The Enneagram
The Enneagram! It's a nine-pointed shape. But also a personality system! With nine personality types. Take one of these tests and tell us what you are! I bet it will explain a lot of what goes on around here. Just take the first test in the first link if you can't decide.
http://www.eclecticenergies.com/enneagram/test.php
http://www.enneagraminstitute.com/Tests_Battery.asp
I'm a 9. That means I like to get along with everyone. I also have a lot of 5, which means I'm a hermit who likes to do lots of research.
http://www.eclecticenergies.com/enneagram/test.php
http://www.enneagraminstitute.com/Tests_Battery.asp
I'm a 9. That means I like to get along with everyone. I also have a lot of 5, which means I'm a hermit who likes to do lots of research.
You are most likely a type 4 or 9.
Taking wings into account, you seem to be a 8w9 or 9w8.
...What?
Taking wings into account, you seem to be a 8w9 or 9w8.
...What?
Yeah, I know it's confusing to have numbers for personality names. Here are some type descriptions:
http://www.enneagraminstitute.com/descript.aspnull
http://www.9types.com/
And yeah, I was guessing 8 for you. They, uh, tend to like confrontation. 9 I'd have trouble seeing, but 4 is interesting. They like to be unique.
http://www.enneagraminstitute.com/descript.aspnull
http://www.9types.com/
And yeah, I was guessing 8 for you. They, uh, tend to like confrontation. 9 I'd have trouble seeing, but 4 is interesting. They like to be unique.
I got alot of 3,2,9 barley anything in the others.
I can see that. 3s like to achieve stuff, and 2s like to help people. And like I said, 9s like to get along.
ENFP... wait, this is a different system!
Apparently my "wings seem to be balanced", But I'm predominantly 9. 5 and 2 come at equal second place.
Apparently my "wings seem to be balanced", But I'm predominantly 9. 5 and 2 come at equal second place.
The enneagram is not scientific.
The most scientifically validated model of personality is the big 5 (extraversion, neuroticism, conscientiousness, agreeableness, openness). Of the 5, extraversion and neuroticism are the most important.
Test yourself here
http://www.personal.psu.edu/j5j/IPIP/
The most scientifically validated model of personality is the big 5 (extraversion, neuroticism, conscientiousness, agreeableness, openness). Of the 5, extraversion and neuroticism are the most important.
Test yourself here
http://www.personal.psu.edu/j5j/IPIP/
Type 9 - 9
Type 5 - 6.7
Type 2 - 5
Type 4 - 4.7
Type 1 - 3
Type 8 - 2.3
I'm a type nine. That was a long test.
Type 5 - 6.7
Type 2 - 5
Type 4 - 4.7
Type 1 - 3
Type 8 - 2.3
I'm a type nine. That was a long test.
The Myers-Briggs model is much more respectable than the enneagram but it's still not a great model. It's crude to describe things in terms of how "scientific" they are so I'll try to be more specific:
a) the Myers-Briggs model is based on old psychology (Carl Jung) that was based on very weak methodology relative to contemporary psychology
b) some assumptions of the Myer-Briggs model have been found to be wrong, such as the assumption of personality types (a person is either an extravert or an introvert, not somewhere in between)
c) the Myers-Briggs model and tests are poor psychological measures when judged by modern theories of psychological measurement (psychometics)
d) a lot of stuff which is attached to the Myers-Briggs model is just hogwash. The personality profile descriptions are just made up and are vague. Claims of how the personality types interact and form relationships are just speculation (and are wrong)
a) the Myers-Briggs model is based on old psychology (Carl Jung) that was based on very weak methodology relative to contemporary psychology
b) some assumptions of the Myer-Briggs model have been found to be wrong, such as the assumption of personality types (a person is either an extravert or an introvert, not somewhere in between)
c) the Myers-Briggs model and tests are poor psychological measures when judged by modern theories of psychological measurement (psychometics)
d) a lot of stuff which is attached to the Myers-Briggs model is just hogwash. The personality profile descriptions are just made up and are vague. Claims of how the personality types interact and form relationships are just speculation (and are wrong)
The enneagram is not scientific.
They're working on that. The results will be debated, of course, but at least they aren't ignoring the need for scientific study. But for the ways I use the Enneagram, it isn't really important for it to be scientific. I primarily use these kinds of personality systems to help me notice things about myself. I find that while they haven't been rigorously tested, they tend to be densely insightful in ways that seem true when I observe myself by them. I know that doesn't constitute evidence, however.
My brief glances at the Big Five didn't make it seem as insightful or useful to me, so I haven't paid much attention to it yet, though I plan to give it another look someday because I'm sure I've missed a few things.
