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black squares around objects

February 1st 2008, 02:34 PM
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know my English is not very good... I'm from Italy.
Since I installed windows professional xp, and changed motherboard and videoboard, I didn't see the screen very well: all around charachters, houses, trees, barrels, etc, I see a black square that moved (or stayed) with them, and since two years ago I didn't play anymore, because of this.
And, when the game loads, after, I see white squares around the words "PLAY", "QUIT"...

Today I have installed 1.08 version, but it's the same. Dink was my favourite game...
Help me, please!!
Thank you by Monica
February 1st 2008, 05:45 PM
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fireball5
Peasant He/Him Australia
Let me heat that up for you... 
so black/white squares appear around ogjects?

this seems to be a transparency issue. as most (if not all) sprites are irregulaly shaped and don't take up all the space in an image. therefore there is left over space. it is usually filled with either white or black, and depending on the ini line the game reads this as transparency. but on your computer, something must be stopping transparency from working

when you changed your hardware and installed xp, did everything work ok? maybe there is an issue with your graphics card?
February 1st 2008, 11:45 PM
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DinkDude95
Peasant He/Him Australia
The guy with the cute D-Mod. 
What's an ogject?

Riverstorm, grab a felt-tipped pen, the same colour as the background, and scribble over the white/black space. Your transparency issue should be fixed.
February 2nd 2008, 01:00 AM
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Chrispy
Peasant He/Him Canada
I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to.I guess. 
Could be debug mode?
February 2nd 2008, 05:31 AM
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Yes, I think it's something about transparency.
Once I have a look in DinkEdit, and there I saw the same black squares.
But I changed Windows, motherboard and graphc card at the same time, and I can't understand what of these three things caused that inconvenient.
If Dink works normally with XPprofessional in all other pc (except mine) I think it's the graphics card:
it's NDIVIA GeForce 4MX 440-SE, and I have no ideas of what to do...
anyway, thank you for your answer
February 2nd 2008, 05:35 AM
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Hei, DinkDude95... I don't understand English very well, OK, but... your felt-tipped pen, is an advanced technological instrument, or a joke????
February 2nd 2008, 05:38 AM
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Thank you for tour answer, Chrispy, but... what is the "debug mode"? I've understood the words,I know the term "debug", but I don't know what is it, and where I can find it..
February 2nd 2008, 06:05 AM
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Try playing dink with DFArc.exe and make sure the "Debug" and "True Color" boxes are not checked. (Generally, true colour shouldn't be used unless it's specificly stated in the dmod, it's slower and black and white boxes appear around some graphics)

Also, I think your English is quite good, don't underestimate yourself so.
February 2nd 2008, 02:43 PM
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DaVince
Peasant He/Him Netherlands
Olde Time Dinkere 
Debug mode is basically a special game mode intended for the developers to easily control and check some more stuff in the game, like movement, collissions (you'd see boxes around sprites in different colours), sprite numbers etcetera. A normal user shouldn't have this on.
February 2nd 2008, 06:24 PM
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Someone
Peasant He/Him Australia
 
Yes it's related to your video card. There is a compatibility problem and the transparencies are not being handled properly.

Install the newest DirectX drivers and the newest NVIDIA drivers. It might work. If it doesn't, you can try to install *old* video card drivers, as close to when Dink was released as you can (probably the oldest you can find).

But unfortunately it's possible that your GF 4MX video card may never be able to run Dink properly.
February 2nd 2008, 08:46 PM
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fireball5
Peasant He/Him Australia
Let me heat that up for you... 
Dink Smallwood's debug mode isn't very good, and is quite basic. i have seen BASIC denuggers more informative than this, with options to stop all script/application execution and continue step-by-step
February 2nd 2008, 11:17 PM
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DinkDude95
Peasant He/Him Australia
The guy with the cute D-Mod. 
What's a BASIC denugger?

February 3rd 2008, 09:22 PM
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fireball5
Peasant He/Him Australia
Let me heat that up for you... 
BASIC is a programming language.
therefore a BASIC debugger must be a debugger for BASIC. but i was saying that the debugger in BASIC is better than the Dink debugger. why can't dink have adequate development tools? WDE+ is good, but slow, and i hear there are good scripting utilities out there but i have yet to have found a debugging app
February 3rd 2008, 10:22 PM
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Chrispy
Peasant He/Him Canada
I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to.I guess. 
It's something to do with the fact that maybe 15000 people have ever known about dinkc, while probably more than 15000000 know about basic?
February 4th 2008, 03:52 AM
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DinkDude95
Peasant He/Him Australia
The guy with the cute D-Mod. 
AGH!! You don't get it Fireball!! I said

"What's a denugger?"

I didn't want to hear about the BASIC language! I know all about that! I wanted to know what a 'denugger' is! It happened before with those 'ogjects' as well! GEEEEEEZZZZZZZZZ!!
February 4th 2008, 02:19 PM
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DaVince
Peasant He/Him Netherlands
Olde Time Dinkere 
PROTIP: Don't care about typos when you're replying.
February 5th 2008, 01:36 AM
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Phoenix
Peasant He/Him Norway
Back from the ashes 
I feel your pain, pal. Unfortunately, most people don't care about how they spell, and thus the linguistic jokes pass most people by. If it makes you feel any better, I got your joke the first time I read it.
February 5th 2008, 01:37 AM
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Phoenix
Peasant He/Him Norway
Back from the ashes 
why can't dink have adequate development tools?

Who's stopping you from making one? I'm just asking. Don't expect others to do your job. Why don't you make good use of that BASIC debugger of yours and create a Dink debugger with its help?
February 11th 2008, 12:32 PM
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sleepy
Ghost They/Them
 
hi, something similar happened as well. when i pick debug mode, there is 2 bar of white line on top left corner - annoying? does debug affects the game?
February 11th 2008, 09:33 PM
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Striker
Noble She/Her United States
Daniel, there are clowns. 
Other than what's been described here, it doesn't really effect gameplay.
February 12th 2008, 12:16 AM
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fireball5
Peasant He/Him Australia
Let me heat that up for you... 
those white bars ARE the debugger... that is why the dink debugger is crap and uninformative. i might one day make a better debugger when i get the chance but i am *busy*
February 12th 2008, 12:51 PM
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Phoenix
Peasant He/Him Norway
Back from the ashes 
You are what? 12? 13? And you're busy? Man. If I could only have as much time now as when I was that young...
March 20th 2008, 01:40 PM
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I tried all, but my video card isn't good for Dink...
There is a new pc, now, in the room near this... I'm going to install Dink there, and I hope it works!!
March 20th 2008, 02:04 PM
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Skull
Peasant He/Him Finland bloop
A Disembodied Sod 
Three things:
*Open DFArc 2.00.
*And then click on the debug mark. Not the writing. The v mark.
*Try out if it works now.

Simple enough?