Dink on YouTube, MIDI Conent ID matched
As few of you have known for awhile I have a YouTube channel where I've posted some demos of mods I've been working on (no longer sadly)
I've recently noticed that one of my vids has been ID matched concerning a MIDI playing in game. Is this legit? I'm not sure how to handle the situation as I'd like to start making more vids and not get shut down for some idiotic reason.
The whole thing scares me away from making more Dink related videos as it's common for DMODs to use MIDIs of popular music.
I know some of you guys make Dink videos, so maybe you've already come across this issue. Any help regarding this situation would be appreciated.
I've recently noticed that one of my vids has been ID matched concerning a MIDI playing in game. Is this legit? I'm not sure how to handle the situation as I'd like to start making more vids and not get shut down for some idiotic reason.
The whole thing scares me away from making more Dink related videos as it's common for DMODs to use MIDIs of popular music.
I know some of you guys make Dink videos, so maybe you've already come across this issue. Any help regarding this situation would be appreciated.
Zek diz
Technically, that shouldn't help with a copyright claim concerning a third party midi, but disputing the ID claim with a link to Seth's statement is still worth a shot, IMO, since it sounds like the ID match was issued by just some automated bullshit tag machine.
I don't have any experience with copyright issues on Youtube myself, so take this advice with that in mind, but reading their help page, the distinct impression I get is that you should dispute copyright claims, always. Even if you WERE blatantly ripping off copyrighted material, at least that way you'll force some poor shmuck to actually waste their time checking the thing. Much better than just conforming to a claim issued by a machine.
Technically, that shouldn't help with a copyright claim concerning a third party midi, but disputing the ID claim with a link to Seth's statement is still worth a shot, IMO, since it sounds like the ID match was issued by just some automated bullshit tag machine.
I don't have any experience with copyright issues on Youtube myself, so take this advice with that in mind, but reading their help page, the distinct impression I get is that you should dispute copyright claims, always. Even if you WERE blatantly ripping off copyrighted material, at least that way you'll force some poor shmuck to actually waste their time checking the thing. Much better than just conforming to a claim issued by a machine.
Thanks for the link, I will indeed look into it more when I get off work.
As far as disputing. I couldnt agree more with you, but when I initially looked into it (aside from being confused on which reason to choose) it was written something to the effect of if you dispute a claim and whoever made said claim wins it, you get a strike on your account. That's what really put me off.
As far as I know the video in question is still up and not harming anything
Edit
On reading into the thread, that doesn't appear to cover the issue of being content ID'd for music, but seems to be related to Dink Smallwood (the game itself) being copyrighted. I don't think that solution applies here.
As far as disputing. I couldnt agree more with you, but when I initially looked into it (aside from being confused on which reason to choose) it was written something to the effect of if you dispute a claim and whoever made said claim wins it, you get a strike on your account. That's what really put me off.
As far as I know the video in question is still up and not harming anything
Edit
On reading into the thread, that doesn't appear to cover the issue of being content ID'd for music, but seems to be related to Dink Smallwood (the game itself) being copyrighted. I don't think that solution applies here.
"As far as disputing. I couldnt agree more with you, but when I initially looked into it (aside from being confused on which reason to choose) it was written something to the effect of if you dispute a claim and whoever made said claim wins it, you get a strike on your account. That's what really put me off."
Unfortunately a lot of the time even when disputing things that clearly aren't copyright breaches, they still reject your dispute. That being said, it's worth a try anyway. I know they say they put a strike on your account, but let's just put it this way: Between DSPT and Random431 (my other gaming channel), I have lost count of how many disputes I have put in, I have not received one strike on either account, and in fact, I'm even a youtube partner on Random431 and these disputes have never affected that either, and I have not been successful in some of my disputes. I recommend putting in a dispute anyway, it's extremely rare you would get a strike - I've never had one. Worst case scenario, they simply reject your dispute, and your video stays up with the content ID match, nothing changes with the video, but if you're lucky, they'll actually remove the content ID claim.
For a midi file, I have had one successful claim and one rejected claim, using the following method, so it's worth a try if you want to give it a go:
-Find the video in video manager and clcik on the "Matched third party content" under the video.
