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Hard drive question

December 11th 2005, 07:01 PM
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carrie2004
Peasant She/Her Canada
*chomp* 
Um, say you recently had a snail-like computer but you cleaned it up and got rid of spyware and stuff and now it's back to normal speed.
But the 'drive space' thingy says that your hard drive is using 0kb.
Why would that be?
December 13th 2005, 03:19 AM
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Chrispy
Peasant He/Him Canada
I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to.I guess. 
Hmmm.... I'd open up explorer and see just how much space you have.

The way you worded it, it makes it sound almost like there is either a drive partition or a second hard drive...
December 13th 2005, 04:13 AM
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carrie2004
Peasant She/Her Canada
*chomp* 
It's my dad's computer actually and I think IE read the harddrive just fine.But when I went in to
start,programs,accesories,system tools and then clicked on drive space, it said his drive was empty.It's not compressed nor has he installed a
second hardrive.It's just weird.On my computer,I've used more than 1GB of the 2GB that was there.He has more programs than me and yet is using 0k of 2gb.
What up?
December 13th 2005, 10:25 AM
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DaVince
Peasant He/Him Netherlands
Olde Time Dinkere 
Does it really matter? Probably just another Microsoft bear...
December 13th 2005, 01:43 PM
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cypry
Peasant He/Him Romania
Chop your own wood, and it will warm you twice. 
I had a similar weird "problem" with a CD. I coppied its content(700MB) to my hard drive, and I found out there were 900MB.(I just coppied it, not decompressing it or something)
December 13th 2005, 05:46 PM
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redink1
King He/Him United States bloop
A mother ducking wizard 
If there are a lot of little files that could be possible.

Files are stored in a certain way using a 'filesystem'. CD's use something called CDFS, and hard drives could use something called FAT16, FAT32, or NTFS. Each has different levels of overhead, and generally speaking, lots of little files results in very different overall file size.

However, I can't imagine that would cause 200 MB of difference.
December 14th 2005, 01:00 AM
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toa
Ghost They/Them
 
"start,programs,accesories,system tools and then clicked on drive space, it said his drive was empty.It's not compressed"

DriveSpace is a hard drive compression system. (It compresses the entire hard drive into a single file and hooks all file-system calls.) If it doesn't show the drive, that's because it's not compressed using DriveSpace. (Never use DriveSpace - Windows is bad enough without adding even more buggy software between you and saving your data...)

What you want to do is:

Open "My Computer".
Right-click on the drive named "something (C ".
Select "Properties".

You should see a dialog showing your drive's stats.

If that's showing "0 KB used" then run Scandisk. (Start -> Programs -> Accessories -> System Tools -> Scan Disk).
December 14th 2005, 01:07 AM
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toa
Ghost They/Them
 
dang smilies.
I'm sure if I logged in before I posted, I could just edit it, but oh well...

"something (C: )"
December 14th 2005, 09:57 AM
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magicman
Peasant They/Them Netherlands duck
Mmmm, pizza. 
I'm pretty sure he ("he" being Carrie's father) didn't mean DriveSpace, but just the free space on a drive, aka drive space
December 14th 2005, 10:36 AM
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millimeter
Peasant He/Him Canada
Millimeter is Wee-Lamm, Recording Artist. :-) 
Hey Magicman, Carrie2004 said

"start,programs,accesories,system tools and then clicked on drive space, it said his drive was empty."

My first guess, this is the aftermath of an infection.

mm
December 14th 2005, 10:39 AM
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millimeter
Peasant He/Him Canada
Millimeter is Wee-Lamm, Recording Artist. :-) 
Hi CArrie 2004,

Did you clean out process include virus scan?
Perhaps alon with the day-to-day protection, it may be prudent to download a couple alternate scanners such as AVG because it's free. Set up a bi-weekly manual scan while starting in safe mode would be a good idea also.

hth,
mm
December 14th 2005, 12:34 PM
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magicman
Peasant They/Them Netherlands duck
Mmmm, pizza. 
My conclusion is that I must be blind. I should really get some sleep...
December 14th 2005, 08:57 PM
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carrie2004
Peasant She/Her Canada
*chomp* 
Hey MM, my dad has an uptodate Mcafee anti-virus
program, so I don't believe a virus caused the
problem.However, there was an excessive amount of
spyware/adware and I thought maybe it caused the
issue.He had also mentioned a spyware called elite t logger?
I never saw it when I did the cleanup.
December 15th 2005, 05:42 AM
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millimeter
Peasant He/Him Canada
Millimeter is Wee-Lamm, Recording Artist. :-) 
Interesting.

Google says that "t-logger" is a device made by Dallas Semicondictor.

"Elite t logger" resolves to a corporate keylogger application that runs on XP and 2000. AFAIK, neither of these NT platforms supports Drivespace.

Unless this machine came from a "Corporate Redeployment" initiative, I doubt it would be the latter application.

Did you boot to safe mode when you did your clean out?

I am guessing your father is running Win9x.

You could download a dos boot from bootdisk.com, and use a dos based scanner. This would not check your registry for certain, but it would eliminate Windows from interacting with your scan.

All of the mainboards I use have the Trend-Micro, chipaway chip on them. This checks the boot sector at the start of the boot up POST test. I am unfamiliar with the current McAfee software, does it have a boot scan?

Is drivespace the only tool or program that seems to behave improperly?

Weird story. I worked at a Financial Institution for a while. We had an old 340 thinkpad that thought it had and 800 mb Hard-drive. They picked up some virus that messed up the MBR, and made it look like it had 2 400 mb drives. Another reboot and it had 4 200 mb.

I couldn't even clear it with dos 5 fdisk. SO, I used an OS/2 boot disk set (3 disks) and rand their fdisk, format and installed OS/2. This cleared it enough to use the dos boot, and finally installed the corporate image from CD. Good job I did not do a network install.

On first bootup I then found the Monkey A virus had hidden somewhere, and I was finally able to clear the machine.

mm

December 15th 2005, 10:35 AM
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Chrispy
Peasant He/Him Canada
I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to.I guess. 
Well, If you have a lot of little files, CD's don't really like this too much... And there is more than one kind of CDFS I think, you can have audio or data I believe.... Not to mention whichever FS your CD ripper program uses to edit CD's on the fly.
December 17th 2005, 11:02 PM
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Striker
Noble She/Her United States
Daniel, there are clowns. 
Actually, considering it's spyware it could very well be a modified version of it. It's actually a very real possibility that your father had some kind of keylogger on there.