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No they aren't. Other people might want to think about why people thought that it was true, while it was false, which is also part of trying to evaluate the nature of reality/existence.
That's the same process starting again for a new person, hence a new case. I meant for incidual cases/people.
While you might not have directly said, nor meant to say, nor ever thought about the whole idea of ever saying, nor ever thought about the whole idea of thinking about my brain going wrong, it made that impact on me. You say complex numbers aren't rational (your def), I think there is a perfectly valid reason for them to exist. That's almost (not entirely) like saying I'm not rational, while I have yet to see any proof that they cannot exist. Of course there are no real numbers (math def) that, when squared, are -1. That's the whole point of complex numbers anyway: providing a facility we hadn't had yet. But saying I'm not rational is like saying my brain doesn't think rational. And imho (in my humble opinion), my brain is going wrong when it doesn't think rational.
No it is like saying that one thought of your is not rational, not that you as a whole are. And that comment is not derogative or like saying that your brain is going wrong, since even people like myself that value rational thinking so highly sometimes stuff things up and think irrationally. No one can think rationally all of the time. Also rational thinking is a choice thing that is not effected by brain ability, except in the worst cases of brain damage. It is a Mind thing. Note the distinction of the capital 'M', which even scientists use sometimes. By "choice thing" I mean that we choose to either think rationally or not to, though the choice may not be so blatant and may in fact be quite subtle.
And complex numbers are logical, just not in the system you've been taught. You nead to broaden your mind away from only accepting elementary algebra to be able to see the logic. Of course, only if you want. See my comment on your tutor somewhere else, which we have already discussed about.
Based on what I am taught? No. I never take someone else's opinions or statements on face value. I analyse them using reason and decide for myself if they have merit. So in other words, I form my own opinion.
As long as you accept that complex numbers can be logical in a logical system that you haven't been taught, I'm happy, as it's already better than a blunt "they're not logical" approach.
First I need evidence. I will not believe anything without evidence of some kind, be it the evidence that it stands up to rational thinking or the more typical sort of evidence.
I'm deep into advanced math everyday, so I sometimes lose track of that non-math people might not have heard of things like complex numbers.
Oh, I am a maths person. I'm just not a advanced maths person. I strugled alot with calculus and triginometry in high school. However, I excelled at algrebra and numbers (well normal ones anyway) and arithmetic.
'some freaky mathematical concept of which I don't see any way to fit it into real life'
Oh, I see that there is some real life use for them. it's just that the vast majority of people don't need them.
That's the same process starting again for a new person, hence a new case. I meant for incidual cases/people.
While you might not have directly said, nor meant to say, nor ever thought about the whole idea of ever saying, nor ever thought about the whole idea of thinking about my brain going wrong, it made that impact on me. You say complex numbers aren't rational (your def), I think there is a perfectly valid reason for them to exist. That's almost (not entirely) like saying I'm not rational, while I have yet to see any proof that they cannot exist. Of course there are no real numbers (math def) that, when squared, are -1. That's the whole point of complex numbers anyway: providing a facility we hadn't had yet. But saying I'm not rational is like saying my brain doesn't think rational. And imho (in my humble opinion), my brain is going wrong when it doesn't think rational.
No it is like saying that one thought of your is not rational, not that you as a whole are. And that comment is not derogative or like saying that your brain is going wrong, since even people like myself that value rational thinking so highly sometimes stuff things up and think irrationally. No one can think rationally all of the time. Also rational thinking is a choice thing that is not effected by brain ability, except in the worst cases of brain damage. It is a Mind thing. Note the distinction of the capital 'M', which even scientists use sometimes. By "choice thing" I mean that we choose to either think rationally or not to, though the choice may not be so blatant and may in fact be quite subtle.
And complex numbers are logical, just not in the system you've been taught. You nead to broaden your mind away from only accepting elementary algebra to be able to see the logic. Of course, only if you want. See my comment on your tutor somewhere else, which we have already discussed about.
Based on what I am taught? No. I never take someone else's opinions or statements on face value. I analyse them using reason and decide for myself if they have merit. So in other words, I form my own opinion.
As long as you accept that complex numbers can be logical in a logical system that you haven't been taught, I'm happy, as it's already better than a blunt "they're not logical" approach.
First I need evidence. I will not believe anything without evidence of some kind, be it the evidence that it stands up to rational thinking or the more typical sort of evidence.
I'm deep into advanced math everyday, so I sometimes lose track of that non-math people might not have heard of things like complex numbers.
Oh, I am a maths person. I'm just not a advanced maths person. I strugled alot with calculus and triginometry in high school. However, I excelled at algrebra and numbers (well normal ones anyway) and arithmetic.
'some freaky mathematical concept of which I don't see any way to fit it into real life'
Oh, I see that there is some real life use for them. it's just that the vast majority of people don't need them.
