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Jan 10 00:22:34 <Invertigo> hello
Jan 10 00:22:42 <Invertigo> just visiting once again for no good reason
Jan 10 00:23:44 <Invertigo> hm
Jan 10 00:23:51 <Invertigo> and the room is empty once again
Jan 10 00:24:01 <Invertigo> or at least just temporarily dead
Jan 10 00:24:51 <Invertigo> well, i have a message for the dead
Jan 10 00:24:57 <Invertigo> "g00dbye "
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Jan 10 01:59:02 <Magicman> Hello...
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Jan 10 02:06:11 <SimonK> hi de ho
Jan 10 02:06:51 <Magicman> Hello
Jan 10 02:07:02 <SimonK> Hmmm... big chat
Jan 10 02:07:42 <Magicman> not really...
Jan 10 02:08:50 <SimonK> Ah the beauty of sarcasm falls into the abyss of the ether(net)
Jan 10 02:09:43 <Magicman> Sabre probably won't show up, as usual...
Jan 10 02:10:09 <Magicman> problems with his CPU or something
Jan 10 02:10:14 <SimonK> Hmmm... oh well
Jan 10 02:11:55 <SimonK> Was there an agenda or topic for this chat?
Jan 10 02:12:13 <Magicman> Well...
Jan 10 02:12:15 <Magicman> I hope lot's of people attend, and subjects will include...
Jan 10 02:12:15 <Magicman> The Contest!
Jan 10 02:12:15 <Magicman> New Years Resolutions!
Jan 10 02:12:15 <Magicman> And just why I should be given a Nobel Prize!
Jan 10 02:12:22 <Magicman> this is what Sabre posted
Jan 10 02:13:01 <SimonK> Your or sabre for the nobel prize?
Jan 10 02:13:09 <SimonK> *you I meant
Jan 10 02:13:21 <Magicman> Sabre
Jan 10 02:13:32 <Magicman> but I won't mind talking about me
Jan 10 02:13:33 <Magicman>
Jan 10 02:13:56 <SimonK> More likely Noobie Prize
Jan 10 02:14:08 <SimonK> Okay, let's talk Magicman
Jan 10 02:14:12 <SimonK> So... what's up
Jan 10 02:14:26 <Magicman> Nothing special
Jan 10 02:14:33 <Magicman> just that I got early to bed yesterday
Jan 10 02:14:41 <Magicman> just so I didn't sleep over the chat
Jan 10 02:14:56 <SimonK> What time is it where you are?
Jan 10 02:15:05 <Magicman> 10:15 AM at the momen
Jan 10 02:15:09 <Magicman> t
Jan 10 02:15:43 <Magicman> I usually sleep until 12:00 on saturdays
Jan 10 02:15:47 <SimonK> Hmmm, so why would you fall asleep, and which part of Europe are you in - somewhere around the same latitude as Oslo
Jan 10 02:16:01 <SimonK> Or is that longitude?
Jan 10 02:16:12 <Magicman> I live in Holland
Jan 10 02:16:19 <Magicman> and I guess it's longitude
Jan 10 02:16:23 <SimonK> Ah ha!
Jan 10 02:16:50 <SimonK> The Netherlands... home of many a Dinker
Jan 10 02:17:09 <Magicman> Too bad TheProphet left
Jan 10 02:17:26 <Magicman> he lived just 20 minutes of cycling from me
Jan 10 02:17:37 <Magicman> never met him, though
Jan 10 02:17:37 <SimonK> He's left... is that for certain
Jan 10 02:18:00 <SimonK> A scary thing to meet a Dinker in real life
Jan 10 02:18:27 <Magicman> No experience with that
Jan 10 02:18:41 <Magicman> Chris and me were discussing some Dutch Dink meeting on MSN
Jan 10 02:18:56 <SimonK> Me neither... not too many Dinkers in Australia, let alone Sydney
Jan 10 02:19:20 <Magicman> but it were only some wild ideas
Jan 10 02:19:53 <SimonK> Chris... as in Christian
Jan 10 02:20:22 <Magicman> Yes, that one
Jan 10 02:20:36 <Magicman> strange guy
Jan 10 02:20:45 <Magicman> but really cool... on MSN anyway
Jan 10 02:21:24 <SimonK> Yes.. he's making a big DMOD I think
Jan 10 02:21:40 <Magicman> True
Jan 10 02:21:45 <Magicman> I work with him on that one
Jan 10 02:22:00 <Magicman> So do you, al far as I've heard
Jan 10 02:22:29 <SimonK> I did a graphic for a save machine, but he didn't want it... so I released it to the network.
Jan 10 02:22:38 <SimonK> I think that's about all he's asked me to do
Jan 10 02:22:58 <SimonK> Joshriot has asked for a windmill, and I still have to redo the one I sent him
Jan 10 02:23:08 <SimonK> But I'm been kinda lazy
Jan 10 02:23:26 <Magicman> I guess all Dinkers are
Jan 10 02:24:33 <Magicman> It took me two months to write three scripts
Jan 10 02:24:52 <SimonK> Yeah... I'm more interested in Blender at the moment, and it's game engine
Jan 10 02:25:16 <Magicman> Yes, it's an interesting program
Jan 10 02:25:41 <Magicman> It's very complex, right?
Jan 10 02:25:45 <Magicman> never really used it
Jan 10 02:26:04 <SimonK> Yeah it can be pretty complex. Just depends on what you're trying to do.
Jan 10 02:26:27 <SimonK> I'm trying to figure out how to get the game engine to work, and I haven't got a manual for it...
Jan 10 02:26:44 <SimonK> So it's a case of look for tutorials on the net and trial and error.
Jan 10 02:26:50 <SimonK> I need lots of trial and error
Jan 10 02:26:59 <Magicman> There are many samples included with balls that move over some surface
Jan 10 02:27:09 <Magicman> at least, they were included in my version
Jan 10 02:27:59 <SimonK> Yeah... I can get a ball thing moving, but I want the camera to move with it, and then have a key which let's you change to first person shooter mode, all of which can be done
Jan 10 02:28:08 <SimonK> I just gotta figure out Python and stuff
Jan 10 02:29:03 <Magicman> never heard of Python before I started Blender
Jan 10 02:29:23 <Magicman> or it must be Monty Python... but that's something completely different
Jan 10 02:29:27 <SimonK> Me neither... haven't really done much yet
Jan 10 02:29:55 <SimonK> My only program language/scripting stuff is some java, some Basic (many, many years ago) and DinkC
Jan 10 02:30:01 <SimonK> Hahahaha
Jan 10 02:30:20 <Magicman> That's about all I know too
Jan 10 02:30:30 <Magicman> well, I can do some HTML, QBasic and DinkC
Jan 10 02:30:38 <Magicman> and a tiny little bit of JavaScript
Jan 10 02:31:07 <SimonK> Hmmm, yes some html I know... but not much... I stopped trying to learn it when style sheets came in
Jan 10 02:33:14 <Magicman> style sheets are usefull, and it sounds more difficult than it is really
Jan 10 02:33:22 <DN-Phoenix> *yawn*
Jan 10 02:33:37 <Magicman> just like adding graphics to Dink, you have to try it
Jan 10 02:33:43 <Magicman> Oh, good morning, Phoenix
Jan 10 02:33:51 <SimonK> yeah I guess so
Jan 10 02:33:51 <DN-Phoenix> He-lo.
Jan 10 02:33:56 <Magicman> Had a nice sleep?
Jan 10 02:34:04 <DN-Phoenix> I guess so.
Jan 10 02:35:24 <SimonK> So Phoenix, how's EasyDinkC 2 coming along...
Jan 10 02:35:41 <DN-Phoenix> it's on a standstill atm.. I'm.. bored with mostly anything.
Jan 10 02:36:05 <SimonK> bummer, it was looking good on those screenshots
Jan 10 02:36:18 <DN-Phoenix> it's working well so far too..
Jan 10 02:36:28 <DN-Phoenix> but I uh.. don't feel like working on it.
Jan 10 02:36:42 <SimonK> So how much more is there to do
Jan 10 02:36:55 <DN-Phoenix> Quite a lot.
Jan 10 02:37:06 <SimonK> double bummmer
Jan 10 02:37:16 <Magicman> Like what?
Jan 10 02:37:39 <DN-Phoenix> like adding all the things that makes it "easy"
Jan 10 02:38:11 <Magicman> Submit it as "DifficultDinkC" then
Jan 10 02:38:20 <DN-Phoenix> heh.
Jan 10 02:38:32 <SimonK> Or as an alpha release...
Jan 10 02:38:50 <SimonK> and then get bugged by all the people emailing you asking for changes, updates, requests
Jan 10 02:38:59 <SimonK> :-\
Jan 10 02:39:03 <Magicman> people like me
Jan 10 02:39:06 <DN-Phoenix> well, you can't save yet, and it cannot detect if you've changed the document..
Jan 10 02:39:29 <Magicman> Oy, that would be Uber-DifficultDinkC
Jan 10 02:39:41 <Magicman> Copy every script to Notepad before saving it
Jan 10 02:41:10 <Magicman> This chat is going on slow. 40 minutes already, and only we three talking
Jan 10 02:41:13 <DN-Phoenix> anyway, you guys are in luck, I just felt like working a little on it.
Jan 10 02:41:19 <Magicman> WOOOHOOO
Jan 10 02:41:55 <SimonK> yeah baby
Jan 10 02:42:10 <SimonK> Me... I just read the thing about purple bananas on the DN
Jan 10 02:42:33 <SimonK> I might just make some as a new enemie... that casts... banana smoothies as a weapon
Jan 10 02:42:38 <SimonK> *enemy
Jan 10 02:43:27 <SimonK> Or a Bouncing Banana in a blender that casts purple banana missiles...
Jan 10 02:43:31 <SimonK> But I'm rambling here
Jan 10 02:44:19 <Magicman> You know the puke-graphics from Mystery Island?
Jan 10 02:44:35 <DN-Phoenix> I'm kinda sad about the DinkC++ and the new Dink engine though. I feel like my work is just a waste.
Jan 10 02:45:10 <Magicman> I feel DinkC++ is getting more difficult than DinkC
Jan 10 02:45:25 <Magicman> so the newbies will have a harder time making a DMod
Jan 10 02:46:37 <SimonK> Hmmm, what's the status of all that
Jan 10 02:46:53 <DN-Phoenix> It'll be more like this: (for a choice menu for instance
Jan 10 02:46:53 <DN-Phoenix> Choice.Title="wahaha"
Jan 10 02:46:53 <DN-Phoenix> Choice.Color="Wahahaa"
Jan 10 02:46:53 <DN-Phoenix> Choice.Y=23
Jan 10 02:46:53 <DN-Phoenix> Choice.Show
Jan 10 02:46:56 <DN-Phoenix> or something
Jan 10 02:47:28 <SimonK> I see
Jan 10 02:47:37 <DN-Phoenix> at least that's what I think of when I think of an OOP oriented language.
Jan 10 02:47:45 <DN-Phoenix> they may have something more difficult in mind.
Jan 10 02:47:59 <SimonK> Well the community will decide it's popularity I guess
Jan 10 02:48:18 <Magicman> Experienced programmers would just think it rules
Jan 10 02:48:27 <Magicman> but the new people...
Jan 10 02:48:28 <DN-Phoenix> I never saw what was wrong with the original dink in the first place.. if they could just fix that up, then it would be good.
Jan 10 02:48:45 <DN-Phoenix> add a few features and such, to make it more up to date.
Jan 10 02:49:12 <SimonK> Dan added a couple for his redink.exe which were good
Jan 10 02:49:43 <SimonK> screenlock bug fix, animating tiles fixed, changing palettes on the fly and the palette bmps no longer have to be 640 by 400
Jan 10 02:52:00 <SimonK> plus a couple of extra math funtions
Jan 10 02:52:25 <SimonK> Butterscotch snapps and coffee is an interesting mix
Jan 10 02:53:02 <Magicman> And that has to do anything with redink.exe?
Jan 10 02:53:18 <Magicman>
Jan 10 02:53:19 <SimonK> No that was the request he did add
Jan 10 02:53:24 <SimonK> *didn't
Jan 10 02:57:07 <Magicman> You know what I re-discovered last week?
Jan 10 02:57:23 <SimonK> gravity
Jan 10 02:57:32 <Magicman> Oh, that one too...
