The Dink Network

I've found a much better community, with more atmosphere, users, and friendlier services. I can't stand all the spam that has gone around here, and the accusations of random users being me. If you wanna find me (doubt anyone here'll want to), I'm here.

If this thread gets turned into a flame-war like everything else lately, I'll just leave without a second thought.

Thank you.

Been there, done that - they're just not as creative
Ed. Make sure you check back in so you can grab my Dmod when it's finished

It's like my birthday! Except that it's all a big, fat lie.

Take care.

Not sure whether to say something like , or so I'll stick with !

Wherever you are, let's hope it's good for you and everyone else involved!

Ok so it turned out more than ...

You really like smilies, don't you.

Peace!

War!

--Meta

Find someone who cares.

This is a forum, filled with people you haven't met or have any attachment to.

Pokes Wongo, here's one, I care!

Ok... so here is a young fella who made some (yes huge) mistakes when he first joined the forum but he has made a supreme effort to change his behavior AND despite the continual goading and comments, this change has been sustained.

Time to move on aye - let it go!

Well said. What MsDink has said is absolutely (ahem) right.

Ok... so here is a young fella who made some (yes huge) mistakes when he first joined the forum but he has made a supreme effort to change his behavior AND despite the continual goading and comments, this change has been sustained.

That's what I thought. But he'll back-stab, disappoint or just insult you sooner or later.

Besides, the mistakes he made are not in the past. He's still making those. And even if he didn't, the past mistakes were so huge that they are still effecting the present. So in my already known opinion, Skorn can go suck monkey balls that have been stuck in his own anus for the past century.

I don't think there's anything wrong with Absolution nowadays. As MsDink stated, he have changed in some really good ways. Few of us were perfect when we first joined (for example, you started a thread about that recently, Skull). I don't know why some of you keep insulting him for every single comment he makes. Sure, some of the posts are annoying, but who doesn't post annoying comments sometimes.

I've found a much better community, with more atmosphere, users, and friendlier services. I can't stand all the spam that has gone around here, and the accusations of random users being me

Marpro, this thread is a perfect example of what his posts are like. He seemed more matured recently, but has just fallen back to his old self again. That post is pretty much insulting towards this network and all it's users. And as far as I know, there has not been a single accusation of "random users" being him, who have NOT turned out to be him.

You guys fight too much

Here now, to make a post declaring that you would move on is not exactly spam. Perhaps he had invested a lot of emotion into TDN (for it is a rare place), so to declare departure is perfectly understandable... he wishes to guage reactions, his unconscious thoughts want him to stay here, so they drive him to make this post, in the hopes of sympathetic response that will give him reason to stay.

*falls drunkenly into nearby shrubbery*

I don't know why some of you keep insulting him for every single comment he makes. Sure, some of the posts are annoying, but who doesn't post annoying comments sometimes. Well said Marpro!!

...at least he isnt telling everyone to suck discusting body parts all the time like SOME here... *coff* thats getting so bloody old and not the slightest bit funny in any way! Maybe people should look at themselves before running others down... just saying

The only thing getting old is you, MsDink.

Technically Skull, everything is always getting older every second

Well, technically there is no time. So nothing gets older, just changes. That's not the case for MsDink though.

technically there is no time
Doesn't that mean that there is no distance, weight or language too, since those things are mere measures also?

Time doesn't even fall into the same category as distance, weight or language. So it was therefore a pretty dumb question.

Uh, here's another dumb question: Why exactly does it not fall in the same category?

Time does not fall into the same category because you can measure distance with a tape-measure, weight with a pair of scales, language with... uh... a dictionary(?), and you can't measure time with anything.

Clock. Calendar. The Sun. The Stone-henge. The Egyptian temples. Sundial. The seasons. The solstices. Lifespans. Sand-glasses. Hmmm, Time immeasurable?

Oh... Wait a minute... I didn't think that through very well, did I? Alright, nevermind, ignore me...

Well, technically Schnapper, you are correct. Realistically speaking, not. These all things are just made up by humans.

Oh dear; Skull, you just opened the Pandora's box, see reality...

Whoah... Measuring tape, scales and dictionaries are not made up by humans then?

Yes they were. But that doesn't mean they have anything to do with distance or anything else. We are too used to think everything we humans do is the only truth. Do you really think that the whatever created existence used measuring tapes? I doubt it. And in case you want me to explain better, it is impossible, because human brains are incapable of doing so.

But how do you know something/someone created the universe? It could've just been a giant coincidence, as science has tried to prove...

