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Anyone ever have Deja Vu or had a dream come true? Anyone ever look at a picture and was able to tell if certain things about the person/place/thing in the picture was real? (well, that last aspect is rue for me.) Please tell me if you've ever did any of these things.

yeah right. no such thing as psychic.

I have not experienced this, nor do I know anyone who has.

My brain is too scientific to really believe in psychics, however I do believe some people (very very few) have the ability to see things.

that would be perceptive. not psychic.

Yes. I have limited psychic abilities.

I believe everyone has a slight bit of psychis powers in them. Some have stronger than others. But deja vu has nothing to do with psychic powers, though. I've had several deja vu's in my life but they don't come as often when you grow older.

EDIT: Also, I've had sometimes a dream come true. Though, it could also have been the deja vu.

I often have Deja Vu in my dreams. Mostly about the future.

I tried some Deja Vu once. It tasted like lemonade.

Ummm...what is a Deja Vu?......

Google it. As simple as that.

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Sometimes when I was doing something,I felt as if I had known that I'd do that...

It's strange huh? I think that everyone has the potential to have psychic powers when they're childs and adolescents, because then they'd be able to hone that skill and use it for whatever reasons they have.

Lol... I know if I had psychic powers what I would use them for...

I have had 'preminitions' before but they are kinda inconclusive and vague.

most are, I once had one once that i was about to run ino the girls bathroom by mistake. an hour before i rushed off to the bathroom after a few cartons of chocolate milk.

My psychic powers are generally confined to me - dreams that reveal actions I should do, or bad things that are soon to happen. Unfortunately, I usually brush the premonitions aside 'til it's too late.

I once heard that a deja vu is caused by some tiny brain malfunction, which (I thought) had something to do with eye signals which are being read a bit too slow, causing you to think you've seen something before, while actually it's just your slow dummy brain. But I don't know if this is true though
I do know information can 'leak' through your brain into different areas. It's like hearing a loud noise while you sleep, and you wake up with a start, thinking you've seen a flash of light instead, or accompanied with, that noise. Your brain misinterprets the sound-signal with a sight-signal, causing weird interpretations.

I've never been able to look at a pic and tell something about a person, except sometimes if I think they're nice or not, but that's just my judgment.

Deja-vu's seem to happen more when you're a kid because kids usually find it more difficult to tell the difference between dream and reality. When I was 5 (or about that age) I used to dream I could fly off the stairs, and it was so real, I thought it was real. I actually stood in front of a stair once, thinking: hmmm, should I jump? I'm almost sure I can... But somehow I never jumped

Both of those ideas (brain malfunction and information leak) don't really have any direct support. Although the first one is probably our best guess to explain deja vu and the second our best guess to explain synesthesia. Although I don't know about the details (i.e. eye signals being read slow? I think you mean multiple pathways, one slower than another, so when they unite the brain interprets them as happening at different times?)

I think the first description of deja vu actually explained it as misinterpreting current perception as a memory.

Anyway, with 'psychic powers', scientists do actually study them. Most of these questions can be answered by science (i.e. careful experiments can be done to test them), and have been answered. There is no robust psychic effect. There is also no mechanism in physics that could explain them.

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*To Joycielaanie* I read something on Snopes.com (a website that focuses on proving/disproving Urban Legends) about a blind girl who could 'see' the A-bomb testing's flash of light. maybe the whatchamacallit thing you were talking about could explain that, but i think the Deja Vu might have a small connection with Premonitions. you could've had a premonition in the form of a dream and not rememberit and experience it as deja vu. well, that's my theory

i dont believe all that guff.

@ Joycielaanie: like when you wake up hearing somebody screaming only to realize that it's the neighbour's cow meowing.

Ed. @ everyone: A study from the University of British Columbia has found daydreaming is no longer a reflection of laziness, rather a key to activating problem-solving areas in the brain. People who let their minds wander shift into an important cognitive state that switches on the "executive network" in the brain - the part associated with high-level, complex problem solving. - Australian Mens Health, August '09

yep, I space off when i'm trying to figure out a hard logic puzzle or i'm thinking of the next part of a book. I once solved the Three missionaries and the Three cannibals puzzle that way.

Hmmm... it might be hard to explain, since I'm not too good in english but here goes:

Deja vu is caused because your so-called "smaller brains" have already picked the information that is happening. But the information hasn't moved from the "smaller brains" to the rest of the brains aka "big brains". So, the reason you are feeling that you've already lived the moment, is because your "small barins" have already lived the moment, but the rest of the brains realise it a few seconds (could be smaller) later. So, it feels like you lived the same thing twice.

This has been proved. And that's the best way I can explain it, because I suck in english.