Jan 10 02:57:38 <Magicman> but I meant DOOM
Jan 10 02:57:55 <SimonK> oh yeah... i used to love that game
Jan 10 02:58:02 <Magicman> It's the first retro-game that made me an addict since Dink
Jan 10 02:58:35 --- DN-Phoenix is now known as DN-Phoenix|food
Jan 10 02:58:51 <SimonK> That was one of the second game I made a mod for... first was Wolfenstien
Jan 10 03:00:00 <Magicman> Ah, you too have something in your mind that says: "Hmm, game with mod-support... Must... make... mod... must"
Jan 10 03:00:09 <Magicman> well... I have, anyway
Jan 10 03:02:41 <SimonK> Well Wolfenstien was the first "first person shooter"... and it had an editor... and it had zombies... yeah hah!
Jan 10 03:02:51 <SimonK> Doom for me was the ultimate
Jan 10 03:03:05 <SimonK> I used to deathmatch on BBS in sydney and at work
Jan 10 03:04:29 <Magicman> I still like it
Jan 10 03:04:32 <Magicman> the simplicity
Jan 10 03:04:52 <Magicman> the ambience
Jan 10 03:05:52 <SimonK> Yeah... I interested in seeing what DOOM 3 is like, but it seems to take forever to get released
Jan 10 03:07:14 <Magicman> It might get the "Daikatana"-award
Jan 10 03:07:28 <SimonK> What's that?
Jan 10 03:07:53 <Magicman> Well, "Daikatana" was delayed very much
Jan 10 03:08:09 <Magicman> véry much
Jan 10 03:08:25 <Magicman> like Diablo II, and almost any Blizzard game
Jan 10 03:08:41 <Magicman> but Daikatana is the king of the delays
Jan 10 03:08:48 <SimonK> ah...
Jan 10 03:08:53 <SimonK> I might have guessed
Jan 10 03:08:59 <Magicman> At least, that's what I've heard
Jan 10 03:20:33 <SimonK> Hmmm, so i guess that was the chat
Jan 10 03:21:19 <Magicman> I expected more of it, though
Jan 10 03:21:35 <Magicman> More people to come
Jan 10 03:22:35 <SimonK> Hey, did the stats page get taken down?
Jan 10 03:22:40 <Magicman> yes...
Jan 10 03:22:49 <Magicman> a long time ago
Jan 10 03:23:09 <SimonK> any reason why
Jan 10 03:24:42 <Magicman> maybe there weren't enough visitors
Jan 10 03:24:51 <Magicman> or Phoenix was a bored as he is now
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Jan 10 03:27:48 <SimonK> here's a site for a RPG someone's doing in game blender... looks interesting.... http://project-blender.onlinehome.de/TQ-Pics/Twilight-Quest.html
Jan 10 03:27:57 <Magicman> hi megiddo!
Jan 10 03:27:59 <SimonK> hi there
Jan 10 03:28:04 --- DN-Phoenix|food is now known as DN-Phoenix
Jan 10 03:28:07 <megiddo> hey all
Jan 10 03:28:17 <megiddo> how's it?
Jan 10 03:28:21 <DN-Phoenix> the stats were taken down because I could not leave my PC on 24/7
Jan 10 03:28:32 <SimonK> ah...
Jan 10 03:28:39 <Magicman> that's a good reason
Jan 10 03:28:45 <SimonK> I thought you were just going to log when you were on
Jan 10 03:28:57 <DN-Phoenix> that would make the stats very biased.
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Jan 10 03:29:34 <DN-Phoenix> most americans were on around midnight to 4 in the morning (my time)
Jan 10 03:30:23 <SimonK> Ah well... too bad... I think it kinda keep a bit of life to the chat
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Jan 10 03:30:36 <SimonK> It was an interesting page to read other people's old quotes
Jan 10 03:30:49 <SimonK> A trivia thing
Jan 10 03:30:55 <megiddo> first time on this applet...fell off the face of the world for a second there
Jan 10 03:31:05 <megiddo> will try not to do it again
Jan 10 03:31:31 <SimonK> It happens... You could use mIRC or something else
Jan 10 03:31:42 <megiddo> i should yes...
Jan 10 03:31:54 <DN-Phoenix> the chat died out anyway... so I also took it down because of that. It boosted the.. popularity of the chat for a while, but humans are humans, and they're not eternally amused by one single thing.
Jan 10 03:32:07 <SimonK> So, you're a Flash man megiddo?
Jan 10 03:32:44 <SimonK> Phoenix: Hmmm... I'd still vote for it to come back
Jan 10 03:32:48 <megiddo> yeah
Jan 10 03:32:56 <megiddo> fun program
Jan 10 03:33:03 <SimonK> As a living kinda thing?
Jan 10 03:33:17 <SimonK> I had a play with Director the other week.
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Jan 10 03:33:35 <megiddo> yeah, touch and go...end of the year was tough
Jan 10 03:33:37 <SimonK> Did the tutorial on making things animated and have buttons, play a QT... etc
Jan 10 03:34:06 <megiddo> you know, apparently it's very similar...but I haven't messed with it much
Jan 10 03:34:23 <megiddo> y, you dig it?
Jan 10 03:34:29 <SimonK> It's what I've heard, my nephew had it on his computer
Jan 10 03:34:44 <SimonK> So I thought I'd see what I could do with it
Jan 10 03:34:58 <SimonK> But I only made a start.
Jan 10 03:35:02 <megiddo> Flash is an easier entry
Jan 10 03:35:05 <megiddo> and cheaper
Jan 10 03:35:13 <SimonK> Have to learn more about it's scripting language LINGO to judge properly I guess
Jan 10 03:35:27 <megiddo> Actionscript is actually starting to resemble a language
Jan 10 03:36:13 <SimonK> let alone explore its 3D options - not sure what they could do at all...
Jan 10 03:36:17 --- Magicman|drinking is now known as Magicman
Jan 10 03:36:40 <SimonK> I got caught up trying to write a fade down and fade up script for the animation of the sun setting and rising
Jan 10 03:37:00 <megiddo> yeah, Flash does not support 3d as such
Jan 10 03:37:14 <SimonK> Now if the new Dink Engine could play a shockwave plug-in or flash plug-in, would that be better than an avi cut scene, I wonder?
Jan 10 03:37:24 <megiddo> so if that's what you're wanting to do, Director
Jan 10 03:37:34 <megiddo> sure, smaller because it would be vector
Jan 10 03:37:37 <SimonK> I see...
Jan 10 03:37:45 <DN-Phoenix> would look nice resized too.
Jan 10 03:37:46 <DN-Phoenix>
Jan 10 03:37:54 <megiddo> zactly
Jan 10 03:37:57 <SimonK> If I come across Flash I might give it a whirl
Jan 10 03:38:07 <megiddo> it's around.
Jan 10 03:38:16 <DN-Phoenix> it's costy.
Jan 10 03:38:22 <megiddo> get the 30-day trial
Jan 10 03:38:32 <megiddo> all Macromedia appz typically have a 30 day
Jan 10 03:38:42 <megiddo> plenty of time to get a feel...
Jan 10 03:39:00 <SimonK> I came across a texture world program that looked good for creating seamless textures
Jan 10 03:39:14 <SimonK> In fact I might just go start downloading it, since I'm on dial-up
Jan 10 03:39:22 <megiddo> really? what's it called
Jan 10 03:39:33 <megiddo> was looking at some myself...
Jan 10 03:39:50 <SimonK> Hang on... I was at work when I found it... so I gotta jog a few brain cells here
Jan 10 03:40:14 <megiddo> been messing around with photoshop Filter > Other > Offset...
Jan 10 03:40:17 <megiddo> k
Jan 10 03:40:28 <SimonK> yeah... that's good for it
Jan 10 03:40:37 <SimonK> I use PSP and manually try the same thing
Jan 10 03:41:02 <DN-Phoenix> gtg, restarting.
Jan 10 03:41:02 <megiddo> right...by duping the image and placing it by hand?
Jan 10 03:41:19 <DN-Phoenix> I have trouble with the ntoskrnl.exe. eheheheh.. *sigh*
Jan 10 03:41:20 <SimonK> I can't remember the name, dang... and no history on this computer
Jan 10 03:41:34 <Magicman> Phoenix: CU in a while
Jan 10 03:41:45 <SimonK> cya later Phoenix
Jan 10 03:41:55 <megiddo> cu P
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Jan 10 03:42:22 <megiddo> been thinking alot about helping those without pro software make tiles and such
Jan 10 03:42:41 <SimonK> Okay... here's the link http://www.i-tex.de/
Jan 10 03:42:56 <megiddo> tonight (or this morning rather...it's nearly 5am) made an isogrid in Illustrator
Jan 10 03:42:59 <megiddo> k
Jan 10 03:43:12 <SimonK> Hey, you offer to do graphics... you'll get a quite a few people sticking their hands up
Jan 10 03:44:12 <megiddo> right...well I was thinking along the lines of an in-depth tut on isometrics and such
Jan 10 03:44:42 <megiddo> i know graphics...just not the Dink engine or dinkC....but intend to learn
Jan 10 03:45:05 <megiddo> but making graphics or a graphics pack is on my mind for sure
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Jan 10 03:45:50 <Simeon> Ah, still some people here
Jan 10 03:45:57 <SimonK|inDisguise> Ah the joys of dial up
Jan 10 03:45:59 <Magicman> They're only coming now
Jan 10 03:46:03 <Magicman> the people
Jan 10 03:46:16 <megiddo> yup. just gettin' going...
Jan 10 03:46:22 <Simeon> It was empty here around 10 then?
Jan 10 03:46:25 <Magicman> Yup
Jan 10 03:46:36 <Magicman> only Phoenix, SimonK and me
Jan 10 03:46:41 <SimonK|inDisguise> Just me and Magicman, and Phoenix off doing somthing
Jan 10 03:46:49 <Simeon> Ah, I see.
Jan 10 03:46:53 <Magicman> great... 2 SimonK's
Jan 10 03:46:55 <megiddo> crap...pardon me while I install mIRC - brb
Jan 10 03:47:07 <Magicman> sure
Jan 10 03:47:18 <SimonK|inDisguise> yep, the dead me, who will get booted soon... and the real me
Jan 10 03:47:55 <Magicman> And the rest of you, Smith?
Jan 10 03:47:56 <Magicman>
Jan 10 03:48:17 <SimonK|inDisguise> Smith? as in agent?
Jan 10 03:48:27 <Magicman> yup, that one
Jan 10 03:48:58 <SimonK|inDisguise> It's weird. I can't watch anything with Hugo Weaving in now without thinking of him as Agent Smith...
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Jan 10 03:49:07 <Magicman> Hey!
Jan 10 03:49:11 <SimonK|inDisguise> In LotR... even
Jan 10 03:49:12 <Simeon> aheya
Jan 10 03:49:19 <Magicman> yeah... Elrond
Jan 10 03:49:39 <SimonK|inDisguise> I saw RotK again last night
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Jan 10 03:49:50 <DN-Phoenix> me = reinstalling system - today.
Jan 10 03:50:08 <DN-Phoenix> I think.
Jan 10 03:50:09 <DN-Phoenix>
Jan 10 03:50:18 <Magicman> hehe
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Jan 10 03:50:31 <Magicman> RotK was good
Jan 10 03:50:36 <Simeon> Indeed it was
Jan 10 03:50:38 <SimonK> At last I reveal my true self!
Jan 10 03:50:50 <Simeon> Welcome back, Mr. Anderson.
Jan 10 03:51:05 <SimonK> Yeah... but I've gotta go watch the TT again... as there were a couple things that didn't sit right for me
Jan 10 03:51:15 <SimonK> Yeah...
Jan 10 03:51:36 <SimonK> Him
Jan 10 03:51:42 <Magicman> I did a LotR marathon just before the holidy
Jan 10 03:51:49 <Magicman> day
Jan 10 03:52:20 <megiddo> darn
Jan 10 03:52:40 <megiddo> what do I do to connect via mIRC...sry
