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It took me about a half hour to compile this list, many of which are only loosely punk, but they are all excellent and at least closely related to punk. Don't be surprised if your favorite(s) is left out.

1. Bad Brains - Bad Brains
2. Dead Kennedys - Plastic Surgery Disasters
3. Wire - Pink Flag
4. Fugazi - Repeater
5. Gang of Four - Entertainment
6. Minor Threat - Complete Discography
7. Wipers - Youth of America
8. The Ramones - The Ramones
9. Black Flag - Damaged
10. Bad Brains - Rock for Light
11. Dead Kennedys - Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables
12. Meat Puppets - II
13. NoMeansNo - Worldhood of the World (As Such)
14. Drive Like Jehu - Drive Like Jehu
15. Minutemen - Buzz or Howl Under the Influence of Heat
16. Bad Religion - Against the Grain
17. The Clash - The Clash
18. Operation Ivy - Energy
19. [SUB][HUM][ANS] - The Day the Country Died
20. Turbonegro - Ass Cobra

- Note: I took off "Nomeansno - Wrong" and
"Ramones - Leave Home" to replace them with "Meat Puppets - II" and "Operation Ivy - Energy". Hey, we're not all perfect.

im not gonna post stuff thats just considered "punk" cause if you notice its so diverse 99% are confused to what "punk" is or isnt anyway. but here are the 20 albums that have done the most damage to my ears.

>descendents - somery
>rancid - let's go
>american steel - jagged thoughts
>refused - the shape of punk to come
>angry samoans - back from samoa
>circle jerks - VI
>hot water music - forever & counting
>hot water music - fuel for the hate game
>thursday - waiting
>the clash - london calling
>crass - christ the album
>anti flag - their system doesnt work for you
>misfits - walk among us
>screeching weasel - my brain hurts
>berlin project - things we say
>alkaline trio - goddammit
>choking victim - no gods / no managers
>operation ivy - energy
>nofx - s&m airlines
>against all authority - nothing new for trash like you

I considered putting Refused on the list, but I'm not familiar enough with them. Misfits - Static Age would probably be my #21.

Punk is the worse music next to crrap. Punk music is dead and has been for years. Let it go,boys.

No, that would be modern hiphop and country in a dead tie. Manufactured pop would probably be in there too.

I really dont listen to music...I dont even have a CD player in my car!

Wow Kat you sound like a Mom talking to her kids.

Sincerely,
The Vault Dweller

Well... considering her age and the other posters' age, and considering she has children, that isn't too surprising.

Yeah guys, punk music is dead.. after all, there are only *a lot* of punks bands in existence, not *tons.*

Mexico > Punk > Country. 'Nuff said.

Actually, yes.

HAHAHAHA KAT, 80% of good music in existence today is somehow related to punk rock. have you been in a freakin record store any time in the last 2 decades?

"punk is dead" that phrase was made by punks who didnt like how it was being commercialized, saying it wasnt true "punk" like not l337 anymore, it doesnt mean punk rock is not a huge part of music as we know it. get your act together, geeeeeeez.

Alright, let me rephrase that. I thought Mexico would be good enough.

shoot > Punk > Country

You just have to accept the fact that people like to listen to crappy music, Josh. It's going to be that way forever.

Hey hey, two people slandering the art form I like to call hiphop?

What you see on TV and what you hear on the radio, that is not hiphop. It's not even close. It's pop music, hippop, whatever you would like to call it. Real hiphop is not about guns/cash/women, it's about real life issues and all that stuff where you can actually learn something from.

So, let's recap:
NOT hiphop: 50 cent, eminem, camron, chingy, ja rule, g-unit, j-kwon, (insert whatever is playing on your local tv right now)

REAL hiphop: Blackalicious, J-Live, Lifesavas, KRS-One, Beasty Boys, Immortal Technique, Looptroop, Promoe, Chords, Dilated Peoples, Gift of Gab, Aceyalone, Talib Kweli, Mos Def, Tonedeff, Pack Fm, Substantial, Swollen Members, Jurassic 5, Starflam, etc...

Now get it straight, aight?

You forgot the king! 2pac shakur! And snoop dogg!
**EDIT**: Dr.Dre and Public Enemy

I'll give you Public Enemy

And Tupac, he was real I guess.. Unlike Dre or Snoop though, let's not talk about them..

