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Dir.ff = black box - .bmp = al right

November 8th 2002, 11:57 PM
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Binirit
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I've made some new graphics. In .bmp they show up al right in the game, but when using ff.exe they have a black box around them in the game. I used the original ff.exe. Is that one of the flaws of that programme? If I use the one by Redink1, will they look al right? Or is something else wrong?
November 9th 2002, 12:28 AM
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ehasl
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Don't use the Dir.ff format.

It doesn't even protect your graphics very much, 'cause those who are really interested will have "un-dir.ff" programs (check Phoenix' site, http://www.snowcrystal.tk/. Ehh.. There isn't actually an un-dir.ff program there yet, but still, read the "Current projects" section).
November 9th 2002, 09:19 AM
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Binirit
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: Don't use the Dir.ff format.

: It doesn't even protect your graphics very much, 'cause those who are really interested will have "un-dir.ff" programs (check Phoenix' site, http://www.snowcrystal.tk/. Ehh.. There isn't actually an un-dir.ff program there yet, but still, read the "Current projects" section).

I'm not doing it to protect them, but to make it a smaller file. Now it's cool, since they're only a couple of them, so .bmp is good, but what if you would have many?
November 9th 2002, 09:48 AM
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Paul
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: : Don't use the Dir.ff format.

: : It doesn't even protect your graphics very much, 'cause those who are really interested will have "un-dir.ff" programs (check Phoenix' site, http://www.snowcrystal.tk/. Ehh.. There isn't actually an un-dir.ff program there yet, but still, read the "Current projects" section).

: I'm not doing it to protect them, but to make it a smaller file. Now it's cool, since they're only a couple of them, so .bmp is good, but what if you would have many?

I'm not certain, but it may be because you used a black background. I think there may be some problem with that, try a white background. (If your sprite is partly white, you may be out of luck)
November 9th 2002, 02:19 PM
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Binirit
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: : : Don't use the Dir.ff format.

: : : It doesn't even protect your graphics very much, 'cause those who are really interested will have "un-dir.ff" programs (check Phoenix' site, http://www.snowcrystal.tk/. Ehh.. There isn't actually an un-dir.ff program there yet, but still, read the "Current projects" section).

: : I'm not doing it to protect them, but to make it a smaller file. Now it's cool, since they're only a couple of them, so .bmp is good, but what if you would have many?

: I'm not certain, but it may be because you used a black background. I think there may be some problem with that, try a white background. (If your sprite is partly white, you may be out of luck)

I did use a white background, that's the strange thing about it. When using .bmp's they show up al right in the game, but as .ff's, they don't. The sprite is blue, so no white's.
November 9th 2002, 09:31 PM
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WC
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First, dink sometimes has problems with the nice dir.ff format and cause frick up's. Second, people say that they want it for smaller file sizes. That wont happen. Dir.ff doesn't compess AT ALL, it just sticks all the files together in a nice table, how nice. Last, it doesn't protect your files at all. Anyone with a hex editor can crack it in 5 seconds and have all the .bmp's.

I think Bin's problem is that the palette isn't EXACTLY the same as the dink palette and therefore causing some screw up graphics (which is common with dir.ff).

--WC
November 10th 2002, 03:16 AM
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Binirit
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: First, dink sometimes has problems with the nice dir.ff format and cause frick up's. Second, people say that they want it for smaller file sizes. That wont happen. Dir.ff doesn't compess AT ALL, it just sticks all the files together in a nice table, how nice. Last, it doesn't protect your files at all. Anyone with a hex editor can crack it in 5 seconds and have all the .bmp's.

: I think Bin's problem is that the palette isn't EXACTLY the same as the dink palette and therefore causing some screw up graphics (which is common with dir.ff).

: --WC

I'll give that a try. Thanks.

November 10th 2002, 03:26 AM
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ehasl
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You must use PainShop Pro, or another advanced graphics program, to change black with white in the palette. That might work, but i still don't see why you want to use Dir.ff. It does "nothing".
November 10th 2002, 07:28 AM
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redink1
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: That wont happen. Dir.ff doesn't compess AT ALL, it just sticks all the files together in a nice table, how nice. Last, it doesn't protect your files at all. Anyone with a hex editor can crack it in 5 seconds and have all the .bmp's.

Silly rabbit.

True, the dir.ff format by itself doesn't compress AT ALL, but a zipped dir.ff file will always be smaller than a zipped collection of the original bmps.

Why? Typical zip compression compresses each file individually, looking for repetitious bytes. With a dir.ff file, it finds much more repetitious bytes, because all of the bmps are in the same file.

Also, using a hex-editor to extract bmps is a complete pain... I know I could do it, but I've never been tempted because it simply isn't worth the effort.
November 10th 2002, 11:29 AM
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Binirit
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November 11th 2002, 07:02 AM
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ehasl
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But if you are still going to release the source files, it would fill more space on the servers anyway, and those who liked the graphics in the D-Mod will have to download them separately... Everything should be open-sourced!
November 11th 2002, 01:22 PM
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Binirit
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: But if you are still going to release the source files, it would fill more space on the servers anyway, and those who liked the graphics in the D-Mod will have to download them separately... Everything should be open-sourced!

Heh, there are only 3 new graphics, and those will be in .bmp. (Because dir.ff makes them with a black box) The others are just modified old ones, just colour change, so no need to tire you out with extra downloading time for those.

Unless of course YOU want them.