But your brain is so high and mighty to understand? My god, you are the only one that is a complete dick to people on this site...even though you like to accuse absolution. Sadly you are mistaken. You seem like the one person who starts the most fights since I've been on this site. Also everything you just said about time and all that other nonsense is complete rubbish. I think you just like to argue. Which is sad and I pity you.

I mean who really cares?

Yeh, open your eyes. Time will always be a part of our existence. It all must've started at one point in history (that science will find one day). A long time ago. Somewhere. And time will go on, forever and ever more.

It is always the same on this site. Everybody fights against me, yet they have nothing no proof nor facts. Which, I on the other hand, have already provided you with. Existence is no accident. There is far too much that makes sense to humans, and what makes sense to humans is about 0,001% of what makes sense realistically. Then it could also be that existence was not created, it has always been, but that is once again something a human brain is not capable to understand, endlessity.

Time is made up just like days, weeks, months and years. Do you really think those things were from the first place? No.

DrunkPunk, why don't you leave this site if I'm such a dick? I have never said anything such as that to you, but you just had to go and insult me, so I might as well become a real thorn on your sides.

Everybody has their opinion on existence. Leave it be, and respect it.

Now I will leave before I am accused of being a kiss-ass.

I believe that humans are born with the will to ponder things like this because the Big Bang left us with residue of the almighty God who started it all and died in the process. He did it because it was part of His eternal plan to create fools with absolute confidence of the cause to the universe, so that society as a whole would be forever divided in this matter because nobody would be willing to reconsider due to religious beliefs a.k.a. thickheadedness, even in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary of their own position. It is also only logical to assume that He had no love for humanity to begin with, since we originated from God, and are thus part of Him, and why would He have compassion and morals for something He knows is, at the end of the day, just Him? Therefore, since we are alone and have no friend in a Supreme Being of any sort, we must do everything we can to act against the will of this God, which is best achieved by joining me in the soon-to-come global revolution of anti-intendimentonism.

No, my beliefs do not contradict themselves, because things like "logic" and "contradiction" are nothing more than meaningless doctrines we have invented and by which we think. Which is, again, exactly what God intended us to do, to facilitate the realization of His long-term goals, which I cannot possibly predict because we are all imperfect. It is useless to demand me to be more coherent, since God did not provide me or anyone else for that matter with adequate intellect to see through His plans.

Maybe if you weren't so keen on hating just because it's me posting this, you would see that it makes perfect sense.

Now, respect it.

the answer is actually 42 - if anyone cares lol

The answer to life, universe and everything...

Looking for philosophic answers regarding 42 is actually a simple matter. For example, look at the common factors of 42 (2,3,6,7,14,21) and pick out the two most significant, six and seven. Seven is thought by many to be the perfect number. It is especially highly thought of in the Bible; the phrase "seven times seven" occurs over 30 times in the combined testaments, and the number seven is always connected with good. Meanwhile, six is seen as evil, as in the devil's number, mentioned above. We might see the multiplication of these two numbers as kind of a yin and yang, good and evil constantly at odds. Thus 42 could be the sum total of all good and evil.

Now a fair majority of you know my opinion on numbers so... nuff said

BAAHFFASAFASD!114 I hate it when the DN always comes down to discussions about existence, religion, how we got created and whatnot in most topics.

the answer is actually 42 - if anyone cares lol

Your post is the 42nd in this thread. Coincidence?!!

oooo 42nd post..... no I didnt look at that hehe - thats hilarious!!
Sorry to the spooks out there but yeah - total cooincidence

The Big Bang was not the death, but rather the moment when God was first given shape. Prior to this, space was not anti-matter as is typically presumed, but rather it was filled with a type of energy that, like light, had an innate "desire" to spread itself abroad. In the big bang, the energy formed the multiverses' two basic parts - the giver and the receiver, the god and the cosmos; god, which had an endless desire to give and the cosmos which had an endless emptiness that it desired to fill.

Regarding reality, I believe there are two types: romantic reality and fundamental reality. Romantic reality refers to individual perceptions "Girls with short hair are the hottest"

Just then they came in sight of thirty or forty windmills that rise from that plain. And no sooner did Don Quixote see them that he said to his squire, "Fortune is guiding our affairs better than we ourselves could have wished. Do you see over yonder, friend Sancho, thirty or forty hulking giants? I intend to do battle with them and slay them. With their spoils we shall begin to be rich for this is a righteous war and the removal of so foul a brood from off the face of the earth is a service God will bless." - From "Don Quixote" by Miguel de Cervantes 

The old herb-collecting women next door is a witch

Fundamental reality is the reality that is common to most people throughout the ages: fire will burn you if you touch it, horses cannot interbreed with gorillas, trees are several times taller then humans, we will die.

