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October 16th 2010, 02:47 AM
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Icesaber
Peasant He/Him New Zealand
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Its not about evolving from apes. That statement is incorrect. It is all about evolving from a common ancestor. Exactly what who this ancestor was is debated and also when the line branched off.

I disagree that there is not conclusive evidence for evolution. Where did you get all your chance figures from? It has nothing to do with chance, only natural selection; survival of the fittest.

There are fossil records of many different species of bipedal primates some even with their own genus. These include primates such as Australopithecus boisei, A.robustus who were the "brutes" of their time. Then there were primates such as A. africanus and probably most importantly A.aferensis also know as Lucy (after the beatles song by the way ) . These were the less physically powerful but more adaptive. i.e. a jack of all trades.

Although there are many different models for evolution it is widely accepted that Lucy's species was the one that survived because of its ability to adapt to the changing environment and evolve from there. The rest as they say is history.

@ Wongo: Correct me if I am wrong but I believed it was the other way around that whales, as such, evolved from land based animals. Anyway, you must remember that this, as you said is over billions of years as speciation occurred. That is a long time and it's not like they suddenly woke up and they were completely different. An analogy could be of giraffes; they may have started out with relatively short necks. Ones with really short necks however would have died out while ones with longer ones survived. This is natural selection and eventually becomes speciation over time. If this happens over billions of years the desirable characteristics will carry on and the rest will die off.

Edit: Apes would have been apart of another successful branch that derived from the common ancestor.