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Jan 10 00:22:34 <Invertigo> hello
Jan 10 00:22:42 <Invertigo> just visiting once again for no good reason
Jan 10 00:23:44 <Invertigo> hm
Jan 10 00:23:51 <Invertigo> and the room is empty once again
Jan 10 00:24:01 <Invertigo> or at least just temporarily dead
Jan 10 00:24:51 <Invertigo> well, i have a message for the dead
Jan 10 00:24:57 <Invertigo> "g00dbye
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Jan 10 01:59:02 <Magicman> Hello...
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Jan 10 02:06:11 <SimonK> hi de ho
Jan 10 02:06:51 <Magicman> Hello
Jan 10 02:07:02 <SimonK> Hmmm... big chat
Jan 10 02:07:42 <Magicman> not really...
Jan 10 02:08:50 <SimonK> Ah the beauty of sarcasm falls into the abyss of the ether(net)
Jan 10 02:09:43 <Magicman> Sabre probably won't show up, as usual...
Jan 10 02:10:09 <Magicman> problems with his CPU or something
Jan 10 02:10:14 <SimonK> Hmmm... oh well
Jan 10 02:11:55 <SimonK> Was there an agenda or topic for this chat?
Jan 10 02:12:13 <Magicman> Well...
Jan 10 02:12:15 <Magicman> I hope lot's of people attend, and subjects will include...
Jan 10 02:12:15 <Magicman> The Contest!
Jan 10 02:12:15 <Magicman> New Years Resolutions!
Jan 10 02:12:15 <Magicman> And just why I should be given a Nobel Prize!
Jan 10 02:12:22 <Magicman> this is what Sabre posted
Jan 10 02:13:01 <SimonK> Your or sabre for the nobel prize?
Jan 10 02:13:09 <SimonK> *you I meant
Jan 10 02:13:21 <Magicman> Sabre
Jan 10 02:13:32 <Magicman> but I won't mind talking about me
Jan 10 02:13:33 <Magicman>
Jan 10 02:13:56 <SimonK> More likely Noobie Prize
Jan 10 02:14:08 <SimonK> Okay, let's talk Magicman
Jan 10 02:14:12 <SimonK> So... what's up
Jan 10 02:14:26 <Magicman> Nothing special
Jan 10 02:14:33 <Magicman> just that I got early to bed yesterday
Jan 10 02:14:41 <Magicman> just so I didn't sleep over the chat
Jan 10 02:14:56 <SimonK> What time is it where you are?
Jan 10 02:15:05 <Magicman> 10:15 AM at the momen
Jan 10 02:15:09 <Magicman> t
Jan 10 02:15:43 <Magicman> I usually sleep until 12:00 on saturdays
Jan 10 02:15:47 <SimonK> Hmmm, so why would you fall asleep, and which part of Europe are you in - somewhere around the same latitude as Oslo
Jan 10 02:16:01 <SimonK> Or is that longitude?
Jan 10 02:16:12 <Magicman> I live in Holland
Jan 10 02:16:19 <Magicman> and I guess it's longitude
Jan 10 02:16:23 <SimonK> Ah ha!
Jan 10 02:16:50 <SimonK> The Netherlands... home of many a Dinker
Jan 10 02:17:09 <Magicman> Too bad TheProphet left
Jan 10 02:17:26 <Magicman> he lived just 20 minutes of cycling from me
Jan 10 02:17:37 <Magicman> never met him, though
Jan 10 02:17:37 <SimonK> He's left... is that for certain
Jan 10 02:18:00 <SimonK> A scary thing to meet a Dinker in real life
Jan 10 02:18:27 <Magicman> No experience with that
Jan 10 02:18:41 <Magicman> Chris and me were discussing some Dutch Dink meeting on MSN
Jan 10 02:18:56 <SimonK> Me neither... not too many Dinkers in Australia, let alone Sydney
Jan 10 02:19:20 <Magicman> but it were only some wild ideas
Jan 10 02:19:53 <SimonK> Chris... as in Christian
Jan 10 02:20:22 <Magicman> Yes, that one
Jan 10 02:20:36 <Magicman> strange guy
Jan 10 02:20:45 <Magicman> but really cool... on MSN anyway
Jan 10 02:21:24 <SimonK> Yes.. he's making a big DMOD I think
Jan 10 02:21:40 <Magicman> True
Jan 10 02:21:45 <Magicman> I work with him on that one
Jan 10 02:22:00 <Magicman> So do you, al far as I've heard
Jan 10 02:22:29 <SimonK> I did a graphic for a save machine, but he didn't want it... so I released it to the network.
Jan 10 02:22:38 <SimonK> I think that's about all he's asked me to do
Jan 10 02:22:58 <SimonK> Joshriot has asked for a windmill, and I still have to redo the one I sent him
Jan 10 02:23:08 <SimonK> But I'm been kinda lazy
Jan 10 02:23:26 <Magicman> I guess all Dinkers are
Jan 10 02:24:33 <Magicman> It took me two months to write three scripts
Jan 10 02:24:52 <SimonK> Yeah... I'm more interested in Blender at the moment, and it's game engine
Jan 10 02:25:16 <Magicman> Yes, it's an interesting program
Jan 10 02:25:41 <Magicman> It's very complex, right?
Jan 10 02:25:45 <Magicman> never really used it
Jan 10 02:26:04 <SimonK> Yeah it can be pretty complex. Just depends on what you're trying to do.
Jan 10 02:26:27 <SimonK> I'm trying to figure out how to get the game engine to work, and I haven't got a manual for it...
Jan 10 02:26:44 <SimonK> So it's a case of look for tutorials on the net and trial and error.
Jan 10 02:26:50 <SimonK> I need lots of trial and error
Jan 10 02:26:59 <Magicman> There are many samples included with balls that move over some surface
Jan 10 02:27:09 <Magicman> at least, they were included in my version
Jan 10 02:27:59 <SimonK> Yeah... I can get a ball thing moving, but I want the camera to move with it, and then have a key which let's you change to first person shooter mode, all of which can be done
Jan 10 02:28:08 <SimonK> I just gotta figure out Python and stuff
Jan 10 02:29:03 <Magicman> never heard of Python before I started Blender
Jan 10 02:29:23 <Magicman> or it must be Monty Python... but that's something completely different
Jan 10 02:29:27 <SimonK> Me neither... haven't really done much yet
Jan 10 02:29:55 <SimonK> My only program language/scripting stuff is some java, some Basic (many, many years ago) and DinkC
Jan 10 02:30:01 <SimonK> Hahahaha
Jan 10 02:30:20 <Magicman> That's about all I know too
Jan 10 02:30:30 <Magicman> well, I can do some HTML, QBasic and DinkC
Jan 10 02:30:38 <Magicman> and a tiny little bit of JavaScript
Jan 10 02:31:07 <SimonK> Hmmm, yes some html I know... but not much... I stopped trying to learn it when style sheets came in
Jan 10 02:33:14 <Magicman> style sheets are usefull, and it sounds more difficult than it is really
Jan 10 02:33:22 <DN-Phoenix> *yawn*
Jan 10 02:33:37 <Magicman> just like adding graphics to Dink, you have to try it
Jan 10 02:33:43 <Magicman> Oh, good morning, Phoenix
Jan 10 02:33:51 <SimonK> yeah I guess so
Jan 10 02:33:51 <DN-Phoenix> He-lo.
Jan 10 02:33:56 <Magicman> Had a nice sleep?
Jan 10 02:34:04 <DN-Phoenix> I guess so.
Jan 10 02:35:24 <SimonK> So Phoenix, how's EasyDinkC 2 coming along...
Jan 10 02:35:41 <DN-Phoenix> it's on a standstill atm.. I'm.. bored with mostly anything.
Jan 10 02:36:05 <SimonK> bummer, it was looking good on those screenshots
Jan 10 02:36:18 <DN-Phoenix> it's working well so far too..
Jan 10 02:36:28 <DN-Phoenix> but I uh.. don't feel like working on it.
Jan 10 02:36:42 <SimonK> So how much more is there to do
Jan 10 02:36:55 <DN-Phoenix> Quite a lot.
Jan 10 02:37:06 <SimonK> double bummmer
Jan 10 02:37:16 <Magicman> Like what?
Jan 10 02:37:39 <DN-Phoenix> like adding all the things that makes it "easy"
Jan 10 02:38:11 <Magicman> Submit it as "DifficultDinkC" then
Jan 10 02:38:20 <DN-Phoenix> heh.
Jan 10 02:38:32 <SimonK> Or as an alpha release...
Jan 10 02:38:50 <SimonK> and then get bugged by all the people emailing you asking for changes, updates, requests
Jan 10 02:38:59 <SimonK> :-\
Jan 10 02:39:03 <Magicman> people like me
Jan 10 02:39:06 <DN-Phoenix> well, you can't save yet, and it cannot detect if you've changed the document..
Jan 10 02:39:29 <Magicman> Oy, that would be Uber-DifficultDinkC
Jan 10 02:39:41 <Magicman> Copy every script to Notepad before saving it
Jan 10 02:41:10 <Magicman> This chat is going on slow. 40 minutes already, and only we three talking
Jan 10 02:41:13 <DN-Phoenix> anyway, you guys are in luck, I just felt like working a little on it.
Jan 10 02:41:19 <Magicman> WOOOHOOO
Jan 10 02:41:55 <SimonK> yeah baby
Jan 10 02:42:10 <SimonK> Me... I just read the thing about purple bananas on the DN
Jan 10 02:42:33 <SimonK> I might just make some as a new enemie... that casts... banana smoothies as a weapon
Jan 10 02:42:38 <SimonK> *enemy
Jan 10 02:43:27 <SimonK> Or a Bouncing Banana in a blender that casts purple banana missiles...
Jan 10 02:43:31 <SimonK> But I'm rambling here
Jan 10 02:44:19 <Magicman> You know the puke-graphics from Mystery Island?
Jan 10 02:44:35 <DN-Phoenix> I'm kinda sad about the DinkC++ and the new Dink engine though. I feel like my work is just a waste.