That's a theory; most definitely has not been proven. I think the only thing that has actually been satisfactorily proven so far is that they don't really know what causes deja vu.

Yeah, well, something with weird signals, I didn't remember all the details exactly. This sounds more logical than deja vu's always being a psychic experience to me...

Psychics do not exist. In addition to there being ZERO evidence that would warrant such an inference, every bit of evidence that could be scrutinized has been shown to be fraudulent or simple mis-perception.

Deja Vu is not an actual phenomenon but the belief that one has experienced such has to do with human psychology and our evolutionary biological wiring. Humans tend to amplify 'hits' and de-emphasize or ignore 'misses', ala 'Confirmation bias'.

Same thing basically applies to people who felt that were to some degree 'psychic' because they 'Were thinking about grandma just seconds before they got the phone call that grandma passed away or was admitted to the hospital...'. Basically we ignore all those times when we were thinking about Angelina Jolie or the clerk at the 7-11 and no one called to tell them news about Angelina/the 7-11 clerk/etc.

Probability dictates that out of the hundreds(perhaps thousands) of phone calls one will receive, a few of them will be eerie in their timing and/or subject matter and THOSE are the ones we remember and amplify through another psychological phenomenon called 'False memory'. We tend to recollect events inaccurately, giving amplified or outright false details that confirm our beliefs. This was famously demonstrated in a study where subjects who had visited Disneyland as a child but had not been back since then were asked a series of questions relating to their experience as they recalled it. One of those questions was "Do you remember your meeting with Bugs Bunny?" to which most of the respondents not only said "yes" but also gave detailed accounts of said meeting. The problem of course is that Bugs Bunny is a Warner Bros. cartoon character and has never been featured at Disneyland.

Hey, Whoever you are! There ARE psychics, Everyone has the potential to be one, (that is what i think,) Ever heard of Empaths or Clairvoyants? I'm not talking about Telekinetics or Pyrokinetics, but Telepaths (people who can communicate eith the mind) and other types. YOU think there are no psychics and want to crush other people's ideas without proving said tests were performed. Give us a few links to said tests and maybe i'll consider your point of view.

i fully agree with tony. no such thing. its a foolish belief.

I disagree. Modern science and scepticism has turned us to analyzing everything, thus we destroy the natural magic. To some people, magic does not exist because the person fears and thus shuts out magic from their lives.

magic is very real, but not in the way you think. i think that those dang demons use magic to harm people. as in they harm people whenever they try to use magic. its all cult guff, and i stay well away from that. ddc does not count. its nothing more to me than a symbol of the dn. as well as the headless duck and banana.

You're just a man of Technology. How could you know what is going on in the Ethereal realm?

I like witchhunters too - not those murderous african fanatics, I'm talkin' Solomon Kane, Abraham Van Helsing etc.

Zeddexx, try broadening your mind a little, what schnapper said is true. We all have become a race that is afraid to explore what we don't know, we don't know it so we fear it, we fear it so we can't possibly know it. it becomes a vicious circle that only someone truely brave enough to seek the thing out can stop.

I believe in magic, but not in that Chris Angel crap.

I can turn money into beer
and then i see strange visions!!

I can turn money into beer too. Just go to the counter, ask for beer and give the guy your money.

Christians believe in magic How else would their messiah turn water into alcoholic liquid all the time?

"Hey Jesus, do you see that river? I bet ya couldn't do it." <- Example of a reason why he always had 12 dudes following him around

thats just my opinion, evreyone is entitled to theyre own opinion.

i know that, well, i kinda forgot it for a while.

...huh? What does girl-girl hent... oh, Red Alert.

I can switch red traffic lights to green lights just by staring at them.

I can turn green traffic lights into red by staring at them. If I'm tired enough.

well, I can change yellow lights into redlighs, redlights to green lights, and green lights to yellow lights just by staring at them.

I can predict that I'm about to fart!

This all-too-common nonsense that being analytical/critical/skeptical is itself preventing us from 'knowing the truth' about real psychics and such is just silly guys. It is a dodge to avoid having to cough up any good evidence to support your claims(or answer the contradictory evidence and argument from people like me).

Any REAL thing or ability will leave REAL evidence warranting the inference. Skepticism will not and can not 'block' that!?! I will go with Occam's razor on this one until someone is able to demonstrate ANY psychic powers.

Contrary to popular mis-belief we have a pretty solid handle on what each part of the brain does and we use 100% of our brains. So good luck finding some mysterious undiscovered area of the brain that might be responsible for psychic powers and then constructing a mechanistic explanation of how such might be.