42... 42... Forty-two...

*Hypnotized*

As silly as it seems, time truly is made up by humans. We use it for better understanding and explaining motion. At least in physics

Cant believe that - the sun moves across the sky - light dark nah thats unnamed time - things would still age and so on (if we had missed naming it) so I think it was always there JMHO

Don't think of it as aging, think of it as changing.

Sorry skull, but that's far too optimistic... getting old is not really evolving, though there are a very few limited benefits that acompany old age such as wisdom and pension, but age occurs on a time-line and simply not believing in the existence of time is to stick your' head in the sand.

For example, Newton might have ignored the existance of gravity, but something is always pulling us down. Ultimately, motion through space proves the existence of time, for the simple reason that a rabbit running three metres from A will arrive at B before a Tortoise. they are travelling through space, but by the moment that the tortoise arrives at B, time has moved through both the rabbit and the tortoise.

A measure of 'time' is certainly useful for such things as velocity and helps with our understanding of our universe, but I'm still skeptical as to wether it even exists at all. After all, numbers don't exist, at least, not before we made them up. So we can compare time to math, we use math in pretty much everything we do, mostly just simple stuff, but the actual numbers don't exist within our physical dimensions, only in our minds. So maybe time is the same, something we humans have invented to help ourselves do the things we do?

0_o
How did we get from Skorn leaving to time and evolution and what not?

Cause off topic RULZ and "Pill-ies" drool

Well what exactly do you mean by time and numbers not existing?

To my mind, it's fairly obvious that the concept of "one, two, three" and all the names and rules (to an extent) are made up, but it's equally obvious that one banana is not the same as ten bananas.

Same thing with time. Days, months, years, nanoseconds and what have you are useful concepts based on something easy such as the sun going round. It's made up. But again, something happened then which is different to now, and some other things haven't happened yet. You can't say that that doesn't happen.

This is just my opinion, but if time existed then everything would happen according to an exact timeline at the exact rate as everything else... a fixed timeline... but in reality, and especially in relativity, time is seen as a more flexible thing, and that time as we know it doesn't or probably doesn't exist... Take this as an example: Mass alters the space around it, with gravity and whatever else. The physical velocity of a mass in motion not only alters space, but also 'time'. e.g. A set of twins born the exact same day are the same age throughout there lives, correct? Let's say, one of these twins has a normal job, grows up never leaving the earth. The other twin, however, becomes an astronaut, and goes on a space journey many lightyears away on a high-tech ship that can travel almost at the speed of light. If the destination is 2 lightyears away, the return trip would be 4 lightyears, and if he is travelling almost at the speed of light, you would assume it takes him a bit over 4 years to make the return trip. But on his arrival, he has not aged four years at all, and is in fact now quite younger than his twin whom never left earth. How is this possible, if time did exist as we know it?

Travelling at the speed of light? His bones would be like sponges...

Anyone ever done that so we know it actually happens and isnt just conjecture?

If he had kids he could come back younger than them LOL that would rattle a few cages

It's pretty much been tested and proven: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_time_dilation

This is an argument for the relativity of time, though, not the inexistence of it, isn't it?

I think the idea that time was invented by humans is silly as hell (not to mention incredibly pompous). Either it's just some semantic difference (it's not "time" it's just "change" or "sequence of events" or whatever), or the opinion of some deluded philosopher who spends too much time in a mouldy cellar, utterly out of touch with reality.

Think about it. Ageing of people is nothing more but changing atoms in our body. I think they found reason for ageing. Some part of DNA chain, I forgot... Everything is based on particles and their movements. Not atoms, because they are made from nucleus and electrons. Number of protons, neutrons and electrons in one atom define specific atom.

As for the gravity, no one knows what that really is. Why mass have gravity field?
We can easly figure direction, and inensity, but no one knows why it exists.

@... I suppose that gravity is akin to time - why and how does it exist? Yet it's effects are obvious and necessary; I suspect that something actually thought up some of these restrictions to keep the universe ticking and orderly

Are you talking about telomeres? because I saw a documentary on how they thought they were the cause of cell death after a certain number of divisions. Could be something else though.

Also, my point about relativity is that time can't exist in the way we see it, if at all. People say one event must happen after another because of time and stuff, but the example I stated seems to be a violation of this, unless we think about it differently.