Jan 10 02:45:10 <Magicman> I feel DinkC++ is getting more difficult than DinkC
Jan 10 02:45:25 <Magicman> so the newbies will have a harder time making a DMod
Jan 10 02:46:37 <SimonK> Hmmm, what's the status of all that
Jan 10 02:46:53 <DN-Phoenix> It'll be more like this: (for a choice menu for instance
Jan 10 02:46:53 <DN-Phoenix> Choice.Title="wahaha"
Jan 10 02:46:53 <DN-Phoenix> Choice.Color="Wahahaa"
Jan 10 02:46:53 <DN-Phoenix> Choice.Y=23
Jan 10 02:46:53 <DN-Phoenix> Choice.Show
Jan 10 02:46:56 <DN-Phoenix> or something
Jan 10 02:47:28 <SimonK> I see
Jan 10 02:47:37 <DN-Phoenix> at least that's what I think of when I think of an OOP oriented language.
Jan 10 02:47:45 <DN-Phoenix> they may have something more difficult in mind.
Jan 10 02:47:59 <SimonK> Well the community will decide it's popularity I guess
Jan 10 02:48:18 <Magicman> Experienced programmers would just think it rules
Jan 10 02:48:27 <Magicman> but the new people...
Jan 10 02:48:28 <DN-Phoenix> I never saw what was wrong with the original dink in the first place.. if they could just fix that up, then it would be good.
Jan 10 02:48:45 <DN-Phoenix> add a few features and such, to make it more up to date.
Jan 10 02:49:12 <SimonK> Dan added a couple for his redink.exe which were good
Jan 10 02:49:43 <SimonK> screenlock bug fix, animating tiles fixed, changing palettes on the fly and the palette bmps no longer have to be 640 by 400
Jan 10 02:52:00 <SimonK> plus a couple of extra math funtions
Jan 10 02:52:25 <SimonK> Butterscotch snapps and coffee is an interesting mix
Jan 10 02:53:02 <Magicman> And that has to do anything with redink.exe?
Jan 10 02:53:18 <Magicman>
Jan 10 02:53:19 <SimonK> No that was the request he did add
Jan 10 02:53:24 <SimonK> *didn't
Jan 10 02:57:07 <Magicman> You know what I re-discovered last week?
Jan 10 02:57:23 <SimonK> gravity
Jan 10 02:57:32 <Magicman> Oh, that one too...
Jan 10 02:57:38 <Magicman> but I meant DOOM
Jan 10 02:57:55 <SimonK> oh yeah... i used to love that game
Jan 10 02:58:02 <Magicman> It's the first retro-game that made me an addict since Dink
Jan 10 02:58:35 --- DN-Phoenix is now known as DN-Phoenix|food
Jan 10 02:58:51 <SimonK> That was one of the second game I made a mod for... first was Wolfenstien
Jan 10 03:00:00 <Magicman> Ah, you too have something in your mind that says: "Hmm, game with mod-support... Must... make... mod... must"
Jan 10 03:00:09 <Magicman> well... I have, anyway
Jan 10 03:02:41 <SimonK> Well Wolfenstien was the first "first person shooter"... and it had an editor... and it had zombies... yeah hah!
Jan 10 03:02:51 <SimonK> Doom for me was the ultimate
Jan 10 03:03:05 <SimonK> I used to deathmatch on BBS in sydney and at work
Jan 10 03:04:29 <Magicman> I still like it
Jan 10 03:04:32 <Magicman> the simplicity
Jan 10 03:04:52 <Magicman> the ambience
Jan 10 03:05:52 <SimonK> Yeah... I interested in seeing what DOOM 3 is like, but it seems to take forever to get released
Jan 10 03:07:14 <Magicman> It might get the "Daikatana"-award
Jan 10 03:07:28 <SimonK> What's that?
Jan 10 03:07:53 <Magicman> Well, "Daikatana" was delayed very much
Jan 10 03:08:09 <Magicman> véry much
Jan 10 03:08:25 <Magicman> like Diablo II, and almost any Blizzard game
Jan 10 03:08:41 <Magicman> but Daikatana is the king of the delays
Jan 10 03:08:48 <SimonK> ah...
Jan 10 03:08:53 <SimonK> I might have guessed
Jan 10 03:08:59 <Magicman> At least, that's what I've heard
Jan 10 03:20:33 <SimonK> Hmmm, so i guess that was the chat
Jan 10 03:21:19 <Magicman> I expected more of it, though
Jan 10 03:21:35 <Magicman> More people to come
Jan 10 03:22:35 <SimonK> Hey, did the stats page get taken down?
Jan 10 03:22:40 <Magicman> yes...
Jan 10 03:22:49 <Magicman> a long time ago
Jan 10 03:23:09 <SimonK> any reason why
Jan 10 03:24:42 <Magicman> maybe there weren't enough visitors
Jan 10 03:24:51 <Magicman> or Phoenix was a bored as he is now
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Jan 10 03:27:48 <SimonK> here's a site for a RPG someone's doing in game blender... looks interesting.... http://project-blender.onlinehome.de/TQ-Pics/Twilight-Quest.html
Jan 10 03:27:57 <Magicman> hi megiddo!
Jan 10 03:27:59 <SimonK> hi there
Jan 10 03:28:04 --- DN-Phoenix|food is now known as DN-Phoenix
Jan 10 03:28:07 <megiddo> hey all
Jan 10 03:28:17 <megiddo> how's it?
Jan 10 03:28:21 <DN-Phoenix> the stats were taken down because I could not leave my PC on 24/7
Jan 10 03:28:32 <SimonK> ah...
Jan 10 03:28:39 <Magicman> that's a good reason
Jan 10 03:28:45 <SimonK> I thought you were just going to log when you were on
Jan 10 03:28:57 <DN-Phoenix> that would make the stats very biased.
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Jan 10 03:29:34 <DN-Phoenix> most americans were on around midnight to 4 in the morning (my time)
Jan 10 03:30:23 <SimonK> Ah well... too bad... I think it kinda keep a bit of life to the chat
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Jan 10 03:30:36 <SimonK> It was an interesting page to read other people's old quotes
Jan 10 03:30:49 <SimonK> A trivia thing
Jan 10 03:30:55 <megiddo> first time on this applet...fell off the face of the world for a second there
Jan 10 03:31:05 <megiddo> will try not to do it again
Jan 10 03:31:31 <SimonK> It happens... You could use mIRC or something else
Jan 10 03:31:42 <megiddo> i should yes...
Jan 10 03:31:54 <DN-Phoenix> the chat died out anyway... so I also took it down because of that. It boosted the.. popularity of the chat for a while, but humans are humans, and they're not eternally amused by one single thing.
Jan 10 03:32:07 <SimonK> So, you're a Flash man megiddo?
Jan 10 03:32:44 <SimonK> Phoenix: Hmmm... I'd still vote for it to come back
Jan 10 03:32:48 <megiddo> yeah
Jan 10 03:32:56 <megiddo> fun program
Jan 10 03:33:03 <SimonK> As a living kinda thing?
Jan 10 03:33:17 <SimonK> I had a play with Director the other week.
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Jan 10 03:33:35 <megiddo> yeah, touch and go...end of the year was tough
Jan 10 03:33:37 <SimonK> Did the tutorial on making things animated and have buttons, play a QT... etc
Jan 10 03:34:06 <megiddo> you know, apparently it's very similar...but I haven't messed with it much
Jan 10 03:34:23 <megiddo> y, you dig it?
Jan 10 03:34:29 <SimonK> It's what I've heard, my nephew had it on his computer
Jan 10 03:34:44 <SimonK> So I thought I'd see what I could do with it
Jan 10 03:34:58 <SimonK> But I only made a start.
Jan 10 03:35:02 <megiddo> Flash is an easier entry
Jan 10 03:35:05 <megiddo> and cheaper
Jan 10 03:35:13 <SimonK> Have to learn more about it's scripting language LINGO to judge properly I guess
Jan 10 03:35:27 <megiddo> Actionscript is actually starting to resemble a language
Jan 10 03:36:13 <SimonK> let alone explore its 3D options - not sure what they could do at all...
Jan 10 03:36:17 --- Magicman|drinking is now known as Magicman
Jan 10 03:36:40 <SimonK> I got caught up trying to write a fade down and fade up script for the animation of the sun setting and rising
Jan 10 03:37:00 <megiddo> yeah, Flash does not support 3d as such
Jan 10 03:37:14 <SimonK> Now if the new Dink Engine could play a shockwave plug-in or flash plug-in, would that be better than an avi cut scene, I wonder?
Jan 10 03:37:24 <megiddo> so if that's what you're wanting to do, Director
Jan 10 03:37:34 <megiddo> sure, smaller because it would be vector
Jan 10 03:37:37 <SimonK> I see...
Jan 10 03:37:45 <DN-Phoenix> would look nice resized too.
Jan 10 03:37:46 <DN-Phoenix>
Jan 10 03:37:54 <megiddo> zactly
Jan 10 03:37:57 <SimonK> If I come across Flash I might give it a whirl
Jan 10 03:38:07 <megiddo> it's around.
Jan 10 03:38:16 <DN-Phoenix> it's costy.
Jan 10 03:38:22 <megiddo> get the 30-day trial
Jan 10 03:38:32 <megiddo> all Macromedia appz typically have a 30 day
Jan 10 03:38:42 <megiddo> plenty of time to get a feel...
Jan 10 03:39:00 <SimonK> I came across a texture world program that looked good for creating seamless textures
Jan 10 03:39:14 <SimonK> In fact I might just go start downloading it, since I'm on dial-up
Jan 10 03:39:22 <megiddo> really? what's it called
Jan 10 03:39:33 <megiddo> was looking at some myself...
Jan 10 03:39:50 <SimonK> Hang on... I was at work when I found it... so I gotta jog a few brain cells here
Jan 10 03:40:14 <megiddo> been messing around with photoshop Filter > Other > Offset...
Jan 10 03:40:17 <megiddo> k
Jan 10 03:40:28 <SimonK> yeah... that's good for it
Jan 10 03:40:37 <SimonK> I use PSP and manually try the same thing
Jan 10 03:41:02 <DN-Phoenix> gtg, restarting.
Jan 10 03:41:02 <megiddo> right...by duping the image and placing it by hand?
