The Dink Network

Time has stopped here

July 9th 2003, 08:57 PM
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KI
Peasant He/Him
 
Passed two months and this place is the same.

I saw the contest's entries, and they are deceiving: too few. I miss SimonKlaebe.

I downloaded the démod of Binirit but have not played it because there are many true color bitmaps in it, and decided to not install Dink too, until a decent démod appear. I am waiting for Simon.

The critic is: this place is stopped in time. It is getting boring everyday, and no new talents are joining.
July 9th 2003, 09:07 PM
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*coughtalent:blackdukewithrascal* Wow, sorry about that, had a big clump in my throat.
July 9th 2003, 10:13 PM
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Well, why don't you make a decent dmod if you're so critical of everyone else's?
July 9th 2003, 11:46 PM
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Because he's a dork...
July 10th 2003, 12:38 AM
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Christiaan
Bard They/Them Netherlands
Lazy bum 
amen
July 10th 2003, 02:12 AM
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SabreTrout
Noble He/Him United Kingdom
Tigertigertiger. 
What about "A Knights Tale 2"? I'd day that is certainly quite a fresh way to make a d-mod. It's small, but man it's pumped up and full of attitude for a d-mod.
I love advertising.
July 10th 2003, 02:17 AM
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Christiaan
Bard They/Them Netherlands
Lazy bum 
Knight's Tail 2 was fun, yeah. though I wouldn't call it the next POTA
but then, it doesn't try to be
July 10th 2003, 02:52 AM
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Well, at least i've tried, Nunzilla! This was my first dmod, made while working against the clock and with zero knowledge of programming languages whatsoever.
And it's not my last dmod!!
Get a cough and drop! Oops, a bug there! It should say "cough drop".
July 10th 2003, 03:20 AM
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I love advertising.

Trust us. We know.
July 10th 2003, 03:26 AM
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Christiaan
Bard They/Them Netherlands
Lazy bum 
Absolutely right dude. Let them talk. Have some respect for dmod developers Nunzilla, it's harder to make one than you might think. Every dmod author gets better and better, so don't give up! And I actually thought your dmod (Rascal) wasn't that bad at all.
July 10th 2003, 03:50 AM
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SabreTrout
Noble He/Him United Kingdom
Tigertigertiger. 
I think Nunzilla was actually paying you a compliment BlackDuke!
It seems to be that whoever made this topic is criticising the lack of talented new d-mod authors, wheras Nunzilla is using BlackDuke as proof that there are some very good, and relatively new authors on the scene.
Now let's all be happy, play "A Knights Tale 2", and give it great reviews.
July 10th 2003, 04:04 AM
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Ooooh noooo!! Is that true, Nunzilla? Then here's my apology: SORRY!

July 10th 2003, 04:42 AM
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Simeon
Peasant He/Him Netherlands
Any fool can use a computer. Many do. 
KI: Your message is a cry for Simon's D-Mod. And that's all you've got to say.
July 10th 2003, 08:22 AM
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SabreTrout
Noble He/Him United Kingdom
Tigertigertiger. 
Thinking about it, you sound like quite a moron Ki.
D-mod's don't have to have spangly new graphics to be great, though those help, but just need really good stories that are fun to go through.
There are many d-mods that have been released since PQ that have been extremely good and fun to play. So why don't you get your head out of poor Simons arse, and enjoy some of the wonderful d-mods that are about?
July 10th 2003, 08:27 AM
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Yes and no, dude! A new story is great especially if it's well made, but you can get pretty freakin' bored after you play the same game but with another map.
July 10th 2003, 08:32 AM
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SabreTrout
Noble He/Him United Kingdom
Tigertigertiger. 
No way! Any d-mod which has a decent and original story is a different game. Unless the author has simply taken the exact same elements from another d-mod, and bunged them into a EXTREMELY similar map, then you cannot compare the two as being the same game.
But there is obviously not going to be VAST changs between d-mods, simply because of the way the Dink engine works, and most d-mod authors inability to make good new graphics.
July 10th 2003, 08:39 AM
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Somehow you're right, and I liked some d-mods that had no new graphics, but I think that some new sprites can be just the thing to send the d-mod skyhigh. You can easily get bored of killing the same old monsters, don't ya think? At least a new boss could come in ... handy!
July 10th 2003, 09:25 AM
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SabreTrout
Noble He/Him United Kingdom
Tigertigertiger. 
Of course new graphics are great, especially really cool ones for bosses, but Ki says that the network is boring, with nothing new and nobody new breathing a breath of fresh air into the community, which is rubbish.
And besides, SimonK is still involved making graphics for people, such as the ones he has made for my d-mod "Kupo".
July 10th 2003, 11:16 AM
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Christiaan
Bard They/Them Netherlands
Lazy bum 
wasn't that a whole shootload of sarcasm in Nunzilla's post then?

