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i reasently got the new Ms-Blast virus, it's a load off crap! Why must little brats come and destroy my pc?! Do you guys now of any way to delete it?
I am going nuts here! My computer goes like my grandmas car!!

i also had the ms-blast i a file but it didnt get active if ye know what i mean.because i didnt download the hole file and thank god for that! but is there a new version of ms-blast?

Check symnatecs website as they are the world leaders for dealing with such virus threats and they have never let me do so far, there will be a removal tool on that site.

oh yea you mean the blast-fix right?

This is the new version, i heard that no virus progr. (yet) can cope with this?

ALSO i just remebered something that may just prove very usefull for you: to abort a shutdown goto start then run then type shutdown -a and it will abort the shut down.

The computer is not shutting down, but thanks for the tip anyway
It just got my computer to go slow, and it is shutting down progr.

You're just mad that the "little brats [came] and [destroyed your] pc" because you actually caught the virus. If the virus doesn't depend on the user running a program or tricking them, and, instead, exploits a vulnerability, more power to the writers.

What??

Anybody who makes a virus is just an arse, plain and simple.

i was lucky that id idnt download that file sp i couldt get msblast. i downloaded it from Kazaa for a couple of day ago

Ohh, I see Sabre. You had a virus too? It all boils down to PEBCAK. If the virus' intent is to trick the user, then the user hasn't sufficient knowledge about security. If the virus' intent is to exploit a Windows vulnerability, then the user hasn't sufficient knowledge to stop using Windows.

Virus writers are a benefit to this world. Think about it: they keep AV companies in business, and they also point out the shootload of bugs Microsoft products have.

So the thing you are saying is that virus makers is a good thing?
I'll try to remember this the next time you get a virus

make sure you turn of system restore when you run the tool
and get down on your knees and be thankful you didnt get a worm trojan called xabot32
it mutates and you can stop the process, delete the registry files it creates and it puts them all back immediatly even if you run in safe mode and you end up having to reinstall your OS..
I wrote to Symantec and complained their removal instructions didnt work it had mutated...
it is also a clever worm it shuts your browswer everytime you try to search for a virus, worm, or use a online scan... even through search engines!! It also disables your antivirus software prevents you downloading new ones, doesnt let you run hijack this or spy bot and if someone helpful emails you it wont let you reply to them and if as a last resort you post in forums and someone replies to your post when you try to view it shuts it...
ok that was a rant... sorry
although i have much respect for who ever created it i have never seen anything like it but which they hadn't given it to me

writing viruses is fabulous and pointless and people who send them to others are idiots. even if someone isn't a nerd that doesn't mean he deserves to get a virus.

but sometimes the viruses also send emails by them selves!

arrghh viruses are so patethic!

the xabot one did that too.....
FROM MY EMAIL

Viruses are part of an evolution.
We will never know what is happening, and who is realy making viruses, but notice, the av companies depend on the fact that there are new ones out. Viruses are (almost) never written to attack anti-virus programs (even though that would make the most sence).
Rivals to Microsoft only get to critisize MS when new security flaw is found (there is no money in making viruses that attack Linux). There are av programs that don't match to definitions, but just look for virus behaviour, no updates needed. Pity those avps are'nt offered with new computers.
I will only worry about viruses when they become AI (NOT that far away!).

"writing viruses is fabulous"

Wow, now I no longer have to question your insolence...

merlin, not everyone spends 12+ hours a day in front of the computer and spends hours upon hours doing research about the different virii and how to stop them. please, shrink your ego. and, about not using windows...despite how buggy windows is, it's definitely user friendly. like phoenix said, no one wants to hack a file called fstab to be able to view the contents of their hard drive on another operating system.

Virus writers are a benefit to this world. Think about it: they keep AV companies in business, and they also point out the shootload of bugs Microsoft products have.

Nuclear warheads are a benefit to this world. Think about it: they keep terrorists in business, and they also point out the shootload of bugs world economies have.

