MTG Article Contest Controversy
Well I have a lot of excitement to report. Both good and bad.
First of all they printed my article. It's up on the front page today;
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/
Skim to the end and note how I finished it.
What really is amazing me and causing me to constantly check their forums is what happened soon after the article went public. [u]It seems the same kiddie power-players that have ruined gaming both console and PC are infesting the MTG community as well[/u]. I realised that before Pokemon and Yu-gi-Oh were geared towards children, but as can be told by their waxing and waning popularity I never considered their childish fans a threat.
Basically people are charging me with stupidity while others are rushing to my aid. Judging by the quality of the posts the people putting me down are newer, younger players who only play to win and are the type I've hated meeting at tournaments;
[quote="Console Kiddie"]i hate to say it but this article is pure trash[/quote]
Note the lack of capitalization and a period at the end.
The ones being polite are older, seasoned players who've been around long enough to have played when before it was game more than a competition;
[quote]Long time reader, first (or second) time poster here. Sorry my introductory post was defensive in nature, but folks don't have the right to be pricks around here - whether you fall on the "right" side or the "wrong" side of a debate.
To the author - Thanks for trying out something original. I'm a little tired of playing against the same ole netdecks time after time, and listening to the same "experts" give their redundant and self-indulgent analysis. I've seen it (and heard it) all before. *Nothing* raises my opinion of a gamer more than originality.
Kudos for the effort, and ignore the crowd that Magic unfortunately tends to attract - The crowd that enjoys being big stuff on gaming message boards and at your local card shop because there's no other facet of life where they're a big deal.
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[quote]I would much rather read an article about an original deck idea than a hundred articles about the latest tier 1 decks and the minute changes that were made to them. I started out playing Magic about the time of Fallen Empires and I remember having a great time playing many different original decks. Thinking outside the box is what makes Magic. Many of the great Japanese deck designers think this way and their decks are being net-decked constantly. It's sad that many Magic players are unwilling to put their reputation and rating on the line to comeup with something even somewhat original. Good job Vault Dweller! You've put your reputation on the line and you've presented something different.
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It even came to me pointing such out;
[quote="The Vault Dweller"]I remember a time when MTG players were people who gathered at Comic Book shops and played fun friendly games that all ended well. Certainly everyone wanted to win, but we always had fun and were polite.
Then the internet came...everyone was awed by the power of its infinite and immediate knowledge, but with such power came the abuse.
Players stopped making and testing their own decks. They preferred to take their chances with builds found on the internet proven to work with high rankings. Since they didn't have the fun of playing to see how a deck would work they then only cared to win.
Thats when everyone stopped smiling. They only left happy if they left a winner. The creative examples of unique deck formulas that left players discussing he use of cards turned into sarcastic fits of arguing to prove you had better match-ups with something that didn't belong to you.
With that in mind let me just say that I remember when this site had two new articles a day. Now it usually only gets one. Also alot more of the articles are personal opinions and event reports. I enjoy reading those, but wouldn't it just be more personal to go yourself? Really the articles that matter are deck discussions. It never ceases to amaze me how creative and practical people can be especially when they do both at once with mere garbage rares or unmentionable commons.
I submitted this article hoping people would be surprised at the use of such under-used cards and maybe debate their chances overrall. Not to trash something you merely looked at and threw away as some curiosity.
I suppose you'd rather read one article a day rather than two? Even putting down a bad article is better than not having one to read since lessons can be learned from bad decks as well as good ones. Not that I think my deck is bad.
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Well I have to admit though the critics should hurt I honestly couldn't care less seeing that they are obviously little more than ignorant trolls and in fact I'm more happy for it since I can finally vent some of the frustration I've had with all the forms of entertainment I enjoy being so diluded from such stupidity.
Sincerely,
The Vault Dweller
First of all they printed my article. It's up on the front page today;
http://magic.tcgplayer.com/
Skim to the end and note how I finished it.
What really is amazing me and causing me to constantly check their forums is what happened soon after the article went public. [u]It seems the same kiddie power-players that have ruined gaming both console and PC are infesting the MTG community as well[/u]. I realised that before Pokemon and Yu-gi-Oh were geared towards children, but as can be told by their waxing and waning popularity I never considered their childish fans a threat.
