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Fallout NV

April 29th 2016, 07:47 AM
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Bluedy
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I'd like to talk with you guys about Fallout and know about your opinions on many different topics.
So first of all, I never played any Fallout. Only New Vegas a little bit because I heard it was better than 3(I'd like to know about your opinion on this too).
First of all, just like Skyrim, Oblivion and even Morrowind, I like to mod the shit out of games until I make my gameplaying experience as comfortable as possible. That including, body mods, face mods(ESPECIALLY THOSE, LIKE, THE CARACTER CREATION IN NV IS TOTAL SHIT, AND YOU CAN'T AVOID LOOKING LIKE A 40 YEAR OLD) and so on. So mods for games are a big thing for me. Fallout NV HAS to have cool mods on the Nexus if I wanna play it.
Another thing I dont like about fallout is the (as they call it) Vault-Tec Assisted Targeting System. I mean, that makes the game seem SO easy! If I could I would deactivate it(and theres probaly a mod for that, but it would probably break the game)
So all in all, dinkers, if any of you played Fallout NV or Fallout 3, please tell me, why you liked it, or if you played both, why one is better than the other. And PLEASE, tell me about your favourite mod.
April 29th 2016, 11:16 AM
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Fallout New Vegas has much better writing than FO3. However, the latter gets shit on a lot for being the first Bethesda game in the series, and completely changing the type of game (3D shooter instead of isometric turn-based). As far as individual games are concerned, I actually enjoyed FO3 more of the two. The locations are more interesting, and exploration is more fun. Basically the whole open-world sandbox shtick Bethesda is known for. But both are good, so whatevs.

Oh my god, mods. So many mods. There's even another website dedicated entirely to sex mods. Personally I mostly stick to quality of life and immersive mods (being able to see your own feet when looking down, being able to physically lie on beds, that sort of thing), so I don't know any good ones that overhaul the gameplay, but you will want to get bug fixes. There are so many crashes and infinite loading screens in NV, it'll drive you nuts sooner or later.
April 29th 2016, 12:17 PM
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Leprochaun
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I have both for the 360 so I don't know anything about mods. 3 was really fun for early on, whereas NV was more fun later on. I really enjoyed both of them though.

You don't really need to disable VATS, you can just choose to ignore it. I often forgot about it when I played.
April 29th 2016, 03:23 PM
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Skurn
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they're both just about the same except new vegas adds the colour orange, more weapons, and invisible barriers all over the place that artificially try to railroad you into going where the devs want.
April 29th 2016, 03:27 PM
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Bluedy
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There's even another website dedicated entirely to sex mods

I mod the shit out of skyrim ,so I had the chance to come aross L0v3r5L4b(I changed a few letters for censoring)

However, the latter gets shit on a lot for being the first Bethesda game in the series, and completely changing the type of game (3D shooter instead of isometric turn-based)

I tried fallout 1, and I can say I'd rather play Fallout 3. I think it got a lot of shit just because of the sudden change in gameplay.

being able to see your own feet when looking down, being able to physically lie on beds, that sort of thing

I make sure I always install the first one, but the second one takes too much time when I just want to sleep, so I dont really install it.

You don't really need to disable VATS, you can just choose to ignore it. I often forgot about it when I played.

I know but I just KNOW THAT ITS THERE AND ITS JUST WAITING FOR ME TO PRESS V!

3 was really fun for early on, whereas NV was more fun later on

Exactly, the time a game was released changes its feeling a little bit

they're both just about the same except new vegas adds the colour orange, more weapons, and invisible barriers all over the place that artificially try to railroad you into going where the devs want.

That's one thing I hate about games -_-
April 29th 2016, 07:52 PM
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I tried fallout 1, and I can say I'd rather play Fallout 3. I think it got a lot of shit just because of the sudden change in gameplay.

