picture punishment
Astonishing. Just reading the news. There is a story about a drunk driver that crossed the center line and killed a man,(teacher), put the teacher's pregnant wife in a coma, and baby had to be cut out of her. The child is 5 months and being cared for by relatives. The judge in the case is making the driver carry (at all times) a picture of the dead man in his coffin. Wow. Well like they say...... a picture is worth etc...
Wow. Freakish. I'm 'pro' those kinds of punishments. In a previous more personal age, if you accidentally killed someone you'd be indepted to their relatives until they saw fit to release you. I think that is a more humanizing form of punishment than sticking someone in jail or fining them. It's more personal and brings the point home.
Well I do stand for some creative punishment, but I think this is a little bit too much. The Psychological impact is TOO big (well maybe people in America are used to it, but where I come from not) .
Personally I knew a guy that accidentally killed a girl (10years old) that crossed the street (well in this case the girl was to blame, cause she crossed the street when the car was only 2 meters away, in a place where you can drive 50 km/h).
After a month the guy who killed the girl committed suicide cause he couldn't live with himself anymore.
SO my opinion IF and only IF the driver where drunk or something else , ok then why not... . But not for those others that are not in fault (like the person described above, well I know some would say that killing a kid is unforgivable, true but if its not your fault you shouldn't be punished for it right?), cause they have to get over it instead of being confronted by it all the time).
A couple of months ago I too was involved in a car accident where a motorbike rammed the side of our car (I was near the driver) against 80 km/h (where he was only allowed to drive 50, he catched up with a car in a road-curve with a full white line). Anyway he smashed into us and after calling the help-services (anyway, 911 you would say in America) we noticed a girl lying on her face... I was the first one to check upon her and then she turned around... That's a sight that has been burnt in the back of my eyes. I can still see it as I'm writing this, horrible really. What I'm trying to tell you is that ALMOST every human being is has a fragile mind, and in my eyes the Idea with those coffin-pictures will lead to even more depressions/suicides and/or people who go berserk and kill everybody around them (particulary in the US since almost every family has a gun there). I'll guess I'll stop my whining and let you think about it for a while
Greetz,
Shampoo173
Personally I knew a guy that accidentally killed a girl (10years old) that crossed the street (well in this case the girl was to blame, cause she crossed the street when the car was only 2 meters away, in a place where you can drive 50 km/h).
After a month the guy who killed the girl committed suicide cause he couldn't live with himself anymore.
SO my opinion IF and only IF the driver where drunk or something else , ok then why not... . But not for those others that are not in fault (like the person described above, well I know some would say that killing a kid is unforgivable, true but if its not your fault you shouldn't be punished for it right?), cause they have to get over it instead of being confronted by it all the time).
A couple of months ago I too was involved in a car accident where a motorbike rammed the side of our car (I was near the driver) against 80 km/h (where he was only allowed to drive 50, he catched up with a car in a road-curve with a full white line). Anyway he smashed into us and after calling the help-services (anyway, 911 you would say in America) we noticed a girl lying on her face... I was the first one to check upon her and then she turned around... That's a sight that has been burnt in the back of my eyes. I can still see it as I'm writing this, horrible really. What I'm trying to tell you is that ALMOST every human being is has a fragile mind, and in my eyes the Idea with those coffin-pictures will lead to even more depressions/suicides and/or people who go berserk and kill everybody around them (particulary in the US since almost every family has a gun there). I'll guess I'll stop my whining and let you think about it for a while
Greetz,
Shampoo173
I agree. Accident's do happen. I was speaking about instances where the person's choices, ie. drinking and driving, were the issues.
One of my big complaints about my country is that we're so car and highway (read petroluem) addicted and so spread out by sprawl in some places, that most people have to drive to get to a place where they meet up with friends, and consequently drive after drinking. Granted, where I live, Austin, taking a cab is not too expensive and I ride the bus when I can, but most public transit sucks and in many big cities, living where you can walk everywhere (downtown) is only for those with money. Anyone agree, disagree?
One of my big complaints about my country is that we're so car and highway (read petroluem) addicted and so spread out by sprawl in some places, that most people have to drive to get to a place where they meet up with friends, and consequently drive after drinking. Granted, where I live, Austin, taking a cab is not too expensive and I ride the bus when I can, but most public transit sucks and in many big cities, living where you can walk everywhere (downtown) is only for those with money. Anyone agree, disagree?
About public transportation I totally agree with you. Where I come in certain cities (well 2 of them I think) have free bus-rides, while taking a cab is very expensive. Thing I hate with public transportation is that you are allways dependant of their own hours and stop driving after 11 o'clock in the evening. Well public transport in big cities is the same as in the smaller towns so thats no problem, Only living in a big city (like in a house ) costs you a lot of money.
Greetz,
Shampoo173
) costs you a lot of money. Greetz,
Shampoo173
you could put scorpians fire ants termites and a load of raw sewage in my coffin, and i hate to break it to you, but i dont think that i would mind.
SO my opinion IF and only IF the driver where drunk or something else , ok then why not... . DRUNK driver also talking on cell phone at same time.
Cell phone usage while driving is rising high in the ranks as cause of accidents.
Cell phone usage while driving is rising high in the ranks as cause of accidents.