They're working on that. The results will be debated, of course, but at least they aren't ignoring the need for scientific study. But for the ways I use the Enneagram, it isn't really important for it to be scientific. I primarily use these kinds of personality systems to help me notice things about myself. I find that while they haven't been rigorously tested, they tend to be densely insightful in ways that seem true when I observe myself by them. I know that doesn't constitute evidence, however.
My brief glances at the Big Five didn't make it seem as insightful or useful to me, so I haven't paid much attention to it yet, though I plan to give it another look someday because I'm sure I've missed a few things.
Freindly? I think my test was flawed.
Ok I am freindly once I get behind my god forsaken shyness. That box?
The results won't be debated because nothing has been published in the scientific literature about the enneagram.
I really just want to point out that when you read stuff like this:
"Thus, each type has a particular way of coping with the dominant emotion of its Center. We can briefly see what this means by examining each type, Center by Center. In the Instinctive Center, Eights act out their anger and instinctual energies. In other words, when Eights feel anger building in them, they immediately respond to it in some physical way, raising their voices, moving more forcefully. Others can clearly see that Eights are angry because they give themselves permission to express their anger physically. "
That the author is just pulling it out of their arse. Maybe they have very insightful buttcheeks, but that doesn't change where it is coming from.
Curiously, looking at the page dinkulum linked, the enneagram will/is validated by the methods they use to the extent it resembles the big 5. It's too hard to explain why that is true here though, but I'm quite amused. They should be using a different mathematical model.
I really just want to point out that when you read stuff like this:
"Thus, each type has a particular way of coping with the dominant emotion of its Center. We can briefly see what this means by examining each type, Center by Center. In the Instinctive Center, Eights act out their anger and instinctual energies. In other words, when Eights feel anger building in them, they immediately respond to it in some physical way, raising their voices, moving more forcefully. Others can clearly see that Eights are angry because they give themselves permission to express their anger physically. "
That the author is just pulling it out of their arse. Maybe they have very insightful buttcheeks, but that doesn't change where it is coming from.
Curiously, looking at the page dinkulum linked, the enneagram will/is validated by the methods they use to the extent it resembles the big 5. It's too hard to explain why that is true here though, but I'm quite amused. They should be using a different mathematical model.
I really meant debated in the public at large, but that's a good point.
Could you name the model they should be using? That sounds interesting. Also are you talking about the Sara Scott dissertation or the SHL studies or both?
Could you name the model they should be using? That sounds interesting. Also are you talking about the Sara Scott dissertation or the SHL studies or both?
They should produce their own model based on the assumptions the enneagram makes. This makes more sense than taking psychometric assumptions that are not necessarily consistent with the enneagram. Their model should include all the things that make the enneagram distinct from other models, such as people have 'wings' (people are more similar to the types close to them than far), the way that types are affected by stress, etc. If they could just show that people classified as a certain type are relatively high on nearby types and low on far types that would be enormous support.
I got a 6 and 6w5,it was like reading a book about myself.
I fail to see how some static questions where you tick a box of choices with no other input or variables from the participant is ever likely to come close to naming the complexity of a human psyche and definately not in one sentance or so. Defined by a tick box eeekkk I hope noone is taking what it tells you seriously!
I don't really give a flying squirrel crap about the scientificness of some personality test, but I must say I did not like this one... It did give me the "type" that probably fits best, but none of those 9 really do. To date, the most scarily accurate summaration of my personality I've read was my horoscope on some site- which is probably the most unscientific and nonsensical method imaginable for determining something like that. 
@MsDink: You can tick my box 
@DuckHater: Choose your own adventure
@Someone: I see what you're saying - good points.
@everyone else:
I find that by "stereotyping" myself as catered for by these sort of tests to be helpful for me, because I am rather organised at the best of times. Stereotypes help one deal with problems quickly and effectively.
@DuckHater: Choose your own adventure
@Someone: I see what you're saying - good points.
@everyone else:
I find that by "stereotyping" myself as catered for by these sort of tests to be helpful for me, because I am rather organised at the best of times. Stereotypes help one deal with problems quickly and effectively.
I fail to see how some static questions where you tick a box of choices with no other input or variables from the participant is ever likely to come close to naming the complexity of a human psyche and definately not in one sentance or so.
Some might treat the tests that way, but the approach I take is to look at them as a starting point. The test is just a clue to which type(s) you fit the best, and then you can read the type descriptions to get a better idea. Some tests have come closer to the types I seem to be than others.