Dinkers listening to hip-hop? I just have trouble imagining someone playing Dink with hip-hop music in the background...

I suppose your right though Dukie...there's commercial and then...real stuff...

Sincerely,
The Vault Dweller

Dukie, wanna make some rap D-mods?
Or we could simply release our midi songs with text or make songs and let Dink rap 'em in his animations. Like a video-mod!

Dukie you are forgiven as you are from Bulgaria(sp?).

Kory if you ever make a rapper dmod, I think I may go on the prowl and hunt you down ( ).

Joshriot, I live above a record store and punk ROCK, is a bad version of good old rock.

VaultDweller, I am a mom and both daughters listen to crap and hippity hop music. When I buy them a CD (for birthday's etc. and they get to pick) I am worse them a teenager buying condoms in a small town.

Kat could you contact me on MSN? korydn@hotmail.com

Real hiphop is not about guns/cash/women, it's about real life issues and all that stuff where you can actually learn something from.

See, I'm not into words... I'm all about the sound. Lyrics just don't mean much to me. And most of the things that supposedly fall under hiphop are all about words.

So, until I actually hear more stuff that's actually decent... I'm going to remain skeptical.

Hmm... What, Oh Esteemed Kat, constitutes "good old rock"? Do you mean, like, crap from the fifties (i.e. Elvis), or good music from the late 60s- 70s- 80s (i.e. "Back in Black")? I have nothing against the latter except its kind of same-ish to my ear.

And to call the (Edit: allegedly good) groups Dukie listed pop would be bizzare, considering that only one or two are well known.

P.S. I hope you won't call the Beach Boys or some other ear-raping group "good old rock"...

E=mc Kory
Trash Talk
Oh, yeah!
dang, this is smooth.
Yo, a lot of people been askin' what the Hawkman's all about, this one's for you.

"E" stands for energy, yo that's me,
I'm a brilliant scientist and a dope MC.
Before you step to me I'd think twice G,
I'm the Lord of Chaos, King of Entropy.
You down with it? I motherfudgein' hope so,
'cause if you're not, I got a motherfudgein' rope yo!
I'll string you up, from a big-ass tree,
with a sign round your neck that says, "Wack MC".
There ain't another motherfudgeer hard like me,
I'm a universal constant, I'm a singularity.
Got Doomsday at my back with fat-ass tracks,
he pumps funk in the cracks and cuts wax with an axe.
So listen up she dog, 'cause there may be a test,
my style is smooth, but it's hard to digest.
My science is tight, rhymes faster than light,
like a ton of TNT I'm about to ignite.

Chorus
E=mc,
E=mc Kory! 3x

I explode like a bomb, no one is spared,
my power is my mass times the speed of light squared.
Hoes on my tip, 15 bullets in my clip,
my hand rests heavy on my pistol grip.
Doomsday cuts it up like a Shaolin monk,
pumping the funk in your junk-trunk punk.
There's no escaping here, I'm gonna beat you out of shape,
like a fudgeing black hole even light can't escape.
Got the mind to bust a rhyme to make your brain bleed,
other rappers talk shoot, but they gotta concede,
that I'm a 3 sandwich eatin', super-model meetin',
step to me punk and you're gonna get a beatin'.
So listen up she dog, 'cause there may be a test,
my style is smooth, but it's hard to digest.
My science is tight, rhymes faster than light,
like a ton of TNT I'm about to ignite.

Chorus

Break down!
Ah yeah, that's right, E=mc Hawking motherfudgeers!
God dang, that was some stanky-ass funk.
Somebody open a motherfudgein' window.
Yo Doomsday, take us out.

At 3am after an all day LAN party, MC Hawking is the most hilarious thing ever. After that, he just wasn't all that funny.

How nice of you to add you 1 cent in there MiloBones. I was a teenager in the 70's, yes I do miss the cunning words that musicians used to describe drugs (60's and 70's) and was happy to listen to those singers rock on in the 80's and 90's with their Freedom of Lyrics. Maybe you should clean out your ears more often? (Beach Boys were more Pop Rock). I do enjoy listening to: Nickleback,Counting Crows, Linkiin Park and Black Eyed Pleas lately, yet I haven't forgotten about The Rolling Stones and Aerosmith.And why call Elvis crap?? Because he was the undisputed King of Rock and Roll? Maybe I just like music that says something. (unlike those Beastie Boys who say nothing) My record/CD collection goes way back, so imagine yourself without Computers or TV or Nintendo Games (etc.), you'll find that good music is good on your soul.

