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Why organic food is better for you. A bare-bones explanation.

October 27th 2013, 04:58 AM
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KrisKnox
Peasant He/Him United States
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Organic foods are more expensive, but because they're more nutritious, they fill you up and keep you filled longer and faster. This means that you do not need to eat as much, meaning that, if you consistently eat organic fruits, vegetables, and free-range meats, you will not be hungry all of the time and your weight will be easier to manage.
Due to not needing to eat so much, you will actually pay approximately close to the food bills were previously, at a ratio of buying and nutritional value, 9:1 to 1:9 inorganic and organic respectively. (Based on my family's diet)

Also, sugar is not bad, when eaten in moderation. Sugar occurs naturally in many foods, like fruits and some vegetables. Raw sugar is best, whereas white/granulated sugar is worst, as it is often bleached. Raw sugar is a light brown color and tastes even sweeter than granulated sugar. Alternatives to sugar, for the diabetics or those who do not wish to eat sugar, such as stevia or xylitol are healthy alternatives, whereas aspartame and saccharine-based alternatives, such as splenda, are toxic under the right conditions.
Aspartame, in particular, undergoes a chemical transformation from C14H18N2O5 to CH2O (formaldehyde) when subjected to heat.
Stevia is extracted from the eponymous plant and is natural and doesn't have the nasty aftertaste of aspartame or saccharine. Xylitol is a crystal sugar alcohol that has health benefits such as being unfermentable (meaning bacteria can't feed on it and thus rotting your teeth)and being a healthy alternative for diabetics.

I hope you all enjoyed this, and I hope it clears up and unspoken confusion you guys have.
October 27th 2013, 06:22 AM
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ThePunisher
Peasant He/Him Australia
(Tag Line) How long is this line. 
Thats pretty impressive Kris.

However you probably go to KFC every week and watch NASCAR and drink moonshine.
October 27th 2013, 06:53 AM
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KrisKnox
Peasant He/Him United States
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If you're going to be blatantly stupid, Pred, then don't bother posting here. I'm sure Scratcher will be more than happy to make sure this informative thread remains informative.
October 27th 2013, 08:01 AM
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So how 'bout them kangaroos, ay' maate? Is it fun to ride them and swing your boomerang at all the fat people? Or do ya save 'em for the crocodiles?

I translated what you said into what you would have said if Kris was Australian and you were American.
October 27th 2013, 04:08 PM
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truth ghost
Ghost They/Them
 
know what else is important

oral hygiene

snarf snarf
October 27th 2013, 04:38 PM
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DackFight
Peasant He/Him United States
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Why are you here, also pun was rather funny.

Edit: Also like I asked earlier, isn't moonshine illegal?
October 27th 2013, 06:19 PM
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Quiztis
Peasant He/Him Sweden bloop
Life? What's that? Can I download it?! 
Hm. This board is full of idiots.
October 27th 2013, 06:24 PM
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Organic foods are much harder to produce, and while they may supply us with more nutrients than other foods, they are far less efficient. Considering how much of the world is starving, and how quickly the population is growing, organic foods are a luxury we shouldn't be having. Home grown food has other benefits, namely that it A. Is cheaper for the person growing it and B. Doesn't detract from the market, but the larger scale organic products supply less than they should be able too. At this time, that is OK, but increasing demand for it will cause more groups to turn to organic foods, detracting from the food market. This, in the long run, will cause a global shortage of food.

I know organic food is good for you, and if we were in a post-scarcity economy, I would totally support it, but we aren't. Food is up there with oil and fresh water as one of the scarcest things on the planet right now. Being complacent about it will only lead to humanities downfall.

This is why I'm all for the 'lab grown burger' idea, the creation of meat in laboratories for the purposes of consumption. Many are against it, but it may be one of the only things we can do to produce food fast enough to feed the human population in the future.

You know, either that, or population control. In the style of "You can't have kids, you don't meet X criteria.", which sounds rather too vindictive and controlling to be good for society.
October 27th 2013, 09:10 PM
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You know, either that, or population control.

In my opinion, that's far more sensible than meeting an exponentially increasing demand by producing more and more food artificially. If having food to eat is dependant on a complicated process, I think it's just a matter of time for a crash to occur; then our descendants really will have an apocalyptic scenario on their hands, with people starving and killing each other. And eating brains.

I'd say there are too many people already, if producing food naturally is unfeasible.