Fallout 1 has aged quite badly. I've gone back to it a few times over the years, and I could swear the interface's gotten more jarring every time. If you stick with it, though, the game's still got one of the best stories and atmosphere in any RPG.
April 29th 2016, 08:06 PM
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Skurn
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Fallout 1 has aged quite badly.

how about baldur's gate?
April 30th 2016, 01:23 PM
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SabreTrout
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Far worse than Baldur's Gate.
April 30th 2016, 01:55 PM
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DackFight
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I have likes and dislikes about both games. Also I don't mod my games so that can't be a factor for me. They are close to the same to me otherwise, but I can't really pick a favourite from them.

NV Does Better In
* Difficulty (Even when I did the perk bug)
* Gambling (Until I get kicked out of the casinos)
* Companions (Having ED-E and Boone Or Tabitha is always fun, whether from having my buds around or having grandma saying hello to all my new wasteland raider buddies)
* Area (There are less noticeable invisible walls to me and it seems like the place is bigger, if emptier times)
* Safe houses (I loved Wadsworth's jokes and the bobble head display, but I always had to go there if I wanted to drop off my treasures, while in NV, I can go from New Vegas or Novac (I go there more))
* Comedy (I loved the Easter eggs in the first 2 and the Wild Wasteland Perk allows me some of it, I would prefer for it to be an option instead of a trait though)
* DLCs (I haven't fully played them, but the stories and morals they teach are great, and they seem longer)
* Challenges (Adds more to do for me and I love getting more perks, but the Super mutant one is iffy)

Fallout 3 Does Better In
* External Levelling of SPECIAL (The bobble-heads are more challenging then buying implants, also 'Gotta Catch Em All'
* Unique Quests (Wasteland Survivor guide is more memorable to me than Boone's stuff)
* Schematic Weapons (I don't recall they are in NV, or at least build-able)
* Radio (It only gets this since, I really love the adventures of Daring Dashwood, but the songs are about even to me in both games)
May 2nd 2016, 09:55 AM
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Bluedy
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NV Does Better In
* Difficulty (Even when I did the perk bug)


I dont like using bugs in games for my advantage, so I dont know if this helps me xD

Gambling (Until I get kicked out of the casinos)

I have yet to try it

Companions (Having ED-E and Boone Or Tabitha is always fun, whether from having my buds around or having grandma saying hello to all my new wasteland raider buddies)

I'm more of a...solo..person? I dont really like companions. Only if they are sexy.. or if they feel like human beings other than giving them commands. Other than that, they annoy me, they block my way, and they are just annyoing pieces of shit.

Area (There are less noticeable invisible walls to me and it seems like the place is bigger, if emptier times)

Well..Skurn kind of said otherwise, so I'll have to see it myself.

Safe houses (I loved Wadsworth's jokes and the bobble head display, but I always had to go there if I wanted to drop off my treasures, while in NV, I can go from New Vegas or Novac (I go there more))

Still have to see what they are about

Comedy (I loved the Easter eggs in the first 2 and the Wild Wasteland Perk allows me some of it, I would prefer for it to be an option instead of a trait though)

UGH! There aren't many games that have actual funny comedic jokes. I mean, all I'm saying is I'd rather choose Undertale over any other game if I want a funny game. Although NV isn't JUST about comedy, so it's understandable.

Challenges (Adds more to do for me and I love getting more perks, but the Super mutant one is iffy)

IF they actually exist, then NV is 200% more enjoyable for me.

Fallout 3 Does Better In
* External Levelling of SPECIAL (The bobble-heads are more challenging then buying implants, also 'Gotta Catch Em All'
* Unique Quests (Wasteland Survivor guide is more memorable to me than Boone's stuff)
* Schematic Weapons (I don't recall they are in NV, or at least build-able)
* Radio (It only gets this since, I really love the adventures of Daring Dashwood, but the songs are about even to me in both games)


Welp, seems Fallout 3 really IS crappier. But imma try them both and see for myself. A lot of times it turns out I like lots of games many people dont.

May 2nd 2016, 05:26 PM
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Skurn
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I'm more of a...solo..person? I dont really like companions. Only if they are sexy.. or if they feel like human beings other than giving them commands. Other than that, they annoy me, they block my way, and they are just annyoing pieces of shit.


skyrim's companions are so ducking bad. they probably slapped the feature together in one night when they collectively remembered that party members are a thing. first you'll probably get is lydia who infamously gets in everyone's way and vanishes for no reason. then there's mjoll the lioness who comes with a free stalked named arin or whatever. in my save where i'm married to her, all she does is walk in place. she's totally borked. if a giant or some bandits show up, she keeps doing it. then me and what's his face who wants to be an adventurer fight them off. skyrim's a ducking piece of shit.