Tests by themselves aren't that helpful anyway as type descriptions because they're so abbreviated, as you pointed out. As I see it, with personality typologies like Myers-Briggs and the Enneagram, you can think of a personality type as a complicated, 3-dimensional web of traits that are tied together naturally. If you have certain traits in the web, you're likely to have others. So the tests pick out a few of those traits that can be used to distinguish between the types. Then you read the type descriptions to get the fuller picture.
But even if it were scientifically validated, I wouldn't even take the whole Enneagram system (or the Big Five or anything else) to be a complete description of a person. They're just angles to look at a personality from. They show you some things and not others. So I like to learn about a variety of them.
Some might treat the tests that way, but the approach I take is to look at them as a starting point. The test is just a clue to which type(s) you fit the best, and then you can read the type descriptions to get a better idea. Some tests have come closer to the types I seem to be than others.
Tests by themselves aren't that helpful anyway as type descriptions because they're so abbreviated, as you pointed out. As I see it, with personality typologies like Myers-Briggs and the Enneagram, you can think of a personality type as a complicated, 3-dimensional web of traits that are tied together naturally. If you have certain traits in the web, you're likely to have others. So the tests pick out a few of those traits that can be used to distinguish between the types. Then you read the type descriptions to get the fuller picture.
But even if it were scientifically validated, I wouldn't even take the whole Enneagram system (or the Big Five or anything else) to be a complete description of a person. They're just angles to look at a personality from. They show you some things and not others. So I like to learn about a variety of them.
"You are most likely a type 4.
Taking wings into account, you seem to be a 4w5."
That test is so WRONG!! Well, at least about the 4.
Taking wings into account, you seem to be a 4w5."
That test is so WRONG!! Well, at least about the 4.
@Schnapper,What does "choose your own adventure" mean?
That test is so WRONG!! Well, at least about the 4.
Oh yeah, what's wrong about it? I could see it fitting you.
Oh yeah, what's wrong about it? I could see it fitting you.
I'm type 5.
Another nerdy hermit! That means you're special. As opposed to type 4s, who only think they're special. 
I'm not biased in any way, incidentally.
Another nerdy hermit! That means you're special.
As opposed to type 4s, who only think they're special. I'm not biased in any way, incidentally.
Well i'm a 9 too and my second highest scoring is type 2
and int he wings department 9w1 and 9w8 score the highest
and int he wings department 9w1 and 9w8 score the highest
4 means I'm romantic, which is definitely a lie!
Imagine that I didn't post anything.
4 means I'm romantic, which is definitely a lie!
Ah, you're in denial. It's okay, we understand.
Ah, you're in denial. It's okay, we understand.
Enneagram Type 6 - The Loyalist
Conflicted between trust and distrust
Yep, I agree.
I am TOTALLY INSECURE.
Conflicted between trust and distrust
Yep, I agree.
I am TOTALLY INSECURE.
I'm the same type as Godley.....I'm messed up.What's next predator being a six?
Infact I sit hours i front of the computer just so that I dont have to go out and meet real people.
Like I said, I am insecure.
I feel comfortable talking to a machine than to real people.
My life is ducked up.
Like I said, I am insecure.
I feel comfortable talking to a machine than to real people.
My life is ducked up.
I spend hours on the computer because i like it.But I don't mind talking to people in person,I'll be really shy though and may stutter sometimes.
Hmm, I'm a 9, or a 9w1.
These kinds of tests are always interesting, but people can vary so much within the results. I thought the same thing when doing a learning style test as part of college (Honey & Mumford, plus another similar short one). Two people can have exactly the same test result and yet still be very different to each other.
These kinds of tests are always interesting, but people can vary so much within the results. I thought the same thing when doing a learning style test as part of college (Honey & Mumford, plus another similar short one). Two people can have exactly the same test result and yet still be very different to each other.
I am TOTALLY INSECURE.
Aww, now see? People have problems. Everybody does. So everybody be nice to everybody!
Aww, now see? People have problems. Everybody does. So everybody be nice to everybody!
What does that mean, and what language is it? Google Translate is too dumb to tell me.
A slurred halaluyah I can't spell it and clean is an inside joke that I just felt like using it were it wouldn't be recognized. .
.More like stupidish(just kidding dude).
I am a 3, or a 3w2. I also got a high 4.
The Achiever - catchy.
The Achiever - catchy.
Hey,dinkulum do you know any good test's that test your attractiveness and mental stability?
Not really, but here's a personality disorder test that could be fun to take. Why, do you feel unattractive and mentally unstable?