Also, you would have to assume that most Dinkers are at least a little bit knowledgable when it comes to computers, and more specifically, what must be done when a virus has got a hold of your beloved piece of kit.

But what about those who DON'T spend day after day rattling away on their keyboard? Is it right that people write programs specifically to fudge them over? They may not have a clue about what to do.

Is that fair, Merlin? DOES THAT SOUND FAIR TO YOU!?!?!

fstab doesn't show the contents of the hard drive. fstab keeps a list on how to mount various partitions in case the user needs them. And mtab keeps a list of the currently mounted partitions, but that's still different.

Oh, and you're right about not everyone spending hours upon hours doing research about the different virii and how to stop them; I don't.

And a question: How can a world economy have a bug?

How can a world economy have a bug?

indeed, i'd say it is a bug.

it might not be fair but it also keeps lots of computer repair guys in business

you have a computer its one of the cons that comes with it you have to expect you might get a virus

if you take a walk you to accept that you might get run over by a bus..

ha ha sorry thats silly but still we can't change anything

OMG an exploded thread about PC use!

As much as viruses are lame I think MS is evil so there! Now I hope Bill Gates hasnt already sent his elite team of assassins to kill me for saying that.

Why hasnt anyone made a virus to extort funds or steal data instead of locking up computers? Certain groups could benefit from that and no one would no if their computers still operated fine...

Just a thought...

(sows Paranoia),
The Vault Dweller

Um... they do.

How do you think that spam get's relayed? Pwn'd boxes.

How do you think DDOS attacks are carried out? Pwn'd boxes.

And how do you pwn a box? Trojans, worms and virii.

if you take a walk you to accept that you might get run over by a bus..

But generally speaking the bus driver wasn't created for the sole purpose of running people over.
Unless they had some really messed up parents, that is.

Well, it could be argued that all sources of entropy are benificial in that various sectors of the economy are dependent on those who makie their profession stopping them. Without such fources of destruction and decay, why would people nees to fix the computers, take out the garbage, fight crime, ect. Without death, how would the earths resources be recycled? And without such destructive fources, what would we have to base our standards on? Such thing are niether good or bad, but necissary. They must balance each other out, or both be destroyed. If the rate of entropy exeeded the ate of repair, it would be all over. I f computers broke faster than they could be built or repaired, there would be none left, nd entropy, and the opposite force would both vanish. We need these opposed forces to hold society together. Like good and evil hold our moral code and religions together. What would good be with out evil to oppose it. Good is defined by evil, and vice versa, and niether can exist without the other. Take christianity for example: Jesus would have no signifigance in a world where there were no sins to die for. If the world was sinless, would be no great good to oppose it.

Jesus sucks *Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!*

EDIT: Seriously, I don't see how because of Jesus all that believe in him will go to heaven. Yes, he was crucified, (I wonder if I spelled that right) but there's nothing too special in that. It was done to thousands of other people and Jesus suffered no more than many others. So how could his death possibly grant us a pass to heaven? I don't get it.
And according to the bible anyway, only jews can go to heaven...

lol.

In fact, it is rumoured Jesus was poisoned so he would die quicker whilst on the cross, and therefore suffered less than most people how got nailed to bits of wood.

EDIT: Seriously, I don't see how because of Jesus all that believe in him will go to heaven. Yes, he was crucified, (I wonder if I spelled that right) but there's nothing too special in that. It was done to thousands of other people and Jesus suffered no more than many others. So how could his death possibly grant us a pass to heaven? I don't get it.

Jesus was god's son, that's how.He didn't have to allow it but he did. ==> acording to bible

whatever, I've read the bible and now I laugh at christianity even more often than I used to... *MWAHAHAHA*... No offence to anyone, but christianity is just not "my thing"

Amen Brother! I've been trying to convert a chick to atheism, and I've actually got it to the point where she admits there is no logical reason that you should believe in christianity. She still believes; however, since she needs something to make life "meaningful". I'll keep pestering her little by little and hopefully she'll crack and realize the ridiculousness of it all.

Tis equally as ridiculous to be an atheist as it is to believe in a supreme being.