(Heh...does that mean I am no longer a peasant, but esteemed? )

oh thats right, you like THE BEATLES and THE DOORS. hate to break it to you, but nickelback is no talent crap.

i can play any of that stuff with my eyes closed, seriously, music has evolved a little more than that. if you are one of those wierdos who still thinks rolling stones had good basslines it invalidates your musical oppinions.

Whoa there are a dozen posts in just one day! What a heated topic!

The closest thing I can get to good instrumental is the rock from the 60's, 70's, and 80's. Great music and the lyrics are even good. Seems odd since I grew up in the 90's.

One of my favorite songs that represents how I feel well is "Keep on rockin' in the free world" by Neil Young.

Sincerely,
The Vault Dweller

*EDIT*

Dude! Kory did you write that yourself!? That kicks ass! Its funny and appropriate...

*END EDIT*

No... it's a rip from MC Hawking, as I said.

Striker, you think that.
Well yrs it is a rip of MC Hawking.

Oh my dear Kat, what are you saying there?

First you say you don't like hiphop, but then you admit enjoying the Black Eyes Peas? But they are hiphop, so what gives?

But even worse, claiming that the Beastie Boys don't say anything? While their new cd 'Back to the 5 Boroughs' is getting slammed by (some) reviewers because of their highly political lyrics? It seems that they're saying too much. It's actually the Black Eyes Peas who don't say much. Admitted, "Where is the Love" is a positive song, but apart from that, they've taken a very commmercial route now. Songs like "Hey Mama" or "Let's get retarded" (or "Let's get it started" as the cleaned up version they sold to the NBA) are just fluffy pop music without any content at all. I sometimes listen to them too though, once in while.

So let's compare It takes time to build of the BB's latest album and ANY song from the Black Eyed Peas. Please, tell me then, who says nothing/

And finally, me being from Bulgaria?? I'm from Belgium! You go too far there

To Striker, I want both, good lyrics and good music. I'll see if I can find some you might like

People here don't listen to hop-hip and Enimen

I could say that you've lost all credibility now, but that would require you to have any in the first place.

Why do you hate popular music and love stuff no-one has ever even heard off? It's okay to have a really weird music taste, but you don't have to mock all the great bands just because your own favourites never made it out of your neighborhood.

EDIT: I can't imagine a dinker listening to Kylie Minoque......

Well, you have to admit, Nickelback is crap.

Their loss

So sorry my Dukie, that's what I get from asking my sister where the best errrr *smoke*
comes from (maybe she thought I said Beer??), and I should have said Kid Rock instead of Black Eyed Peas (I asked my sister who sang a certain song..she said Black Eyed Peas, thank goodness she has gone home for awhile).

I was never a Beatles ot Doors fan, joshriot, at least not for all that yeah, yeah, yeah stuff, but John Lennon song *Imagine* and a few others will always live on. Maybe The Ramones (are they still alive?) will sing Imagine? I see a lot of good songs being recycled nowadays and usually they kill the song .

Rock On NickleBack!!

btw joshriot...haven't seen you win any music awards or even sell an album. You still living at home?

OMG...I didnt know Kat could flame!

Sincerely,
The Vault Dweller

What was the artist called who sang rock/rap mix? Similiar he was to Kid Rock. And yea the Blacked Eyed Peas suck, especialy this ape look alike guy with long hair. WTF is hip-hop when you yell like an idiot "HEY MAMA!"
But the song: "Remember the Love" was acctualy good.

Dude, so many errors in that post.

Kid Rock does rap/rock (he says). Black Eyed Peas don't suck. There's nothing wrong with long hair. Yelling "Hey Mama" in a chorus can be hiphop. "Where is the love" was the good song.

Long hair is great! It keeps you warm, you can play with it, and you can even keep a family of mice it!

Sadly I had most of my hair cut off a while ago, so if anybody has a home for Benjy mouse, he would be very greatful.

And the Black Eyed Peas don't suck at all! You mean, mean, mean people.

