Reply to Re: Monarchs and Popes are stupid.
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You're serious meta? Have you actually looked up a verse in that thing? I have, and not a single time have I seen a match for whatever verse someone is pointing out.
From your response I deduce that you think I'm off by a lot. If what you're saying is true then each version is quite radically different from another. Now instead of sourceless debating we could test things out. Here's a website having many different (English) translations of the bible, probably including all the ones in common use today. If what you say is true it shouldn't pose any difficulty to find any two verses in different translations that say something totally different. I challenge you, find any combination of two translations where the meaning of some part of the text is vastly different. Not just the wording, the meaning of the actual text. If I'm as far off as you claim this should be a piece of cake.
A new translation could alter a whole verse, change it slyly and make it more realistic to seem like a prophecy is coming true, could be edited to make it more violent, more "kid-friendly", whatever.
New translations are not simply adaptations of older translations. If they were then comparing the bible with a really bad case of the game telephone would be a pretty good description. If things are put in new translations that are very different in the source text then that translation is bad. It doesn't mean that the source text is bad, just that the translator did a bad job. If you want to discuss the bible you should probably take a translation that is closest to the source text, not whichever version best fits in with what you want to believe. This cuts both ways too, if the text you are referring to is only present in one translation and not in all of the other ones, then that particular translation is probably off. Unless off course you can proof that that translation is closer to the source material or if you just want to believe in a conspiracy theory for the hell of it.
EDIT: Also you can simply mention which translation you're using, probably more productive then saying 'it all depends on what version you're using'.
From your response I deduce that you think I'm off by a lot. If what you're saying is true then each version is quite radically different from another. Now instead of sourceless debating we could test things out. Here's a website having many different (English) translations of the bible, probably including all the ones in common use today. If what you say is true it shouldn't pose any difficulty to find any two verses in different translations that say something totally different. I challenge you, find any combination of two translations where the meaning of some part of the text is vastly different. Not just the wording, the meaning of the actual text. If I'm as far off as you claim this should be a piece of cake.
A new translation could alter a whole verse, change it slyly and make it more realistic to seem like a prophecy is coming true, could be edited to make it more violent, more "kid-friendly", whatever.
New translations are not simply adaptations of older translations. If they were then comparing the bible with a really bad case of the game telephone would be a pretty good description. If things are put in new translations that are very different in the source text then that translation is bad. It doesn't mean that the source text is bad, just that the translator did a bad job. If you want to discuss the bible you should probably take a translation that is closest to the source text, not whichever version best fits in with what you want to believe. This cuts both ways too, if the text you are referring to is only present in one translation and not in all of the other ones, then that particular translation is probably off. Unless off course you can proof that that translation is closer to the source material or if you just want to believe in a conspiracy theory for the hell of it.
EDIT: Also you can simply mention which translation you're using, probably more productive then saying 'it all depends on what version you're using'.
