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I'm aware it will take a long time, and be tedious, but I want to try it.

I have no software or anything like that, nothing but Dfarc, and I think I think I could be able to make it, if I have an overlay and simply put the graphics onto that, like make a layer with a picture of a person on it facing numerous directions, then work off that, put another layer, and go over that.

I want to do it.

What sort of new sprite, a character - tree, duck

The most complicated one, of course.

A character.

screams and runs off

I'm screwed.

So yes a huge amount of effort to go into that.

You have to create a sprite (picture saved as a bmp)and do movement for every direction up down back forth sideways and other way sideways

So you will need some kind of graphics software - paint can do it apparently but if you are really keen download a demo of something with better capabilities

Isn't there like a specific software that takes sprites and puts them in an editing software? It does that for icons, I remember having some softwares.....

err i remember the icon one - but um no not that i know of you are gunna have to do it one by one

It had like a grid for every pixel, do you remember what it was czalled?

oh heck that was years ago - but hehe I have it on a disk somewhere heh but no something like 'Icon maker' or something really cute like that lol

like this one?

Look up "sprite editing software" on Google. There is specific software for it, yes, but also ways to make other software do what you need, such as Paintshop, Photoshop, Gimp, Paint.Net, ...

You can always ask IPD for help. He's pretty much the best artist we have around here nowadays.

EDIT: Not saying he will do it, but he has lots of experience and can help by explaining stuff and... stuff.

Is Allegro good?

Never heard of it.

Well what free ones would you recommend?

The one I posted says its free - for icons
You will have to just get a demo of anything else thats worth having. Tho most computers come with paint and sprites can be done in that. My preference over photoshop is paint shop pro (I have used both extensively). Paintshop pro is more user friendly I think

Oh yeah...

Probably helps that free is in the URL right?

I'm a stupid.

hehe np I think if you can use a program it doesnt matter what others think of it, you will get the desired effects with whatever you can use efficiently. Including yucky mspaint

Graphics Gale
is REALLY good. I personally use MS Paint + Gimp

Ookay, I'm opening up my Dink directory, going to Dink Idle animations, then it just shows "dir.ff" and I don't know what to work off of.

Thanks a lot. Now i just need to find some refs....

Gad this is going to be painful.

Wow, I'm actually doing a good job.

Well show us some progress pics when you get to it

Will do after first image

Also, it's a very heavily modified Dink Smallwood. I went over it, I didn't start from scratch.

The picture's probably too small but

http://public.fotki.com/Foxtrot-/dink-characters/?view=roll

It is too small indeed.

Looks cool, but will take AGES to make all animations! O.O

I recommend using a 3d modelling and animation program (like Blender 3d).
It takes some time to learn but once you have you'll be able to make really good graphics, that looks a lot more like the in-game ones. Look up Blender and try some basic tutorial to see if you like it.

If you decide to use it you can always ask me for help, if there's something you don't understand

(Like rendering stuff with a dink-like shadow... took me quite a while to figure out!)

EDIT:
MAybe I'll make some blender tutorials someday, focused on making dink graphics...

I can't use and basic photo sharing websites. I have to use obscure ones.

Doesn't work.

try tinypic

Tinypic isn't obscure enough, apparently.

Get started on those tutorials NAO

What tutorials?

I just need a photo sharing website that's very obscure.

Not you, iPlayDink's tutorials

I'm having trouble with Graphics Gale.

I see no eraser tool.

Is this alright for a first go?

http://public.fotki.com/Yesnoyes/jason/dar.html

It's actually fairly good. I think ingame it will look better than the pixelated picture.

But, now the hard part, getting that reskin animated

I'm going to remake it, it's too hard to know what it is.

Can I have an eraser tool in GraphicsGale Freeware? I can't find it.

C'mooon. I can't find it anywhere.

I haven't worked with Graphics Gale, but it looks like other people have also had this problem.

Well, I need to know how to find the eraser.

A wild guess: paint over with white?

So... in Dink Smallwood, white = transparency?

Oh duck, I need to fix some stuff.

Yeah solid white (R: 255, G: 255, B: 255) is transparant in dink

So 254 254 254 would translate as white, not transparent?

That shouldn't be hard to fix.

So if you need something to be white, you have to make sure it's all a little off-white, right?