I'm not lying when I say I've never ever ever heard of ANY of the bands ALL of you have summed up

Anything that's too loud and bangs my ears doesn't find its way into my CD player, ever.

And in all those years I've never seen Kat flame except in this post. Josh must have really gone too far

I think Tal's managed to get some flames out of her before. At least, I thought he did once.

Affirmative.

You are correct, Striker. Tal and I did have a flame war a very long time ago.

Inserts "Rolling Stones: Forty Licks" into CD player

(listens to "The Sultans of Swing" by Dire Straits)

(listens to "Classical Gas" by Mason Williams)

(listens to "We Didn't Start the Fire" by someone)

Sincerely,
The Vault Dweller

Listens to metallica all the way around, sometimes when i am bored i usually listen to kid rock, and they suck after my opinion

Did you maybe said something BAD about Metallica Glennglenn? Umm...they rule.
I mostly listen to breakbeats. For example Boomfunk mc's, Music Instructor, Flying Steps, Def Cut.....

Bomfunk mc's? Finland is taking over Dink Network!

Haven't we already? I mean, we're the only non-english people who freguently speak our own language here on the board.... and there's so many of us here considering that Finland is such a small country.

MUAHAHAA! ehkä pitäisi perustaa the finnish dink network.

yea get away from here

And Kory I didnt say anything bad about metallica, i said that Kid rock sucked since i saw a post by Dukie and i wanna piss him off alil bit at least try , but I would never say anything bad about metallica

"We Didn't Start The Fire" was by Billy Joel. Sorry to say, but Metallica started sucking after And Justice For All.

Ummm... It's obvious the Dutch speaking people are taking over. We outnumber the Finnish people AND our countries are smaller!

And we don't speak our language on this board all too often because this is an international, English speaking community

Yeah, you guys even have to push dirt into the ocean to make room. Maybe you could make a land bridge to Finland?

NAPSTER BAD!! MONEY GOOD!!1

That sounds like something stupid that I'd say.

Thanks Safmoor!

So what music do Finnish people have? Also, have we ever figured out why so many of the Europeans who come here are Finnish? Do they like rpg's in particular and/or playing PC games?

Sincerely,
The Vault Dweller

Who cares?

Vaultdweller does. Obviously. And it's a fair question, so don't get all Merlin-esque again. It does my head in...

KAT:

ive sold albums dude i am in a band and people bought our cd and stuff. but im quitting that band anyway, cause my original drummer has a place to practice now so we are gonna TEAR THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOWN.

2 of the rammones are dead i think. the lead singer died a few years back, not sure about the other guy.

also i am only 19 and im in college so kiss my ass, sorry if i didnt knock someone up or smoke my brains out and have to spend the rest of my life in a trailor park and a dead end factory job.

and the rolling stones suck ass.

WOAH WOAH WOAH, how long has this post been going on and I, the Bunniemaster have not interviend.

Kat everything you have written in this post has made me want to vomit! You clame Punk rock is horrible outdated cliched music, then you come out and say you like Nickle Back and Linking park. Two totally crappy, coporate, crybaby generation, sap bands. Then your little stint about Punk being a bad attempt at Old rock. Of course it is you moron! Do you think The Clash went out and said
"Aye blokes why dont we sound like them lads on MTV?" Like so many bands do today?

No. They listend to, and emulated THE ROLLING STONES, and Chuck Berry, and Elivs and enjoyed the feel that music had, then they put their angst and anger in to it and distorted their guitar riffs.

I don't care if you live above a record store and think your taste in music is more articulate than others. Your still one of those blind, intraverts that buys the corporate music because they are told to.

The Rolling Stones don't suck so much as they are overrated. They make good hit songs, but the rest of the songs on their albums are boring and/or uninteresting.

<i?I don't care if you live above a record store and think your taste in music is more articulate than others. Your still one of those blind, intraverts that buys the corporate music because they are told to.[/i]

Or maybe... just maybe, she likes the music. Now stop being such an arse. Go sit in the corner and listen to your punk, but don't have a go at Kat for liking bands you hate. You just sound like a hypocrite. If you can't tell why then have a nice long think, and re-read your post.

"How dare you say punk is crap you fudgeing moron?!?! It's corporate shoot that everybody is told to love, and that's why you do!".