hmmhmm..
July 10th 2003, 11:31 AM
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I'm sorry if my post seemed as if it was critiscising you, I probably should have made it clearer, but I was implying that indeed there are some new authors with some great d-mods.
July 10th 2003, 11:58 AM
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You do have examples, do you? Yeah, ok, because I said that everyone will hate me - but I'm not saying that all the new mods are garbage, on the contrary, the d-mods must not be destroyed by critical reviews and sarcasm/irony.
July 10th 2003, 08:02 PM
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KI
Peasant He/Him
 
Allikitten is so fool!

I have not do a démod because I do not want to do a démod, I want to play a
démod. I have not played decent démods since the appearition of Pilgrim Quest.

I like the work of Paul ManaUser in CrossLink and in Story of Lyna, but he
has already spent his talent and will, at least I think that.

I like SimonK because he always did a splendid démods, from the begining, like Isle of Croth,
but I think SimonK is tired now; He has doing too much efforts since Stone Of Balance and PQ,
so I am sure that he want to rest.

Now, SabreTrout -to mention someone- and all the others, have been here a lot of time and,
have spent his energies, but his démods have not surprised me like the ones of SimonK and Paul,
so I think all of you have spent yours energies and want to rest, so, the only way of playing a good
démod is waiting for a new person just like SimonK or Paul.
July 10th 2003, 08:19 PM
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Oh no, I'm so fool.

Anyways, all I'm saying is that if you can't do any better, don't complain. Don't go whining about how there aren't any good dmods out unless you're going to do something about it. And what's more, you can't expect people to come up with new and innovative ideas overnight, and you can't expect people to make such a dmod in only a month or two. Furthermore, you're saying that someone brand new is going to magically appear and make the next Pilgrim's Quest or Lyna's Story. Keep dreaming, kid.
July 10th 2003, 08:30 PM
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Darn it you! It's d-mod not De'mod!!

But on another note, it's really hard to make a great, award winning, d-mod. SimonK spent many years completing his d-mods, I'm sure that some of us just don't want to put that kind of time into making them. Many d-mods were made after PQ, and most of them decent. Maybe none of them were on the same level of PQ, but they still were great. I advise you to look at the d-mod page, instead of just seeing the epics and 9.9's, look at the 8 d-mods that you obviously must of been blind to, since they're also great.
July 11th 2003, 05:28 AM
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Actually, the whole thing with "make your own d-mods before you say bad things about the others'" kind of sucks. Look, if I don't like a music band, I say it's bad. If I don't like a game, rpg or not, I say it's bad. If I don't like... so anyway, everyone has the right to express his oppinion and nobody said that this oppinion is the best or the official or whatever.
It's just not this way. After all, the whole thing is quite..hm..subjective, and everyone has the right to like/not like new d-mods. I only wonder if it was hte same in the beggining: I mean, I think that the first d-mods got good marks because they were the first, and not neces(s?)arily good. Don't know.
July 11th 2003, 09:22 AM
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Chrispy
Peasant He/Him Canada
I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to.I guess. 
It might suck, but face the facts: it's true. It's just immature, brash, or reckless people who would insult something at face value without having an idea of what it took to get it there.

Clarification:
D-mods getting graded, is, infact, a fairly recent development.
July 11th 2003, 09:32 AM
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warplague
Ghost They/Them
 
Well, I wasn't talking about reviews and stuff, I was thinking about the gamer liking the first d-mods he ever plays, because they let him play the game a little more. Anyway, if put your way, I have never created a d-mod although if I had a guy to do the programming I would.
July 11th 2003, 09:33 AM
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Darn, I wasn't logged in!
July 13th 2003, 03:46 AM
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SabreTrout
Noble He/Him United Kingdom
Tigertigertiger. 
Simonk has put in MUCH more time than others into his d-mod, which is the main reason they turn out so great. I'm sure many d-mod authors could produce similar games if they had the patience and persistence. I don'.

