able to make half an epic? How much free time do you have oh disembodied one??

Myself, I have loads of free time, but I get a sore wrist from all the graphics creating I'm doing the last couple of weeks.

300 scripts... I'm very very impressed.

Just to put that into perspective: The scourger had just 299 scripts in the betaversion. (The final version has 332 though.) And I think the scourger is a small epic already...

Paninga has a 190 scripts so far, and that has been in development for at least two years!

EDIT: The original game has 381 scripts. So in amount of scripts you're really not far of from epic territory...

GO SKULL GO GO!! GOOOOOO SKUUULL!! im glad you changed your avatar! noobs thought you were a girl!

Initiation had just over 400 scripts, Pilgrim's Quest had around 650 scripts, and CC2 was just shy of 800.

Anything over 200 is pretty impressive in my eyes. Good stuff, Skull!

Yeah, good job! You can never have enough scripts.

As long as they aren't buggy scripts, that is...

Congrats and cheers Skull, I'll drink to the successful release of the D-mod when it comes out!

Also, tbh if I even managed to write up one script it would be an achievment

It sounds really impressive indeed.

Cheers!

And what can I say, probably over half of the scripts so far have gone to different sprites in the houses. For example, bookshelfs and tables and beds and such. But as I said I'm only 55% done with the game so it is probably gonna have another 300 scripts.

And wow. I really made you people excited

DO I SEE 6 LURKERS AT THE SAME TIME!?

PROGRESS:
I'm done with the main quests in the fourth sector. I am moving to do the sidequests and all that stuff. Then I'll be moving to complete the 5th area. The 5th area is gonna be the final "outside area".

Any updates?

Well, I'm 99% done with the 4th sector. Hooray!

Also, I'm about ONLY 10% done with the 5th one.

But the progress is really slow. I feel really bored and lazy. I mainly sit in my room next to the computer and do nothing.
But you can count on that this D-Mod will be finished. No matter how long it takes.

I'm updating this, because I'm getting hell of a lot of questions about it.

It has been a few weeks, and I haven't made much progress at all. I'm about 15% done with the 5th sector. But happy news, I've made a little progress today, so on this week, I might get back working on it with 100% attitude.

This D-Mod might get ready this summer, or somewhere this fall.

Now back to scripting and listening "The Blind Guardian".

Ok, everybody's been wining me about updating this, but when I post some updates nobody seems interested at all. If you want me to update this development thread from now on, atleast comment on my progress a little bit.

There is progress in the development thread!?

Keep up the good work!!

Comments + 1

100th post!

Keep it up Skull. Comments galore!

Well 101 is good.

Gongratulations Quiztis. I promised in the chat that the one who posted 100th comment will get an early beta of HH. (Rob has one already but for other reasons).

Now the question, Quiztis. Do you want the beta or are you willing to give it to someone else?

Gonrats,
Skull

Note that this doesn't mean you have to beta-test it. You can just enjoy it.

Yay! I'll be glad to help you with beta testing/enjoy it Skull.

Ok, I will send it to you.

Thank'ee. Also I had no idea that the 100th would get something.

Oh, an early beta is not precisely a gift.
Unless you want to give it to someone you don't like.

Personally I agree. But not everybody thinks the same I suppose...

Nice Skull that you've come so far you're searching for beta-testers! If you need another tester just send me a PM.

How's this coming, Skull?

Slowly but surely.

Did you enjoy the betaversion, Quiztis?

when are you releasing it?

I enjoy it. Playing now and then.

when are you releasing it?

I was trying to get it released this fall, but I think it's going to go somewhere near christmas.

Then THAT would be the ultimate x-mas present!!

skull this dmod will be important in the lives of dinkers evreywhere! make sure you finish it! remember ive dubbed you 'ancient of good death' in my dmod!!

Important in the lifes of Dinkers everywhere?

Wow, thanks for feeling that way. But probably not "everywhere" lol.

NEWS ON THE MOD:
No progress made... sadly

"No progress made... sadly"
start making more progress immediately, or I will have to resort to torturing you with a nub-cake

very looooong thread!

Kinda obvious, that... lol

Hey, i would be happy to beta test this mod pm me if you want another tester

I actually made little progress today. I made a few new screens. Fixed dozens of mapping errors and bugs in scripts (thanks Robj). I also changed a few things and made a glowing bonca, that appears randomly on some screens.

The game is completed about 70%.

I have currently 410 scripts. W000h! *Goes crazy*

i have to say it skull...
this is getting me hot...
i am SO turned on right now...

Please zeddexx, just find a pineapple and leave it...