Well..Skurn kind of said otherwise, so I'll have to see it myself.

i don't think i've ever hit invisible walls in 3. if i did, it was shitty collision on objects. yeah, i remember. the capital city or whatever that has loads of rubble blocking your way. looks like you can climb it, but no. gotta find that one vague ducking path to the penis memorial.

in new giygas, the road to the city is full of death claws. "no problem! i'll just go around. there's a few hills above them that should work well." nope. the game wants you to go somewhere else. if you dare even try to choose your own path in a SANDBOX RPG, you'll get stuck in a bunch of invisible diarrhea. i looked for a mod to get myself out. there are none. i eventually got out somehow. that's one of the first things you do in the game. get stuck because artificial shit. other than that, i don't think i ran into walls. map borders don't count.

UGH! There aren't many games that have actual funny comedic jokes. I mean, all I'm saying is I'd rather choose Undertale over any other game if I want a funny game. Although NV isn't JUST about comedy, so it's understandable.

not very related, but i hate the design of the fallout poster boy. so. obnoxious. i feel like he's supposed to be some kind of funny thing judging by the CONSTANT SMILE AND THE THUMBS UP AND THE PERK AND ATTRIBUTE PORTRAITS OF HIM. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.

IF they actually exist, then NV is 200% more enjoyable for me.

there are challenges. somewhere. in the pip boy's 1000 menus.

May 3rd 2016, 08:21 AM
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Bluedy
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skyrim's companions are so ducking bad. they probably slapped the feature together in one night when they collectively remembered that party members are a thing. first you'll probably get is lydia who infamously gets in everyone's way and vanishes for no reason. then there's mjoll the lioness who comes with a free stalked named arin or whatever. in my save where i'm married to her, all she does is walk in place. she's totally borked. if a giant or some bandits show up, she keeps doing it. then me and what's his face who wants to be an adventurer fight them off. skyrim's a ducking piece of shit.


I killed Lydia near the 3 stones you pass by at the beginning of the game. But a huntress saw me. So I killed her too. And I threw both bodies in the lake. And now they are floating across Skyrim.
Nah but really. Skyrim is 20% boring and annyoing for me because of the colors you see everywhere. The game is SO GRAY(or grey, whatevs). I'm not saying the game is gray, as in, gray is a sad color, so the game is sad. I'm saying Skyrim shouldn't be so grey because it makes the game seem boring. It might be a stupid reason, but eh.

not very related, but i hate the design of the fallout poster boy. so. obnoxious. i feel like he's supposed to be some kind of funny thing judging by the CONSTANT SMILE AND THE THUMBS UP AND THE PERK AND ATTRIBUTE PORTRAITS OF HIM. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.

Mnnyeaaah. But I really like the four eyes perk image

there are challenges. somewhere. in the pip boy's 1000 menus.

OKAY. I'M JUST GONNA PUT IT OUT THERE. THE PIP BOY IS THE STUPIEDST SHIT THERE IS IN FALLOUT. IF I WANNA SPEND MY WHOLE GAME STRUGGLING TO LOOK ON A SMALL ASS SCREEN WITH EVEN SMALLER BUTTONS I'M GONNA INSTALL A DUCKING MOD, AIGHT?! WHEN I PRESS TAB, I WANNA SEE A MENU. PERIOD!

May 3rd 2016, 08:52 AM
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Skurn
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I killed Lydia near the 3 stones you pass by at the beginning of the game. But a huntress saw me. So I killed her too. And I threw both bodies in the lake. And now they are floating across Skyrim.
Nah but really. Skyrim is 20% boring and annyoing for me because of the colors you see everywhere. The game is SO GRAY(or grey, whatevs). I'm not saying the game is gray, as in, gray is a sad color, so the game is sad. I'm saying Skyrim shouldn't be so grey because it makes the game seem boring. It might be a stupid reason, but eh.


it's either grey, brown, or an autumnal setting. morrowind had brown, grey...uh...oblivion had green and grey and brown. ok, these guys are boring world designers for sure.