Should send some suckers to Mars.
October 28th 2013, 12:04 PM
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SabreTrout
Noble He/Him United Kingdom
Tigertigertiger. 
Food is not scarce, globally speaking.
October 28th 2013, 04:57 PM
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I was speaking in the future tense. I know it's not now, but it will be soon. It isn't as important as finding alternative fuel sources, and preventing the destruction of our planet, but it's something to keep in mind.
October 29th 2013, 05:45 PM
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DackFight
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I vote we sacrifice pun to the DDC so we may a good harvest
October 31st 2013, 02:11 AM
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schnapper
Peasant He/Him Heard Island And Mcdonald Islands
Let us save our effort and just lie down and die. 
Haha, Punisher actually made me laugh... kinda like a caricature.

Anyhow, the best tasting fruit/veg is found in your garden or the greengrocer, not the local supermarket, at least here in Melbourne.
October 31st 2013, 03:04 AM
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KrisKnox
Peasant He/Him United States
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I have a garden behind my house. We grow stuff.
October 31st 2013, 04:27 AM
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ThePunisher
Peasant He/Him Australia
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I have a garden behind my house. We grow stuff

What do you grow marijuana?
October 31st 2013, 10:45 AM
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KrisKnox
Peasant He/Him United States
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Just straight out, Pred, you're a dumbass.
October 31st 2013, 10:02 PM
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DackFight
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Don't state the obvious
October 31st 2013, 10:06 PM
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Skull
Peasant He/Him Finland bloop
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You didn't say no. So now the obvious thing is to assume you do grow marijuana behind your house!
October 31st 2013, 10:08 PM
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DackFight
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He's got a point
October 31st 2013, 11:25 PM
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Hey, nothing wrong with growing marijuana on your backyard! Morally, anyway, the law might beg to differ.
November 1st 2013, 12:01 AM
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KrisKnox
Peasant He/Him United States
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I live in Oregon, but I don't grow. I don't have a license to grow.
November 1st 2013, 12:37 AM
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ThePunisher
Peasant He/Him Australia
(Tag Line) How long is this line. 
Like with driving a licence dosent matter its common sense and logic that will matter at the end of the day.
November 1st 2013, 01:07 AM
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KrisKnox
Peasant He/Him United States
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You need a license to show that you understand how to drive, just like you need a license to make sure you're not distributing illegally. I would grow legitimately and practically give it away to terminal cancer patients. Imagine, organic weed. Imagine the trips that would cause.
November 1st 2013, 01:23 AM
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ThePunisher
Peasant He/Him Australia
(Tag Line) How long is this line. 
No you need pure driving capabilities to drive.

My grandmother during her final days as a licence driver was one of the worst drivers the world has ever seen.

November 1st 2013, 02:38 AM
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KrisKnox
Peasant He/Him United States
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I must reiterate: You need a license to prove that you can drive. If you are over the speed limit or swerving to and fro, if you don't have a license, it means you're a criminal for disobeying the law. That's not mentioning that a driver's license acts as the go-to for an ID.
November 1st 2013, 02:42 AM
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ThePunisher
Peasant He/Him Australia
(Tag Line) How long is this line. 
No you dont I bet can drive atleast twice as good licence drivers.

What you need is fuel for a car.

Logic and common sense>Law
November 1st 2013, 07:32 AM
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Quiztis
Peasant He/Him Sweden bloop
Life? What's that? Can I download it?! 
I bet I can do surgery at least twice as good as those doctors!

What you need is Surgeon Simulator 2013.

Logic and common sense>Law

What utter bullcrap. You are not allowed to drive without a license, not even in Australia where I can imagine there's only long straight roads from town to town.
November 1st 2013, 08:08 AM
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ThePunisher
Peasant He/Him Australia
(Tag Line) How long is this line. 
Do actually have the skill to do surgery? I thought not.

I have the actual skill to do it I just dont have my own car.

You must as dumb as most religious people in the 21st century.

Whats next I need a licence to take a crap and people like the sheep they are(Quiztiz) will defend to no end regardless of how impractical or ridiculous it is.

Once I some how get a cheap pre-owned car I bet I can drive for 5 years without a licence.
November 1st 2013, 08:18 AM
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Skull
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Kris, I think Punisher is trying to say that having a license doesn't mean you're a good driver. There are some horrible drivers out there with a card. Some even so horrible that the card gets taken away from them. And there are some perfectly good drivers out there, who don't have a license. In that regard, I do somewhat agree that common sense > law in this case. I think it could even help a little bit in decreasing the amount of car accidents, but maybe that's stretching it.
November 1st 2013, 08:43 AM
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Quiztis
Peasant He/Him Sweden bloop
Life? What's that? Can I download it?! 
Hah, now that is a petty insult Punisher. You don't need a license for being a sad troll.

Then where did you get your "driving skills"? By playing Grand Theft Auto?
November 1st 2013, 08:51 AM
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ThePunisher
Peasant He/Him Australia
(Tag Line) How long is this line. 
"driving skills"

By driving on the farm and then driving on the road.