Jan 10 03:53:08 <megiddo> ah toast it...i'm missing all the fun. i'll do it later
Jan 10 03:53:14 <SimonK> okay I'm going to see about a problem someone has with PQ - be back later
Jan 10 03:53:18 <Magicman> About this: http://www.dinknetwork.com/chat_mirc.shtml
Jan 10 03:53:20 --- SimonK is now known as SimonK|PQing
Jan 10 03:54:58 <DN-Phoenix> and read the text, don't follow the pictures.
Jan 10 03:55:50 <Magicman> bill@gates.usa
Jan 10 03:55:58 <Magicman> ghehe... never saw it before
Jan 10 03:58:02 <DN-Phoenix> har har, yes. I made that up.
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Jan 10 03:58:58 <megiddo> alright then...mIRC
Jan 10 03:59:04 <Simeon> So, did Sabre actually make it to the chat?
Jan 10 03:59:09 <Magicman> no...
Jan 10 03:59:33 <Simeon> Heh.
Jan 10 03:59:41 <Magicman> We didn't talk about the Contest, New Years Resolutions, nor about why he should be given a nobel prize
Jan 10 03:59:55 <Magicman> well... maybe 2 lines were devoted to the last topic
Jan 10 04:00:02 <DN-Phoenix> he never shows up. I really hope you didn't expect him to.
Jan 10 04:00:25 <Magicman> The last time I saw him here was in his chat in the summer holiday
Jan 10 04:00:28 <DN-Phoenix> he's the only european who offered himself to be a chat staff guy (besides Kory)
Jan 10 04:00:31 <Simeon> Well, I wasn't there anyway - but I just saw the message on the board about his CPU dying so... heh.
Jan 10 04:00:34 <Magicman> the first 10 minutes
Jan 10 04:00:35 <SimonK|PQing> Too busy sticking a sabre up a trout
Jan 10 04:00:42 <megiddo> hahaha
Jan 10 04:00:57 <Magicman> Kory european too?
Jan 10 04:01:03 <DN-Phoenix> Croatian
Jan 10 04:01:11 <Simeon> Yep.
Jan 10 04:01:20 <Magicman> Didn't know that
Jan 10 04:01:40 <megiddo> anyone here near Texas and as crazy as I am for not having gone to bed yet?
Jan 10 04:02:00 <DN-Phoenix> I have 32 €.
Jan 10 04:02:02 <DN-Phoenix> yay.
Jan 10 04:02:03 <DN-Phoenix>
Jan 10 04:02:16 <DN-Phoenix> or was it 39 €?
Jan 10 04:02:20 <megiddo> Vampire by night, Zombie by day...
Jan 10 04:02:21 <DN-Phoenix> eh, doesn't matter.
Jan 10 04:02:42 <Magicman> I guess nobody near Texas
Jan 10 04:02:47 <Magicman> dunno where merlin lives though
Jan 10 04:02:49 <megiddo> right
Jan 10 04:03:20 <megiddo> redink1 is in Michigan right?
Jan 10 04:03:30 <megiddo> same, t-zone as TX
Jan 10 04:03:31 <SimonK|PQing> dang, windows explorer was NOT RESPONDING... bloody XP Pro
Jan 10 04:03:46 <DN-Phoenix> I have XP Pro.
Jan 10 04:03:54 <DN-Phoenix> It's r0xx0rz for me.
Jan 10 04:03:59 <megiddo> how is that. i'm on 2k pro still
Jan 10 04:04:01 <Magicman> It isn't XP Pro... I have the same thing with 98 SE
Jan 10 04:04:11 <Simeon> I have Home :-I
Jan 10 04:04:44 <DN-Phoenix> home suxx0rz.
Jan 10 04:05:15 <Simeon> :'-(
Jan 10 04:05:16 <Simeon>
Jan 10 04:05:16 <megiddo> so whilst I was messing with mIRC, I missed the RotK talk...LOVED IT
Jan 10 04:05:39 <megiddo> best one in my opinion...but maybe that's just b/c it was the last
Jan 10 04:06:09 <Magicman> When was the last time you saw the other ones?
Jan 10 04:06:30 <megiddo> well, saw TTT EE month b4 RotK
Jan 10 04:06:44 <megiddo> which also rocked. i dunno, i just love them all
Jan 10 04:07:24 <megiddo> love the extra footage in the extended eds
Jan 10 04:07:38 <Magicman> and in the special-extended
Jan 10 04:07:53 <megiddo> lol - right.
Jan 10 04:08:06 <Magicman> Everything on LotR just rules
Jan 10 04:08:13 <Magicman> well, almost everything
Jan 10 04:08:19 <Simeon> Hehe
Jan 10 04:08:26 <Magicman> Tom Bombadil had to be in the movies too
Jan 10 04:08:35 <megiddo> well Frodo and Sam never went to Osgiliath...but don't get me started
Jan 10 04:08:55 <Magicman> and the elves never were to defend Helm's Deep
Jan 10 04:08:58 <Magicman>
Jan 10 04:09:08 <megiddo> exactly
Jan 10 04:09:31 <Magicman> looked through the book THREE TIMES just to check if it really isn't in there
Jan 10 04:09:48 <megiddo> lol
Jan 10 04:09:48 <DN-Phoenix> I'm gonna do a weird re-installation this time...
Jan 10 04:10:02 <Magicman> Way to go Phoenix
Jan 10 04:10:14 <megiddo> thought that Shelob should have been the ending of TT like in the books.
Jan 10 04:10:19 <DN-Phoenix> I'm gonna partition my disk, and install DOS 6.22, Windows 3.11, Windows 98 SE, Windows XP and Windows .NET Server.. now howzaboutz that?
Jan 10 04:10:20 <megiddo> such a great cliffhanger!
Jan 10 04:10:31 <Magicman> you need Windows 1 too?
Jan 10 04:10:35 <Magicman> I have it somewhere
Jan 10 04:10:44 <DN-Phoenix> err... no thanks.
Jan 10 04:10:59 <DN-Phoenix> If I needed everything, I'd go for win95 and winME too.
Jan 10 04:11:04 <DN-Phoenix> I just need one of each sort.
Jan 10 04:11:06 <megiddo> wow you guys are a repository of out of date OS's
Jan 10 04:11:21 <Magicman> I have Windows 95 Diskette edition
Jan 10 04:11:28 <Magicman> 22 disks
Jan 10 04:11:35 <megiddo> pre-CD?
Jan 10 04:11:36 <megiddo> wow
Jan 10 04:11:51 <Magicman> I haven't got anything later than 98Se though
Jan 10 04:12:10 <Magicman> and windows BOB
Jan 10 04:12:40 <Simeon> I've got Windows 3.11, 98 and XP
Jan 10 04:13:30 <megiddo> used to have BeOS
Jan 10 04:13:39 <Magicman> Dos 1, anyone???
Jan 10 04:13:48 <Simeon> Ah, and DOS some version
Jan 10 04:13:50 <DN-Phoenix> I wish BeOS made it. I loved it.
Jan 10 04:13:57 <megiddo> and I didn't know until recently that NExt is what turned into OS X
Jan 10 04:14:16 <SimonK|PQing> Hmmm... found a bug in PQ... if you get Dink to step into the tornado and he gets sucked up and passes a big red heart... he starts dying and then comes back to life, but is frozen off screen
Jan 10 04:14:19 <megiddo> yeah, it was killer. Never really had it that long
Jan 10 04:14:25 <SimonK|PQing> Hmmm... never thought of that combination
Jan 10 04:14:55 <megiddo> spoilers! NO!
Jan 10 04:15:04 <megiddo> haven't finished SOB yet
Jan 10 04:15:16 <megiddo> jk
Jan 10 04:15:25 <DN-Phoenix> shame on thee, SimonKee.. err..
Jan 10 04:16:07 <megiddo> so SK, you have a Big Book O' Riddles lying around the house?
Jan 10 04:16:49 <megiddo> ...makes me think of Blain the Pain...anyone read the Dark Tower series by S. King?
Jan 10 04:17:32 <megiddo> would be a cool dmod. free standing doors on the beach that warp to other dimensions...there gave that one away...run with it.
Jan 10 04:18:45 <Magicman> A Myst DMod
Jan 10 04:18:49 <Magicman> would also be cool
Jan 10 04:19:11 <Simeon> Yeah.
Jan 10 04:19:36 <megiddo> has anyone done a: push the right combo of <rocks, vases etc> on floor switches...
Jan 10 04:19:42 <megiddo> to unlock something?
Jan 10 04:19:58 <megiddo> seems possible in Dink
Jan 10 04:20:24 <Magicman> Owyeah
Jan 10 04:20:30 <Magicman> In PQ...
Jan 10 04:20:37 <Magicman> you must align 3 stone heads
Jan 10 04:20:39 <Simeon> It has been done, if I remember.
Jan 10 04:20:43 <megiddo> nice
Jan 10 04:20:45 <Magicman> Dang... now I'm spoiling too
Jan 10 04:20:49 <megiddo> ha!
Jan 10 04:21:04 <megiddo> well, I asked. it's cool. (grumble grumble)
Jan 10 04:21:45 <Magicman> I guess Simeon here has scripted very script-complex puzzles
Jan 10 04:21:58 <Magicman> in WOD
Jan 10 04:22:06 <Magicman> I didn't play it, but what I heard
Jan 10 04:22:07 <Simeon> Yeah, there's at least one puzzle in my three D-Mods.
Jan 10 04:22:07 <megiddo> ok. how about this one: dang, Dink's bow drawing animation is slow. I'm thinking Legolas!
Jan 10 04:22:15 <megiddo> cool
Jan 10 04:22:22 <Simeon> I mean; at least one per D-Mod.
Jan 10 04:22:40 <megiddo> figured that
Jan 10 04:22:50 <Magicman> I'm thinking of even more complex things with the bow thing
Jan 10 04:22:55 <DN-Phoenix> I wonder if I can ever get a hold of Windows 3.11
Jan 10 04:23:01 <Magicman> here, here!!
Jan 10 04:23:05 <Simeon> A possibility exists that one of those puzzle will be used in a D&D game of a friend
Jan 10 04:23:09 <megiddo> me too...you shoot first
Jan 10 04:23:21 <megiddo> MM
Jan 10 04:23:21 <Magicman> Then, I guess it's 3.11
Jan 10 04:23:26 <Magicman> could be 3.10 too
Jan 10 04:23:55 <DN-Phoenix> eh, doesn't really matter.. the thing is that I used to own 3.11, but when Windows 32-bit came along, I used those disks for something else.
Jan 10 04:24:04 <megiddo> brb fellas
Jan 10 04:24:17 <DN-Phoenix> so I wouldn't see it as a crime to like.. download it from KaZaA or something, but it's kinda hard to find.
Jan 10 04:24:25 <Simeon> gotta eat, see ya'll later.
Jan 10 04:24:26 <megiddo> (hopes that everone here is a fella and has not offended a woman)
Jan 10 04:24:32 --- Simeon is now known as Simeon|food
Jan 10 04:24:35 <Magicman> I'm a fella
Jan 10 04:24:41 <Magicman> Simeon too, Phoenix too
Jan 10 04:24:42 <Magicman> ehm...
Jan 10 04:24:49 <Magicman> I guess everyone here is a fella
Jan 10 04:24:57 <megiddo> whew
Jan 10 04:25:07 <megiddo> k - now that it's settled - brb
Jan 10 04:25:44 <Magicman>
Jan 10 04:26:34 <Magicman> I could give you a copy of my version
Jan 10 04:26:46 <DN-Phoenix> mm.. sure. It'd be nice.
Jan 10 04:27:08 <Magicman> btw. It's Disk-version
Jan 10 04:27:15 <DN-Phoenix> is there anything else?
Jan 10 04:27:27 <DN-Phoenix> Did win3.11 ever come on CD?
Jan 10 04:27:35 <Magicman> I guess not...
Jan 10 04:27:38 <Magicman> not that I know
Jan 10 04:27:44 <DN-Phoenix> me neither.
Jan 10 04:27:47 <DN-Phoenix> I don't think so though.
Jan 10 04:27:54 <DN-Phoenix> I always had Disks..
Jan 10 04:28:48 <Magicman> it's 8 MB, should I mail it?
Jan 10 04:28:54 <Magicman> or what connection do you have?
Jan 10 04:29:05 <DN-Phoenix> don't you have any kind of IM?
Jan 10 04:29:12 <Magicman> MSN
Jan 10 04:29:14 <Magicman> only that
Jan 10 04:29:31 <DN-Phoenix> that should do, shouldn't it..
Jan 10 04:30:20 <Magicman> yeah
Jan 10 04:30:34 <DN-Phoenix> hold on, brb.
Jan 10 04:34:24 <DN-Phoenix> have my msn address?
Jan 10 04:34:46 <Magicman> ehm... if it's in your profile I could get it
Jan 10 04:35:26 --- SimonK|PQing is now known as SimonK
Jan 10 04:36:11 <SimonK> Hmmm... my nick will change soon
Jan 10 04:36:27 <SimonK> So... Figured it out...
Jan 10 04:36:46 <megiddo> what was the fix?
Jan 10 04:36:54 <megiddo> (how to change nick?)