Listen, I would wager that I would be far ahead of YOU guys in some line of people arranged according to how badly they wanted for these things to be real and how open minded we were to such. There is this common misconception of skeptics that we are dour, hard-nosed people who recoil at the very idea that such things could be true. Most of us are connoisseurs of science fiction, fantasy, comic books etc., myself included.

We just don't confuse that desire and open mindedness we have with a rational assessment of reality. Unfortunately we do not live in an 'Anything is possible' reality. We live in a finite reality. Like it or not, some things are not real, no matter how much they entertain or inspire us creatively.

Occhams Razor: 'Plurality should not be posited without neccesity' What does Occhams Razor have anything to do with this? And are people really reading ur posts?

To say "you can be sceptical about it but that doesn't mean there isn't a possibility it can exist" is an Occam's Razor, because there is simply a conflict between theories, the latter does not disprove the former (believe being the latter, scepticism the former).

And yes, people read his posts, don't try to shy away from the discussion with that bullcrap.

I'm not 100% agreeing with SkeleTony, but keep the discussion civilized, don't insult people. That goes for everyone.

"We just don't confuse that desire and open mindedness we have with a rational assessment of reality." Yeah - 'coz we're all stupid and tony is Mr. wise-guy with the answers. Well, much of modern science was established by Christians, and scientific explainations are ways for people who fear the supernatural to rationalize it into non-existence. Christians feared demons in the Middle-ages, for example.

Yeah - 'coz we're all stupid and tony is Mr. wise-guy with the answers.

While I agree with you that SkeleTony's response might lack a bit of humbleness on his side I can't blame him. He just tries to make his opinion very clear, not to insult you.

Try being substantial if you have an argument to make. Insults are just unnecessary.

My sis did, years ago. A few times, even. They were all dreams about her gymnastics classes that, at least roughly, seemed to have come true.

I myself would accredit such things as coincidence. There are people who have always been telling me there is no such thing as coincidence, but until someone comes with a concrete reason I'm not going to fall for such things.

By the way! I'm a very imaginative person. I'd like nothing more than live in my own fantasy world. Been so ever since I was small, and it's still true. But I do have a very firm believe against any kind of superstition or "paranormal event" in real life.

People calling themselves psychics usually turn out to be very strong in certain traits, like perceiving accurate first impressions on people they don't know, or having a knack for predicting things (in fiction or real life).

As much as I wish some of that cool stuff were true, it just isn't.

Tony acts too sure of himself. also, @DaVince, Psychic abilities are real, it's just that most people ignore a premontion or somehing like that as mere coincidence. They don't develop the power and they soon lose the ability to use it.

You keep telling psychic powers are real, Kris, but you failed to provide even one argument why they are real. Where's your proof?

Because the Proof is all around us, you just have to actually look beyond you own nose.

Obviously, that's not proof.

I can say mutated vampires are real. Just look around you! Not really convincing eh?

Hey! My best freind is a Vampire! Not a mutated one, but I know that she's a Vampire.

k. Vampires has gone overboard the lately due to one or more movies. They're not following the lore correctly.

"Try being substantial if you have an argument to make. Insults are just unnecessary."
I'm not arguing now, I'm flaming, you nubcake!

I can say mutated vampires are real. Just look around you! Not really convincing eh?

I think Christiaan meant "just look around this forum".

Maybe Christaan is a mutated Vampire! i wonder, do they shoot lasers from their eyes?

XD Irrelevant-ish, but funny!

lol

Ockham's Razor: The principle that one should never unnecessarily multiply entities for explanation(But what Kris wrote is danged close enough).

What does this have to do with the subject?

Everything! We can explain every facet of every claim or belief pertaining to psychics without ever having to grant assent to the claims themselves. SO it is basically the same situation as getting a flat tire while driving and finding a rusty nail sticking out of said tire. At that point we can explain the flat without need of conjuring magical, vengeful gremlins with magical nail guns so we should not assent to a claim that magical gremlins caused the flat.

Likewise it would be equally foolish for us to give assent to the claim that psychics exist based on the silly anecdotal testimony and what laughably passes for evidence for the Sylvia Browne/John Edward/Edgar Cayce crowd.

But I am nothing if not open minded. If anyone here has some new and compelling evidence or case to present then I will give it a fair shake. But if not...then psychics still don't exist.

Ha. "Your Period!" I wonder if the fact that lunation takes about 28 days and the menstrual cycle takes about 28 days has any relation. Wait - full moon is for were-wolves isn't it? Anyways, when a girl hasn't had her usual period, they say that she may be pregnant. Psyyyyyyyychiiiiiiiiic

I'll take that as a compliment, Skeletony. (BTW, does my spelling ur name fully, and not making a nickname from it bother or bore you?)

You can look at it in reverse and say that some people think they have psychic abilities because they got a bunch of stuff right.