Also 410 scripts is... A lot. We haven't had a new epic since eh... Cloud Castle 2/Initiation in 2004. Really looking forward to this one.

^+1. NOOB.

"Fixed dozens of mapping errors and bugs in scripts (thanks Robj)"

Glad I could help and I'm looking forward to the finished version.

I just hope Wesley isn't able to finish FB 2.5 this year. If he doesn't, I have a good chance to win the D-Mod of the year -award. But if he manages to do that, well... my D-Mod's not gonna have a change.

Okay, so from now on I will be posting news every day, even if I haven't made any progress. It's just so you'll keep interested.

NEWS:

I made a secret. I added some more monsters. I also made a bow to buy.

I also made a couple of scripts to sprites in screens, such as furniture and all that kind of stuff.

Currently have 422 scripts. Some of the current scripts may get deleted in future, though.

maybe you should start a new thread, this one is like.. WOW!

I don't see the point in doing that, at all.

are you in a bad mood or somthing? oh was it somthing i did?

Skull is right zeddexx, there's no point in creating a new thread for all this.
This one is the development thread for the Dmod, so all news on its progress and discussion regarding it's development stays in here.

Maybe when the Dmod is released, it'll have other threads, such as newbs coming in asking "Where does me find that?" or saying "We needz patch 4 hardness err0r!" etc.

aw man, i need more practice at being a dinker... sorry skull, heh heh.

No problem, Zeddex. I just simply didn't see the point of creating a new thread for this.

Oops. I forgot to post an update yesterday. I was so deep down in making my Mod, that I simply forgot.
Well, there wasn't much to update really.

Oops. I forgot to post an update yesterday. I was so deep down in making my Mod, that I simply forgot.?

Best excuse ever.

random qoute for sure.

Well, as you may have noticed, I have "kind" of forgot to post here.

Anyways, I have been doing the inside of the castle for about 4 days now and it is about 1/10 completed now. After the whole game's finished, I'll betatest it a few times myself, maybe have to fix some stuff, choose a few other betatesters, again maybe fix some found bugs, and then it'll be releaseeeeeeeeeeed!!

Number of scripts currently:
454

YAAAAAAAAAAY!!

Just tell me if you need a beta tester.

Any updates on this?

I can beta test the full version when it's done, if you need another beta tester.

Yea Rob, I was thinking to take you as betatester again. You did a great job on the early beta. Plus, you know how to get the other parts fast, though there are couple of changes.

Also, not done much for the D-Mod past week. I really should get back to it soon.

Any updates?

Minor. Details added to old screens and also created and finished a couple of new screens.

I don't know if it's just me, but this sounds a lot like the GTA games, without the prostitutes and car hijacking...

It sounds like GTA, but when you play the game it feels nothing like it.

While listening to Rob's "Site for me", I feel like posting an update.

UPDATES:

Created more screens. A few new "percent +".

I currently have 480 scripts.

When finished, this D-Mod probably is gonna have something like 650 scripts in total.

just remember, im vouching for ya all the way skull!!

Cool, good to hear you still making progress.

Submit some nifty screenshots!

NEW SCREENSHOTS (requested by Marpro):

The map of the whole thing (atm)

Looking good, and well organized, too.

Could use a little more variation though. How about some rivers, some cliffs, some different tiles?

This is not dead. Just put on hold. I have far more important things to do for now (not TOO important, but still ).

I'm gonna try make some more LP's and stuff, though.

HH will probably be finished sometime next june maybe.

Working on this shìt again. About 80% completed now.

When are you planning to be finished? Sounds really nice that you're 80% done, it seems you're close.

HH will probably be finished sometime next june maybe.

Yes, I read that line.

(Before) this summer probably... maybe... perhaps.

Could be sooner or later, but I don't wanna promise anything seeing as that will only create disapointment as we saw with my last promise. Before this summer is only presuming and what I'm aiming for.

EDIT: It also takes more time (and less interest obviously), because I'm trying to make the last bosses in the game a little cooler, and that takes some neater scripting. The bosses at the game so far have been very basic Dink stuff; hit, retreat, hit, retreat...

I'm glad you look at it that way Skull. I've spent over 3 months scripting the boss fight in Day of the Carcass just because I couldn't accept a hit and run battle. I'm looking forward to this

HISTORICAL HERO IS NOW OFFICIALLY 85% COMPLETE!!

Discuss lol.

Most DMODs that are announced and not released were "at least 90% complete". Unless I know that this figure is objectively measured somehow I don't know how to interpret these percentages.

But 85% sure beats 80%.