Jan 10 04:37:04 <SimonK> Also found another thing which I can't remember if it was intentional, but if you keep beating up on the sick guy in the end world, his bloody body starts to attack you
Jan 10 04:37:18 <SimonK> Looks kinda weird and like the attacking save machine in FIAT
Jan 10 04:37:20 <megiddo> lol - awesome
Jan 10 04:37:41 <SimonK> But I tell ya, gotta love the Deus Strike Magic woo hoo!
Jan 10 04:38:32 <megiddo> this link from SK: http://www.texturemaker.com - check it
Jan 10 04:38:38 <megiddo> looks killer - i want it
Jan 10 04:38:59 <SimonK> I've nearly finished downloading it... dial-up to the rescue!
Jan 10 04:39:28 <SimonK> yeah... This one I'll spend the 30 day trial really using... seamless textures here we come
Jan 10 04:40:25 <megiddo> what's worse than dial-up?
Jan 10 04:40:38 <SimonK> chaning nick is just /nick [new nick]
Jan 10 04:40:49 <megiddo> is dial up fast in Aus?
Jan 10 04:40:59 <SimonK> Ah... not much... having your testicles nailed to a chair... but that's about it
Jan 10 04:41:08 <megiddo> LOL! OMG
Jan 10 04:41:21 <megiddo> don't think I want to hear THAT story (cringe)
Jan 10 04:41:34 <SimonK> That was in a movie
Jan 10 04:41:46 <SimonK> Can't remember the name
Jan 10 04:42:14 <SimonK> Horrific scene, in Hiati, voodoo/head of secret police does it to some white guy
Jan 10 04:42:21 <megiddo> there's a friggin' scripting language in Texture Maker for crying out loud!
Jan 10 04:42:36 <SimonK> Just before the nail is used the White Guy asks what the hell the Head of Secret Police wants
Jan 10 04:42:41 <megiddo> oh i know that one...Serpent and the Rainbow
Jan 10 04:42:43 <SimonK> "To hear you scream"
Jan 10 04:42:49 <SimonK> yep that's the one
Jan 10 04:43:39 <megiddo> test
Jan 10 04:43:42 <megiddo> hmm
Jan 10 04:44:31 <megiddo> anyone try gettin' rid of the 'crunchiness factor' of Dink tiles?
Jan 10 04:44:44 <DN-Phoenix> err. what?
Jan 10 04:44:45 <megiddo> i tried using blur but it fragged the seams
Jan 10 04:45:18 <megiddo> well, granted they are low-rez...but they are also high-contrast
Jan 10 04:45:48 <megiddo> i think they could have smoother color-transitions from one pixel to the next
Jan 10 04:45:57 <SimonK> You'd have to make a big texture using each one, change them, make them seamless againg etc... I'm guessing
Jan 10 04:46:06 <megiddo> crunchy...like too pixelated
Jan 10 04:46:24 <SimonK> It's 256 colours... so... pixels here we come
Jan 10 04:46:25 <megiddo> crunch pebbles
Jan 10 04:46:29 <megiddo> yeah
Jan 10 04:46:39 <SimonK> Crunchy Nut Cornflakes are good, though
Jan 10 04:46:40 <megiddo> cocoa puffs
Jan 10 04:46:52 <megiddo> totally
Jan 10 04:46:59 <megiddo> Honey Bunches of Oats is good as well
Jan 10 04:47:09 <Magicman> eh... megiddo
Jan 10 04:47:15 <SimonK> Vanilla Nutri-Grain... pale iron man food
Jan 10 04:47:20 <Magicman> you read the poll of a few month ago?
Jan 10 04:47:37 <Magicman> http://www.dinknetwork.com/poll.cgi?action=Results&PID=16
Jan 10 04:47:39 <Magicman> this one
Jan 10 04:48:23 <megiddo> reading
Jan 10 04:48:46 <megiddo> lol
Jan 10 04:48:50 <megiddo> nice
Jan 10 04:48:58 <Magicman> cool coincidence
Jan 10 04:49:04 <megiddo> synchonicty
Jan 10 04:49:09 <megiddo> yeah, totally
Jan 10 04:49:24 <SimonK> sinkingchocnicely
Jan 10 04:49:52 <megiddo> stankycrunchnastey
Jan 10 04:50:15 <megiddo> you guys are great. glad I stay up.
Jan 10 04:50:23 <Magicman> thanks
Jan 10 04:50:33 <megiddo> stayed...spelling is suffering though, doh!
Jan 10 04:50:34 <Magicman> how late is it in your time-zone
Jan 10 04:50:38 <Magicman> its 12:50 here
Jan 10 04:50:45 <megiddo> 5:50am
Jan 10 04:50:52 <SimonK> 10:50 pm here
Jan 10 04:50:59 <SimonK> I need a beer
Jan 10 04:51:11 --- Simeon|food is now known as Simeon
Jan 10 04:51:14 <Simeon> I'm back.
Jan 10 04:51:27 <megiddo> (pours SK a cold one)
Jan 10 04:51:38 <megiddo> (kicks back one for himself)
Jan 10 04:51:53 * SimonK ah... virtual beer [gulp] [gulp]
Jan 10 04:52:13 <Magicman> two beer, or not two beer... that's the question
Jan 10 04:52:50 <megiddo> truly
Jan 10 04:52:57 <SimonK> Never a question...
Jan 10 04:53:20 <Magicman> Always two beer!!
Jan 10 04:53:54 <megiddo> 99 bottles of beer on the wall...99 bottles of beer!
Jan 10 04:54:20 <SimonK> I just put 34 bottles of beer on a wall
Jan 10 04:54:27 <megiddo> (looks around nervously waiting for someone to punch him...)
Jan 10 04:54:28 <SimonK> well a shelf really
Jan 10 04:54:36 <SimonK> and that was 3 hours ago
Jan 10 04:54:38 <megiddo> empty?
Jan 10 04:54:42 <megiddo> or full?
Jan 10 04:54:51 <SimonK> Now, to wait 2 weeks for it to brew
Jan 10 04:55:05 <SimonK> dum de dum...
Jan 10 04:56:02 <megiddo> ahhh. nice. home brew
Jan 10 04:56:13 <SimonK> Yeap
Jan 10 04:56:27 <megiddo> friend of mine made a really cool pumpkin beer...sounded gross, tasted great
Jan 10 04:56:48 <Magicman> Reminds me of this limerick in a Monty-Python game
Jan 10 04:56:52 <Magicman> There once was a Sheila from Sydney,
Jan 10 04:56:53 <Magicman> Who was missing ten teeth and a kidney,
Jan 10 04:56:53 <Magicman> But her Bruce found her dear,
Jan 10 04:56:53 <Magicman> `Cause she brewed her own beer,
Jan 10 04:56:53 <Magicman> He made out fair dinkum now didn't he?
Jan 10 04:57:26 <SimonK> Oh yeah baby
Jan 10 04:57:53 <SimonK> A lack of teeth can be considered an asset in such a relationship
Jan 10 04:58:20 <Magicman> ghehe
Jan 10 04:58:25 <Magicman> I'm gonna eat something
Jan 10 04:58:28 <SimonK> Pumpkin beer... that'd be interesting...
Jan 10 04:58:35 --- Magicman is now known as Magicman|eating
Jan 10 04:59:11 <megiddo> yeah, the pumpkin flavor wasn't terribly strong or anything...subtle
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Jan 10 04:59:53 <DukieE> yeah
Jan 10 05:00:00 <DukieE> Howdy folks
Jan 10 05:00:04 <SimonK> My next batch is a stout... after that I'm going to tray adding stuff like ginger... see what happens
Jan 10 05:00:05 <DN-Phoenix> ydwoh
Jan 10 05:00:18 <SimonK> Hey... light up da man!
Jan 10 05:00:42 <Simeon> hey Dukie
Jan 10 05:00:54 <megiddo> whaddup
Jan 10 05:00:55 <DukieE> light up da man?
Jan 10 05:01:17 <SimonK> You're one smoking dude, right
Jan 10 05:01:45 <DN-Phoenix> I wish some textures came with a good bump-map.
Jan 10 05:01:48 <SimonK> Even if you never sent me those answers to the questions....
Jan 10 05:01:54 <DukieE> Yeah
Jan 10 05:02:00 <DukieE> I feel bad about that
Jan 10 05:02:10 <DukieE> But I'm still gonna send them!
Jan 10 05:02:16 <megiddo> what prog Phoenix?
Jan 10 05:02:18 <SimonK> I had you light up in the TMOD, it got a laugh with Dan and few others
Jan 10 05:02:22 <DukieE>
Jan 10 05:02:27 <DN-Phoenix> I use Bryce.
Jan 10 05:02:29 <DukieE> oh that
Jan 10 05:03:31 <megiddo> you tried saving a copy and hard-tweaking the brightness contrast?
Jan 10 05:03:39 <megiddo> that can suffice sometimes
Jan 10 05:04:13 <megiddo> http://www.texturemaker.com/gallery.htm
Jan 10 05:04:21 <DN-Phoenix> I'm not much experienced in this.. I was just looking at this: http://www.texturemaker.com/smp/Nature/Field_Soil.htm <- and if you look at the background, it looks great, but look at the preview up in the left corner..
Jan 10 05:04:25 <DN-Phoenix> it looks all flat.
Jan 10 05:04:35 <megiddo> what kind of prices are offered for the DOTM and such?
Jan 10 05:04:51 <SimonK> It's free
Jan 10 05:04:53 <Simeon> If you win the DOTM, you get an award icon on the File Page and in the list of files.
Jan 10 05:04:56 <SimonK>
Jan 10 05:05:26 <DukieE> You also get a revered status in the community
Jan 10 05:05:33 <DukieE> That's what it's all about
Jan 10 05:05:40 <megiddo> oh. read something from redink1 about saving money on hosting to put towards prizes
Jan 10 05:05:49 <megiddo> doh! i said prices
Jan 10 05:06:04 <SimonK>
Jan 10 05:06:05 <Simeon> Yeah, that's about contests, like the current Weird D-Mod one.
Jan 10 05:06:16 <megiddo> i c
Jan 10 05:06:35 <megiddo> just curious, this TM prog would be a killer prize if there was a budget for it.
Jan 10 05:06:59 <megiddo> Phoenix, that texture doesn't appear to have a bump map applied to it.
Jan 10 05:07:11 <megiddo> it's just a high rex image
Jan 10 05:07:18 <SimonK> Yeah... I was just about to say that
Jan 10 05:07:25 <megiddo> rez...
Jan 10 05:07:50 <SimonK> Need a image editing prog for dat
Jan 10 05:08:07 <megiddo> in 3dsMax you can distort a mesh with a map (amybe other's too i dunno) which is really neat
Jan 10 05:08:32 <megiddo> SK - right
Jan 10 05:09:17 <SimonK> Yes... that's the one thing Blender doesn't do well... mesh distortion via image bump map
Jan 10 05:09:18 <megiddo> personally, i'm not fond of photo-realistic textures. hard to pull off well
Jan 10 05:09:32 <SimonK> At least not in terms of casting correct shadows
Jan 10 05:09:54 <megiddo> can't you get it how you want and then, well 'cook' it?
Jan 10 05:10:05 <megiddo> so that it's no longer editable...might work then
Jan 10 05:10:20 --- Magicman|eating is now known as Magicman
Jan 10 05:10:54 <megiddo> i know in max, alot of those fancy methods remain procedures until you collapse the modifier stack
Jan 10 05:11:17 <megiddo> i don't know blender though.
Jan 10 05:11:25 <SimonK> I'm not sure... haven't found a way yet... I got it to deform the texture on the mesh so it looks like the mesh is deformed to the shape I'm after, but the shadow is still undeformed
Jan 10 05:11:35 <SimonK> Haven't come back to it for a while
Jan 10 05:11:49 <SimonK> Can't afford Max or Maya
Jan 10 05:12:13 <SimonK> Of course, Blender suits my budget right down to the ground... "I want to be free"
Jan 10 05:12:19 <megiddo> i can't either. it's a friend's prog.
Jan 10 05:12:40 <megiddo> i don't use it to make $$$ so I consider it 'educational' version
Jan 10 05:13:04 <DukieE> hehe
Jan 10 05:13:27 <SimonK> Hmmm... but do the makers of the proggie consider you a student they have given a grant to?
Jan 10 05:14:04 <megiddo> o.k. - let's not talk software ethics. i'm too tired
Jan 10 05:14:20 <SimonK> ok...
Jan 10 05:14:24 <megiddo> but I hear you.
Jan 10 05:14:58 <SimonK> I ain't that serious about it... more interested in playing with the words and the concept than the politics of the thing
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Jan 10 05:15:38 <megiddo> can be argued both ways