In that regard, I do somewhat agree that common sense > law in this case. I think it could even help a little bit in decreasing the amount of car accidents, but maybe that's stretching it.

Probably the smartest thing Skull had ever said.
November 1st 2013, 11:32 AM
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metatarasal
Bard He/Him Netherlands
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Only on the Dinknetwork can a discussion about the merits of organic food (I'd love to try inorganic food by the way!) change so quickly into a discussion on just how bad Punnie is at driving...

Also, a reference to the Dunning-Kruger effect might be appropriate here.
November 1st 2013, 11:40 AM
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Therainmaker
Peasant He/Him United States
God save the Boxxy 
Organic food bought from a store isn't likely to be any more nutritious than chemical laden bananas. Produce loses vitamins the second it's cut from the host plant. It then sits on trucks for weeks, slowly losing vitamins over time. Upon reaching a store it's exposed to light, which destroys yet more vitamins. Lastly, most people cook their vegetables, and you guessed it, that obliterates vitamins.

It would be one thing to grow organically grown vegetables at your house so you could cut and steam them immediately, but you have no idea what you're getting nutritionally speaking at a store.

However, the plus side about organic foods is that their genetics haven't been modified and they aren't bathed in chemicals. As for meat products, you won't be getting any of the hormones of antibiotics that industrial meat producers pump into already sick animals in order to increase production.

Also, if we're concerned about being able to sustain our own food supply, we should cut back on industrial meat production before we stop growing organic produce, grains and beans. Meat production requires ENORMOUS amounts of grains, money, environmental cost and suffering of animals when you could be eating rice and beans for a complete protein.

If you have the money, buy organic. If you don't, don't lose any sleep over it.

Source: 2 years of vegetarianism and 2 months of veganism

Also, read the book Wheat Belly.
November 1st 2013, 03:14 PM
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DackFight
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What was wheat belly about?
November 1st 2013, 04:08 PM
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@Therainmaker, that is why I support the work currently being done on synthesizing meat. It may be possible, soon, to produce the various products vegans refuse to eat (Meat, eggs, milk, etc.) without animals at all, which would vastly reduce the space required and allow us to feed without harming animals in the process.

It also comes with some neat side effects, namely that we would be able to try the meat of endangered species. On the downside, I expect that most current livestock would all but die out entirely, as they would become worthless.
November 1st 2013, 04:10 PM
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KrisKnox
Peasant He/Him United States
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Pred, what I'm getting at is you need a license to drive, to be able to legally drive, to be able to drive without getting arrested. I don't know how many variations I have to say to get you to understand.
November 1st 2013, 06:00 PM
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DackFight
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He never understands, unless someone agrees with him.
November 1st 2013, 06:22 PM
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Skull
Peasant He/Him Finland bloop
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Kris, are you really not getting that Punisher does understand you need a license to legally drive, but that he just doesn't agree that it should be so? It's kinda silly to watch you complain about him not understanding your point, when you're actually the one not getting his point.

Also, on a completely different note, isn't it about time people stopped calling him "Predator"? There's another account named that on the site, and imo it's sort of disrespectful towards that person, to use his username to refer to Punisher.
November 1st 2013, 11:22 PM
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DackFight
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I don't know why we call him pred.
November 2nd 2013, 03:16 AM
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KrisKnox
Peasant He/Him United States
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Because it's easier to read mentally, takes less space, and the Predator that Skull mentioned hasn't posted in so long that I don't think he's coming back.
Plus, that's how he was known originally and my mind works weird.
November 2nd 2013, 09:32 AM
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Quiztis
Peasant He/Him Sweden bloop
Life? What's that? Can I download it?! 
How about PP? (PredatorPunisher)

Eeeh! Come on.
November 2nd 2013, 12:23 PM
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Skull
Peasant He/Him Finland bloop
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Actually, originally he was known as Hitler, so...
November 2nd 2013, 01:42 PM
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DackFight
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We might deter the Jews then
November 2nd 2013, 05:16 PM
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KrisKnox
Peasant He/Him United States
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Calling him hitler would only stroke his ego. Or something.
November 2nd 2013, 07:50 PM
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DackFight
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I don't want to stroke another guy!
November 2nd 2013, 10:29 PM
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Skull
Peasant He/Him Finland bloop
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I don't want to stroke another guy!

Are you sure? Cause I know this guy named Milder.
November 3rd 2013, 12:11 PM
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DackFight
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A guy stroking another guy is just wrong, a girl stroking a guy on the other hand is a different story, a girl stroking a guy from the DN is just imagination though, sad sad imagination.
November 4th 2013, 09:47 AM
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Therainmaker
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God save the Boxxy 
I laughed.