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Yesterday I saw LOTR3. It is a great movie and I highly reccomend it. 10 stars . I actually thought that since it was named Return Of The King, that evil dude who made the ring would be brought back to life somehow. You don't see him at all. Unfortunately, nobody from the fellowship dies(Dammit!) I think everyone should see it.
If you:
A. Are too poor to see the movie
B. Can't be bothered to drive to the movie
C. Were going to go, but the tickets were all booked out
D. All of the above

Mail me and I will loosen the plot and tell you as much about it as i can remember.

Everyone who isn't going to see it should be shot.

. . . I actually thought that since it was named Return Of The King, that evil dude who made the ring would be brought back to life somehow . . . Wrong king.

I'm on my way to see it hopefully tomorrow. I just finished reading the books a few months ago (had never read them before), so I already "know" what happens, but I can't wait to see it on the big screen. Besides, I really don't want to be shot.

I actually thought that since it was named Return Of The King, that evil dude who made the ring would be brought back to life somehow. You don't see him at all.

read the book dammit

All three of the movies are great, but the books are better. (if only a little slow in the beginning)

Or read the book
I did

I read all of the books before seeing the movies. I even read the Hobbit. Can't go through Silmarillion... too tough reading.

Dang... I miss Tom Bombadil

I've read all of Tolkien's books. (that's what I believe, anyway)

*Ha!*

I've only got the title-names in Dutch, so excuse my lousy translations...

Letters of Santa (Brieven van de Kerstman)
I won't even try to translate this one: Boer Gilles van Ham
The Smith of 'Great-Wolding' (De smid van Groot-Wolding)
The adventures of Tom Bombadil (De avonturen van Tom Bombadil)
Fairy tales (Sprookjes)
The Hobbit (De Hobbit)
The Lord of the Rings (In de Ban van de Ring)
Including Appendices (Aanhangsels)
Silmarillion
Left Narratives (Nagelaten Vertellingen)
Letters (Brieven)

Again, sorry for my lousy translations... but these were all written by Tolkien.

I won't even try to translate this one: Boer Gilles van Ham

In English, that is "Farmer Giles of Ham".

Thanks, the rest is translated well, you think?

Yeah, the rest is translated fine in my opinion.

Though "The Lord of the Rings" - "In de Ban van de Ring" has never been a literal translation of the English title, but that's a known fact.

Yeah, my Engilsh is pretty good, but translating titles...

If I didn't knew better, I would translate "In de Ban van de Ring" into "Under the Spell of the Ring" or something

Heh, that would be a too-literal-dictionary-used translation.

True... I don't use the word "Ban" each day (at least, when I'm not talking about LotR), so I had to look it up in a dictionary.

Any better suggestions, anyone?

The Silmarillion is a dang difficult read...

Agree... I couldn't get through it in Dutch, now I got it in English for Christmas

Santa tries to kill me, I'm sure

Btw, Sabre, where've you been? Didn't see you on the board for a looong time.

That's fun: translating the already translated title so you end up with a new English title. Perhaps Tolkien would've liked that title even better.

You think so? Thanks

Anyway, I don't think "In de Ban van de Ring" is meant as a translation of the title. If it was, it's a terribly bad one. I'd say "De Heerser der Ringen".

I've been very busy recently, and haven't found as much time to pollute the board. Which is a pity, because I see you are all just gagging to have your lives tainted.
But thanks for noticing I was gone(ish)!!

Having just watched LOTR3, I can now give a proper opinion on it. It's very good indeed... but surely it would have been more entertaining if Gimli was the one flipping around on an Oliphant, and not Legolas. That would have been a sight!
As a matter of interest, what certificate has the film been given in other countries? It is a 12A here in England, but I can't help but think it should be more restricted, given the biting of fingers etc.

'Heer der Ringen' is the first thing that comes to mind, but I don't like that one very much, although it's literaly. Weird, though, in English it's 'Rings' but in Dutch it's 'Ring'. It should've been 'In de Ban van de Ringen' - and how many rings are there in the story? I thought just one?