Basically people are charging me with stupidity while others are rushing to my aid. Judging by the quality of the posts the people putting me down are newer, younger players who only play to win and are the type I've hated meeting at tournaments;
[quote="Console Kiddie"]i hate to say it but this article is pure trash[/quote]
Note the lack of capitalization and a period at the end.
The ones being polite are older, seasoned players who've been around long enough to have played when before it was game more than a competition;
[quote]Long time reader, first (or second) time poster here. Sorry my introductory post was defensive in nature, but folks don't have the right to be pricks around here - whether you fall on the "right" side or the "wrong" side of a debate.
To the author - Thanks for trying out something original. I'm a little tired of playing against the same ole netdecks time after time, and listening to the same "experts" give their redundant and self-indulgent analysis. I've seen it (and heard it) all before. *Nothing* raises my opinion of a gamer more than originality.
Kudos for the effort, and ignore the crowd that Magic unfortunately tends to attract - The crowd that enjoys being big stuff on gaming message boards and at your local card shop because there's no other facet of life where they're a big deal.
[/quote]
[quote]I would much rather read an article about an original deck idea than a hundred articles about the latest tier 1 decks and the minute changes that were made to them. I started out playing Magic about the time of Fallen Empires and I remember having a great time playing many different original decks. Thinking outside the box is what makes Magic. Many of the great Japanese deck designers think this way and their decks are being net-decked constantly. It's sad that many Magic players are unwilling to put their reputation and rating on the line to comeup with something even somewhat original. Good job Vault Dweller! You've put your reputation on the line and you've presented something different.
[/quote]
It even came to me pointing such out;
[quote="The Vault Dweller"]I remember a time when MTG players were people who gathered at Comic Book shops and played fun friendly games that all ended well. Certainly everyone wanted to win, but we always had fun and were polite.
Then the internet came...everyone was awed by the power of its infinite and immediate knowledge, but with such power came the abuse.
Players stopped making and testing their own decks. They preferred to take their chances with builds found on the internet proven to work with high rankings. Since they didn't have the fun of playing to see how a deck would work they then only cared to win.
Thats when everyone stopped smiling. They only left happy if they left a winner. The creative examples of unique deck formulas that left players discussing he use of cards turned into sarcastic fits of arguing to prove you had better match-ups with something that didn't belong to you.
With that in mind let me just say that I remember when this site had two new articles a day. Now it usually only gets one. Also alot more of the articles are personal opinions and event reports. I enjoy reading those, but wouldn't it just be more personal to go yourself? Really the articles that matter are deck discussions. It never ceases to amaze me how creative and practical people can be especially when they do both at once with mere garbage rares or unmentionable commons.
I submitted this article hoping people would be surprised at the use of such under-used cards and maybe debate their chances overrall. Not to trash something you merely looked at and threw away as some curiosity.
I suppose you'd rather read one article a day rather than two? Even putting down a bad article is better than not having one to read since lessons can be learned from bad decks as well as good ones. Not that I think my deck is bad.
[/quote]
Well I have to admit though the critics should hurt I honestly couldn't care less seeing that they are obviously little more than ignorant trolls and in fact I'm more happy for it since I can finally vent some of the frustration I've had with all the forms of entertainment I enjoy being so diluded from such stupidity.
Sincerely,
The Vault Dweller
All I know about MTG is that it's like crack for some people. 30, 40lb of cards is ridiculous.
Looking over the comments, it seems like people think that some frequently-used decks will beat yours. I think that's a valid complaint. Sure, creativity is good, but only if it gives you some advantage.
On the other hand, having an article about a slightly inferior deck really doesn't hurt anyone, so I'm not sure why people are being such enormous tools about it. In the end, you just have to ignore the "OMG tihs dekc sukcs" people and listen to the ones giving you constructive criticism.
On the other hand, having an article about a slightly inferior deck really doesn't hurt anyone, so I'm not sure why people are being such enormous tools about it. In the end, you just have to ignore the "OMG tihs dekc sukcs" people and listen to the ones giving you constructive criticism.