Not that I'm religious in any way, shape or form (though officially I'm a Jedi... which is nice).

Bless the census.

what's ridiculous about Christianity? the things you've heard from other people? i'm not the most religious person, but hear me when i say that my battle is against man, not against God. the belief in creation by a supernatural power (being God) makes just as much or even more sense than any other "theory" out there. and the girl, bless her heart, probably doesn't like the idea of believing in "nothing." even if you weren't a Christian, even if you think the idea of a higher power is just totally nonsense, the standards and morals presented by Christianity are those that have the capability of making life perfect if followed. "what's so special about Jesus dying on the cross?" he CHOSE to die for our sins. at any given time, he had the capability to stop himself from being put in that position. and, as even further proof that he wasn't just any other guy, he rose from the dead on the third day. sorry to anger anyone, but i just felt the need to clear things up.

Christianity seems absurd to me, but I hate it when people feel the need to bash anyone's beliefs or convert anyone. Isn't that one of the key reasons many of us are dissatisfied with Christianity anyway? (No offense to those who believe, but many members of your faith "spread the word" by asinine methods.)

Though I would prefer for my current female partner to be an atheist, she is not, but understands why I feel the way I do. Though I wouldn't object to a slow and steady conversion for her, the current situation suffices for me.

Just tossing in my nonsensical two cents.

Edit: I've removed what was originally in this space, but I do have a question, scratcher. Why would you say "no offense" to someone after attacking their beliefs? How does that make you look any better?

I thought about that too, but chose not to edit my post... I have nothing against anyone who believes in christianity, though I'm willing to argue with them about it. It's only good to guestion each other's religion every now and then.

Um, well, i didn't mean for my post to be about religion, it was just a random rant at one o'clock about how all thing destructive being necisary and bring about equal creative forces. I just used a major religion (the one I'm most familiar with) as an example. I wasn't trting to bring about a religios debate or what not. On a side note, my room mate from AU was a buhdist/christian. He borrows his beliefs from both religions. I also learned alot of interesting thingsabout Budhism.

This topic: Another testament to how how far off topic a dink network thread can go.

I prefer corn myself.

If Jesus ever came back, he would surely release an anti-virus program.

And it would be good!

I was just asking someone to think about their beliefs. She tried to convince me to be a good christian as well, but this became a sort of problem for her as I know the Bible better than she does. You can believe what you want, but believing in supernatural forces, even though they have a possibility of being correct, is like flipping open a phonebook, putting your finger on a name, and guessing that is your biological father if you have doubt that you and your father are related.

- I don't go do to door telling people the joys of atheism, either. This was the only time I ever even tried (I used to be a christian myself).

Who would have thought this would have turned into a religious discussion. The thing is everything relates to philosophy which is religious in origin.

Believe it or not thought I study evolution as part of my education I do believe in God. There are just some things to bizarre and unique in the world for them not to be made by someone's playful imagination.

Maybe I just want to know that someone cares about me.

Regardless, LOOK WHAT YOU DID TO REDINK1! Corn?! Youve all driven him insane!

...and while were on the topic of both computer viruses and God, why not try to argue that we all live in the Matrix?

Whoa...,
The Vault Dweller

Christianity is a fine religion, for the most part. I am a former christian, and would very much like to belive in the religion, but there are some many things that i disagree with. In fact, a whole lot of the old testament is completely absurd. For example:

Leviticus instructing how to sacrafice animals and make burnt offerings to please god and absolve sin.

Contadictions of wether or not one can be punished for another's sins

Masogenism and homophobia through out throughout.

Ect, ect, ect.

I am not an atheist. I'm still trying to find out whether there is a god or not and if there is what kind of a god.... in bible they talk of most things symbolically, so it's a very hard book to understand. It's not thoroughly silly, just for the most part.

believing in supernatural forces, even though they have a possibility of being correct, is like flipping open a phonebook, putting your finger on a name, and guessing that is your biological father if you have doubt that you and your father are related

Pfft, that is the worst analogy I have ever heard!
So, what? Religion comes to down to doubting one thing(who your father is)... and... ummm... replacing it with another (obviously less likely, and completely random) alternative?

