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I think I've posted on the same subject long time ago, but now I'm really frustrated with my wde+ problems. I'm using W7, and since then WDE+ is totally unusable. Whenever I want to put new sprite (or edit some from other dmods), wde shuts down. I've reinstalled it 1000 times, changed compatibility mods, but nothing helped. Does anyone here had the same problem with Windows 7? Oh, and putting tiles works normaly, but that's everything that works...

Everything works fine in Win7. Do you use 64 or 32 bit?

If you are talking about colour depth, 32 is max on my computer. However I need to play dmods with freedink (dfarc 3.4), because of short and repetitive screen blackouts. It doesn't effect gameplay itself, but it's really annoying.

Also, every time I start wde+, he is unable to find dink.exe. So I have to search for folder every time I want to start it.

I've never had any problems.

I hope you have learned an important lesson here. NEVER get Windows 7.

Correction! The lesson is old and new don't mix

The lesson I take away is never to make D-Mods.

I hope no one learns that lesson.

Please, Win7 is a splendid OS (compared to it's deranged smaller brother, Vista). I was talking about your system type.

Run Windows Update. If you can't run it due to your Win7 Pirate Edition, then WinDinkEdit+ will never work properly on your computer.

Pirate Edition! Does it come with a Jack Sparrow wallpaper?

Arrr!

On topic: I've never had problems running WinDinkEdit under win 7. If WinDinkEdit is unable to find Dink.exe it is probably because WinDinkEdit.exe isn't in the same folder as Dink.exe.

Also, it is probably a good idea not to install dink in Program Files. I've heard that it solves a lot of problems.

I have Vista at home, and I created a C:\Applications folder for the programs that don't seem to work in Program Files. That works for me. I think I have Dink in there.

No solution.
I'll just play other peoples dmods then... or steal lap top from my sister. Pitty I have to resort to crime to be creative

Please, Win7 is a splendid OS (compared to it's deranged smaller brother, Vista).

This.

Windows 7 is a very good OS imo. You couldn't have picked better words for its exceeded... brother.

Hehe. Well, I get creative sometimes.

I have three suggestions for you tooth, hope they are of some use...

1. I wonder again if it is a authorisation issue? I took off all instances of it not allowing me to change what I want on my own computer - this is my only issue with win 7 - it thinks we are all idiots

2. When I started using win 7 I had to install wde and click the wde icon to open it and play with dmods in the editor, nothing opened with dfarc but after I had had it open through the editor icon it seemed to then recognise them through dfarc after that (yes its nuts but pfft worked)

3. Make sure it is installed under program files (x86) and not program files.

I only use win7 now so it does work, we just have to figure how to help you

Just use FreeDinkEdit.

If you actually interested in dmod making you'll learn it quickly.

WinDinkEdit doesn't work on Windows 7.

I have windows seven. Windinkedit works fine for me.

Me too!

WinDinkEdit doesn't work on Windows 7

Maybe for you. Though, I will admit, it does crash a lot. It did on Vista too, but I dunno. It could be that Vista sucks, and two it crashes on Win7 cause Win7 was actually built off of Vista.

Or, WinDinkEdit+ needs some serious fixing.

It does run. Much like a three-legged dog can.

It won't work with Aero meaning it slows everything else down, and the scaling of the map preview looks terrible. On top of that it won't find half of my installed mods because it's written for Windows 98 and the paths are hard-coded. Plus the usual WDE problems (crashes all the time etc.)

It's not optimal.

I use that dumb aero thing and wde+ works fine, its isnt slow or laggy - it never crashes and as long as you dont update the graphics stuff it is perfect and I continue to make dmods on win 7.

If it doesnt find your old dmods, as I said earlier open them with wde+ and not dfarc because thats the only glitch I have conme across using wde+ on win 7, but they still open and are playable.

Its perfectly fine, maybe take a look at how u have set it up?

WinDinkEdit is old and buggy.

That's all.

WinDinkEdit isn't buggy at all. I haven't had it crash for once. But then again, I do use the good ol' superior XP.

I don't install nothing in program files, all of my files (and games) are on other disk, so this is the case with Dink too. If anyone starts creating new editing program, I'll be happy to make some suggestions (especially when it comes to hardness). But until then, I'm stuck.

And wait for Cloud castle 3

If anyone starts creating new editing program, I'll be happy to make some suggestions (especially when it comes to hardness).

I have some ideas myself, but please do post your suggestions in the thread about my editor. If I like them, I might implement them.

Well the first suggestion is obvious. Make sure it's compatible with this dang new windows.
Oh Bill Gates, what have you done...

Make sure it's compatible with this dang new windows.