Sooner play than discuss...
FINISH - NOW ... and be quick about it! hehe

yeah! i just KNOW this mods gonna be awesome!

Meta, correct me if I'm wrong but noticing some of your recent comments in the chat about my D-Mod, does this mean you are not waiting for it anymore? And if you're not, why is this?

EDIT: And 85% is just ABOUT!! I'm moving on with 5% at a time.

I never tried to say that I think this will be a bad or even mediocre DMOD. I simply do not know how this will turn out. And that is what I'm trying to say, though obviously I'm happy to see progress. As far as I see it this will be the first epic DMOD in 4-5 years which is good.

But as I haven't played even one bit of this DMOD I just don't know how this will turn out. We'll see, I hope for the best.

And to answer your question: I'm not really waiting for any DMODs nowadays. Actually the same is true for me with movies, books or other things, I just see them as they come. That's the best time to judge them anyway.

UPDATE

Main Quest 100% completed. I'm onto the unfinished/bug stuff now.

"I'll-be-finished-to-summer-my-ass"

Good progress Skully!

An epic? finished? That's awesome.

Finished? As I understood there are quite a few side quests as well. So Skull probably still has to tie up quite some loose ends. But still, nice to hear it's going strong.

About 90% completed so still 10% to go indeed.

Currently I have 552 scripts.

Have been doing some test drives all day. And remember, it is on you that I haven't washed in a week and had to pee in a small cup and eat chips and coke, because you wanted this to be finished quickly. You sick people without a moral!!

Everything seems quite alright so far. I've been playing around 2 and a half hours and am completed around 3/5 of the game, and I KNOW what to do. Doesn't that qualafie as an epic D-Mod?

95% completed.

Once again I want you to discuss about this legendary moment.

Alles gut, Skull!

You forgot "tolerable".

you also left out "off the friggan chizzam"

you also left out "off the friggan chizzam"

No, be quiet now.

*whine* i want off the friggan chazzam dammit! waaaaahhhh!!

100% COMPLETED

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Oh crap! There is a little problem with betatesting. The file is too large for me to send to anyone.

So therefor, Historical Hero will be now uploaded, and I guess people who play it just have to be the betatesters and send any info about bugs they can find. Because there probably are quite many minor bugs.

I am sorry for the betatesters. I hope you understand.

No, don't upload! Use file-sharing services such as Rapidshare. Then you email them that link. Don't upload a non-betatested, please.

Or you could split it into several files for the testers to put together, graphics and scripts seperately or something.

Errr... too latr guys. I already uploaded it lol.

But when I tried Rabidshare it informed of a completely different error.
Well, I played it through a few times and there weren't any bugs that made it completely unplayable. If somebody find bugs, I obviously release a new, better version.

No problem, we'll just have to nag about all the (even tiniest) bugs that *somehow got through the betatesting phrase*, in our upcoming reviews...

Just kidding, downloading at the moment! Good job getting it done, I applaud you Skull

Son.. I am disapoint.

Dude, I have a flu and I'm tired. It shouldn't have too many bugs, so I just decided to upload it. The case would be different, if I was pretty sure there are probably some GIANT BUGS.

Sorry to say Skull, but some of your DMODs had a lot of annoying bugs in the past. So I'll have to agree with Glenn on this one, I'll wait playing this one untill people have done some bug hunting.

This is ridiculous. How else could I possibly find out about any bugs if people don*t play it? There might be some small bugs yes, but they are nothing serious, and can probably be fixed easily.

Heh, that's where testers are for, not the general public.

Releasing files too early is asking for low marks. Just look at the file skorn released recently. That would surely have gotten better marks if it wasn't a pre-demo just intended to get some feedback. I hope to enjoy this file, not to be annoyed and angry at its bugs. Maybe you're right and this thing indeed only contains minor bugs, but it's really hard to know that without testing. I wouldn't bet on it.

There was one annoying bug, but I fixed it and sent a new version. And obviously I would have wanted for betatesters to test it, but the file was just too big.

But I'm just frustrated because all the hard work I did with this D-Mod, and then people won't even bother to play it, y'know.

That's part and parcel of development, Skull. I know it's frustrating, but even the most experienced d-mod authors need to get their files tested... particularly with an epic!

Hopefully there aren't too many.

I do understand what all you people mean, but it's really annoying. I mean, even Pilgrim's Quest would have been able to be sent, but Historical Hero was just too big. Duh...

I ALREADY SAID that you could have uploaded it to 4shared.com.
200MB filesize limit, you'd have been fine to put it on there!! *sigh*

Instead of even looking at other options though, you jumped the gun to releasing it.
ED: In fact, you had already released it before giving me enough time to wake up and give you a suggestion.