-Click on 'File a dispute'
-Click on 'The content is in the public domain or is not eligible for copyright protection' and click next.
-Check the box 'I am sure that all the content is ineligible for copyright protection, and I want to dispute this claim' and click continue.
-Type a simple explanation explaining it is a midi and it is in the public domain, I used the following explanation: "The content in question is a MIDI file which came from a public domain that allows the usage of the MIDI. It is not eligible for copyright protection.".
-Check the box, type your name and click continue, and then wait - they will either remove the Content ID claim, or simply reject the dispute.
Like I said, I've had one successful and one failed dispute using this simple explanation, and the reason one of them failed was simply because they wanted me to provide a link to the website as proof the MIDI is free to use, and I didn't know which site the midi came from, so I simply ignored it and let them keep their content ID claim (in the case they want more information or proof, they will just give you a time limit, in which if you don't provide the information the dispute will be rejected). The dispute that was successful on the other hand went straight through, they didn't even ask for proof, so I guess it's just luck of the draw lol.
I have also heard many people on youtube that have had the disputes rejected regarding midi files have actually emailed the music company listed under the 'content ID claim' and explained that youtube's copyright filter has picked this up by mistake because it is a MIDI file, and the music company actually removed the claim for them. I haven't tried this because I can't really be bothered, it doesn't bother me enough to waste my time doing that, especially since if the dispute is rejected, the video remains on your channel and they just run a few small ads underneath it sometimes.
Unfortunately a lot of the time even when disputing things that clearly aren't copyright breaches, they still reject your dispute. That being said, it's worth a try anyway. I know they say they put a strike on your account, but let's just put it this way: Between DSPT and Random431 (my other gaming channel), I have lost count of how many disputes I have put in, I have not received one strike on either account, and in fact, I'm even a youtube partner on Random431 and these disputes have never affected that either, and I have not been successful in some of my disputes. I recommend putting in a dispute anyway, it's extremely rare you would get a strike - I've never had one. Worst case scenario, they simply reject your dispute, and your video stays up with the content ID match, nothing changes with the video, but if you're lucky, they'll actually remove the content ID claim.
For a midi file, I have had one successful claim and one rejected claim, using the following method, so it's worth a try if you want to give it a go:
-Find the video in video manager and clcik on the "Matched third party content" under the video.
-Click on 'File a dispute'
-Click on 'The content is in the public domain or is not eligible for copyright protection' and click next.
-Check the box 'I am sure that all the content is ineligible for copyright protection, and I want to dispute this claim' and click continue.
-Type a simple explanation explaining it is a midi and it is in the public domain, I used the following explanation: "The content in question is a MIDI file which came from a public domain that allows the usage of the MIDI. It is not eligible for copyright protection.".
-Check the box, type your name and click continue, and then wait - they will either remove the Content ID claim, or simply reject the dispute.
Like I said, I've had one successful and one failed dispute using this simple explanation, and the reason one of them failed was simply because they wanted me to provide a link to the website as proof the MIDI is free to use, and I didn't know which site the midi came from, so I simply ignored it and let them keep their content ID claim (in the case they want more information or proof, they will just give you a time limit, in which if you don't provide the information the dispute will be rejected). The dispute that was successful on the other hand went straight through, they didn't even ask for proof, so I guess it's just luck of the draw lol.
I have also heard many people on youtube that have had the disputes rejected regarding midi files have actually emailed the music company listed under the 'content ID claim' and explained that youtube's copyright filter has picked this up by mistake because it is a MIDI file, and the music company actually removed the claim for them. I haven't tried this because I can't really be bothered, it doesn't bother me enough to waste my time doing that, especially since if the dispute is rejected, the video remains on your channel and they just run a few small ads underneath it sometimes.
Thank you for your well written, informative response. I don't think I'm going to mess with the video in question right now as I'm not going to monetize it (being a demo of a project I'm no longer working on and all), but I'm bookmarking this page right now for future reference.
Hopefully I'll be able to stream/record Dink without worrying about it so much now.
Hopefully I'll be able to stream/record Dink without worrying about it so much now.