EDIT: Oh, heh. Kerrek beat me to it.

REmember that the game need to run in true color mode too, otherwise it'll show up as transparent anyways,,

I recommend modifying your start script so the dmod can't run without it. You can check with get_truecolor().

Just to let you guys know, I just play Dmods. I have no idea how to script, at all, nor any idea how to make a d-mod, no less put a sprite in the game that I edited.

Click here!

REad it, it's awesome.

I just need to figure out how to make shadows...

Click here!

This good?

http://public.fotki.com/Yesnoyes/jason/yrp.html

Yes that looks great to be honest, except it looks like the tail is in the front of the character instead of the back for some reason.

The feeling will go away once it's animated, I'm sure.

Also, can you tell me in specifics what you think it is so I can get a responce to see if people can tell what it is or not?

Good job, Kerrek.

Thanks.

I thought they were great. Oh and when you try to ghost as predator it says you appear to be a spambot .

Also, can you tell me in specifics what you think it is so I can get a responce to see if people can tell what it is or not?

It looks like a muscley animal person cyborg (a fox?). I think the reason the tail might look like it's in front is that it sort of blends in with his leg, but the shadow on the leg helps to distinguish between them.

I fixed it, thanks.

Well, time to waste like 20 hours doing the rest.

Oh my god... so tedious.

I give up.

Rrrr anyone want to help me with this?

all i can say is dont quiet i like codes no art for me .

I can't do it all by myself without giving up 1/8 of the way through.

May be tedious Kerrek but you are doing a fantastic job, dont listen to nay sayers, just get it finished and do the fine tuning later, those are seriously good

Try the up down left and right to start with - weapons, idle and push can come later

*claps*

your not alone you made this thread to dump all the crap your computer gives you on pred .

why did you do that Mrgantoe? come on dont huh

I give up

in my defence there was a .

(pred smilies mean no offence in the dink network world)

get a good sleep then you can give up your tired try doing it when your at your best.

really sad now you were doing so well, try one sequence at a time and dont rush thru it in one day so you get sick of it - have a break and have another go

I need some dang help with this thing.

what do you need and i will have motivation in the morning ok.

Looking great, Kerrek. If you complete this, you will have made the first Anthropomorph hero for a Dink game.
I would help you, but I've found pixel art is one of those very individual artforms that really expresses the individual imagination. good luck, friend.

Oh and check this out for GraphicsGale Tuts

With how people in the interwebs are now, I'm not sure I'd want to have the first furry in a Dink Smallwood game ever medal.

Don't worry, no one knows about paheal.net here

I need help with my dang sprite. can't someone help me?

what do you need.

Help.

with what

Making my sprites.

it's too tedious.

I need an actual question.

In the meen time my motivation Beat this in my opinion you already have just something to keep you going every time some one says you have I will improve it and you improve yours.

I don't think people can see that picture, Mrgantoe. I get redirected to my profile when I click it.

Oh only schnapper and ipd can see it probaly your right.

It may be tedious, but especially since your work already looks great, I think you shouldn't give up. It will reward you in the end. I've never been much of a graphics maker, but when I did make some animation graphics once, the dang thing took quite some time (and my work was nowhere near to your art here). Just keep making them. It takes time. It's normal it takes time. Just work on it for like, I don't know, a minute per day, for the next two years. At least that way, you'll keep yourself from getting bored with it.

Note, maybe a minute per day is slightly too little amount of time.

I don't think people can see that picture, Mrgantoe. I get redirected to my profile when I click it.

Which reminds me...

Oh come on don't give up now, you've already put work into something that's moving along nicely and it actually looks great.

And you might not think getting a medal in this community is worth much, but it's sure as hell worth more than being an anonymous non-contributor to anything on the interwebz.

I'm remaking the danged thing again.

I'm making it cleaner and more recognizable.

Okay, I'm like.. unnaturally pissed.

I literally got a blue screen for no reason.

ALL OF THE SUDDEN.

I LOST ALL MY WORK.

Oh, the joys of developing. Harddrives crash, progress gets lost... It's a conspiracy...

Sorry to hear you lost your work though.

Literally, the blue screen came out of nowhere, then my computer restarted before I had a chance to see what it was about.

Poor guy.

Pity you.

My sympathies.