Jan 10 03:41:19 <DN-Phoenix> I have trouble with the ntoskrnl.exe. eheheheh.. *sigh*
Jan 10 03:41:20 <SimonK> I can't remember the name, dang... and no history on this computer
Jan 10 03:41:34 <Magicman> Phoenix: CU in a while
Jan 10 03:41:45 <SimonK> cya later Phoenix
Jan 10 03:41:55 <megiddo> cu P
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Jan 10 03:42:22 <megiddo> been thinking alot about helping those without pro software make tiles and such
Jan 10 03:42:41 <SimonK> Okay... here's the link http://www.i-tex.de/
Jan 10 03:42:56 <megiddo> tonight (or this morning rather...it's nearly 5am) made an isogrid in Illustrator
Jan 10 03:42:59 <megiddo> k
Jan 10 03:43:12 <SimonK> Hey, you offer to do graphics... you'll get a quite a few people sticking their hands up
Jan 10 03:44:12 <megiddo> right...well I was thinking along the lines of an in-depth tut on isometrics and such
Jan 10 03:44:42 <megiddo> i know graphics...just not the Dink engine or dinkC....but intend to learn
Jan 10 03:45:05 <megiddo> but making graphics or a graphics pack is on my mind for sure
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Jan 10 03:45:50 <Simeon> Ah, still some people here
Jan 10 03:45:57 <SimonK|inDisguise> Ah the joys of dial up
Jan 10 03:45:59 <Magicman> They're only coming now
Jan 10 03:46:03 <Magicman> the people
Jan 10 03:46:16 <megiddo> yup. just gettin' going...
Jan 10 03:46:22 <Simeon> It was empty here around 10 then?
Jan 10 03:46:25 <Magicman> Yup
Jan 10 03:46:36 <Magicman> only Phoenix, SimonK and me
Jan 10 03:46:41 <SimonK|inDisguise> Just me and Magicman, and Phoenix off doing somthing
Jan 10 03:46:49 <Simeon> Ah, I see.
Jan 10 03:46:53 <Magicman> great... 2 SimonK's
Jan 10 03:46:55 <megiddo> crap...pardon me while I install mIRC - brb
Jan 10 03:47:07 <Magicman> sure
Jan 10 03:47:18 <SimonK|inDisguise> yep, the dead me, who will get booted soon... and the real me
Jan 10 03:47:55 <Magicman> And the rest of you, Smith?
Jan 10 03:47:56 <Magicman>
Jan 10 03:48:17 <SimonK|inDisguise> Smith? as in agent?
Jan 10 03:48:27 <Magicman> yup, that one
Jan 10 03:48:58 <SimonK|inDisguise> It's weird. I can't watch anything with Hugo Weaving in now without thinking of him as Agent Smith...
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Jan 10 03:49:07 <Magicman> Hey!
Jan 10 03:49:11 <SimonK|inDisguise> In LotR... even
Jan 10 03:49:12 <Simeon> aheya
Jan 10 03:49:19 <Magicman> yeah... Elrond
Jan 10 03:49:39 <SimonK|inDisguise> I saw RotK again last night
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Jan 10 03:49:50 <DN-Phoenix> me = reinstalling system - today.
Jan 10 03:50:08 <DN-Phoenix> I think.
Jan 10 03:50:09 <DN-Phoenix>
Jan 10 03:50:18 <Magicman> hehe
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Jan 10 03:50:31 <Magicman> RotK was good
Jan 10 03:50:36 <Simeon> Indeed it was
Jan 10 03:50:38 <SimonK> At last I reveal my true self!
Jan 10 03:50:50 <Simeon> Welcome back, Mr. Anderson.
Jan 10 03:51:05 <SimonK> Yeah... but I've gotta go watch the TT again... as there were a couple things that didn't sit right for me
Jan 10 03:51:15 <SimonK> Yeah...
Jan 10 03:51:36 <SimonK> Him
Jan 10 03:51:42 <Magicman> I did a LotR marathon just before the holidy
Jan 10 03:51:49 <Magicman> day
Jan 10 03:52:20 <megiddo> darn
Jan 10 03:52:40 <megiddo> what do I do to connect via mIRC...sry
Jan 10 03:53:08 <megiddo> ah toast it...i'm missing all the fun. i'll do it later
Jan 10 03:53:14 <SimonK> okay I'm going to see about a problem someone has with PQ - be back later
Jan 10 03:53:18 <Magicman> About this: http://www.dinknetwork.com/chat_mirc.shtml
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Jan 10 03:54:58 <DN-Phoenix> and read the text, don't follow the pictures.
Jan 10 03:55:50 <Magicman> bill@gates.usa
Jan 10 03:55:58 <Magicman> ghehe... never saw it before
Jan 10 03:58:02 <DN-Phoenix> har har, yes. I made that up.
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Jan 10 03:58:58 <megiddo> alright then...mIRC
Jan 10 03:59:04 <Simeon> So, did Sabre actually make it to the chat?
Jan 10 03:59:09 <Magicman> no...
Jan 10 03:59:33 <Simeon> Heh.
Jan 10 03:59:41 <Magicman> We didn't talk about the Contest, New Years Resolutions, nor about why he should be given a nobel prize
Jan 10 03:59:55 <Magicman> well... maybe 2 lines were devoted to the last topic
Jan 10 04:00:02 <DN-Phoenix> he never shows up. I really hope you didn't expect him to.
Jan 10 04:00:25 <Magicman> The last time I saw him here was in his chat in the summer holiday
Jan 10 04:00:28 <DN-Phoenix> he's the only european who offered himself to be a chat staff guy (besides Kory)
Jan 10 04:00:31 <Simeon> Well, I wasn't there anyway - but I just saw the message on the board about his CPU dying so... heh.
Jan 10 04:00:34 <Magicman> the first 10 minutes
Jan 10 04:00:35 <SimonK|PQing> Too busy sticking a sabre up a trout
Jan 10 04:00:42 <megiddo> hahaha
Jan 10 04:00:57 <Magicman> Kory european too?
Jan 10 04:01:03 <DN-Phoenix> Croatian
Jan 10 04:01:11 <Simeon> Yep.
Jan 10 04:01:20 <Magicman> Didn't know that
Jan 10 04:01:40 <megiddo> anyone here near Texas and as crazy as I am for not having gone to bed yet?
Jan 10 04:02:00 <DN-Phoenix> I have 32 €.
Jan 10 04:02:02 <DN-Phoenix> yay.
Jan 10 04:02:03 <DN-Phoenix>
Jan 10 04:02:16 <DN-Phoenix> or was it 39 €?
Jan 10 04:02:20 <megiddo> Vampire by night, Zombie by day...
Jan 10 04:02:21 <DN-Phoenix> eh, doesn't matter.
Jan 10 04:02:42 <Magicman> I guess nobody near Texas
Jan 10 04:02:47 <Magicman> dunno where merlin lives though
Jan 10 04:02:49 <megiddo> right
Jan 10 04:03:20 <megiddo> redink1 is in Michigan right?
Jan 10 04:03:30 <megiddo> same, t-zone as TX
Jan 10 04:03:31 <SimonK|PQing> dang, windows explorer was NOT RESPONDING... bloody XP Pro
Jan 10 04:03:46 <DN-Phoenix> I have XP Pro.
Jan 10 04:03:54 <DN-Phoenix> It's r0xx0rz for me.
Jan 10 04:03:59 <megiddo> how is that. i'm on 2k pro still
Jan 10 04:04:01 <Magicman> It isn't XP Pro... I have the same thing with 98 SE
Jan 10 04:04:11 <Simeon> I have Home :-I
Jan 10 04:04:44 <DN-Phoenix> home suxx0rz.
Jan 10 04:05:15 <Simeon> :'-(
Jan 10 04:05:16 <Simeon>
Jan 10 04:05:16 <megiddo> so whilst I was messing with mIRC, I missed the RotK talk...LOVED IT
Jan 10 04:05:39 <megiddo> best one in my opinion...but maybe that's just b/c it was the last
Jan 10 04:06:09 <Magicman> When was the last time you saw the other ones?
Jan 10 04:06:30 <megiddo> well, saw TTT EE month b4 RotK
Jan 10 04:06:44 <megiddo> which also rocked. i dunno, i just love them all
Jan 10 04:07:24 <megiddo> love the extra footage in the extended eds
Jan 10 04:07:38 <Magicman> and in the special-extended
Jan 10 04:07:53 <megiddo> lol - right.
Jan 10 04:08:06 <Magicman> Everything on LotR just rules
Jan 10 04:08:13 <Magicman> well, almost everything
Jan 10 04:08:19 <Simeon> Hehe
Jan 10 04:08:26 <Magicman> Tom Bombadil had to be in the movies too
Jan 10 04:08:35 <megiddo> well Frodo and Sam never went to Osgiliath...but don't get me started
Jan 10 04:08:55 <Magicman> and the elves never were to defend Helm's Deep
Jan 10 04:08:58 <Magicman>
Jan 10 04:09:08 <megiddo> exactly
Jan 10 04:09:31 <Magicman> looked through the book THREE TIMES just to check if it really isn't in there
Jan 10 04:09:48 <megiddo> lol
Jan 10 04:09:48 <DN-Phoenix> I'm gonna do a weird re-installation this time...
Jan 10 04:10:02 <Magicman> Way to go Phoenix
Jan 10 04:10:14 <megiddo> thought that Shelob should have been the ending of TT like in the books.
Jan 10 04:10:19 <DN-Phoenix> I'm gonna partition my disk, and install DOS 6.22, Windows 3.11, Windows 98 SE, Windows XP and Windows .NET Server.. now howzaboutz that?
Jan 10 04:10:20 <megiddo> such a great cliffhanger!
Jan 10 04:10:31 <Magicman> you need Windows 1 too?
Jan 10 04:10:35 <Magicman> I have it somewhere
Jan 10 04:10:44 <DN-Phoenix> err... no thanks.
Jan 10 04:10:59 <DN-Phoenix> If I needed everything, I'd go for win95 and winME too.
Jan 10 04:11:04 <DN-Phoenix> I just need one of each sort.
Jan 10 04:11:06 <megiddo> wow you guys are a repository of out of date OS's
Jan 10 04:11:21 <Magicman> I have Windows 95 Diskette edition
Jan 10 04:11:28 <Magicman> 22 disks
Jan 10 04:11:35 <megiddo> pre-CD?