Do you know how STUPID that sounds?

joshriot:

I am not deaf yet, so no need to type my name in caps.

Tear the neighbour down? I hope no one is home at the time, as the could result is serious jail time and interfer with your future.

I have no desire to kiss your ass as who knows where it has been, considering all the STD's that seem to be floating around.

Glad to see you practise safe sex, nothing wrong though with living in a trailer park, or smoking your brains out (thinks fondly of Dukie ), and I have read that having a college degree, does not automatically give you a great job. We all have to start somewhere.

The Rolling Stones were part of the British Invasion, and they are just one of the many groups I enjoy listening too, why are you so obsessed(sp?) with them? They have quite a few great songs.

I am glad you were in a band and a few people bought your cd's and stuff, but you sound like an angry young man, maybe you need to talk about it more?

And I am not a dude, or do you call all women dudes? If so you really have a problem.

sabre "Now stop being such an arse. Go sit in the corner and listen to your punk, but don't have a go at Kat for liking bands you hate. You just sound like a hypocrite."

WTF....... this whole topic started after KAT criticised PUNK and said punk was bad music next to crap, is that not bashing bands motherfudgeer?? its not hypocritical, if someone attacks the greatest music in the world in this fashion it only gives us the right to deny the allegations. and the fact that the rolling stones suck ass is just the plain and simple truth.

dude, seriously, what the fudge. its not like im just gonna give someone a hard time if they didnt do something to ask for it.

ps english bands are fudgeing fabulous and the singers sound like little fags. cockney retards.

bunniemaster

I am sure the Rolling Stones and others of the 60's and 70's generation were thinking "oh gee, lets make a video,maybe we'll be on MTV" while they were singinging their now classic songs.

You must have a iffy stomach, if my posts make you want to vomit.

I don't think my taste in music is more articulate than others, I just listen to what I like, and like what I listen too.

I don't know what the Clash said, or who they listened to do you? Maybe they should put their anger and angst [i] to much better use, then by trying to sing?

[i]Your still one of those blind, intraverts that buys the corporate music because they are told to. No one told me to listen or buy any type of music...please remember that though I grew up listening to country music (my parents choice) I enjoyed buying little 48's to play on my record player, and considering a trip to the big city was rare, I usually bought what I liked. Some things never change, as I still buy what I like.

And although I am not blind yet (thank you for mentioning it, as my eyes are fading fast, due to a degerate family disease), when it does happen, I can still listen to music and see it in my mind.

I wonder bunniemaster, just how old you are, as I can tell but your inconsistant ramblings, not as old as I thought.

Maybe you should read SabreTrout's response as he makes more sense than you.

If we are all still living 20 or 30 years from now, I'll ask you about your taste in music, might be surprising.

Thank you for intervening.

btw WOAH is for horses, and if you can't tell the difference between a horse and a girl...well maybe you need some help too.

joshriot, you seemed to do alot of trash talking about fabulous people, are you trying to tell us something?

Who said that most often quoted quote: Methinks, he protests to much" ?? (William Shakespere??)

Are you kidding me? Bunny will be listening to hardcore punk, and if he has kids, he will be laughing at them for listening to an "evolved" form of Eurodance.

This is kinda why I dont like getting involved in music or movies or tv...everyone seems to hate or at least make fun of everyone who doesnt agree with them. I thought entertainment was about having fun? This is why I play video games...disagreements can be solved with competitive matches.

In that one multiplayer Dink game can you go head-to-head? I think it would solve a LOT of arguments on this forum...

I also mean that last paragraph to be taken seriously.

Sincerely,
The Vault Dweller

Random quote!!

Grow up Josh. Go and chill out.

You have a go at the cockney accent? Pah! That's akin to me saying "Americans are all fudgeing wankers. shootty Texans". It's a completely stupid comment which DOESN'T EVEN MAKE SENSE.

Uh, and do you even know what the cockney accent IS?!? If you did, you would know that NOBODY with a true cockney accent could get into the music industry. And there is good reason for that.

Such great minds collide within this thread. Cough.

Music is the most subjective form of art. No professional movie critic will be taken seriously if they say "The Godfather" is a bad movie, but you can say the White Album is a crappy album and still be a legitimate music critic.

some people just dont get it.