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April 29th 2010, 05:40 AM
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Peasant He/Him Heard Island And Mcdonald Islands
Let us save our effort and just lie down and die. 
hypah said "order incites order, chaos incites chaos"

I disagree. In fact, order creates disallusion resulting in chaos. Chaos creates a lack/ need for security and stability, which results in the eventual re-establishment of order unless national immigration (Zimbabwe under Mugabe) or self-destruction (Sudan, Cambodia) take down the nation first.

I agree with the sheep analogy, though I would suggest this is because of laziness, not stupidity.

Take for example the Emo movement - how did they merge into pop culture? Because kids with bad feelings and a sense of oppression started expressing those emotions through music. Other kids (too lazy to be artists or protestors) suddenly realized that they felt the same way, but they grew content with listening to music and cutting themselves. Now, they lost sight as to why they were crying, cutting, dressing up etc, but went through the motions anyway. Eventually, the music industry realizes that kids aren't listening to Aqua anymore, so they sponsor a whole string of "emo" bands (I'm sure you can think of 10). Emo now begins to be a pop-culture. People attend the concerts, dress up and cut themselves and think that they are rising against "The Machine". Problem is, most of these kids don't know what they're rebelling against, or they fail to realise that "The Machine" has engulfed them, and that they are now a generic gear within it.

Now the worst part of people rebelling against some "Satan", "Empire", "Machine" or "Evil Church" that mostly they don't realise that A.) There is no "Bad Guy", B.) because they've already made the "Bad Guy" a "Small Guy" (a sub-culture), which C.) Puts them in the position of oppressor ("Bad Guy").

"Not until we are lost do we begin to understand ourselves." – Henry David Thoreau