Jan 10 04:11:36 <megiddo> wow
Jan 10 04:11:51 <Magicman> I haven't got anything later than 98Se though
Jan 10 04:12:10 <Magicman> and windows BOB
Jan 10 04:12:40 <Simeon> I've got Windows 3.11, 98 and XP
Jan 10 04:13:30 <megiddo> used to have BeOS
Jan 10 04:13:39 <Magicman> Dos 1, anyone???
Jan 10 04:13:48 <Simeon> Ah, and DOS some version
Jan 10 04:13:50 <DN-Phoenix> I wish BeOS made it. I loved it.
Jan 10 04:13:57 <megiddo> and I didn't know until recently that NExt is what turned into OS X
Jan 10 04:14:16 <SimonK|PQing> Hmmm... found a bug in PQ... if you get Dink to step into the tornado and he gets sucked up and passes a big red heart... he starts dying and then comes back to life, but is frozen off screen
Jan 10 04:14:19 <megiddo> yeah, it was killer. Never really had it that long
Jan 10 04:14:25 <SimonK|PQing> Hmmm... never thought of that combination
Jan 10 04:14:55 <megiddo> spoilers! NO!
Jan 10 04:15:04 <megiddo> haven't finished SOB yet
Jan 10 04:15:16 <megiddo> jk
Jan 10 04:15:25 <DN-Phoenix> shame on thee, SimonKee.. err..
Jan 10 04:16:07 <megiddo> so SK, you have a Big Book O' Riddles lying around the house?
Jan 10 04:16:49 <megiddo> ...makes me think of Blain the Pain...anyone read the Dark Tower series by S. King?
Jan 10 04:17:32 <megiddo> would be a cool dmod. free standing doors on the beach that warp to other dimensions...there gave that one away...run with it.
Jan 10 04:18:45 <Magicman> A Myst DMod
Jan 10 04:18:49 <Magicman> would also be cool
Jan 10 04:19:11 <Simeon> Yeah.
Jan 10 04:19:36 <megiddo> has anyone done a: push the right combo of <rocks, vases etc> on floor switches...
Jan 10 04:19:42 <megiddo> to unlock something?
Jan 10 04:19:58 <megiddo> seems possible in Dink
Jan 10 04:20:24 <Magicman> Owyeah
Jan 10 04:20:30 <Magicman> In PQ...
Jan 10 04:20:37 <Magicman> you must align 3 stone heads
Jan 10 04:20:39 <Simeon> It has been done, if I remember.
Jan 10 04:20:43 <megiddo> nice
Jan 10 04:20:45 <Magicman> Dang... now I'm spoiling too
Jan 10 04:20:49 <megiddo> ha!
Jan 10 04:21:04 <megiddo> well, I asked. it's cool. (grumble grumble)
Jan 10 04:21:45 <Magicman> I guess Simeon here has scripted very script-complex puzzles
Jan 10 04:21:58 <Magicman> in WOD
Jan 10 04:22:06 <Magicman> I didn't play it, but what I heard
Jan 10 04:22:07 <Simeon> Yeah, there's at least one puzzle in my three D-Mods.
Jan 10 04:22:07 <megiddo> ok. how about this one: dang, Dink's bow drawing animation is slow. I'm thinking Legolas!
Jan 10 04:22:15 <megiddo> cool
Jan 10 04:22:22 <Simeon> I mean; at least one per D-Mod.
Jan 10 04:22:40 <megiddo> figured that
Jan 10 04:22:50 <Magicman> I'm thinking of even more complex things with the bow thing
Jan 10 04:22:55 <DN-Phoenix> I wonder if I can ever get a hold of Windows 3.11
Jan 10 04:23:01 <Magicman> here, here!!
Jan 10 04:23:05 <Simeon> A possibility exists that one of those puzzle will be used in a D&D game of a friend
Jan 10 04:23:09 <megiddo> me too...you shoot first
Jan 10 04:23:21 <megiddo> MM
Jan 10 04:23:21 <Magicman> Then, I guess it's 3.11
Jan 10 04:23:26 <Magicman> could be 3.10 too
Jan 10 04:23:55 <DN-Phoenix> eh, doesn't really matter.. the thing is that I used to own 3.11, but when Windows 32-bit came along, I used those disks for something else.
Jan 10 04:24:04 <megiddo> brb fellas
Jan 10 04:24:17 <DN-Phoenix> so I wouldn't see it as a crime to like.. download it from KaZaA or something, but it's kinda hard to find.
Jan 10 04:24:25 <Simeon> gotta eat, see ya'll later.
Jan 10 04:24:26 <megiddo> (hopes that everone here is a fella and has not offended a woman)
Jan 10 04:24:32 --- Simeon is now known as Simeon|food
Jan 10 04:24:35 <Magicman> I'm a fella
Jan 10 04:24:41 <Magicman> Simeon too, Phoenix too
Jan 10 04:24:42 <Magicman> ehm...
Jan 10 04:24:49 <Magicman> I guess everyone here is a fella
Jan 10 04:24:57 <megiddo> whew
Jan 10 04:25:07 <megiddo> k - now that it's settled - brb
Jan 10 04:25:44 <Magicman>
Jan 10 04:26:34 <Magicman> I could give you a copy of my version
Jan 10 04:26:46 <DN-Phoenix> mm.. sure. It'd be nice.
Jan 10 04:27:08 <Magicman> btw. It's Disk-version
Jan 10 04:27:15 <DN-Phoenix> is there anything else?
Jan 10 04:27:27 <DN-Phoenix> Did win3.11 ever come on CD?
Jan 10 04:27:35 <Magicman> I guess not...
Jan 10 04:27:38 <Magicman> not that I know
Jan 10 04:27:44 <DN-Phoenix> me neither.
Jan 10 04:27:47 <DN-Phoenix> I don't think so though.
Jan 10 04:27:54 <DN-Phoenix> I always had Disks..
Jan 10 04:28:48 <Magicman> it's 8 MB, should I mail it?
Jan 10 04:28:54 <Magicman> or what connection do you have?
Jan 10 04:29:05 <DN-Phoenix> don't you have any kind of IM?
Jan 10 04:29:12 <Magicman> MSN
Jan 10 04:29:14 <Magicman> only that
Jan 10 04:29:31 <DN-Phoenix> that should do, shouldn't it..
Jan 10 04:30:20 <Magicman> yeah
Jan 10 04:30:34 <DN-Phoenix> hold on, brb.
Jan 10 04:34:24 <DN-Phoenix> have my msn address?
Jan 10 04:34:46 <Magicman> ehm... if it's in your profile I could get it
Jan 10 04:35:26 --- SimonK|PQing is now known as SimonK
Jan 10 04:36:11 <SimonK> Hmmm... my nick will change soon
Jan 10 04:36:27 <SimonK> So... Figured it out...
Jan 10 04:36:46 <megiddo> what was the fix?
Jan 10 04:36:54 <megiddo> (how to change nick?)
Jan 10 04:37:04 <SimonK> Also found another thing which I can't remember if it was intentional, but if you keep beating up on the sick guy in the end world, his bloody body starts to attack you
Jan 10 04:37:18 <SimonK> Looks kinda weird and like the attacking save machine in FIAT
Jan 10 04:37:20 <megiddo> lol - awesome
Jan 10 04:37:41 <SimonK> But I tell ya, gotta love the Deus Strike Magic woo hoo!
Jan 10 04:38:32 <megiddo> this link from SK: http://www.texturemaker.com - check it
Jan 10 04:38:38 <megiddo> looks killer - i want it
Jan 10 04:38:59 <SimonK> I've nearly finished downloading it... dial-up to the rescue!
Jan 10 04:39:28 <SimonK> yeah... This one I'll spend the 30 day trial really using... seamless textures here we come
Jan 10 04:40:25 <megiddo> what's worse than dial-up?
Jan 10 04:40:38 <SimonK> chaning nick is just /nick [new nick]
Jan 10 04:40:49 <megiddo> is dial up fast in Aus?
Jan 10 04:40:59 <SimonK> Ah... not much... having your testicles nailed to a chair... but that's about it
Jan 10 04:41:08 <megiddo> LOL! OMG
Jan 10 04:41:21 <megiddo> don't think I want to hear THAT story (cringe)
Jan 10 04:41:34 <SimonK> That was in a movie
Jan 10 04:41:46 <SimonK> Can't remember the name
Jan 10 04:42:14 <SimonK> Horrific scene, in Hiati, voodoo/head of secret police does it to some white guy
Jan 10 04:42:21 <megiddo> there's a friggin' scripting language in Texture Maker for crying out loud!
Jan 10 04:42:36 <SimonK> Just before the nail is used the White Guy asks what the hell the Head of Secret Police wants
Jan 10 04:42:41 <megiddo> oh i know that one...Serpent and the Rainbow
Jan 10 04:42:43 <SimonK> "To hear you scream"
Jan 10 04:42:49 <SimonK> yep that's the one
Jan 10 04:43:39 <megiddo> test
Jan 10 04:43:42 <megiddo> hmm
Jan 10 04:44:31 <megiddo> anyone try gettin' rid of the 'crunchiness factor' of Dink tiles?
Jan 10 04:44:44 <DN-Phoenix> err. what?
Jan 10 04:44:45 <megiddo> i tried using blur but it fragged the seams
Jan 10 04:45:18 <megiddo> well, granted they are low-rez...but they are also high-contrast
Jan 10 04:45:48 <megiddo> i think they could have smoother color-transitions from one pixel to the next
Jan 10 04:45:57 <SimonK> You'd have to make a big texture using each one, change them, make them seamless againg etc... I'm guessing
Jan 10 04:46:06 <megiddo> crunchy...like too pixelated
Jan 10 04:46:24 <SimonK> It's 256 colours... so... pixels here we come
Jan 10 04:46:25 <megiddo> crunch pebbles
Jan 10 04:46:29 <megiddo> yeah
Jan 10 04:46:39 <SimonK> Crunchy Nut Cornflakes are good, though
Jan 10 04:46:40 <megiddo> cocoa puffs
Jan 10 04:46:52 <megiddo> totally
Jan 10 04:46:59 <megiddo> Honey Bunches of Oats is good as well
Jan 10 04:47:09 <Magicman> eh... megiddo
Jan 10 04:47:15 <SimonK> Vanilla Nutri-Grain... pale iron man food
Jan 10 04:47:20 <Magicman> you read the poll of a few month ago?