Jan 10 05:15:48 <SimonK> Words, double meanings... riddles... entendres (sp?) - all amuse me
Jan 10 05:16:15 <Simeon> Hehe.
Jan 10 05:16:20 <Magicman> So I noticed
Jan 10 05:17:23 <DukieE> Attempt to evaluate the actual power of brands by making Austrian people draw a total of twelve logos (nine international, three typically European) from memory, 25 people per brand: http://www.monochrom.at/markenzeichnen/index-eng.htm
Jan 10 05:17:31 <DukieE> Ummm
Jan 10 05:17:39 <DukieE> It's interesting
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Jan 10 05:20:40 <SimonK> okaie smokie... I'm off for some shut eye
Jan 10 05:20:57 <DukieE> hehe
Jan 10 05:20:58 <SimonK> say hi to the swordfish if he turns up
Jan 10 05:21:04 <DukieE> The questions are on the way!
Jan 10 05:21:05 <megiddo> have good shuteye
Jan 10 05:21:09 <DukieE> I loved the T-mod btw
Jan 10 05:21:13 <SimonK> Some one should do a fish dance with him
Jan 10 05:21:18 <SimonK> thanks!
Jan 10 05:21:27 <SimonK> ciao bella
Jan 10 05:21:28 <Simeon> see ya
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Jan 10 05:21:34 <megiddo> peace
Jan 10 05:21:46 <DukieE> I'm out of here too
Jan 10 05:21:50 <megiddo> i'm out too fellas. it's 6:22am and I've not gone to bed yet.
Jan 10 05:21:53 <DukieE>
Jan 10 05:21:56 <megiddo> glad I could catch you all though
Jan 10 05:22:07 <megiddo> see ya on the flipside
Jan 10 05:22:10 <DukieE> hehe
Jan 10 05:22:14 <Simeon> Ok, see ya
Jan 10 05:22:14 <DukieE> good nizzle!
Jan 10 05:22:22 <megiddo> fo shizzle
Jan 10 05:22:26 <DukieE> =)
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Jan 10 05:22:41 <DukieE> Yeah
Jan 10 05:22:55 <DukieE> nu kunnen we nederlands praten
Jan 10 05:23:00 <Simeon> Yay, gezellig
Jan 10 05:23:06 <Magicman> fijn
Jan 10 05:23:09 <Magicman> op Phoenix na
Jan 10 05:23:14 <DukieE>
Jan 10 05:23:20 <Simeon> en Merlin, maar die is toch aan het loggen
Jan 10 05:23:37 <DukieE> maja, ik was ook weg
Jan 10 05:23:44 <DukieE> Tot de volgende keer dus
Jan 10 05:23:54 <Simeon> Awh, see ya
Jan 10 05:24:00 <DukieE> aaaaaaaight!
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Jan 10 05:24:37 <Magicman> okee, iedereen gaat er vandoor
Jan 10 05:24:57 <Simeon> en jij?
Jan 10 05:25:03 <Magicman> ik blijf nog wel ff
Jan 10 05:25:16 <Simeon> ah, ik ook
Jan 10 05:25:52 <Magicman> doe jij nog iets aan de weird contest?
Jan 10 05:26:28 <Simeon> nou, ik heb eigenlijk geen ideeën voor een Weird D-Mod dus ik denk niet dat ik iets ga inleveren :-/
Jan 10 05:26:43 <Simeon> en jij?
Jan 10 05:26:47 <Magicman> ik had wel iets...
Jan 10 05:26:54 <Magicman> een soort mario-party
Jan 10 05:27:28 <Simeon> maar daar ben je niet mee verder gegaan? Aangezien je "had" zei..
Jan 10 05:27:34 <Magicman> idd
Jan 10 05:27:41 <Magicman> was er in de kerstvakantie aan begonnen
Jan 10 05:27:58 <Magicman> maar het was vreselijk saai werk, en ik had geen zin om een nieuwe map te maken
Jan 10 05:28:20 <Simeon> ah, I see.
Jan 10 05:28:55 <DN-Phoenix> ooh boy.. Just saw a capoiera show on TV just now.. THAT is awesome.
Jan 10 05:28:56 <Simeon> tzal mij benieuwen wat de resultaten van de contest worden - ik heb nog niet echt iets gehoord van iemand die wel iets heeft..
Jan 10 05:30:25 <Magicman> ik ook niet, maar het kreeg meer reacties dan die met de Evil Hero
Jan 10 05:30:42 <Magicman> Beginning of Evil v2.0 coming soon btw
Jan 10 05:31:17 <Simeon> Yeah, besides the contest, I do have some ideas for D-Mods, including one nice part of a D-Mod already done
Jan 10 05:38:05 <Magicman> ooh, ooh, tell, tell
Jan 10 05:38:32 <Simeon> Ehm, well let's just say its
Jan 10 05:38:46 <Simeon> it's an interesting story
Jan 10 05:39:02 <Simeon> And I won't reveal the other idea
Jan 10 05:39:13 <Simeon> Though I haven't really revealed anything...
Jan 10 05:39:27 <Magicman> not really, but you made me curious
Jan 10 05:40:07 <Simeon> Hehe, I guess it'll probably take some time until it gets released as I haven't figured the ending of the D-Mod yet..
Jan 10 05:40:35 <Magicman> can you imagine... I'm working on 3 DMods now
Jan 10 05:40:43 <Simeon> Hehe
Jan 10 05:40:58 <Simeon> And BOE2 is the first of those to get released?
Jan 10 05:41:04 <Magicman> I guess so
Jan 10 05:41:14 <Magicman> If I find time
Jan 10 05:41:32 <Magicman> exam week coming soon
Jan 10 05:41:51 <Magicman> second is New War Chronicle Dink Smallwood
Jan 10 05:42:16 <Magicman> it's some school project of one of my friends
Jan 10 05:42:26 <Simeon> Hmm, you have the exam week some time after the Xmas holidays...
Jan 10 05:42:29 <Simeon> Ah, I see.
Jan 10 05:44:02 <Magicman> yes, not next week, but the week after
Jan 10 05:44:17 <Simeon> Hmm, ok.
Jan 10 05:44:42 <Magicman> and you?
Jan 10 05:46:05 <Simeon> well
Jan 10 05:46:48 <Magicman> ??? I lost track of the conversation
Jan 10 05:46:51 <Magicman> I guess
Jan 10 05:46:52 <Simeon> I had a week of exams just before the Xmas holidays and now it's something like a month or so with normal schooldays, and then another week of exams (Tweede Fase, je weet toch)
Jan 10 05:47:43 <Magicman> Ah... what class are you in, by the way
Jan 10 05:47:51 <Magicman> 2e fase sucks
Jan 10 05:48:03 <Simeon> VWO5 + Latin so actually GYM5
Jan 10 05:48:22 <Simeon> And in what class are you?
Jan 10 05:48:34 <Magicman> I'm VWO 6, NT + Bio1,2 and Greek
Jan 10 05:48:46 <Magicman> NT = Natuur en Techniek
Jan 10 05:48:52 <Simeon> I know I know, I'm doing it myself
Jan 10 05:49:15 <Simeon> VWO5, NT + Computer Science + Latin
Jan 10 05:49:23 <Simeon> Informatica, for the Dutch people around
Jan 10 05:49:41 <Magicman> ghehe
Jan 10 05:50:02 <Magicman> Many of my classmates do that too
Jan 10 05:50:10 <Magicman> but then NG instead of NT
Jan 10 05:50:46 <Simeon> Heh. There are only something like 10 people who do NT this year.
Jan 10 05:51:26 <Magicman> Here too. Not a very popular profile, if that's the correct word for it
Jan 10 05:52:20 <Magicman> Greek is also very unpopular. In VWO 6 only 3 pupils
Jan 10 05:52:31 <Magicman> Latin... 20 or something
Jan 10 05:52:53 <Simeon> Hmm, it's somewhat the same here; 20 Latin and 20 Greek with 3, 4 who do both.
Jan 10 05:53:10 <Simeon> Wait, the numbers are a little less.
Jan 10 05:53:52 <Simeon> No, they're quite accurate actually (both groups are at least 15), heh.
Jan 10 05:54:07 <Magicman> wow... pretty large Greek group then
Jan 10 05:54:58 <Simeon> Yeah, it are pretty big classes actually - though I'm not that sure about the Greek class as I'm counting the people from memory but they're at least way more than 3.
Jan 10 05:55:49 <Simeon> And then KCV, a full classroom
Jan 10 05:56:19 <Magicman> Yes, I imagine. I don't have it anymore
Jan 10 05:56:32 <Magicman> I do Literature in English, and it sucks
Jan 10 05:56:53 <Magicman> Véry boring... at least not as boring as Dutch Literature
Jan 10 05:57:17 <Simeon> Ah, I see. Guess I'll see it myself when I have to read English books next year or so.
Jan 10 05:57:39 <Magicman> I got it too in the second half of the fifth
Jan 10 05:58:22 <Magicman> Chemistry 2 is new in the sixth
Jan 10 05:58:26 <Simeon> Hmm, I haven't heard my English teacher about it, though we are going to do Shakespeare some time this year.
Jan 10 05:58:40 <Simeon> Yeah, Chemistry 2 next year.
Jan 10 05:58:45 <Magicman> better than the dutch Mulish crap anyway
Jan 10 05:59:08 <DN-Phoenix> okay, I'm going now.. I'm gonna do reinstallation.
Jan 10 05:59:11 <Simeon> Yeah, that's good to hear
Jan 10 05:59:13 <Simeon> Ok, see ya
Jan 10 05:59:19 <Magicman> CU
Jan 10 05:59:27 <Simeon> mzzl
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Jan 10 05:59:56 <Magicman> we kunnen weer Nederlands kleppen
Jan 10 06:00:08 <Simeon> yep, gewoon lekker verder
Jan 10 06:00:12 <Simeon> tot ie terugkomt
Jan 10 06:00:25 <Magicman> ennehh.. m'n ouders vieren vandaag hun verjaardag, dus ik zal héél vaak niet reageren
Jan 10 06:00:29 <Magicman> ik moet socializen
Jan 10 06:00:44 <Simeon> toeval toeval toeval
Jan 10 06:00:49 <Simeon> mijn vader is vandaag jarig
Jan 10 06:00:56 <Magicman> gefeliciteerd!
Jan 10 06:01:03 <Simeon> jij ook gefeliciteerd!
Jan 10 06:01:08 <Magicman> m'n moeder afgelopen woensdag
Jan 10 06:01:20 <Magicman> en m'n vader een woensdag precies een maand geleden
Jan 10 06:01:28 <Magicman> 7 dec en 7 jan
Jan 10 06:01:43 <Simeon> Heh, m'n vader dus vandaag, 10 jan.
Jan 10 06:02:12 <Magicman> doe jij ook nog iets aan een meerdaagse excursie?
Jan 10 06:02:18 <Magicman> ik ging vorig jaar naar Rome
Jan 10 06:02:35 <Simeon> Ik ook Op 3 oct gingen we weg, tot de 10e
Jan 10 06:02:50 <Magicman> Cool,
Jan 10 06:03:01 <Magicman> ben daar wel de boutste engelse text tegengekomen EVER
Jan 10 06:03:08 <Simeon> Ohja, welke dan?
Jan 10 06:03:22 <Magicman> ff opzoeken
Jan 10 06:03:40 <Magicman> Ik pleur dit soort aardigheedjes altijd in m'n DMods
Jan 10 06:03:49 <Simeon> Hehe
Jan 10 06:04:25 <Magicman> 'Food end tekawai'
Jan 10 06:04:41 <Simeon> Ehh, geweldig Engels
Jan 10 06:04:54 <Magicman> naast 'hotel California'
Jan 10 06:05:11 <Magicman> lekkere pizza, dat wel
Jan 10 06:05:32 <Simeon> Yep, Rome heeft best wel lekker eten, 't hangt er maar net vanaf waar je 't haalt.
Jan 10 06:05:33 <Magicman> dang... bezoek
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Jan 10 06:05:49 <Magicman|socializing>
Jan 10 06:05:57 <Simeon> Heh, have fun
Jan 10 06:06:00 <Magicman|socializing> Ristorante Alessio hadden wij...
Jan 10 06:06:02 <Magicman|socializing> bedankt
Jan 10 06:06:09 <Magicman|socializing> ik zie wel wie er is als ik terug kom
Jan 10 06:06:17 <Simeon> Geen idee hoe dat restaurant van ons heette, naja
Jan 10 06:07:11 <Magicman|socializing> hotel dei mille
Jan 10 06:07:55 <Simeon> Yay, ook de naam van 't hotel zou 'k zo niet weten - moet dat er verslag er maar eens bijpakken als 'k iets wil weten
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Jan 10 06:22:47 <Magicman> zozo... ben er weer
Jan 10 06:22:54 <Simeon> kzie het
Jan 10 06:24:30 <Magicman> denk dat iemand m'n internet verbinding aan't verkrachten was
Jan 10 06:24:37 <Magicman> MSN viel ook uit
Jan 10 06:24:41 <Magicman> en m'n browsers ook
Jan 10 06:25:07 <Simeon>