Yes agree. This state is the least populated and we drive quite a ways to get places so when you're partying, there HAS to be a designated driver or time for someone to pick you up or other sensible accommodations. Still, most serious drinkers ignore that basic rule which is why we are close to the top of the list for number of deaths by drunk drivers.
So yay for the judge in this case and may he rule forever. If I had to choose whether this picture-carrying might cause stress to someones psyche or my sons, husband, mother, etc lying in their grave, then I choose ....
The picture carrying. I would hope that every time they want to drink, that picture pops up in their mind's eye. It's a pyrrhic victory that the bereaved should not have to endure.
And yet, still, the morally-deficient drinking
son of a she dog is going on with their life while uncountable other's lives are shattered.
So yay for the judge in this case and may he rule forever. If I had to choose whether this picture-carrying might cause stress to someones psyche or my sons, husband, mother, etc lying in their grave, then I choose ....
The picture carrying. I would hope that every time they want to drink, that picture pops up in their mind's eye. It's a pyrrhic victory that the bereaved should not have to endure.
And yet, still, the morally-deficient drinking
son of a she dog is going on with their life while uncountable other's lives are shattered.
"The judge in the case is making the driver carry (at all times) a picture of the dead man in his coffin. "
okay this confused me.
the driver is alive and has to carry a picture of the dead victim
as opposed to
the driver is dead and a picture of the victim is in the driver's coffin
what about when the driver is in the shower? doesnt the picture get wet and crumble? what happens if it gets lost or accidently flushed down the toilet?
okay this confused me.
the driver is alive and has to carry a picture of the dead victim
as opposed to
the driver is dead and a picture of the victim is in the driver's coffin
what about when the driver is in the shower? doesnt the picture get wet and crumble? what happens if it gets lost or accidently flushed down the toilet?
okay this confused me
You must be one of the 'easily confused'. Or else bored.
what about when the driver is in the shower? doesnt the picture get wet and crumble? what happens if it gets lost or accidently flushed down the toilet?
Let's all have a party and celebrate the incarceration of the drinken driver. But, Josh, You are definitely not allowed to drink. The idea of alcohol added to your thought processes is terrifying.
You must be one of the 'easily confused'. Or else bored.
what about when the driver is in the shower? doesnt the picture get wet and crumble? what happens if it gets lost or accidently flushed down the toilet?
Let's all have a party and celebrate the incarceration of the drinken driver. But, Josh, You are definitely not allowed to drink. The idea of alcohol added to your thought processes is terrifying.
no if i did drugs i would probably start acting out the insane thoughts in my head cause i would loose reason and just start going berserk. me plus acid would be a disaster.
i am not easily confused, come on: "judge in the case is making the driver carry (at all times) a picture of the dead man in his coffin. "
the driver has to carry a picture of the dead man in his coffin
the driver has to carry a picture of the dead man in his coffin
it all depends on how much if it you read to be what the picture is of. its a matter of the wording being able to be interpreted 2 ways.
i am not easily confused, come on: "judge in the case is making the driver carry (at all times) a picture of the dead man in his coffin. "
the driver has to carry a picture of the dead man in his coffin
the driver has to carry a picture of the dead man in his coffin
it all depends on how much if it you read to be what the picture is of. its a matter of the wording being able to be interpreted 2 ways.
in one of my older bands, the singer had schizophrenia. he was also a total druggie. if you dont know what schizo does, it pretty much makes you paranoid and hearing voices and having crazy thoughts (it is NOT multiple personality which some people think, that is a disociative disorder) well one day this kid was on acid or X, i dont remember, but anyway the drug mixed with his disorder really fudgeed him up. he was hearing voices and all that which was normal to him, but because of the drugs also, he stabbed himself in the chest with a knife repeatedly. HE STABBED HIMSELF IN THE CHEST WITH A KNIFE. thats totally fudgeed up.
When you begin to impose punishments like carring a picture or haveing to pay the family or something, that would mean someone who has extra space in their wallet and a few extra bucks could go on a killing spree and then just pay people off...
Also I dont know about other places but here the judicial system is a peice of steaming crap, someone doesnt mirandize(or however you spell it) the person right even a murderer can get off scott free...speaking of scott, the whole patterson case baffles even my great mind, I am in no way defending him but he is getting a raw deal, your supposed to get a trial by jury and that jury is supposed to be unbiased, well with the "freedom of the press", you would have to go to europe or maybe even the moon to find a unbiased jury.
Now I luv thriller but micheal jackson is wierd ill admit it...but no matter if he is convicted or not he would never have to do time, cause he is a star and stars are invincible to the courts
Haveing never left the usa (unless you count international waters)I dont know how things work in other countries but i have bad feelings about how the US is going these days
sorry for the slight rant of that but i think it applies
Also I dont know about other places but here the judicial system is a peice of steaming crap, someone doesnt mirandize(or however you spell it) the person right even a murderer can get off scott free...speaking of scott, the whole patterson case baffles even my great mind, I am in no way defending him but he is getting a raw deal, your supposed to get a trial by jury and that jury is supposed to be unbiased, well with the "freedom of the press", you would have to go to europe or maybe even the moon to find a unbiased jury.
Now I luv thriller but micheal jackson is wierd ill admit it...but no matter if he is convicted or not he would never have to do time, cause he is a star and stars are invincible to the courts
Haveing never left the usa (unless you count international waters)I dont know how things work in other countries but i have bad feelings about how the US is going these days
sorry for the slight rant of that but i think it applies