Jan 10 04:47:37 <Magicman> http://www.dinknetwork.com/poll.cgi?action=Results&PID=16
Jan 10 04:47:39 <Magicman> this one
Jan 10 04:48:23 <megiddo> reading
Jan 10 04:48:46 <megiddo> lol
Jan 10 04:48:50 <megiddo> nice
Jan 10 04:48:58 <Magicman> cool coincidence
Jan 10 04:49:04 <megiddo> synchonicty
Jan 10 04:49:09 <megiddo> yeah, totally
Jan 10 04:49:24 <SimonK> sinkingchocnicely
Jan 10 04:49:52 <megiddo> stankycrunchnastey
Jan 10 04:50:15 <megiddo> you guys are great. glad I stay up.
Jan 10 04:50:23 <Magicman> thanks
Jan 10 04:50:33 <megiddo> stayed...spelling is suffering though, doh!
Jan 10 04:50:34 <Magicman> how late is it in your time-zone
Jan 10 04:50:38 <Magicman> its 12:50 here
Jan 10 04:50:45 <megiddo> 5:50am
Jan 10 04:50:52 <SimonK> 10:50 pm here
Jan 10 04:50:59 <SimonK> I need a beer
Jan 10 04:51:11 --- Simeon|food is now known as Simeon
Jan 10 04:51:14 <Simeon> I'm back.
Jan 10 04:51:27 <megiddo> (pours SK a cold one)
Jan 10 04:51:38 <megiddo> (kicks back one for himself)
Jan 10 04:51:53 * SimonK ah... virtual beer [gulp] [gulp]
Jan 10 04:52:13 <Magicman> two beer, or not two beer... that's the question
Jan 10 04:52:50 <megiddo> truly
Jan 10 04:52:57 <SimonK> Never a question...
Jan 10 04:53:20 <Magicman> Always two beer!!
Jan 10 04:53:54 <megiddo> 99 bottles of beer on the wall...99 bottles of beer!
Jan 10 04:54:20 <SimonK> I just put 34 bottles of beer on a wall
Jan 10 04:54:27 <megiddo> (looks around nervously waiting for someone to punch him...)
Jan 10 04:54:28 <SimonK> well a shelf really
Jan 10 04:54:36 <SimonK> and that was 3 hours ago
Jan 10 04:54:38 <megiddo> empty?
Jan 10 04:54:42 <megiddo> or full?
Jan 10 04:54:51 <SimonK> Now, to wait 2 weeks for it to brew
Jan 10 04:55:05 <SimonK> dum de dum...
Jan 10 04:56:02 <megiddo> ahhh. nice. home brew
Jan 10 04:56:13 <SimonK> Yeap
Jan 10 04:56:27 <megiddo> friend of mine made a really cool pumpkin beer...sounded gross, tasted great
Jan 10 04:56:48 <Magicman> Reminds me of this limerick in a Monty-Python game
Jan 10 04:56:52 <Magicman> There once was a Sheila from Sydney,
Jan 10 04:56:53 <Magicman> Who was missing ten teeth and a kidney,
Jan 10 04:56:53 <Magicman> But her Bruce found her dear,
Jan 10 04:56:53 <Magicman> `Cause she brewed her own beer,
Jan 10 04:56:53 <Magicman> He made out fair dinkum now didn't he?
Jan 10 04:57:26 <SimonK> Oh yeah baby
Jan 10 04:57:53 <SimonK> A lack of teeth can be considered an asset in such a relationship
Jan 10 04:58:20 <Magicman> ghehe
Jan 10 04:58:25 <Magicman> I'm gonna eat something
Jan 10 04:58:28 <SimonK> Pumpkin beer... that'd be interesting...
Jan 10 04:58:35 --- Magicman is now known as Magicman|eating
Jan 10 04:59:11 <megiddo> yeah, the pumpkin flavor wasn't terribly strong or anything...subtle
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Jan 10 04:59:53 <DukieE> yeah
Jan 10 05:00:00 <DukieE> Howdy folks
Jan 10 05:00:04 <SimonK> My next batch is a stout... after that I'm going to tray adding stuff like ginger... see what happens
Jan 10 05:00:05 <DN-Phoenix> ydwoh
Jan 10 05:00:18 <SimonK> Hey... light up da man!
Jan 10 05:00:42 <Simeon> hey Dukie
Jan 10 05:00:54 <megiddo> whaddup
Jan 10 05:00:55 <DukieE> light up da man?
Jan 10 05:01:17 <SimonK> You're one smoking dude, right
Jan 10 05:01:45 <DN-Phoenix> I wish some textures came with a good bump-map.
Jan 10 05:01:48 <SimonK> Even if you never sent me those answers to the questions....
Jan 10 05:01:54 <DukieE> Yeah
Jan 10 05:02:00 <DukieE> I feel bad about that
Jan 10 05:02:10 <DukieE> But I'm still gonna send them!
Jan 10 05:02:16 <megiddo> what prog Phoenix?
Jan 10 05:02:18 <SimonK> I had you light up in the TMOD, it got a laugh with Dan and few others
Jan 10 05:02:22 <DukieE>
Jan 10 05:02:27 <DN-Phoenix> I use Bryce.
Jan 10 05:02:29 <DukieE> oh that
Jan 10 05:03:31 <megiddo> you tried saving a copy and hard-tweaking the brightness contrast?
Jan 10 05:03:39 <megiddo> that can suffice sometimes
Jan 10 05:04:13 <megiddo> http://www.texturemaker.com/gallery.htm
Jan 10 05:04:21 <DN-Phoenix> I'm not much experienced in this.. I was just looking at this: http://www.texturemaker.com/smp/Nature/Field_Soil.htm <- and if you look at the background, it looks great, but look at the preview up in the left corner..
Jan 10 05:04:25 <DN-Phoenix> it looks all flat.
Jan 10 05:04:35 <megiddo> what kind of prices are offered for the DOTM and such?
Jan 10 05:04:51 <SimonK> It's free
Jan 10 05:04:53 <Simeon> If you win the DOTM, you get an award icon on the File Page and in the list of files.
Jan 10 05:04:56 <SimonK>
Jan 10 05:05:26 <DukieE> You also get a revered status in the community
Jan 10 05:05:33 <DukieE> That's what it's all about
Jan 10 05:05:40 <megiddo> oh. read something from redink1 about saving money on hosting to put towards prizes
Jan 10 05:05:49 <megiddo> doh! i said prices
Jan 10 05:06:04 <SimonK>
Jan 10 05:06:05 <Simeon> Yeah, that's about contests, like the current Weird D-Mod one.
Jan 10 05:06:16 <megiddo> i c
Jan 10 05:06:35 <megiddo> just curious, this TM prog would be a killer prize if there was a budget for it.
Jan 10 05:06:59 <megiddo> Phoenix, that texture doesn't appear to have a bump map applied to it.
Jan 10 05:07:11 <megiddo> it's just a high rex image
Jan 10 05:07:18 <SimonK> Yeah... I was just about to say that
Jan 10 05:07:25 <megiddo> rez...
Jan 10 05:07:50 <SimonK> Need a image editing prog for dat
Jan 10 05:08:07 <megiddo> in 3dsMax you can distort a mesh with a map (amybe other's too i dunno) which is really neat
Jan 10 05:08:32 <megiddo> SK - right
Jan 10 05:09:17 <SimonK> Yes... that's the one thing Blender doesn't do well... mesh distortion via image bump map
Jan 10 05:09:18 <megiddo> personally, i'm not fond of photo-realistic textures. hard to pull off well
Jan 10 05:09:32 <SimonK> At least not in terms of casting correct shadows
Jan 10 05:09:54 <megiddo> can't you get it how you want and then, well 'cook' it?
Jan 10 05:10:05 <megiddo> so that it's no longer editable...might work then
Jan 10 05:10:20 --- Magicman|eating is now known as Magicman
Jan 10 05:10:54 <megiddo> i know in max, alot of those fancy methods remain procedures until you collapse the modifier stack
Jan 10 05:11:17 <megiddo> i don't know blender though.
Jan 10 05:11:25 <SimonK> I'm not sure... haven't found a way yet... I got it to deform the texture on the mesh so it looks like the mesh is deformed to the shape I'm after, but the shadow is still undeformed
Jan 10 05:11:35 <SimonK> Haven't come back to it for a while
Jan 10 05:11:49 <SimonK> Can't afford Max or Maya
Jan 10 05:12:13 <SimonK> Of course, Blender suits my budget right down to the ground... "I want to be free"
Jan 10 05:12:19 <megiddo> i can't either. it's a friend's prog.
Jan 10 05:12:40 <megiddo> i don't use it to make $$$ so I consider it 'educational' version
Jan 10 05:13:04 <DukieE> hehe
Jan 10 05:13:27 <SimonK> Hmmm... but do the makers of the proggie consider you a student they have given a grant to?
Jan 10 05:14:04 <megiddo> o.k. - let's not talk software ethics. i'm too tired
Jan 10 05:14:20 <SimonK> ok...
Jan 10 05:14:24 <megiddo> but I hear you.
Jan 10 05:14:58 <SimonK> I ain't that serious about it... more interested in playing with the words and the concept than the politics of the thing
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Jan 10 05:15:38 <megiddo> can be argued both ways
Jan 10 05:15:48 <SimonK> Words, double meanings... riddles... entendres (sp?) - all amuse me
Jan 10 05:16:15 <Simeon> Hehe.
Jan 10 05:16:20 <Magicman> So I noticed
Jan 10 05:17:23 <DukieE> Attempt to evaluate the actual power of brands by making Austrian people draw a total of twelve logos (nine international, three typically European) from memory, 25 people per brand: http://www.monochrom.at/markenzeichnen/index-eng.htm
Jan 10 05:17:31 <DukieE> Ummm
Jan 10 05:17:39 <DukieE> It's interesting
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Jan 10 05:20:40 <SimonK> okaie smokie... I'm off for some shut eye
Jan 10 05:20:57 <DukieE> hehe
Jan 10 05:20:58 <SimonK> say hi to the swordfish if he turns up
Jan 10 05:21:04 <DukieE> The questions are on the way!