I don't think ANY belief can fall under the shadow of that explanation, as all true belief has some justification. This may not be a good justification, but it is present nonetheless.

drake, the old testament laws no longer apply to current forms of christianity. it directly states that in the new testament, and the only reason the old testament is even there today is for historical purposes.

the only reason the old testament is even there today is for historical purposes.

Is that so? That's kinda funny since the new testament is something like 1/4 of the size of the old testament and for the most part tells about Jesus. If the old testament is completely useless then there's not too much to believe in in christianity...

True, but similar things can be found in the new testament, minus some some of the animal sacrafice. I'm not saying that christianity is a bad religion, it just has a few things that I find wrong with it. I'm not an Atheist, and i don't have all that much problem with christinity. Its like Windows. Fine for the most part, but has a few major flaws that some choose to deal with, and others don't. Of course, every other religion is just the same. I believe in some of the ideals of christianity, I just don't think that the bible can be trusted as the word of God. It is a flawed book writen by the flawed interpretations of the word of god. I don't think any scripture writen by man can be given that kind of credibility, and these instinces are just evident of that. This does not mean that I am not a religious person. I just don't hold my faith in human beings.

you make a good point, and that's why i say that my battle is against man and not against God. but, as vaultdweller pointed out, "There are just some things to bizarre and unique in the world for them not to be made by someone's playful imagination." and scratcher, that's just like saying "well, the word chyrsanthemum is useless so the english language must be corrupt..."

" Its like Windows"

So now where back to PC's after discussing God?

Hey lets not forget. The Jews wrote the Torah. The Christians renamed it the Old Testament and wrote the New Testament. Then the Muslims wrote the Koran...

Ironically the Jews worship Jehova and the Muslims worship Allah...however transalted into English both words mean God.

Does anyone know where Mormonism and the Jehova's Witnesses came from? I know little about either except that they sprung from Christianity.

Sincerely,
The Vault Dweller

i don`t know what ms-blast is... but i believe in god (doesn`t mean that i pray all night long and go to church every sunday...) ...... .. i think the last time when i went to church was two years ago on christmas...

Morrons are christians who believe in the scriptures of a book called the Book of Morrmon. I think that it chronchiles a family from jeruselem from about the time of the birth of christ who were told to seek out "the promised land" or "new world" or something and they believe that it refers to america.

Jehova's witnesses are trying to find the 144,000 that revelations said would ascrnd into heaven after armagedon. They beliueve that their congregation will be those few, or include those few, or something.

It does say in the Bible that only a specific amount will rise to Heaven in Revelations so that makes sense.

Its always bugged me after something interesting happened in my family.

My Father's side of the family is all Catholic except for a Brother and his Wife and kids who are all Jehova's Witnesses. They keep their religion to themselves, but shortly after converting he told the rest of the family why and also apologised for doing it in secret supposedly 'cause its a part of their religious beliefs.

He says that one night he had a dream that God spoke to him directly. As shocking as that was the next day a person knocked on the door when they didnt expect visitors. He answered the door to find a well-dressed man whom he didnt know. This man said "Hi I'm from the Jehovah's Witnesses and I'm here to welcome you." My Uncle said "What do you mean?" The man said "Well you had the dream last night...I did long ago...now just come with me and I can explain."

My Uncle (as far as I know) didnt divulge anything else as after that he converted. Also if any of you dont believe me Im not offended as I find it equally hard to believe.

Sincerely,
The Vault Dweller

Believe whatever you want, as long as it's not mormonism(?), what those guys believe is just too whacked out..

For the complete history of the Mormons, check out the brilliant South Park episode "It's all about the Mormons" (season 7, episode 12)

Actually, a little of that history is fudged, but nonetheless most of it is true. Anyway, I probably wouldn't be so anti-christian if I didn't see it as a bigger problem in our society (America) than it is help.