Yes, I uploaded it three hours before you told me that I'm a n00b. Then you waited another hour to actually tell me about 4shared.com. And don't try to say I didn't check out all options I knew, because I did.

Again; I appologised for that. I had Literally just woken up and had course to go to. Which turned out to be fail anyway. Only three other people attended, and even the tutor was away; He'd broken a tooth on a piece of steak he apparently cooked for himself XD
And its a dang cooking course! Talk about unreliable educators.

Ouch. I'm currently stuck at the part where you have to find the diamond, and I have to say... there are lots of minor glitches all over the game. Stuff like invisible hardboxes where there shouldn't be any, monster balance out of whack, and too much walking around unimportant maps (thank god for those herb boots tho)

Not to mention having to deal with all those unhelpful NPC's... (for example: "kill those bandits!" "where should I look for them?" "I don't know, just find them!") Half of time playing this game I've had no clue what I'm supposed to be doing.

No offense Skull, and it's not all THAT bad, but I hope it gets better soon

Invisible hardboxes? Uh... thought there weren't any, but I guess I forgot some of them, then.

Also, not all the monsters are meant to be fought immediately after you meet them. Try to move further on in the game, and get some level ups and buy some better weapons.

There are some hardness errors in the mayors house too, first village.

And I can't find those wizards in the maze! I've been looking around for hours! O.o

There are plenty of hardness bugs in this release. Though I actually haven't found a way to get out of the first village and its maze without exploiting the one which allows you to walk on the mountains (and then you'll see that they look somewhat messed up). I got straight from the first village to the cutscene with two guards that closed the pub and then finally was able to get into other areas.

s3-bluelady.c is buggy, by the way, if you choose "Leave" option, you are frozen. That's because the script never checks this option, it has a number of 7, but the script checks option 6 twice instead.

Yeah, I guess I shouldn't have downloaded this now...

I think I'll give up for now and download a later version where it's more clear what you are suppose to do.

First, why do you cheat?
Second, yes, they do look a little messed up, but that's as good as I could make them.

Never noticed the s3-bluelady.c bug. I'll fix it sometime later on, until then, don't choose the "leave" option.

And as I said, I haven't remembered to take out all the hardness bugs.

But seriously, you all act like you have never seen bugs in D-Mods before. Just inform me of them, and I'll send updates as soon as I can. But what I am not gonna do, is send an update every day only because of new hardness errors found. I'm gonna send new versions only after I've atleast received information about dozen or so bugs.

But seriously, you all act like you have never seen bugs in D-Mods before. Just inform me of them, and I'll send updates as soon as I can. But what I am not gonna do, is send an update every day only because of new hardness errors found. I'm gonna send new versions only after I've atleast received information about dozen or so bugs.

That Sir, is why you have testers. You got too excited to show it to everyone that you skipped that essential part...

Dude, I've said hundreds of times that I tried to upload it to every place I knew and tried to send it in e-mail to my testers, but the file was just too big. Of course, I would have had it tested if it would have worked.

EDIT: Also, I think you're just picking on my D-Mod's bugs easier than anyone else's because my previous files have not been "so successful". Now, go play Prophecy of the Ancients, it has hell of a lot of bugs, but it still has epicly good scores, and nobody ever complained about them.

Quite.

Guys, I'd treat this as an "open beta". Find bugs, compile a list, and send the list on to Skull. He can then get the d-mod into a "finished" state.

Lesson learnt, Skull. There's always a ton of bugs. I'd know!

iplaydink - the exit (stairs going down) is there, just look for it a little harder.

You're right Skull, so far I haven't noticed anything but minor problems with the game - no reason to upload a new version everytime someone notices one little annoyance to fix...

Why are you getting so upset?

Anyway, I'm pretty sure that you can mail large files through gmail.

I get upset because I worked on this D-Mod hard and nobody sees nothing but the bad sides of it.

Also, gmail is the exact one I tried to e-mail it from, but it said that the maximum size of the file was 35MB, and so did all the other sites I tried to upload it to.

I get upset because I worked on this D-Mod hard and nobody sees nothing but the bad sides of it.

I know the feeling Skull. Just look on the bright side of it. If you fix everything people are complaining about, things only get better and eventually there's only awesomeness left. Also people just seem to prefer complaining to complimenting. I haven't played through much of your D-Mod yet (Playing Three Amulets first) but I must say I'm impressed with how fast you managed to complete this.

Thanks, Erwin.

But how am I supposed to manage to fix all the bugs if people won't even bother to check it out, left alone to play it.