Jan 10 05:21:05 <megiddo> have good shuteye
Jan 10 05:21:09 <DukieE> I loved the T-mod btw
Jan 10 05:21:13 <SimonK> Some one should do a fish dance with him
Jan 10 05:21:18 <SimonK> thanks!
Jan 10 05:21:27 <SimonK> ciao bella
Jan 10 05:21:28 <Simeon> see ya
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Jan 10 05:21:34 <megiddo> peace
Jan 10 05:21:46 <DukieE> I'm out of here too
Jan 10 05:21:50 <megiddo> i'm out too fellas. it's 6:22am and I've not gone to bed yet.
Jan 10 05:21:53 <DukieE>
Jan 10 05:21:56 <megiddo> glad I could catch you all though
Jan 10 05:22:07 <megiddo> see ya on the flipside
Jan 10 05:22:10 <DukieE> hehe
Jan 10 05:22:14 <Simeon> Ok, see ya
Jan 10 05:22:14 <DukieE> good nizzle!
Jan 10 05:22:22 <megiddo> fo shizzle
Jan 10 05:22:26 <DukieE> =)
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Jan 10 05:22:41 <DukieE> Yeah
Jan 10 05:22:55 <DukieE> nu kunnen we nederlands praten
Jan 10 05:23:00 <Simeon> Yay, gezellig
Jan 10 05:23:06 <Magicman> fijn
Jan 10 05:23:09 <Magicman> op Phoenix na
Jan 10 05:23:14 <DukieE>
Jan 10 05:23:20 <Simeon> en Merlin, maar die is toch aan het loggen
Jan 10 05:23:37 <DukieE> maja, ik was ook weg
Jan 10 05:23:44 <DukieE> Tot de volgende keer dus
Jan 10 05:23:54 <Simeon> Awh, see ya
Jan 10 05:24:00 <DukieE> aaaaaaaight!
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Jan 10 05:24:37 <Magicman> okee, iedereen gaat er vandoor
Jan 10 05:24:57 <Simeon> en jij?
Jan 10 05:25:03 <Magicman> ik blijf nog wel ff
Jan 10 05:25:16 <Simeon> ah, ik ook
Jan 10 05:25:52 <Magicman> doe jij nog iets aan de weird contest?
Jan 10 05:26:28 <Simeon> nou, ik heb eigenlijk geen ideeën voor een Weird D-Mod dus ik denk niet dat ik iets ga inleveren :-/
Jan 10 05:26:43 <Simeon> en jij?
Jan 10 05:26:47 <Magicman> ik had wel iets...
Jan 10 05:26:54 <Magicman> een soort mario-party
Jan 10 05:27:28 <Simeon> maar daar ben je niet mee verder gegaan? Aangezien je "had" zei..
Jan 10 05:27:34 <Magicman> idd
Jan 10 05:27:41 <Magicman> was er in de kerstvakantie aan begonnen
Jan 10 05:27:58 <Magicman> maar het was vreselijk saai werk, en ik had geen zin om een nieuwe map te maken
Jan 10 05:28:20 <Simeon> ah, I see.
Jan 10 05:28:55 <DN-Phoenix> ooh boy.. Just saw a capoiera show on TV just now.. THAT is awesome.
Jan 10 05:28:56 <Simeon> tzal mij benieuwen wat de resultaten van de contest worden - ik heb nog niet echt iets gehoord van iemand die wel iets heeft..
Jan 10 05:30:25 <Magicman> ik ook niet, maar het kreeg meer reacties dan die met de Evil Hero
Jan 10 05:30:42 <Magicman> Beginning of Evil v2.0 coming soon btw
Jan 10 05:31:17 <Simeon> Yeah, besides the contest, I do have some ideas for D-Mods, including one nice part of a D-Mod already done
Jan 10 05:38:05 <Magicman> ooh, ooh, tell, tell
Jan 10 05:38:32 <Simeon> Ehm, well let's just say its
Jan 10 05:38:46 <Simeon> it's an interesting story
Jan 10 05:39:02 <Simeon> And I won't reveal the other idea
Jan 10 05:39:13 <Simeon> Though I haven't really revealed anything...
Jan 10 05:39:27 <Magicman> not really, but you made me curious
Jan 10 05:40:07 <Simeon> Hehe, I guess it'll probably take some time until it gets released as I haven't figured the ending of the D-Mod yet..
Jan 10 05:40:35 <Magicman> can you imagine... I'm working on 3 DMods now
Jan 10 05:40:43 <Simeon> Hehe
Jan 10 05:40:58 <Simeon> And BOE2 is the first of those to get released?
Jan 10 05:41:04 <Magicman> I guess so
Jan 10 05:41:14 <Magicman> If I find time
Jan 10 05:41:32 <Magicman> exam week coming soon
Jan 10 05:41:51 <Magicman> second is New War Chronicle Dink Smallwood
Jan 10 05:42:16 <Magicman> it's some school project of one of my friends
Jan 10 05:42:26 <Simeon> Hmm, you have the exam week some time after the Xmas holidays...
Jan 10 05:42:29 <Simeon> Ah, I see.
Jan 10 05:44:02 <Magicman> yes, not next week, but the week after
Jan 10 05:44:17 <Simeon> Hmm, ok.
Jan 10 05:44:42 <Magicman> and you?
Jan 10 05:46:05 <Simeon> well
Jan 10 05:46:48 <Magicman> ??? I lost track of the conversation
Jan 10 05:46:51 <Magicman> I guess
Jan 10 05:46:52 <Simeon> I had a week of exams just before the Xmas holidays and now it's something like a month or so with normal schooldays, and then another week of exams (Tweede Fase, je weet toch)
Jan 10 05:47:43 <Magicman> Ah... what class are you in, by the way
Jan 10 05:47:51 <Magicman> 2e fase sucks
Jan 10 05:48:03 <Simeon> VWO5 + Latin so actually GYM5
Jan 10 05:48:22 <Simeon> And in what class are you?
Jan 10 05:48:34 <Magicman> I'm VWO 6, NT + Bio1,2 and Greek
Jan 10 05:48:46 <Magicman> NT = Natuur en Techniek
Jan 10 05:48:52 <Simeon> I know I know, I'm doing it myself
Jan 10 05:49:15 <Simeon> VWO5, NT + Computer Science + Latin
Jan 10 05:49:23 <Simeon> Informatica, for the Dutch people around
Jan 10 05:49:41 <Magicman> ghehe
Jan 10 05:50:02 <Magicman> Many of my classmates do that too
Jan 10 05:50:10 <Magicman> but then NG instead of NT
Jan 10 05:50:46 <Simeon> Heh. There are only something like 10 people who do NT this year.
Jan 10 05:51:26 <Magicman> Here too. Not a very popular profile, if that's the correct word for it
Jan 10 05:52:20 <Magicman> Greek is also very unpopular. In VWO 6 only 3 pupils
Jan 10 05:52:31 <Magicman> Latin... 20 or something
Jan 10 05:52:53 <Simeon> Hmm, it's somewhat the same here; 20 Latin and 20 Greek with 3, 4 who do both.
Jan 10 05:53:10 <Simeon> Wait, the numbers are a little less.
Jan 10 05:53:52 <Simeon> No, they're quite accurate actually (both groups are at least 15), heh.
Jan 10 05:54:07 <Magicman> wow... pretty large Greek group then
Jan 10 05:54:58 <Simeon> Yeah, it are pretty big classes actually - though I'm not that sure about the Greek class as I'm counting the people from memory but they're at least way more than 3.
Jan 10 05:55:49 <Simeon> And then KCV, a full classroom
Jan 10 05:56:19 <Magicman> Yes, I imagine. I don't have it anymore
Jan 10 05:56:32 <Magicman> I do Literature in English, and it sucks
Jan 10 05:56:53 <Magicman> Véry boring... at least not as boring as Dutch Literature
Jan 10 05:57:17 <Simeon> Ah, I see. Guess I'll see it myself when I have to read English books next year or so.
Jan 10 05:57:39 <Magicman> I got it too in the second half of the fifth
Jan 10 05:58:22 <Magicman> Chemistry 2 is new in the sixth
Jan 10 05:58:26 <Simeon> Hmm, I haven't heard my English teacher about it, though we are going to do Shakespeare some time this year.
Jan 10 05:58:40 <Simeon> Yeah, Chemistry 2 next year.
Jan 10 05:58:45 <Magicman> better than the dutch Mulish crap anyway
Jan 10 05:59:08 <DN-Phoenix> okay, I'm going now.. I'm gonna do reinstallation.
Jan 10 05:59:11 <Simeon> Yeah, that's good to hear
Jan 10 05:59:13 <Simeon> Ok, see ya
Jan 10 05:59:19 <Magicman> CU
Jan 10 05:59:27 <Simeon> mzzl
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Jan 10 05:59:56 <Magicman> we kunnen weer Nederlands kleppen
Jan 10 06:00:08 <Simeon> yep, gewoon lekker verder
Jan 10 06:00:12 <Simeon> tot ie terugkomt
Jan 10 06:00:25 <Magicman> ennehh.. m'n ouders vieren vandaag hun verjaardag, dus ik zal héél vaak niet reageren
Jan 10 06:00:29 <Magicman> ik moet socializen
Jan 10 06:00:44 <Simeon> toeval toeval toeval
Jan 10 06:00:49 <Simeon> mijn vader is vandaag jarig
Jan 10 06:00:56 <Magicman> gefeliciteerd!
Jan 10 06:01:03 <Simeon> jij ook gefeliciteerd!
Jan 10 06:01:08 <Magicman> m'n moeder afgelopen woensdag
Jan 10 06:01:20 <Magicman> en m'n vader een woensdag precies een maand geleden
Jan 10 06:01:28 <Magicman> 7 dec en 7 jan
Jan 10 06:01:43 <Simeon> Heh, m'n vader dus vandaag, 10 jan.
Jan 10 06:02:12 <Magicman> doe jij ook nog iets aan een meerdaagse excursie?
