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November 10th 2014, 07:20 AM
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Jesus himself even specifically said that there is a great power in this realm that even God doesn't comprehend.

Okay, I'm going to need that exact book and verse so I have something to add to the long list of reasons why I don't follow Christianity so I can get my father to stop trying to make me go to church.

Kris, you probably won't find it since there's 3 million billion versions of the Bible. Really, it's sad people have faith in something where the things in their "holy" book are never consistent.

Do you have any idea just how stupid you're sounding right now? You're just trying to be hurtful towards people that have believed in Christianity for the last 2000 years or so. However you're just showing off your own stupidity more than anything.

From archaeological studies and comparisons of different manuscripts written at different times it was shown that the differences that appeared over time where very small. There might be slightly different versions but those differences are very small, try reading up on the Dead Sea scrolls if you're interested. In reality the statement that there are 3 million billion versions is just your way to make sure you don't have to use actual data to present your opinion as fact. Note that Kris' question wasn't even an expression of disbelief, just a genuinely interested question to figure out the truth.

This statement about the different versions is actually kinda clever. It shifts the burden of proof towards people who say that this sentence is not in the bible. Proofing that something is not there is much harder than proofing that something is there, so this is not a fair way to shift the burden of proof. And even when someone reads through the entire bible and finds that this statement isn't there you still get away with it because it is present only in one of those '3 million billion versions', probably the one off which there only exists a single version which just so happens to be on your bookshelf. You can get even more leeway if you say that this sentence might not be present literally, but 'some text of similar content' is. So even when someone does read every version there is you could still get away with it by saying that it is present in some version (of course you won't say which one) but with slightly different wording.

If you want to present any opinion as fact you might be slightly more credible if you can give some specifics. Saying "this text can be found in 1 Peter 1:12" is a lot more credible than saying "You probably can't find it, but it is there, in some version". That last statement is more like saying "I don't care what the evidence says, it's true because I say so!" Right now your notions of Christianity are even less convincing than Predator's review about Civilization Beyond Earth. And that's saying a lot.

Now I'm not saying that this should be a serious discussion about Christianity, I'm just saying how incredibly stupid you look in this thread.