**SPOILERS** (maybe)

Are you suppose to be able to walk on the forest and go around the river that way? I don't want to walk around there if it isn't meant as I might mess up some variables

You mean walk beetwen the forest or cliffs, or walk on top of the forest. If you meant the first one, yes you are, if you meant the second one, certainly not.

Find some testers I guess. People that play it now will probably do so for fun and occasionally report a bug that they encountered. If you have people specifically looking for bugs you'll have better results. I’ll do some bug hunting myself when I can find the time (two good D-Mods on the same day, don‘t expect people to be quick with the feedback ).

I could also check for bugs, do you want me to PM them to you or post here?

And you can walk on-top of the actual forest tiles as the sprites that are the borders have wrong hardboxes, you should extend it or stamp hardness squares along the edges.

Yes, PM them to me.

Also, that is a one of the hardness bugs I think. I'm gonna check it out.

WTF, the game is completely messed up. After I copied it from my desktop to my laptop, even probably around 200 screens have disappeared.

download it from DN?

Hold on, I'm downloading it. If it still has not all the screens by then, looks like I'll have to post yet another update. *sigh* -__-

I could go through the dialogue and fix some grammar and spelling issues for you, if you like?... I did the same with iplaydink's Three Amulets. It's the least I could do, right, as my part of betatesting this dmod?

Don't let all the complaints drag you down, it's actually been very refreshing and fun to play another huge dmod like this since... some five years or something?

Now I got it. The game somehow has taken the map entirely from like... 4 months back. Very strange, must have something to do with the fact that I copied it with my memory stick. That's why there are so many hardness bugs too. Dammit, should have seen something like this showing up.

Ow, I feel sorry for you skull
Is it still possible to finish the game?

No, not even close. I am uploading version 1.02. If you still have the patience, download it. This new version should take care of most of the hardness bugs. *Sigh* I need tea.

I could go through the dialogue and fix some grammar and spelling issues for you, if you like?... I did the same with iplaydink's Three Amulets.

I noticed that Three Amulets still has some spelling/grammar errors. Perhaps someone else should check it? Also isn't the goed fairy supposed to be the good fairy?

Her Name is Goed the fairy

I'm not that bad spelling

Really? I thought her name was Goed the Fairy We need iplaydink to verify this...

EDIT: Beat me to it.

Uploaded new version. Now all we need is staff to approve. What a chaotic release this has been.

Is everything solved in this release? Didn't you say you lost hundreds of screens?

Yes.

Instead of copying the Historical Hero's D-Mod folder and packaging it on my laptop, I packaged it on my desktop, and then moved the package to my laptop.

Why must I copy it to my laptop? Because my internet connection won't work on my desktop.

Too bad the release didn't go as planned, Skull. Your DMOD as it is now is just like when my HARD.dat gets messed up. Looking forward to the update.

Sounds like that happens often, Quiztis

The new version is now up. Download and enjoy this version that you can actually finish. Now, what bugs need owning next...

Do you suppose any old saves work with this?

If they don't, I wouldn't be surprised, but I suppose they should.

Her Name is Goed the fairy

Oops! I misread

finally an epic dmod good job
need a little help found the following problems
there is still lots of hardness blocks specially the guy's house who gives the quest to find the missing page,the maze is long and empty with just few trees,horrible midi during moving around the maze and after an hour or so found the stairs and got 50 xp now cant seem to find anything in the maze just a few pillbugs its empty?

Lod420, be sure to download the new version (1.02.) because it has a lot less hardness errors, and you can't actually finish the D-Mod in older versions due to a stupid mistake by my computer.

Well, I can help you with some of those problems; if you've found the stairs that lead you to a small cave, you are in the right place, but you just have to look harder.

hey thanks for the quick reply i am playing with 1.02 version there was lots of hardness in the mayors house as well,well ok will check up and see if there is anything else there except for the fragile rock cant seem to do anything with it sorry for disclosing the spoilers

There might be some hardness errors still in the first village, but I fixed that stuff in the next towns.

Also, the music in the maze is "kind" of supposed to be annoying, cause I know people will try to search the right way for quite some time, so the music is supposed to piss them off. But I also think the music fits the maze extremely well.

LOL well my hand hurts pressing alt+m darn still going around in circles

Note, I think you can just press n to stop MIDIs.

Lots of posts!

Hope the DMod is in an enjoyable state.

Hey skull I am hoping that when they get it done cause I know they will that this will become one of the d-mods on my iPad man look forward to it

ok just why perform thread necromancy? well i've seen cases where the thread was older but still.