Jan 10 06:02:18 <Magicman> ik ging vorig jaar naar Rome
Jan 10 06:02:35 <Simeon> Ik ook Op 3 oct gingen we weg, tot de 10e
Jan 10 06:02:50 <Magicman> Cool,
Jan 10 06:03:01 <Magicman> ben daar wel de boutste engelse text tegengekomen EVER
Jan 10 06:03:08 <Simeon> Ohja, welke dan?
Jan 10 06:03:22 <Magicman> ff opzoeken
Jan 10 06:03:40 <Magicman> Ik pleur dit soort aardigheedjes altijd in m'n DMods
Jan 10 06:03:49 <Simeon> Hehe
Jan 10 06:04:25 <Magicman> 'Food end tekawai'
Jan 10 06:04:41 <Simeon> Ehh, geweldig Engels
Jan 10 06:04:54 <Magicman> naast 'hotel California'
Jan 10 06:05:11 <Magicman> lekkere pizza, dat wel
Jan 10 06:05:32 <Simeon> Yep, Rome heeft best wel lekker eten, 't hangt er maar net vanaf waar je 't haalt.
Jan 10 06:05:33 <Magicman> dang... bezoek
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Jan 10 06:05:49 <Magicman|socializing>
Jan 10 06:05:57 <Simeon> Heh, have fun
Jan 10 06:06:00 <Magicman|socializing> Ristorante Alessio hadden wij...
Jan 10 06:06:02 <Magicman|socializing> bedankt
Jan 10 06:06:09 <Magicman|socializing> ik zie wel wie er is als ik terug kom
Jan 10 06:06:17 <Simeon> Geen idee hoe dat restaurant van ons heette, naja
Jan 10 06:07:11 <Magicman|socializing> hotel dei mille
Jan 10 06:07:55 <Simeon> Yay, ook de naam van 't hotel zou 'k zo niet weten - moet dat er verslag er maar eens bijpakken als 'k iets wil weten
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Jan 10 06:22:47 <Magicman> zozo... ben er weer
Jan 10 06:22:54 <Simeon> kzie het
Jan 10 06:24:30 <Magicman> denk dat iemand m'n internet verbinding aan't verkrachten was
Jan 10 06:24:37 <Magicman> MSN viel ook uit
Jan 10 06:24:41 <Magicman> en m'n browsers ook
Jan 10 06:25:07 <Simeon>
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Jan 10 00:22:34 <Invertigo> hello
Jan 10 00:22:42 <Invertigo> just visiting once again for no good reason
Jan 10 00:23:44 <Invertigo> hm
Jan 10 00:23:51 <Invertigo> and the room is empty once again
Jan 10 00:24:01 <Invertigo> or at least just temporarily dead
Jan 10 00:24:51 <Invertigo> well, i have a message for the dead
Jan 10 00:24:57 <Invertigo> "g00dbye
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Jan 10 01:59:02 <Magicman> Hello...
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Jan 10 02:06:11 <SimonK> hi de ho
Jan 10 02:06:51 <Magicman> Hello
Jan 10 02:07:02 <SimonK> Hmmm... big chat
Jan 10 02:07:42 <Magicman> not really...
Jan 10 02:08:50 <SimonK> Ah the beauty of sarcasm falls into the abyss of the ether(net)
Jan 10 02:09:43 <Magicman> Sabre probably won't show up, as usual...
Jan 10 02:10:09 <Magicman> problems with his CPU or something
Jan 10 02:10:14 <SimonK> Hmmm... oh well
Jan 10 02:11:55 <SimonK> Was there an agenda or topic for this chat?
Jan 10 02:12:13 <Magicman> Well...
Jan 10 02:12:15 <Magicman> I hope lot's of people attend, and subjects will include...
Jan 10 02:12:15 <Magicman> The Contest!
Jan 10 02:12:15 <Magicman> New Years Resolutions!
Jan 10 02:12:15 <Magicman> And just why I should be given a Nobel Prize!
Jan 10 02:12:22 <Magicman> this is what Sabre posted
Jan 10 02:13:01 <SimonK> Your or sabre for the nobel prize?
Jan 10 02:13:09 <SimonK> *you I meant
Jan 10 02:13:21 <Magicman> Sabre
Jan 10 02:13:32 <Magicman> but I won't mind talking about me
Jan 10 02:13:33 <Magicman>
Jan 10 02:13:56 <SimonK> More likely Noobie Prize
Jan 10 02:14:08 <SimonK> Okay, let's talk Magicman
Jan 10 02:14:12 <SimonK> So... what's up
Jan 10 02:14:26 <Magicman> Nothing special
Jan 10 02:14:33 <Magicman> just that I got early to bed yesterday
Jan 10 02:14:41 <Magicman> just so I didn't sleep over the chat
Jan 10 02:14:56 <SimonK> What time is it where you are?
Jan 10 02:15:05 <Magicman> 10:15 AM at the momen
Jan 10 02:15:09 <Magicman> t
Jan 10 02:15:43 <Magicman> I usually sleep until 12:00 on saturdays
Jan 10 02:15:47 <SimonK> Hmmm, so why would you fall asleep, and which part of Europe are you in - somewhere around the same latitude as Oslo
Jan 10 02:16:01 <SimonK> Or is that longitude?
Jan 10 02:16:12 <Magicman> I live in Holland
Jan 10 02:16:19 <Magicman> and I guess it's longitude
Jan 10 02:16:23 <SimonK> Ah ha!
Jan 10 02:16:50 <SimonK> The Netherlands... home of many a Dinker
Jan 10 02:17:09 <Magicman> Too bad TheProphet left
Jan 10 02:17:26 <Magicman> he lived just 20 minutes of cycling from me
Jan 10 02:17:37 <Magicman> never met him, though
Jan 10 02:17:37 <SimonK> He's left... is that for certain
Jan 10 02:18:00 <SimonK> A scary thing to meet a Dinker in real life
Jan 10 02:18:27 <Magicman> No experience with that
Jan 10 02:18:41 <Magicman> Chris and me were discussing some Dutch Dink meeting on MSN
Jan 10 02:18:56 <SimonK> Me neither... not too many Dinkers in Australia, let alone Sydney
Jan 10 02:19:20 <Magicman> but it were only some wild ideas
Jan 10 02:19:53 <SimonK> Chris... as in Christian
Jan 10 02:20:22 <Magicman> Yes, that one
Jan 10 02:20:36 <Magicman> strange guy
Jan 10 02:20:45 <Magicman> but really cool... on MSN anyway
Jan 10 02:21:24 <SimonK> Yes.. he's making a big DMOD I think
Jan 10 02:21:40 <Magicman> True
Jan 10 02:21:45 <Magicman> I work with him on that one
Jan 10 02:22:00 <Magicman> So do you, al far as I've heard
Jan 10 02:22:29 <SimonK> I did a graphic for a save machine, but he didn't want it... so I released it to the network.
Jan 10 02:22:38 <SimonK> I think that's about all he's asked me to do
Jan 10 02:22:58 <SimonK> Joshriot has asked for a windmill, and I still have to redo the one I sent him
Jan 10 02:23:08 <SimonK> But I'm been kinda lazy
Jan 10 02:23:26 <Magicman> I guess all Dinkers are
Jan 10 02:24:33 <Magicman> It took me two months to write three scripts
Jan 10 02:24:52 <SimonK> Yeah... I'm more interested in Blender at the moment, and it's game engine
Jan 10 02:25:16 <Magicman> Yes, it's an interesting program
Jan 10 02:25:41 <Magicman> It's very complex, right?
Jan 10 02:25:45 <Magicman> never really used it
Jan 10 02:26:04 <SimonK> Yeah it can be pretty complex. Just depends on what you're trying to do.
Jan 10 02:26:27 <SimonK> I'm trying to figure out how to get the game engine to work, and I haven't got a manual for it...
Jan 10 02:26:44 <SimonK> So it's a case of look for tutorials on the net and trial and error.
Jan 10 02:26:50 <SimonK> I need lots of trial and error
Jan 10 02:26:59 <Magicman> There are many samples included with balls that move over some surface
Jan 10 02:27:09 <Magicman> at least, they were included in my version
Jan 10 02:27:59 <SimonK> Yeah... I can get a ball thing moving, but I want the camera to move with it, and then have a key which let's you change to first person shooter mode, all of which can be done
Jan 10 02:28:08 <SimonK> I just gotta figure out Python and stuff
Jan 10 02:29:03 <Magicman> never heard of Python before I started Blender
Jan 10 02:29:23 <Magicman> or it must be Monty Python... but that's something completely different
Jan 10 02:29:27 <SimonK> Me neither... haven't really done much yet
Jan 10 02:29:55 <SimonK> My only program language/scripting stuff is some java, some Basic (many, many years ago) and DinkC
Jan 10 02:30:01 <SimonK> Hahahaha
Jan 10 02:30:20 <Magicman> That's about all I know too
Jan 10 02:30:30 <Magicman> well, I can do some HTML, QBasic and DinkC
Jan 10 02:30:38 <Magicman> and a tiny little bit of JavaScript
Jan 10 02:31:07 <SimonK> Hmmm, yes some html I know... but not much... I stopped trying to learn it when style sheets came in
Jan 10 02:33:14 <Magicman> style sheets are usefull, and it sounds more difficult than it is really
Jan 10 02:33:22 <DN-Phoenix> *yawn*
Jan 10 02:33:37 <Magicman> just like adding graphics to Dink, you have to try it
Jan 10 02:33:43 <Magicman> Oh, good morning, Phoenix
Jan 10 02:33:51 <SimonK> yeah I guess so
Jan 10 02:33:51 <DN-Phoenix> He-lo.
Jan 10 02:33:56 <Magicman> Had a nice sleep?
Jan 10 02:34:04 <DN-Phoenix> I guess so.
Jan 10 02:35:24 <SimonK> So Phoenix, how's EasyDinkC 2 coming along...
Jan 10 02:35:41 <DN-Phoenix> it's on a standstill atm.. I'm.. bored with mostly anything.
Jan 10 02:36:05 <SimonK> bummer, it was looking good on those screenshots
Jan 10 02:36:18 <DN-Phoenix> it's working well so far too..