Jan 10 06:25:07 <Simeon> Vaag. Ik had eergisteren dat m'n hele pc uitviel en opnieuw opstartte maar ik ben er nog niet achter waardoor dat gebeurde eigenlijk..
Jan 10 06:26:03 <Magicman> Wow... da's weird
Jan 10 06:26:43 <Simeon> Ja, vond het ook best vaag - was gewoon op Internet bezig enzo maar ik heb er geen last van gehad, geen cookies weg of bestanden weg of andere vreemde dingen.
Jan 10 06:26:49 <Simeon> Niet dat ik weet in ieder geval, heh.
Jan 10 06:30:22 <Magicman> irritante neefjes...
Jan 10 06:30:39 <Simeon> Hmm, welke leeftijd?
Jan 10 06:30:49 <Magicman> 5
Jan 10 06:30:54 <Magicman> echte ettertjes
Jan 10 06:31:06 <Simeon> Ah, minder :-/
Jan 10 06:31:33 <Magicman> me broertje was dungeon keeper aan't doen
Jan 10 06:32:29 <Simeon> hmm.
Jan 10 06:33:17 <Magicman> stond dat gastje daarachter: hij heeft een enge groene hand!!
Jan 10 06:33:39 <Simeon> hehe, neefjes.
Jan 10 06:35:04 <Magicman> komen er nog mensen bij jou vandaag?
Jan 10 06:35:22 <Simeon> ja, vanavond komt volgens mij de familie e.d.
Jan 10 06:35:46 <Simeon> dus vanavond ben ik "minder bereikbaar" of offline, kzie nog wel.
Jan 10 06:36:03 <Magicman> hehe, okeej
Jan 10 06:36:24 <Simeon> maar ik geloof niet dat er vervelende neefjes komen, dus dat scheelt.
Jan 10 06:37:08 <Magicman> jah... zo wonen er ook heel wat ettertjes bij ons in de straat
Jan 10 06:37:14 <Magicman> kom je doodop van school thuis
Jan 10 06:37:39 <Magicman> "hoi" "wie ben jij" "wat ga je doen" "vind jij dat leuk" "kun jij dat goed" "waarom"
Jan 10 06:38:41 <Simeon> hmm, hier hebben we niet echt ettertjes in de straat. Bovendien kom ik met de fiets thuis dus een gesprek aanknopen gaat ook al moeilijk en van per
Jan 10 06:39:02 <Simeon> skip die laatste drie woorden/woordstukken
Jan 10 06:45:55 <Magicman> ik denk dat ik ook maar ga
Jan 10 06:46:05 <Magicman> er gebeurt hier niet zo heel veel meer
Jan 10 06:46:07 <Simeon> hmm, ok. See ya
Jan 10 06:46:11 <Simeon> Ja, echt veel gebeurt er niet
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Jan 10 07:33:13 <RustedSorrow> woppa
Jan 10 07:33:16 <RustedSorrow> did i miss it?
Jan 10 07:33:21 <RustedSorrow> hi btw
Jan 10 07:33:24 <Simeon> uhm, hi
Jan 10 07:33:28 <Simeon> not that much happened actually
Jan 10 07:33:44 <Simeon> Sabre didn't make it here and no real Dink chat happened
Jan 10 07:33:51 <RustedSorrow> oh
Jan 10 07:33:57 <RustedSorrow> soundslike sabre
Jan 10 07:34:09 <Simeon> yeah, his CPU died or something
Jan 10 07:34:10 <RustedSorrow> he always plans to do stuff but he never does
Jan 10 07:34:11 <RustedSorrow> i know
Jan 10 07:34:26 <RustedSorrow> we used to be partners
Jan 10 07:34:33 <Simeon> and I got there some hours later but still some people were there.
Jan 10 07:34:49 <RustedSorrow> and now there's mr. ego and you
Jan 10 07:35:04 <Simeon> Yeah, but mr. ego is logging only
Jan 10 07:35:22 <RustedSorrow> what does that mean?
Jan 10 07:35:28 <Simeon> as far as I know, at least he hasn't said anything
Jan 10 07:35:37 <Simeon> well, he's only here to make a logfile of the chat
Jan 10 07:35:43 <RustedSorrow> oh
Jan 10 07:35:47 <Simeon> but there's not really a need, because no Dink chat happened
Jan 10 07:35:55 <RustedSorrow> the stats are dead
Jan 10 07:36:03 <Simeon> so there's also not really a need for a logfile to post on the board
Jan 10 07:36:05 <RustedSorrow> and phoenix looks like my cousin
Jan 10 07:36:05 <Simeon> yeah
Jan 10 07:36:09 <Simeon> the stats have died some time ago
Jan 10 07:36:16 <Simeon> hmm, really?
Jan 10 07:36:37 <RustedSorrow> well in his latest pic he does
Jan 10 07:36:55 <Simeon> his latest picture on the Dink Squad, you mean?
Jan 10 07:37:06 <RustedSorrow> well duh- yeah -
Jan 10 07:37:23 <Simeon> well I dunno, you could also mean the one he has on MSN now
Jan 10 07:37:34 <RustedSorrow> well i don't msn him
Jan 10 07:37:48 <RustedSorrow> and in trillian you can't see those pic thingies
Jan 10 07:37:59 <RustedSorrow> and i have 1 dread on my head
Jan 10 07:38:04 <RustedSorrow> fake one
Jan 10 07:38:06 <Simeon> I have Trillian as well so I don't see any pictures either
Jan 10 07:38:11 <Simeon> Ah, nice.
Jan 10 07:38:26 <RustedSorrow> fingerwerk
Jan 10 07:39:13 <RustedSorrow> i need to play a dmod
Jan 10 07:39:22 <RustedSorrow> benn almost a year
Jan 10 07:39:33 <RustedSorrow> ok 0.5 year
Jan 10 07:39:47 <Simeon> Well, some D-Mods have been released, so there's probably a good one to find
Jan 10 07:40:07 <RustedSorrow> hmmm
Jan 10 07:40:15 <RustedSorrow> any recomendatians?
Jan 10 07:40:32 <Simeon> hmm, have you played my very own Blood Scorpions?
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Jan 10 07:40:48 <RustedSorrow> nope
Jan 10 07:40:49 <Simeon> heya magicman
Jan 10 07:40:52 <Magicman> hello
Jan 10 07:40:58 <Magicman> I thought, let's try again...
Jan 10 07:41:17 <Simeon> Are your nephews still there or..?
Jan 10 07:41:22 <RustedSorrow> hello
Jan 10 07:41:23 <Magicman> nope, they're gone
Jan 10 07:41:29 <Magicman> 5 minutes ago
Jan 10 07:41:39 <Simeon> Hehe, that figures
Jan 10 07:42:01 <Magicman> were you talking about something?
Jan 10 07:42:30 <RustedSorrow> uhh
Jan 10 07:42:37 <Simeon> Well, not really a topic, just some talk..
Jan 10 07:42:38 <RustedSorrow> about dmods
Jan 10 07:42:47 <RustedSorrow> i bet
Jan 10 07:42:51 <RustedSorrow> no
Jan 10 07:42:54 <RustedSorrow> about bananas
Jan 10 07:42:59 <RustedSorrow> o 'course
Jan 10 07:43:08 <Magicman> about bananas in DMods?
Jan 10 07:43:08 <RustedSorrow> oh
Jan 10 07:43:14 <RustedSorrow> i need to keep silent
Jan 10 07:43:19 <Simeon> hehe, well..
Jan 10 07:44:14 <RustedSorrow> cake?
Jan 10 07:44:46 <Simeon> slagroomtaart! :-9
Jan 10 07:44:57 <RustedSorrow> downloading blood skorpions
Jan 10 07:45:17 <Magicman> I have it. It's cool until where I'm now
Jan 10 07:45:20 <Simeon> @RS:
Jan 10 07:45:32 <Magicman> yeah, I'm stuck
Jan 10 07:45:37 <Simeon> Oh, where?
Jan 10 07:45:38 <Magicman> and that's not cool
Jan 10 07:45:40 <Magicman> dunno...
Jan 10 07:45:43 <RustedSorrow> in eindhoven>
Jan 10 07:45:57 <Simeon> hehe
Jan 10 07:45:59 <Magicman> No, Roosendaal
Jan 10 07:46:05 <Magicman>
Jan 10 07:46:21 <Magicman> I don't know where I'm stuck,
Jan 10 07:46:24 <RustedSorrow> oh
Jan 10 07:46:29 <Magicman>
Jan 10 07:46:36 <RustedSorrow> i have one friend in eindhoven
Jan 10 07:47:16 <RustedSorrow> he said that he was skating in the cold wehn some social workers watched them, and they're gonna build a skatepark because of them
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Jan 10 07:48:15 <Magicman> the coolest social workers ever, I bet
Jan 10 07:48:22 <Simeon> Yeah, it opened in July 2002
Jan 10 07:48:36 --- RS-bloodscorpions is now known as RustedSorrow
Jan 10 07:48:39 <RustedSorrow> no
Jan 10 07:48:44 <RustedSorrow> this winter
Jan 10 07:48:56 <RustedSorrow> they saw him this winter
Jan 10 07:49:06 <Simeon> Ah, another skatepark or one to replace the one that opened in July 2002/
Jan 10 07:49:07 <Simeon> *?
Jan 10 07:49:14 <RustedSorrow> dunno
Jan 10 07:49:20 <RustedSorrow> a new one i suppose
Jan 10 07:49:43 <Magicman> I don't know Eindhoven very well
Jan 10 07:50:01 <RustedSorrow> cya
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Jan 10 07:50:10 <Simeon> Neither do I but that's what I know.
Jan 10 07:50:16 <Simeon> Lala, Nederlands
Jan 10 07:50:34 <Magicman> vraag me af of merlin nog iets uit z'n log kan halen
Jan 10 07:50:53 <Simeon> mja, we hebben wel een aardig gedeelte in het Nederlands gesproken, dus..
Jan 10 07:51:34 <Magicman> boeie, ook
Jan 10 07:51:43 <Magicman> zijn probleem niet die van ons
Jan 10 07:52:08 <Simeon> wat maakt het eigenlijk uit, als mr. ego er problemen mee heeft dan kan ie dat niet eens duidelijk maken - hij weet toch niet of wij het over hem hebben gehad
Jan 10 07:52:15 <Simeon> wat tot nu toe nog niet het geval is, maar toch
Jan 10 07:52:35 <Magicman> nou... ik denk dat hij wel z'n naam in ons gezwam herkent
Jan 10 07:52:59 <Simeon> dat wel, maar de context wordt een beetje moeilijk.
Jan 10 07:53:04 <Magicman> eej, Chris is ook online
Jan 10 07:53:24 <Simeon> hmm, is ie dat niet al een hele tijd?
Jan 10 07:53:28 <Simeon> gezien m'n MSN lijst.. heh.
Jan 10 07:53:55 <Magicman> kan wel...
Jan 10 07:54:04 <Magicman> heb 'm eigenlijk niet zo gecheckt
Jan 10 07:54:08 <Magicman> de MSN lijst
Jan 10 07:54:25 <Magicman> was bezig te chatten, socializen en nog wat scripten voor BoE
Jan 10 07:54:34 <Magicman> btw. niet tegelijk
Jan 10 07:54:57 <Simeon> ach, het zou best kunnen - semi-tegelijk
Jan 10 07:55:15 <Magicman> chatten en scripten kan tegelijk
Jan 10 07:55:21 <Magicman> maar dan ook nog socializen
Jan 10 07:55:33 <Magicman> m'n PC staat op m'n kamer
Jan 10 07:55:33 <Simeon> dat hangt dan af van de plek van je pc en waar de anderen zijn..
Jan 10 07:55:47 <Simeon> ah, dan wordt het wat moelijk om het alledrie tegelijk te doen
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Jan 10 08:09:45 <RustedSorrow> how do i get those goblins out?
Jan 10 08:09:50 <RustedSorrow> just a hint please
Jan 10 08:09:59 <Magicman> bomb...
Jan 10 08:10:09 <RustedSorrow> k
Jan 10 08:10:19 <Simeon> heh.
Jan 10 08:10:21 <RustedSorrow> bye
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Jan 10 08:10:26 <Magicman> well, that's a hint, right?
Jan 10 08:10:32 <Simeon> hehe, yep
Jan 10 08:10:52 <Magicman> Oja! Ik weet weer waar ik vast zat
Jan 10 08:11:00 <Magicman> de hint is geloof ik ook 'bomb'
Jan 10 08:11:15 <Simeon> hangt er vanaf waar je bent..
Jan 10 08:11:18 <Magicman> ik zit nu in die ondergrondse stad
Jan 10 08:11:26 <Magicman> de tweede ingang is geblokkeerd met een steen
Jan 10 08:11:32 <Magicman> of zoiets in ieder geval
Jan 10 08:11:45 <Simeon> hmm..
Jan 10 08:11:50 <Simeon> oh daar, mja..
Jan 10 08:12:04 <Magicman> ik heb in het dorp waar je begint op een of andere manier al m'n bommen opgebruikt
Jan 10 08:12:09 <Magicman> en da was stom
Jan 10 08:12:32 <Simeon> nou, eigenlijk is 'bomb' niet de hint...
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Jan 10 08:13:43 <RS> where do i get a bomb?!
Jan 10 08:13:50 <Magicman> ghehe
Jan 10 08:13:52 <Simeon> search
Jan 10 08:14:00 <RS> duh
Jan 10 08:14:01 <Magicman> in some house...
Jan 10 08:14:07 <Simeon> yeah
Jan 10 08:14:08 <RS> i searched the vilage 3 times
Jan 10 08:14:15 <RS> the basements and such
Jan 10 08:14:17 <Magicman> basement...
Jan 10 08:14:21 <Simeon> basement...
Jan 10 08:14:22 <Magicman> that's it... basement
Jan 10 08:14:26 <RS> hint
Jan 10 08:14:31 <Simeon> yeah
Jan 10 08:14:33 <RS> please
Jan 10 08:14:36 <Magicman> the hint is basement
Jan 10 08:14:39 <Magicman> BASEMENT!!
Jan 10 08:14:40 <Simeon> that is the hint.
Jan 10 08:14:42 <RS> ok