My blue screens are so lame they always happen inside my screen. Yours are much more awesome cause they came out of nowhere and went into your screen.

But seriously though, that sucks.

Better get that govenor from LA to make an episode about this.

Okay, here's what I got.
http://public.fotki.com/Analbag/foxtrot/so-you-can-see.html

EDIT: Well, that attempt at epicness failed.

Awesome job, nonetheless.

Looks quite good.

BUT WHAT THE HELL IS IT? Some kind of a fabulous fox prostitute?

Duh.

That's what the whole Dmod's gonna be about.

He sells himself throughout Stonebrook, Kersin, and the game will have online high scores to see who got the most money.

Now because of that criticism I have to remake the danged thing.

AGAIN.

What criticism?

That could be funny... better yet, he's thrown into the role unwittingly, while acting as a maintanence man.... Actually, that just sounds like Mario.

That could be funny... better yet, he's thrown into the role unwittingly, while acting as a maintanence man... Actually, that sounds just like Mario.

Well, some day that'll work.

In the meantime i'm making this as a sprite.

http://www.halopedian.com/File pec_Ops.png
Replace the god dang space in the link with an S. I don't get why it keeps putting a space in the URL.

Well I think the bestial Dink was a more unique idea that would have opened up a lot of different storyline ideas

Afterwards. I got to get those images out of my mind.

I can't make sprites while I have a hard on.

wonders if that was quote worthy

Nah

Well, new topic.

http://www.dinknetwork.com/forum.cgi?MID=141483&Posts=3

Okay, finished the first part of my Spec Ops elite.

I'm not good with small pixel shading. I just spam lights and darks. Don't know how to make it look good.

http://public.fotki.com/Bungholebob/elite/so-you-see.html

Scary.

You guys think I could have been an art designer for SNES games if I wasn't 13?

Do yeh?

Maybe... You seem pretty good.

Also, don't expect answers immediately, this is quite a lazy network so it could take days, even weeks sometimes for someone to answer.

We need more people to be on this website.

Not like.. 50 more, but like, 12.

The elite is probably the most unfitting thing ever to be made as a sprite in Dink Smallwood

Okay, this is going to be impossible for me.

I'm going to have to remake this thing for every pose, and I don't know if it'll even look the same for one thing, so I'll have to remake several ones numerous times.

Over and over again.

And I'll be lucky if I get them proportionate.

Such is graphics making.

What if you drew them on graph paper first? Maybe that would make the process easier.

Goog Idea up there^.

I'm going to have to remake this thing for every pose, and I don't know if it'll even look the same for one thing, so I'll have to remake several ones numerous times.

That's why Iplaydink suggested 3d modeling software for making characters. That way you can make a character once, animate it once and then shoot all the frames you need. You'll probably need to do some post-processing, but you know that all directions are the same and you always have the character in the right proportion. I must admit it is quite difficult to do though...

I'm never going to be a frame by frame graphics artist. I know that.

It'd be good if I had a model for the Spec Ops elite.

Maybe I could ask on the Bnet forums?

That's why you need software to animate things. Now, don't get me wrong, it is in fact possible to do this the way you're doing it, but then I would focus on a maximum of 7 frames or less per direction/animation.

Yeah what I said won't work.

it's not like i have any blender experience.

I just don't know what to do.

I can't do it without help, or the model.

I'm considering making them for you, but there's a 70% chance this will not be finished (most first dmods are never finished), and I wouldn't like wasting time on something that isn't going to be used.

Anyway, as this is your first mod I recommend useing excisting graphics, just focusing of learning dmodding.
.When people see that you can finish a dmod you'll gain respect, and I'm sure people will be more eeger to make graphics for you

I'm going through the DMOD making tutorials.

I'm at the hardness part.

Okay, I'm done DMODing for now. I made a small outside area, and a house with a stereotypical massacre inside.

No enemies, no hardness inside, because when I insert hardness nothing happens.

Hardness is just a female dog to work with sorry but it is keep it up.

I'm good at making places look good, it's hardness that gets me.

This is what happens:

I select one hardness block, and on screen it decides to pick the one to the left or right.

It's confusing.

Then put something Hardly noticeable on the left and the right of it then test your d-mod and deleat the one that serves no purpose.

What?

Windinkedit always picks the box to the left, download windinkedit plus, where this error doesn't occur.

Thanks.