Its the ducks, they shut him in the closet when he was a little duckling and pushed their hands thru the cracks and harshly ripped out feather after feather till they plucked him bare, timing it intermittently so he never knew when it was coming!
Oh the fear, the PAIN, <lowers voice> the sudden chill when the air hit his bare bum, geesh that would drive anyone boncas err bonkers? oops um quac-key (maybe) - and eventually to hate who he was - a duck
Alas such a sad tale... I dont think many amongst us would feel very attractive when plucked bare... and there fellas is DuckHaters tail - err tale So sad.
(There I now think there is enough dink in this thread to make it no longer a banana )
Oh the fear, the PAIN, <lowers voice> the sudden chill when the air hit his bare bum, geesh that would drive anyone boncas err bonkers? oops um quac-key (maybe) - and eventually to hate who he was - a duck
Alas such a sad tale... I dont think many amongst us would feel very attractive when plucked bare... and there fellas is DuckHaters tail - err tale
So sad.(There I now think there is enough dink in this thread to make it no longer a banana
)@Dinkulm silly one every one thinks there unattractive.
@MsDink LoL never enough dink that's a popular mistake.
@MsDink LoL never enough dink that's a popular mistake.
I do my best Mrgantoe - I do my best...
I am good enough to be a mod here.
Paranoid 86%
Schizoid 82%
Schizotypal 90%
Antisocial 18%
Borderline 90%
Histrionic 66%
Narcissistic 10%
Avoidant 50%
Dependent 66%
Obsessive-Compulsive 78%
""As long as you have 3 different (and quite severe) emotional problems, you can become staff." - SabreTrout"
Paranoid 86%
Schizoid 82%
Schizotypal 90%
Antisocial 18%
Borderline 90%
Histrionic 66%
Narcissistic 10%
Avoidant 50%
Dependent 66%
Obsessive-Compulsive 78%
""As long as you have 3 different (and quite severe) emotional problems, you can become staff." - SabreTrout"
@Dinkulum
Coz I'm a teenager,why else?
EDIT: On a more serious note I have Mal-adaptive day dreaming disorder,i wanted to see if I have anything else.And what does ''choose your own adventure'' mean?
Coz I'm a teenager,why else?
EDIT: On a more serious note I have Mal-adaptive day dreaming disorder,i wanted to see if I have anything else.And what does ''choose your own adventure'' mean?
MsDink made a funny
You are being obsessive about your looks little guy.
You are being obsessive about your looks little guy.
*gives a sarcastic stare*
Just wait till you hit puberty.
Just wait till you hit puberty.
Choose Your Own Adventure is a series of books where the story branches. You start reading at the beginning until a page gives you a choice and some page numbers that correspond to your options, and you continue reading on the page that matches what you chose.
Paranoid |||||||||||||||| 70% 49%
Schizoid |||||||||||||||| 66% 53%
Schizotypal |||||||||||||||||| 78% 53%
Antisocial |||||||||||| 42% 47%
Borderline |||||||||||||| 58% 47%
Histrionic |||||| 30% 43%
Narcissistic |||||||||| 38% 41%
Avoidant |||||||||||| 46% 39%
Dependent |||||||||||| 50% 37%
Obsessive-Compulsive |||||||||| 38% 40%
Me and you both godley
.Paranoid |||| 18% 49%
Schizoid |||||| 30% 53%
Schizotypal |||||||||||||||| 66% 53%
Antisocial |||||||||| 38% 47%
Borderline |||||| 26% 47%
Histrionic |||||||||||||| 54% 43%
Narcissistic |||||||||||| 50% 41%
Avoidant |||| 18% 39%
Dependent |||||||||||| 42% 37%
Obsessive-Compulsive |||||||||| 34% 40%
*scores on the right are the average web score
I'd say fairly innaccurate, except that I'm the most narcissistic and histrionic person around this forum currently measured.
Schizoid |||||| 30% 53%
Schizotypal |||||||||||||||| 66% 53%
Antisocial |||||||||| 38% 47%
Borderline |||||| 26% 47%
Histrionic |||||||||||||| 54% 43%
Narcissistic |||||||||||| 50% 41%
Avoidant |||| 18% 39%
Dependent |||||||||||| 42% 37%
Obsessive-Compulsive |||||||||| 34% 40%
*scores on the right are the average web score
I'd say fairly innaccurate, except that I'm the most narcissistic and histrionic person around this forum currently measured.
just wait till you hit puberty
When someone says I'm good-looking, I says to them, I says, "Go to hell."
When someone says I'm good-looking, I says to them, I says, "Go to hell."
Does your mother or other family members think your good looking?
