Reply to Re: Should America go to war?
If you don't have an account, just leave the password field blank.
i kinda agree with scratcher that america should get nuked- an insane amount of countries have had wars on them, america is normally the attacker, but when america gets attacked, they go insane and start crying and whining and buying millions of miniature of american flags and constantly saying *god bless america*.
Um... huh? Yeah... those dang mini flags... they just hurt everyone else in the world. So you're upset that Americans didn't do anything, and when they decide to do something (i.e. attack Iraq) that's a big no-no?
And didn't bush even say that god was on america's side *laf*
Religious folk are a bit weird like that... but its no different than in sports and such. Everyone who is religious believes that God is on their side (usually). It isn't any more complex than that.
lets put it this way, if John Smith and Max Power were running for president, its obvious that Max Power would win since he has the cooler name.
That's the stupidest thing I've ever read in my entire life. GORE is a kick-ass name, whereas Bush... ooh, a shrub. I want some blood and GORE with my government, please.
if there was a guy named dink smallwood running for president, would you vote for him if you were old enough?
Depends if he was another stupid politician (ala Bush, Gore, etc.) or a (mostly) honest guy like McCain.
if iraq does have chemical and nuclear weapons, why would they use them on the U.S. if U.S. would just keep to their own business?
Aha, but why would Iraq develop chemical and nuclear weapons if it didn't intend to use them on the Big Satan (ala America)?
America should live like the canadians, the canadians are almost never in a war, and its a great country.
America doesn't go to war all too much. Really. Let's see...
1) Revolution, to get away from Britain.
2) War of 1812, where Britain decided to try to take the US back.
3) Civil War, which didn't really bother anyone else.
4) World War I, to save Europe's butt.
5) World War II, to get revenge on Japan and save Europe's butt.
6) The Korea and Vietnam military actions, to try to stop the 'plague' of communism.
7) The Gulf War, to get some cheap oil while saving a country from being invaded.
8) Misc other small actions... Milosevic (I forget what country that was in), Afghanistan, etc.)
So... the USA is war-provoking. I half-agree. But... really, are you afraid that George W. Bush is going to send a Nuclear Missile or other Weapon of Mass Destruction at any other country without provocation? There really isn't any chance of that.
However, there is a somewhat good chance (in my mind) that the Iraqi government might send missiles at another country (USA or Israel) unprovoked. Well, there is a better chance of Saddamm doing it than GWB.
And why do you hate America? It isn't like its a dictatorship under an iron fist... its a government that (usually) works, where votes were almost 50/50, unlike in Iraq where Saddamm got like 100% of the votes.
Yes, there are plenty of problems with America, and it seems to have found itself in the terrible position as the most powerful country in the world. Really... lets say tomorrow all of America gets wiped out by an alien invasion, only interested in the McDonald's-fed masses of America. What would happen if your country all of a sudden got thrust upon it the designation of the most powerful country in the world? All of its actions with other countries would then be a big event...
Eh, that's enough of a (incoherent) rant, but I do want to touch on one more thing, that I think was discussed in this thread.
The Nuclear Bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki... horrible. But wars are horrible.
Here is the decision Truman faced:
1) Send ground troops in to force Japan to surrender. High US casualties, and high Japanese civilian casualties (at least a million each). The Japanese governement was training the civilian population for months to repel a US invasion... most were going to die fighting, and little kids were taught to stab any US soldiers with sharpened sticks.
2) Use nuclear bombs to harm Japan's war industry... Japanese civilian deaths would be quite substantial (as they would be in option 1), but it would save many US troops.
There really isn't any reason to pick option 1. Japan was ready to fight to the death.
Um... huh? Yeah... those dang mini flags... they just hurt everyone else in the world. So you're upset that Americans didn't do anything, and when they decide to do something (i.e. attack Iraq) that's a big no-no?
And didn't bush even say that god was on america's side *laf*
Religious folk are a bit weird like that... but its no different than in sports and such. Everyone who is religious believes that God is on their side (usually). It isn't any more complex than that.
lets put it this way, if John Smith and Max Power were running for president, its obvious that Max Power would win since he has the cooler name.
That's the stupidest thing I've ever read in my entire life. GORE is a kick-ass name, whereas Bush... ooh, a shrub. I want some blood and GORE with my government, please.
if there was a guy named dink smallwood running for president, would you vote for him if you were old enough?
Depends if he was another stupid politician (ala Bush, Gore, etc.) or a (mostly) honest guy like McCain.
if iraq does have chemical and nuclear weapons, why would they use them on the U.S. if U.S. would just keep to their own business?
Aha, but why would Iraq develop chemical and nuclear weapons if it didn't intend to use them on the Big Satan (ala America)?
America should live like the canadians, the canadians are almost never in a war, and its a great country.
America doesn't go to war all too much. Really. Let's see...
1) Revolution, to get away from Britain.
2) War of 1812, where Britain decided to try to take the US back.
3) Civil War, which didn't really bother anyone else.
4) World War I, to save Europe's butt.
5) World War II, to get revenge on Japan and save Europe's butt.
6) The Korea and Vietnam military actions, to try to stop the 'plague' of communism.
7) The Gulf War, to get some cheap oil while saving a country from being invaded.
8) Misc other small actions... Milosevic (I forget what country that was in), Afghanistan, etc.)
So... the USA is war-provoking. I half-agree. But... really, are you afraid that George W. Bush is going to send a Nuclear Missile or other Weapon of Mass Destruction at any other country without provocation? There really isn't any chance of that.
However, there is a somewhat good chance (in my mind) that the Iraqi government might send missiles at another country (USA or Israel) unprovoked. Well, there is a better chance of Saddamm doing it than GWB.
And why do you hate America? It isn't like its a dictatorship under an iron fist... its a government that (usually) works, where votes were almost 50/50, unlike in Iraq where Saddamm got like 100% of the votes.
Yes, there are plenty of problems with America, and it seems to have found itself in the terrible position as the most powerful country in the world. Really... lets say tomorrow all of America gets wiped out by an alien invasion, only interested in the McDonald's-fed masses of America. What would happen if your country all of a sudden got thrust upon it the designation of the most powerful country in the world? All of its actions with other countries would then be a big event...
Eh, that's enough of a (incoherent) rant, but I do want to touch on one more thing, that I think was discussed in this thread.
The Nuclear Bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki... horrible. But wars are horrible.
Here is the decision Truman faced:
1) Send ground troops in to force Japan to surrender. High US casualties, and high Japanese civilian casualties (at least a million each). The Japanese governement was training the civilian population for months to repel a US invasion... most were going to die fighting, and little kids were taught to stab any US soldiers with sharpened sticks.
2) Use nuclear bombs to harm Japan's war industry... Japanese civilian deaths would be quite substantial (as they would be in option 1), but it would save many US troops.
There really isn't any reason to pick option 1. Japan was ready to fight to the death.
