reveiws: mini Vs Full problems
I know this has been discussed before, but i really think that there should be some sort of word count score for full vs. mini reveiws.
i don't think that this will prompt people to purposefully write one word over teh limit, and anyway, so what if they do? It's better than your score constantly changing, every tiem you resubmit a reveiw, becaus e a staff member decided that this time it was a mini review, whereas last tiem it was a full one. Staff should still validate reviews, just not decide whether they are full or mini reviews.
what do you all think?
: I know this has been discussed before, but i really think that there should be some sort of word count score for full vs. mini reveiws.
: i don't think that this will prompt people to purposefully write one word over teh limit, and anyway, so what if they do? It's better than your score constantly changing, every tiem you resubmit a reveiw, becaus e a staff member decided that this time it was a mini review, whereas last tiem it was a full one. Staff should still validate reviews, just not decide whether they are full or mini reviews.
: what do you all think?
Word/character count is stupid. I can almost guarantee people would do the bare minimum, and add some BS in the review just to make it full.
Though, that does happen somewhat... with some reviews that just seem to have filler that is totally unrelated with the file.
And a review for, say, Bloop the Fish could be considered a Full review with only 300 words (complete guess) as there simply isn't much to review... whereas a full review for an Epic better by quite a bit more.
Also, Full reviews and mini reviews don't just have to do with the number of words... they have to do with the quality. For example, I'm thinking of joshriot's review of FIAT right now. I don't think it had one single capital letter in the entire thing... but it was still a good review and long. But it was set as mini.
I'm open to other suggestions outside of word count... perhaps a completely different validation system outside of full/mini. But I can't think of one.
: i don't think that this will prompt people to purposefully write one word over teh limit, and anyway, so what if they do? It's better than your score constantly changing, every tiem you resubmit a reveiw, becaus e a staff member decided that this time it was a mini review, whereas last tiem it was a full one. Staff should still validate reviews, just not decide whether they are full or mini reviews.
: what do you all think?
Word/character count is stupid. I can almost guarantee people would do the bare minimum, and add some BS in the review just to make it full.
Though, that does happen somewhat... with some reviews that just seem to have filler that is totally unrelated with the file.
And a review for, say, Bloop the Fish could be considered a Full review with only 300 words (complete guess) as there simply isn't much to review... whereas a full review for an Epic better by quite a bit more.
Also, Full reviews and mini reviews don't just have to do with the number of words... they have to do with the quality. For example, I'm thinking of joshriot's review of FIAT right now. I don't think it had one single capital letter in the entire thing... but it was still a good review and long. But it was set as mini.
I'm open to other suggestions outside of word count... perhaps a completely different validation system outside of full/mini. But I can't think of one.
Well... why even make a distinction if w're not doing the points thing anymore?
: Well... why even make a distinction if w're not doing the points thing anymore?
Hmm, there's still a ranking with the weighted score of someone, where full is 3 'points' and mini is 1 'point'...
Hmm, there's still a ranking with the weighted score of someone, where full is 3 'points' and mini is 1 'point'...
: Word/character count is stupid. I can almost guarantee people would do the bare minimum, and add some BS in the review just to make it full.
Surely thats why you have staff validating it??
: Though, that does happen somewhat... with some reviews that just seem to have filler that is totally unrelated with the file.
: And a review for, say, Bloop the Fish could be considered a Full review with only 300 words (complete guess) as there simply isn't much to review... whereas a full review for an Epic better by quite a bit more.
yeah, that could be a problem, although i notice that the reviews for FIAT aren't that much larger than for some of teh smaller reviews...
: Also, Full reviews and mini reviews don't just have to do with the number of words... they have to do with the quality. For example, I'm thinking of joshriot's review of FIAT right now. I don't think it had one single capital letter in the entire thing... but it was still a good review and long. But it was set as mini.
So capitalisation and punctuation count towards teh "fullness" of a review?? Persoanlly, i think that maybe all reviews should have teh same amount of points, and teh full and mini distinctions should be removed. anyway, if you want to get points, surely ti should be done by releasing files??
Surely thats why you have staff validating it??
: Though, that does happen somewhat... with some reviews that just seem to have filler that is totally unrelated with the file.
: And a review for, say, Bloop the Fish could be considered a Full review with only 300 words (complete guess) as there simply isn't much to review... whereas a full review for an Epic better by quite a bit more.
yeah, that could be a problem, although i notice that the reviews for FIAT aren't that much larger than for some of teh smaller reviews...
: Also, Full reviews and mini reviews don't just have to do with the number of words... they have to do with the quality. For example, I'm thinking of joshriot's review of FIAT right now. I don't think it had one single capital letter in the entire thing... but it was still a good review and long. But it was set as mini.
So capitalisation and punctuation count towards teh "fullness" of a review?? Persoanlly, i think that maybe all reviews should have teh same amount of points, and teh full and mini distinctions should be removed. anyway, if you want to get points, surely ti should be done by releasing files??
: Persoanlly, i think that maybe all reviews should have teh same amount of points, and teh full and mini distinctions should be removed.
That is a possibility... I'm thinking about it.
: anyway, if you want to get points, surely ti should be done by releasing files??
Um... no. As I saw in the various implementations of 'points' over the past year or so, giving points for files brought out the worst in people. People would just release crap, in an idiotic quest to get points. Crap files are damaging.
As it is, people reviewing only for points isn't that bad... their reviews have to be approved, and therefore usually aren't crap.
And the weighting of reviews is generally beneficial as well... for those who care about the Reviewer rankings, it motivtates them to write Full Reviews instead of Mini Reviews. And Full Reviews are much more beneficial to people trying to find a file to download than minis.
That is a possibility... I'm thinking about it.
: anyway, if you want to get points, surely ti should be done by releasing files??
Um... no. As I saw in the various implementations of 'points' over the past year or so, giving points for files brought out the worst in people. People would just release crap, in an idiotic quest to get points. Crap files are damaging.
As it is, people reviewing only for points isn't that bad... their reviews have to be approved, and therefore usually aren't crap.
And the weighting of reviews is generally beneficial as well... for those who care about the Reviewer rankings, it motivtates them to write Full Reviews instead of Mini Reviews. And Full Reviews are much more beneficial to people trying to find a file to download than minis.
: : anyway, if you want to get points, surely ti should be done by releasing files??
: Um... no. As I saw in the various implementations of 'points' over the past year or so, giving points for files brought out the worst in people. People would just release crap, in an idiotic quest to get points. Crap files are damaging.
sorry, i meant to use the reviews as we do now, but not to give differing points for review types. so crap file releases would still subtract from peoples point scores anyway.