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Jan 10 08:14:48 <Magicman> lol
Jan 10 08:14:51 <Simeon> hehe, lol
Jan 10 08:15:03 <Magicman> het is wel irri dat hij hem eerst moest opruimen
Jan 10 08:15:14 <Simeon> ja, maar dat heb ik veranderd met de patch
Jan 10 08:15:16 <Magicman> dan denk je als je terugkomt "ohja, hij moest hem nog opruimen"
Jan 10 08:15:19 <Magicman> oh...
Jan 10 08:15:31 <Simeon> in redink1s review stond dat ook als irritant zijnde
Jan 10 08:15:36 <Magicman> hmm, dan moet ik die nog downloaden
Jan 10 08:15:40 <Simeon> toen heb ik het veranderd geloof ik...
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Jan 10 08:16:54 <Simeon> hello RS
Jan 10 08:16:56 <RS> oh THAT basement ^_^
Jan 10 08:17:00 <Magicman> ghehe
Jan 10 08:17:08 <RS> i thought that guy din't let me
Jan 10 08:17:08 <Simeon> yess
Jan 10 08:17:21 <Magicman> well, he does now
Jan 10 08:17:27 <Simeon> dah, it's kinda a tricky basement
Jan 10 08:17:37 <RS> yep
Jan 10 08:26:24 <RS> secret realm? hint
Jan 10 08:26:45 <Simeon> ehm
Jan 10 08:26:47 <Simeon> rock
Jan 10 08:26:51 <RS> ok
Jan 10 08:26:54 <RS> pink?
Jan 10 08:26:58 <RS> hhe
Jan 10 08:26:59 <Simeon> perhaps
Jan 10 08:27:04 <RS> just joking
Jan 10 08:27:59 <Magicman> I accidentally found it's entrance
Jan 10 08:28:15 <Magicman> walking around, didn't pay attention, and...
Jan 10 08:28:20 <Magicman> you know what happened
Jan 10 08:28:58 <Simeon> well, you can only find it when you've already triggered the quest for it, but yeah, then it's still possible to find it accidentally .
Jan 10 08:30:31 <Magicman> hmm... I think I'm going play it too
Jan 10 08:30:38 <Simeon> hehe
Jan 10 08:30:41 <Magicman> now I'm talking about it
Jan 10 08:30:47 <Magicman> I'll come back when I need a hint
Jan 10 08:30:55 <Simeon> ok, I'll stay here.
Jan 10 08:30:56 <Magicman> but mostly I keep walking about for hours
Jan 10 08:31:04 <Magicman> Cya
Jan 10 08:31:09 <Simeon> see ya
Jan 10 08:31:10 <Magicman> I'll stay here too
Jan 10 08:31:20 --- Magicman is now known as Magicman|AlsoBS
Jan 10 08:31:50 <Simeon> People are playing my D-Mods right now 8-)
Jan 10 08:35:00 <Magicman|AlsoBS> Uhmm... the hint isn't 'push' nor 'bomb' nor 'club' nor 'sword'
Jan 10 08:35:02 <Magicman|AlsoBS> then what is it
Jan 10 08:35:17 <Simeon> You mean in the underground town, right?
Jan 10 08:35:30 <Magicman|AlsoBS> yeah... I need to enter the weapon-shop
Jan 10 08:35:32 <Magicman|AlsoBS> or something
Jan 10 08:35:44 <Simeon> Ah, you mean the rock outside?
Jan 10 08:35:50 <Magicman|AlsoBS> or the inside...
Jan 10 08:35:55 <Magicman|AlsoBS> but the outside has a script
Jan 10 08:35:58 <Simeon> There's no need to push, bomb, club or sword there
Jan 10 08:36:07 <Simeon> Simply explore and you'll find a way.
Jan 10 08:36:14 <Magicman|AlsoBS> Hmm...
Jan 10 08:36:19 <Magicman|AlsoBS> Ok
Jan 10 08:36:22 <Simeon> Yeah, but that script is only for a description
Jan 10 08:36:27 <Simeon> the script outside
Jan 10 08:36:38 <Magicman|AlsoBS> ah...
Jan 10 08:36:41 <Magicman|AlsoBS> thanks
Jan 10 08:41:47 <Magicman|AlsoBS> I've found it!
Jan 10 08:42:21 <Simeon> hehe
Jan 10 08:49:54 <-- RS (~trillian@=y3r-869-05.marinet.lt) has left #DinkSmallwood
Jan 10 08:52:45 <Magicman|AlsoBS> tough fight in the scorpion palace
Jan 10 08:53:01 <Simeon> Yeah, they crowd the screen easily.
Jan 10 08:59:20 <Simeon> But it is possible to win the fight.
Jan 10 09:02:04 <Magicman|AlsoBS> Yeah... They weren't respawning anymore last time i tried
Jan 10 09:02:22 <Magicman|AlsoBS> Trying again... I MUST WIN!!
Jan 10 09:02:27 <Simeon> Correct, after some time they stop respawning.
Jan 10 09:02:34 <Simeon> Good luck
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Jan 10 09:15:57 <Simeon> hello Tyrsis
Jan 10 09:16:03 <Tyrsis> Hi everybody!
Jan 10 09:16:14 <Magicman|AlsoBS> Hello
Jan 10 09:16:55 --- Magicman|AlsoBS is now known as Magicman
Jan 10 09:17:00 <Magicman> well, I quit trying...
Jan 10 09:17:04 <Magicman> maybe next time
Jan 10 09:17:08 <Simeon> Shame!
Jan 10 09:17:20 <Magicman> Hey, at least I didn't cheat
Jan 10 09:17:36 <Simeon> That's good
Jan 10 09:17:42 <Tyrsis> Who did?
Jan 10 09:17:51 <Simeon> I haven't tried if that's even possible though.
Jan 10 09:18:06 <Magicman> maybe with a key-nnn script
Jan 10 09:18:12 <Magicman> &life = &lifemax;
Jan 10 09:18:19 <Magicman> you know, standard cheat routine
Jan 10 09:18:24 <Tyrsis> Did I miss something?
Jan 10 09:18:27 <Simeon> Yeah, I know that script.
Jan 10 09:18:51 <Simeon> Magicman was playing Blood Scorpions - Scorpion Palace, the final battle.
Jan 10 09:19:05 <Magicman> Phew, at least it's the final battle
Jan 10 09:19:07 <Magicman>
Jan 10 09:19:16 <Magicman> Yeah, and I always died
Jan 10 09:19:27 <Simeon> I know, that's why it's the final battle
Jan 10 09:19:41 <Tyrsis> It is tough
Jan 10 09:20:05 <Simeon> Admitted, but it's possible.
Jan 10 09:20:23 <Tyrsis> I don't remember how many times I died when playing it
Jan 10 09:20:46 <Magicman> I don't want to remember...
Jan 10 09:20:51 <Simeon> But you managed to beat them in the end, or still trying?
Jan 10 09:21:09 <Tyrsis> But what a YESSS! I said after killing the ...d
Jan 10 09:21:32 <Simeon>
Jan 10 09:22:07 <Magicman> when I script bosses or something, the fight is mostly very fast
Jan 10 09:22:20 <Magicman> in 2 minutes you're done with it
Jan 10 09:22:30 <Tyrsis> Really, I hate too tough bosses
Jan 10 09:22:43 <Simeon> But that is a sub-boss then, right?
Jan 10 09:23:13 <Magicman> well, I've made a sub-boss in my DMod that crowds the screen with slayers
Jan 10 09:23:19 <Magicman> and teleports like hell
Jan 10 09:23:39 <Simeon> Sounds interesting to deal with
Jan 10 09:23:48 <Magicman> true
Jan 10 09:24:04 <Magicman> I needed 1 full health potion to beat him
Jan 10 09:24:11 <Magicman> and I had an enormous lifemax
Jan 10 09:24:47 <Tyrsis> Hmm... You must bear in mind that dink engine has a nasty restriction: the numner of sprites, scripts and variables used on one screen is very limited.
Jan 10 09:24:50 <Simeon> So if you play the D-Mod well enough; and thus a large lifemax, it should be possible.
Jan 10 09:24:57 <Magicman> yup
Jan 10 09:25:04 <Magicman> it's in BoE v2
Jan 10 09:25:28 <Magicman> yeah, I still have to find out how to limit the number of slayers
Jan 10 09:25:44 <Simeon> @Tyrsis; that's true, but I haven't had any problems with the blood scorpions.
Jan 10 09:25:57 <Magicman> 100 scorpions ís pretty much
Jan 10 09:26:07 <Simeon> Some Dinkers said the screen slowed or something but I haven't experienced that.
Jan 10 09:26:20 <Simeon> Yeah, but there are no 100 scorpions on screen.
Jan 10 09:26:30 <Magicman> nope, so it shouln't be a problem
Jan 10 09:26:52 <Magicman> and it were 200 vars or something?
Jan 10 09:26:57 <Magicman> 250?
Jan 10 09:27:23 <Tyrsis> int scripts_used(); - did you try it?
Jan 10 09:27:27 <Simeon> Hmm, I re-used variables too.
Jan 10 09:27:30 <Magicman> nope
Jan 10 09:27:48 <Magicman> but I never had any problems with my slayers
Jan 10 09:28:01 <Magicman> they kill eachother
Jan 10 09:28:45 <Simeon> Heh, I had that with the scorpions too - but I found a way around that, I think
Jan 10 09:29:16 <Magicman> yes, they don't do much damage, and they won't hunt themselves
Jan 10 09:29:35 <Simeon> Yep.
Jan 10 09:30:19 <Tyrsis> The dink engine maintains a single pool of 248 slots for variables. That's it, 248. All make_global_int() variables are always in that pool. If you have, say, 100 global variables, that leaves 148 slots left. Sounds like a lot, right? It's not: every local variable of every active script also needs a slot in that pool.
Jan 10 09:31:09 <Magicman> well... it's still a lot to me
Jan 10 09:31:13 <Simeon> Meaning the local variables are out of that pool or?
Jan 10 09:31:22 <Magicman> It's not: a lot
Jan 10 09:31:26 <Tyrsis> They are in
Jan 10 09:31:45 <Simeon> Yeah, I assumed that.
Jan 10 09:32:10 <Tyrsis> Ted Shutes found this out
Jan 10 09:32:22 <Simeon> Ah, Ted Shutes
Jan 10 09:32:22 <Magicman> That guy is a sub-God
Jan 10 09:32:30 <Magicman> Seth is God
Jan 10 09:33:02 <Tyrsis> Agreed
Jan 10 09:33:24 <Simeon> Yep.
Jan 10 09:34:54 <Magicman> Hmm, using Paul's Neat Script Trick and supervars, you can store a lot more values than there are variables
Jan 10 09:35:53 <Tyrsis> Yes
Jan 10 09:36:07 <Simeon> True.
Jan 10 09:36:58 <Tyrsis> If they can be only 1 or 1 - yu may stuff 31 vars in one variable
Jan 10 09:37:36 <Tyrsis> Oops... 1 or 0, i.e. boolean
Jan 10 09:37:59 <Simeon> Heh, yeah.
Jan 10 09:38:25 <Tyrsis> I did exactly that in Dink's Trunk
Jan 10 09:38:52 <Magicman> I know, maybe I'll use it someday or another
Jan 10 09:39:28 <Tyrsis> The only thing is to invent enough items
Jan 10 09:39:41 <Simeon> I downloaded it, but I haven't needed it so far.
Jan 10 09:41:44 <Tyrsis> Most people need only possibility to drop an item and multiple items in one slot.
Jan 10 09:42:26 <Tyrsis> If you put all elixirs in one slot - it's a lot of inventory space
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Jan 10 09:44:45 <Simeon> Eh..
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Jan 10 09:47:23 <Magicman> now, what was that?
Jan 10 09:49:28 <Tyrsis> Connection ...
Jan 10 09:50:13 --- Magicman is now known as Magicman|NotPayingAttention
Jan 10 09:50:26 <Simeon> Hmm.
Jan 10 09:52:18 <Tyrsis> Modems are evil.
Jan 10 09:52:47 <Simeon> Yeah.
Jan 10 09:52:54 <Simeon> Though some modems are nice.
Jan 10 09:54:20 <Simeon> Well, time to get some food. See y'all later.
Jan 10 09:54:32 <Tyrsis> Bye
Jan 10 09:54:39 <-- Simeon has quit (QUIT: See ya!)
Jan 10 09:56:16 <Magicman|NotPayingAttention> Oh, bye... little bit too late
Jan 10 09:57:13 <Tyrsis> Bye
Jan 10 09:57:58 <Magicman|NotPayingAttention> You're going too?
Jan 10 09:58:33 <Tyrsis> Not yet
Jan 10 10:02:11 --- Magicman|NotPayingAttention is now known as Magicman
Jan 10 10:18:46 <Merlin|logging> Wow
Jan 10 10:18:50 <Merlin|logging> people are still here
Jan 10 10:18:53 --- You are now known as Merlin
Jan 10 10:18:53 --- Merlin sets mode +R Merlin
Jan 10 10:19:30 <Magicman> yes, but we're not talking or anything...
Jan 10 10:19:37 <Magicman> not anymore/yet
Jan 10 10:19:43 <Merlin> I see.
Jan 10 10:20:33 <Magicman> Just some info on the chat:
Jan 10 10:20:38 <Magicman> Sabre wasn't there
Jan 10 10:20:47 <Magicman> SimonK and Phoenix were
Jan 10 10:20:57 <Magicman> Simeon is now eating, and might come back
Jan 10 10:21:15 <Magicman> RustedSorrow and Dukie were also here for a few minutes
Jan 10 10:21:26 <Merlin> lol
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Sorry I couldn't be there everybody, my computer hsa only just managed to turn itself on, rather late for the chat!
So I'm sorry.