I won't spend any time on that. The last time I really did anything with Windows was on Windows 98. By then I got so annoyed that I decided to not help people with their Windows-problems anymore. I still feel extremely good about this decision. Windows is a very broken system, and the main problem is that I can't fix it, because Microsoft doesn't allow me to. That annoys me. I hate workarounds, and when using Windows you need to use them all the time.

A great feature of free software (such as GNU/Linux) is that if I improve something on it (that's a part which isn't even possible with Windows), I can share it with everyone (that's not allowed with Windows). This results in a community feeling, where everyone is happy and nobody has to feel left out (for having little money, or living in another country, or whatever reason Microsoft feels like).

Anyway, I've used Python and pyGtk to write it. There are people who want these things to work on Windows, and they made packages so you can install them. I'm not going to test if everything works, but I'm pretty sure it will. And if you have reports of actual bugs in my code (as opposed to my code triggering a bug in Windows), I'm happy to fix it.

My solution for your Windows-problems: install GNU/Linux, for example from Debian. I suggest to try a live system first (you don't need to install anything for that), and if you like it install a dual-boot system. If you really like it, you can then proceed to remove Windows. (More realistically, you will just not buy or install it the next time you buy a new computer.)

Oh Bill Gates, what have you done...

He has made a lot of money with his skills. As opposed to what many people think, he's a lousy programmer. But he is very skilled in marketing and running a business. I don't really like those skills and I particularly dislike that he used those skills mostly to get rich at the cost of others, but I won't deny that he is skilled it it. Unfortunately the result is that many people now have broken software that cannot be fixed.

Wll, since computer is not just for my use, dual boot system seems best idea. If I can explain that to my parents of course. But that's not your problem.

There are people who want these things to work on Windows, and they made packages so you can install them.
Um? Sorry, but I didn't understand. What packages?

Oh and one more thing. Ever played age of empires 1 or 2?

Age of Empires II doesn't work properly on Windows 7 funnily enough. Lovely purple water.

Try out Ubuntu in VMWare player or VirtualBox. Dual booting will wipe your hard drive because it's pretty obvious you have no knowledge of partitioning.

No, no. I'm not asking for help with that game (you can make a batch file to repair colour problem). Just wanted to make a suggestion to shevek. But I need to know whether he played it or not.

And isn't the dual boot, that thikng when you can choose operating program when you start a computer. I think it's even possible to have two different windows installed, but that cause a lot of problems.

If you are talking about colour depth
He means OS type. New processors can process 64 bits of data at a time instead of 32 bits, but it requires software to be rebuilt. Hence, there's both 32-bits and 64-bits versions of Windows. Depending on the OS and system that you have, this might make a difference in functionality, since 32-bit software may not always work as well in a 64-bit environment.

And heck, almost no actual graphics card can handle 64-bit graphics. That stuff's used in just a very specialized environment.

Oh Bill Gates, what have you done...
Well, he sure hasn't done anything whatsoever about Windows 7. Steve Ballmer is in charge, now.

Um? Sorry, but I didn't understand. What packages?

For Python and for pyGtk. You need those to run my editor. The editor doesn't directly use the OS, but only those programs, and since these are available for Windows, my editor should work on it.

Wll, since computer is not just for my use, dual boot system seems best idea.

Really, if you haven't seen it before, and don't know if you like it, a live system is the best idea. You can boot it, use it and see if it's something for you. If it isn't, you reformat the usb stick or throw away the cd and nothing has changed. Setting up dual boot is quite some work, and you can easily wipe out your current Windows install if you're not careful. Don't do it unless you know it's a good idea.

Ever played age of empires 1 or 2?

Ah, that's another thing you need to know, and it may be a reason you want to keep Windows: non-free programs (that's anything you need to pay for, and for Windows also quite some things that don't cost money) only work on one system. If the makers of the program don't ship a version for Linux, it doesn't work on it. I don't think there is a Linux version for those games.

Also, I like software for which I have the source code. So even if it costs no money (like flash player), I still don't want to use it if I'm not allowed to change it.

So to answer your question: no, I haven't.

@Shevek

Firts:
My friend is little (when I say a little, I mean a lot) more in computers than me, so he will do dual booting part.

Second:
I understand now that I am talking with someone who is a total psycho for programming and stuff (in a a positive way ).

Third:
I'm a big fan of age of empires 2, so I've been doing some modding, mostly for my friends. If you heaven't played it, you should definitely check the scenario editor. I've got no problem with programming, and Dink C is relatively easy to learn, but editor in age 2 could give you some ideas how to improve (or change) the way of dmoding. This is only a suggestion. Although I doubt anyone here will want a change in that segment.