I don't enjoy having a d-mod which is 3 hours + long on my hard drive, and nobody seeing it. I gonna change though, and make an epic at some point...

Personally though, I do not find Simonks d-mod to be the best. I find his humour immature (bouncing boobies?) and that brings his games down in my opinion. I also dislike the large amounts of levelling up that you often must do in his d-mods.
Most d-mod authors could slowly build up to a great d-mod, wheras Simonk didn't release one until he was happy that his game was great. A lot of Dinkers can produce similar games, but are..I gues..too impatient.
July 13th 2003, 03:54 AM
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Simeon
Peasant He/Him Netherlands
Any fool can use a computer. Many do. 
And he has the graphics. But I still sort of agree with you, Sabre
July 13th 2003, 10:33 AM
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KI
Peasant He/Him
 
I played your démod Cloud Castle and I found it good (could be better), but then played the demo of Plane Walker and it is no better than Cloud Castle, so, you were better making démod in the past.
Contraryly, Simon went always going better: Isle of Croth, then Stone of Balance... (Creeping Sands were bad, but still is not the baddest démod)
I like goods démods, not only "epics".
July 13th 2003, 02:18 PM
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SabreTrout
Noble He/Him United Kingdom
Tigertigertiger. 
I think you may find that their is a reason PlaneWalker is no better than Cloud Castle. PlaneWalker is poor, it never got to the stage where I was going to broaden it out and make it not linear in the slightest. Therefore it is not very good.
On the other hand, A Knights Tale 1+2 may not be an improvement (in fact, they certainly aren't!) over any d-mods, but it offers a different style of game, one that is much underused.
My d-mods I am doing now are distinctly more ambitious. Since Cloud Castle I haven't really tried to improve on it's formula. Wheras SimonK kept to one style, and tried (and succeeded) to improve it, myself and certain others have not gone for that approach.
Hmm...maybe this post sounds quite defensive and egotistical, I don't know. You'll like Kupo : The graphics are by Simonk.
July 13th 2003, 02:51 PM
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KI I Dont Like You More Every Minute
Keep Your Stupid,Sarcastic,Spamming,Junk Comments To Yourself
Everyone Will Agree Your Just A Attention Seeker!
Now Im 13 But Your Acting Like Your 3!
If You Dont Want To Be Hated Say Sorry And Admit You Are Wrong And That There Are Some New Good Dmods Out
And When I Say Dmods I Dont Mean démods Lol
July 13th 2003, 04:19 PM
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SabreTrout
Noble He/Him United Kingdom
Tigertigertiger. 
Don't be too harsh ThinkDink! KI does say that there are good mods, but I think he is mostly complaining about the lack of REALLY good d-mods which change a lot in the game, and have many new aspects.
In which he is right, however harsh it may seem.
July 14th 2003, 04:44 AM
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yes i know but there is good dmods coing out!
just because theres no new big epics with great graphics he thinks there bad!
thats not true
July 14th 2003, 06:24 AM
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SabreTrout
Noble He/Him United Kingdom
Tigertigertiger. 
"I like goods démods, not only "epics"."

KI does seem to greatly prefer d-mods which have great new graphics, but it's generally only epic which have these, so he is bound to prefer them.
Personally, I ccan never be bothered with most Epics, their stories just don't grab me. Occasional beauties do, like Prophecy of the Ancients, but generally they seem dull.
July 14th 2003, 09:12 AM
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Christiaan
Bard They/Them Netherlands
Lazy bum 
yeah. I'm about to change that though

July 14th 2003, 08:26 PM
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KI
Peasant He/Him
 
That is not true SabreTrout, about that I like démods with new graphics.

See, the démod that I more like is Stone of Balance; It has new graphics, but no more than a normal démod, and I like the first part of Mistery Island, in the boat, with no new graphics. I like more the story and dialogs, and the ambient too (Cycles of Evil, as an example).

Oh, and Thinkdink, I am not being sarcastic and I am not here to be of your liking.
July 15th 2003, 12:08 PM
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SabreTrout
Noble He/Him United Kingdom
Tigertigertiger. 
Hmm...to be honest, I think you are talking a load of rubbish now. Simonk and Paul the only people to surprise you? Please...
July 15th 2003, 12:16 PM
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i never said you was KI
but your just plain annoying lol