Thank you Merlin for logging it so I could have a look, and see what went on. Suffice to say, Simonk is a wanker, and is banned from my chats. Noobie indeed....
And to all of you ("Sounds like Sabre", "he always plans to do stuff but he never does") people, I just want to say that at least I'm trying to get these chat's going. Even if I couldn't attend, surely you could have found something more interesting to talk about then my non-appearance.
I did say I might not make it. You ingrates.

Crap...forgot to erase that.

Suffice to say, Simonk is a wanker, and is banned from my chats. Noobie indeed....

Hate to tell you, fish boy, but all men are wankers, if not, then they are liars. Just asked any female And when you turn up you can ban me... MWHAHAHAHAHAHA

As for talking about your non-appearance. Well, it had to come up at some point, given your ... stubborn computer.

I thought there was some stuff in there that was midly interesting, as far as chats go, I doubt chats ever advance the cause of philosophy, science, arts, or Dinkiverse.

And we had one noobie turn up... meggido. He was entertaining.

I say, bring the stats page back... hold a chat contest... (although what is the prize, I dunno)

<embarassed>

"But all men are wankers"; You smug little chimp.

And as for fish-boy, at least come up with something original. Like wanker. That's original because I say so. And what I say goes. Because I'm Sabre. And those are the rules. YEAH!

That's original because I say so. And what I say goes. Because I'm Sabre. And those are the rules. YEAH!

If you came to the chat you could actually say all those things.

At least one person works by your rules... you!

Did you miss my point of WHY I missed that chat? Did you not pick up on my post that my CPU fan was screwed. Haven't you noticed a lack of posts by me in recent weeks?
I would have come to the chat if I could, and it's better that I arrange one, and some people turn up, then nobody aranges any chats at all, which is pretty much the case.

So you can get off my case. And everybody works by my rules, but they just don't realize it.

Fight fight

And everybody works by my rules, but they just don't realize it.

Dreaming... dreaming... dreaming...

Or maybe I'm dreaming...

Or the whole world is asleep...

This is not the first time... coincidence or serentdipity... or dreaming...