Mnnyeaaah. But I really like the four eyes perk image

definitely more tolerable.

OKAY. I'M JUST GONNA PUT IT OUT THERE. THE PIP BOY IS THE STUPIEDST SHIT THERE IS IN FALLOUT. IF I WANNA SPEND MY WHOLE GAME STRUGGLING TO LOOK ON A SMALL ASS SCREEN WITH EVEN SMALLER BUTTONS I'M GONNA INSTALL A DUCKING MOD, AIGHT?! WHEN I PRESS TAB, I WANNA SEE A MENU. PERIOD!

remember when bethesda forgot that people give a shit about them because of PC modding and ignored the fact that their games are effectively PC games with console ports and then designed a horrible UI for skyrim where it can sometimes go into controller mode even if you don't have a controller plugged in, so you have to use the arrow keys to navigate and also there are lots of times you click on an option and it selects something else sometimes several options away from what you wanted and also using the contoller isn't too bad but for duck's sake, if there's no controller plugged in, why does this happen the duck did they do.

time to turn this into a "skyrim is broken as hell" thread.

i once fell through a mountain and died.
May 3rd 2016, 09:58 AM
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Bluedy
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it's either grey, brown, or an autumnal setting. morrowind had brown, grey...uh...oblivion had green and grey and brown. ok, these guys are boring world designers for sure.

Gr(e or a) y and brown are BORING ASS COLO(U)RS.

also there are lots of times you click on an option and it selects something else sometimes several options away from what you wanted.

I once pirated an older version of Skyrim and encountered this bug. Then I bought Skyrim Legendary on steam. And it didn't get fixed ..... LIKE HOW THE FUK CAN YOU MESS UP SUCH A SIMPLE FUKcING THING AS SELECTING AN OPTION?!

i once fell through a mountain and died.

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May 3rd 2016, 10:45 AM
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Skurn
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I once pirated an older version of Skyrim and encountered this bug. Then I bought Skyrim Legendary on steam. And it didn't get fixed ..... LIKE HOW THE FUK CAN YOU MESS UP SUCH A SIMPLE FUKcING THING AS SELECTING AN OPTION?!

modern bethesda's code is "let's make a game, ignore 99% of the bugs, let the community fix it for us, then try to transform them into greedy dinks by dangling modding revenue in front of their noses."

i hope to duck they don't succeed. then, on top of them not having to actually finish their games, they'll be using the modding community as a cheaper alternative to their actual employees. i wonder how horrendous it must be to be a QA tester for those scumbags. i know that being QA for big companies means little, but it's gotta mean a whole let less to a company who doesn't care if literally thousands of errors are present in their games forever.

it's got to be a disaster for them. they have to explore every single bit of a glitchy world, report a bunch of glitches, and have most of them ignored. as a normal-ass player, i can run into a big list of glitches without doing anything out of the ordinary like shoving plates at a wall. then again, since they're so ignored, they could probably just get away with going through just the main quest and ignoring everything else. maybe they're also just sick of them. who knows what's going on there that's making their games so bad lately.
May 3rd 2016, 11:26 AM
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Bluedy
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Exactly! I mean, bro, in Oblivion there is a simple glitch where you can double an item, and it takes you 5 seconds to do it. The game testers for Bethesda MAY have tested every single thing that happens when you put certain clothes on or off in certain rooms and that kind of stuff, but how come they didn't play around with the menu and the inventory?! I bet if they played around with the menu for at least 1 HOUR, they would've found the duplication bug. LIKE,YOU ARE A BIG COMPANY FOR MAKING COOL GAMES, BUT YOU GOT A REPUTATION FOR GLITCHY GAMES. So yeah, Bethesda is known not only for their talent of creating beautiful, massive worlds with complex stories, but also, the talent and skill of being blind and not seeing obvious glitches that are obvious. -_-