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Non dink question, very weird one.

February 4th 2003, 05:27 AM
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I know that bits are 01010101 or 00000001 or 10101100 but what happens if we make 00101002

with 0+1+2 instead of 0+1
February 4th 2003, 05:38 AM
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Christiaan
Bard They/Them Netherlands
Lazy bum 
: I know that bits are 01010101 or 00000001 or 10101100 but what happens if we make 00101002

: with 0+1+2 instead of 0+1

then it wouldn't be binary anymore, now would it?
February 4th 2003, 07:49 AM
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Simeon
Peasant He/Him Netherlands
Any fool can use a computer. Many do. 
: : I know that bits are 01010101 or 00000001 or 10101100 but what happens if we make 00101002

: : with 0+1+2 instead of 0+1

: then it wouldn't be binary anymore, now would it?

It's 0 or 1, that's binary. I don't know what you're trying to do/create/programm but it probably doesn't have any use

February 4th 2003, 09:04 AM
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Phoenix
Peasant He/Him Norway
Back from the ashes 
: I know that bits are 01010101 or 00000001 or 10101100 but what happens if we make 00101002

: with 0+1+2 instead of 0+1

eh... that's not how bits work at all.

The intel bit system, anyway, works like so:

the rightmost bit is worth 2^0, the second rightmost is worth 2^1, the third rightmost is worth 2^2, and so on. And that makes

01010101 = 2^0 + 2^2 + 2^4 + 2^6 = 1 + 4 + 16 + 64 = 85

00000001 = 2^0 = 1

10101100 = 2^2 + 2^3 + 2^5 + 2^8 = 4 + 8 + 32 + 128 = 172

and if you didn't know, the system is based on the on/off system, where there can only be two states (obviously), on or off, 1 or 0, so what are you really suggesting?
February 4th 2003, 03:02 PM
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Listen, I know how binary works...

Its 0 ( off ) or 1 ( on )

but if we do this?

its 0 ( off ) or 1 ( below 0.1 W ) 2 ( above 0.2 W )

( im talking about the electricity )

What happens, if we make that, with the HD's and Processor speeds?
February 4th 2003, 03:06 PM
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Phoenix
Peasant He/Him Norway
Back from the ashes 
: Listen, I know how binary works...

: Its 0 ( off ) or 1 ( on )

: but if we do this?

: its 0 ( off ) or 1 ( below 0.1 W ) 2 ( above 0.2 W )

: ( im talking about the electricity )

: What happens, if we make that, with the HD's and Processor speeds?

What good would it do? What point would it make?
February 4th 2003, 03:29 PM
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redink1
King He/Him United States bloop
A mother ducking wizard 
So, you want to go from Binary to Trinary (or whatever)?. What would it do to Hard Drives and Processor Speeds?

Well... its like, saying you want to create another new elemental particle, which we'll call a Chicken Nugget, that is half-positive and half-negative (but not neutral). So then there would be 4 basic elemental particles: The Chicken Nugget, Electron, Proton, and Neutron. What would that do to human beings? Well... you can't really think of it like that. You'd have to re-design the everything from scratch... every compound, every atom, everything.

Going to a Trinary system would be similar. You couldn't really compare the speed of a Trinary processor with a Binary one... they would just be different. Somethings would run faster in Binary, some would run faster in Trinary.

As for Hard Drives... they'd have to be made from scratch. If I recall how hard drives basically work, they store a positive or negative magnetic force in the platter... there is no in between. So you'd have to find some sort of material that could have three different settings... and so on. A complete pain in the ass.

Anyway, its kinda interesting, because the next great computers (in many, many years) are going to be Quantum Computers. Each quantum bit (like a really, really, really tiny particles that make up electrons/protons/neutrons... maybe) can store 4 different values. Everything will need to be made from scratch... but a qubit would make things faster and such.

A Trinary system wouldn't be very good either... people are taught Base 10 mathematics, like 4 + 9 = 13. That is relatively easy to go down to Base 2 and Base 4... they're all even, so it makes some things similar. But, Base 3 is odd... and everything would just be weird, and computer scientists' brains would be exploding. Exploding brains aren't the best thing to have as a side effect.

War! >

--redink1
February 4th 2003, 08:52 PM
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Tyrsis
Peasant She/Her Russia
 
: : Listen, I know how binary works...

: : Its 0 ( off ) or 1 ( on )

: : but if we do this?

: : its 0 ( off ) or 1 ( below 0.1 W ) 2 ( above 0.2 W )

: : ( im talking about the electricity )

: : What happens, if we make that, with the HD's and Processor speeds?

: What good would it do? What point would it make?

3-state chips were used long ago