Three rings for the Elven-kings under the sky,
Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone,
Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die,
One for the Dark Lord on his dark throne
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.

That makes 20 rings (3 Elven, 7 Dwarven, 9 Men, 1 Dark).

The Lord (of these rings) is either Sauron who crafted them, or the One Ring, who rules them all. Their power is linked...

And with "In de Ban van de Ring" is meant that the Ring corrupts everyone. So this Ring is the One Ring.

Oh, and I personally think that "in hun zalen schoon" does more honour to the dwarves than "in their halls of stone".

All of the LOTR movies were pg-13 in america, in case you didn't know, anything including a sperm cell can get into a pg-13 movie, which is why there is such a lack of R rated movies. PG-13 simply means that parents should take caution before they let their kids see the movie.

This always confused me, what was the point of the other 19 rings if one ruled all of them?

You could melt them down and make an even more powerful ring, and if the "one" came into your posession, you could melt them both and make a ring for +5 magic defense.

Yes, sometimes the translation is even better then the original. Just like in Asterix and Obelix, where Obelix says: "Rare jongens, die Romeinen," which is much better then the original sentence!

"'Rare jongens, die Romeinen,' which is much better then the original sentence"

What is it in French then? I need to compare the original!!

And Merlin, I hate to tell you, but your Ring +5 won't help you when I bring out my mighty Stick of Holy Fury. It's made of just one stick!

It was a trick of Sauron. He wanted to rule the world (each Dark Lord wants) so he gave each race a few rings as a 'present'. These rings would corrupt the owners so they would listen to Sauron, with his One Ring.
You see this in the introduction of the first movie: "But a few resisted the Rings and fought against Sauron", or something like that. That's why Sauron lost.
Too bad for Sauron Elves are difficult to corrupt.

Didn't the corrupted elves become orcs? That was in the movie anyway.

Didn't Sauron put quite a bit of his own power into this "ruler-ring"? (really don't know the vocabulary for these things in english)

How did he lose it anyway? Did someone cut off his arm, or was it Melkor they did that to??? (I remember they cut off some baddie's arm )

BTW, I think they suspected that orcs were corrupted elves, but didn't know it for sure.

'Didn't Sauron put quite a bit of his own power into this "ruler-ring"?'

Yes, true. That's why they're connected. Sauron can only live if the ring exists, it contains so much power. If you want to destroy Sauron, destroy the ring.

'How did he lose it anyway?'
In some kinda war, Isildur cut of Sauron's finger with his sword. He could have destroyed it, but kept the ring himself.

'BTW, I think they suspected that orcs were corrupted elves, but didn't know it for sure.'

I agree, but the Elves who have the three rings are not corrupted. One of them was Galadriël. I guess Elrond and Celeborn are the others, but I know Galadriël has Nenya, the Water (or Diamond) Ring.

The following is a rambling from reading too much of Tolkien's work:

The Silmarillion explains that Orcs are indeed Elves captured and corrupted by Morgoth, Sauron's master in the First Age of Middle Earth, soon after Elves first appeared.

Originally, the three rings were given to Cirdan, a shipwright, Galadriel, and Gil-Galad, an Elven king. Cirdan knew the burdens Gandalf must bear, and lent Narnya, his ring of fire, to the wizard. Gil-Galad was among those slain in the great battle that felled Sauron, and his ring passed on to Elrond, his then squire (I think).

Thanks. I forgot Gandalf had one of the rings too. Anyway, I'm trying to read the Silmarillion now, so I'll find it out soon enough.

Hm, I've got it somewhere... When I find it, I'll post it.

Bit late for my two pennies worth... but I think I beat you all to the movie:
worldwide release on december 17th and I left the cinema after having seen it at quarter to 4 the morning of the 17th....
(Marathon viewing which started at 4pm on the 16th with part three starting at one minute past midnight)