Jan 10 02:36:28 <DN-Phoenix> but I uh.. don't feel like working on it.
Jan 10 02:36:42 <SimonK> So how much more is there to do
Jan 10 02:36:55 <DN-Phoenix> Quite a lot.
Jan 10 02:37:06 <SimonK> double bummmer
Jan 10 02:37:16 <Magicman> Like what?
Jan 10 02:37:39 <DN-Phoenix> like adding all the things that makes it "easy"
Jan 10 02:38:11 <Magicman> Submit it as "DifficultDinkC" then
Jan 10 02:38:20 <DN-Phoenix> heh.
Jan 10 02:38:32 <SimonK> Or as an alpha release...
Jan 10 02:38:50 <SimonK> and then get bugged by all the people emailing you asking for changes, updates, requests
Jan 10 02:38:59 <SimonK> :-\
Jan 10 02:39:03 <Magicman> people like me
Jan 10 02:39:06 <DN-Phoenix> well, you can't save yet, and it cannot detect if you've changed the document..
Jan 10 02:39:29 <Magicman> Oy, that would be Uber-DifficultDinkC
Jan 10 02:39:41 <Magicman> Copy every script to Notepad before saving it
Jan 10 02:41:10 <Magicman> This chat is going on slow. 40 minutes already, and only we three talking
Jan 10 02:41:13 <DN-Phoenix> anyway, you guys are in luck, I just felt like working a little on it.
Jan 10 02:41:19 <Magicman> WOOOHOOO
Jan 10 02:41:55 <SimonK> yeah baby
Jan 10 02:42:10 <SimonK> Me... I just read the thing about purple bananas on the DN
Jan 10 02:42:33 <SimonK> I might just make some as a new enemie... that casts... banana smoothies as a weapon
Jan 10 02:42:38 <SimonK> *enemy
Jan 10 02:43:27 <SimonK> Or a Bouncing Banana in a blender that casts purple banana missiles...
Jan 10 02:43:31 <SimonK> But I'm rambling here
Jan 10 02:44:19 <Magicman> You know the puke-graphics from Mystery Island?
Jan 10 02:44:35 <DN-Phoenix> I'm kinda sad about the DinkC++ and the new Dink engine though. I feel like my work is just a waste.
Jan 10 02:45:10 <Magicman> I feel DinkC++ is getting more difficult than DinkC
Jan 10 02:45:25 <Magicman> so the newbies will have a harder time making a DMod
Jan 10 02:46:37 <SimonK> Hmmm, what's the status of all that
Jan 10 02:46:53 <DN-Phoenix> It'll be more like this: (for a choice menu for instance
Jan 10 02:46:53 <DN-Phoenix> Choice.Title="wahaha"
Jan 10 02:46:53 <DN-Phoenix> Choice.Color="Wahahaa"
Jan 10 02:46:53 <DN-Phoenix> Choice.Y=23
Jan 10 02:46:53 <DN-Phoenix> Choice.Show
Jan 10 02:46:56 <DN-Phoenix> or something
Jan 10 02:47:28 <SimonK> I see
Jan 10 02:47:37 <DN-Phoenix> at least that's what I think of when I think of an OOP oriented language.
Jan 10 02:47:45 <DN-Phoenix> they may have something more difficult in mind.
Jan 10 02:47:59 <SimonK> Well the community will decide it's popularity I guess
Jan 10 02:48:18 <Magicman> Experienced programmers would just think it rules
Jan 10 02:48:27 <Magicman> but the new people...
Jan 10 02:48:28 <DN-Phoenix> I never saw what was wrong with the original dink in the first place.. if they could just fix that up, then it would be good.
Jan 10 02:48:45 <DN-Phoenix> add a few features and such, to make it more up to date.
Jan 10 02:49:12 <SimonK> Dan added a couple for his redink.exe which were good
Jan 10 02:49:43 <SimonK> screenlock bug fix, animating tiles fixed, changing palettes on the fly and the palette bmps no longer have to be 640 by 400
Jan 10 02:52:00 <SimonK> plus a couple of extra math funtions
Jan 10 02:52:25 <SimonK> Butterscotch snapps and coffee is an interesting mix
Jan 10 02:53:02 <Magicman> And that has to do anything with redink.exe?
Jan 10 02:53:18 <Magicman>
Jan 10 02:53:19 <SimonK> No that was the request he did add
Jan 10 02:53:24 <SimonK> *didn't
Jan 10 02:57:07 <Magicman> You know what I re-discovered last week?
Jan 10 02:57:23 <SimonK> gravity
Jan 10 02:57:32 <Magicman> Oh, that one too...
Jan 10 02:57:38 <Magicman> but I meant DOOM
Jan 10 02:57:55 <SimonK> oh yeah... i used to love that game
Jan 10 02:58:02 <Magicman> It's the first retro-game that made me an addict since Dink
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Jan 10 02:58:51 <SimonK> That was one of the second game I made a mod for... first was Wolfenstien
Jan 10 03:00:00 <Magicman> Ah, you too have something in your mind that says: "Hmm, game with mod-support... Must... make... mod... must"
Jan 10 03:00:09 <Magicman> well... I have, anyway
Jan 10 03:02:41 <SimonK> Well Wolfenstien was the first "first person shooter"... and it had an editor... and it had zombies... yeah hah!
Jan 10 03:02:51 <SimonK> Doom for me was the ultimate
Jan 10 03:03:05 <SimonK> I used to deathmatch on BBS in sydney and at work
Jan 10 03:04:29 <Magicman> I still like it
Jan 10 03:04:32 <Magicman> the simplicity
Jan 10 03:04:52 <Magicman> the ambience
Jan 10 03:05:52 <SimonK> Yeah... I interested in seeing what DOOM 3 is like, but it seems to take forever to get released
Jan 10 03:07:14 <Magicman> It might get the "Daikatana"-award
Jan 10 03:07:28 <SimonK> What's that?
Jan 10 03:07:53 <Magicman> Well, "Daikatana" was delayed very much
Jan 10 03:08:09 <Magicman> véry much
Jan 10 03:08:25 <Magicman> like Diablo II, and almost any Blizzard game
Jan 10 03:08:41 <Magicman> but Daikatana is the king of the delays
Jan 10 03:08:48 <SimonK> ah...
Jan 10 03:08:53 <SimonK> I might have guessed
Jan 10 03:08:59 <Magicman> At least, that's what I've heard
Jan 10 03:20:33 <SimonK> Hmmm, so i guess that was the chat
Jan 10 03:21:19 <Magicman> I expected more of it, though
Jan 10 03:21:35 <Magicman> More people to come
Jan 10 03:22:35 <SimonK> Hey, did the stats page get taken down?
Jan 10 03:22:40 <Magicman> yes...
Jan 10 03:22:49 <Magicman> a long time ago
Jan 10 03:23:09 <SimonK> any reason why
Jan 10 03:24:42 <Magicman> maybe there weren't enough visitors
Jan 10 03:24:51 <Magicman> or Phoenix was a bored as he is now
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Jan 10 03:27:48 <SimonK> here's a site for a RPG someone's doing in game blender... looks interesting.... http://project-blender.onlinehome.de/TQ-Pics/Twilight-Quest.html
Jan 10 03:27:57 <Magicman> hi megiddo!
Jan 10 03:27:59 <SimonK> hi there
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Jan 10 03:28:07 <megiddo> hey all
Jan 10 03:28:17 <megiddo> how's it?
Jan 10 03:28:21 <DN-Phoenix> the stats were taken down because I could not leave my PC on 24/7
Jan 10 03:28:32 <SimonK> ah...
Jan 10 03:28:39 <Magicman> that's a good reason
Jan 10 03:28:45 <SimonK> I thought you were just going to log when you were on
Jan 10 03:28:57 <DN-Phoenix> that would make the stats very biased.
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Jan 10 03:29:34 <DN-Phoenix> most americans were on around midnight to 4 in the morning (my time)
Jan 10 03:30:23 <SimonK> Ah well... too bad... I think it kinda keep a bit of life to the chat
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Jan 10 03:30:36 <SimonK> It was an interesting page to read other people's old quotes
Jan 10 03:30:49 <SimonK> A trivia thing
Jan 10 03:30:55 <megiddo> first time on this applet...fell off the face of the world for a second there
Jan 10 03:31:05 <megiddo> will try not to do it again
Jan 10 03:31:31 <SimonK> It happens... You could use mIRC or something else
Jan 10 03:31:42 <megiddo> i should yes...
Jan 10 03:31:54 <DN-Phoenix> the chat died out anyway... so I also took it down because of that. It boosted the.. popularity of the chat for a while, but humans are humans, and they're not eternally amused by one single thing.
Jan 10 03:32:07 <SimonK> So, you're a Flash man megiddo?
Jan 10 03:32:44 <SimonK> Phoenix: Hmmm... I'd still vote for it to come back
Jan 10 03:32:48 <megiddo> yeah
Jan 10 03:32:56 <megiddo> fun program
Jan 10 03:33:03 <SimonK> As a living kinda thing?
Jan 10 03:33:17 <SimonK> I had a play with Director the other week.
Jan 10 03:33:32 --- Magicman is now known as Magicman|drinking
Jan 10 03:33:35 <megiddo> yeah, touch and go...end of the year was tough
Jan 10 03:33:37 <SimonK> Did the tutorial on making things animated and have buttons, play a QT... etc
Jan 10 03:34:06 <megiddo> you know, apparently it's very similar...but I haven't messed with it much
Jan 10 03:34:23 <megiddo> y, you dig it?
Jan 10 03:34:29 <SimonK> It's what I've heard, my nephew had it on his computer
Jan 10 03:34:44 <SimonK> So I thought I'd see what I could do with it
Jan 10 03:34:58 <SimonK> But I only made a start.
Jan 10 03:35:02 <megiddo> Flash is an easier entry
Jan 10 03:35:05 <megiddo> and cheaper
Jan 10 03:35:13 <SimonK> Have to learn more about it's scripting language LINGO to judge properly I guess
Jan 10 03:35:27 <megiddo> Actionscript is actually starting to resemble a language
Jan 10 03:36:13 <SimonK> let alone explore its 3D options - not sure what they could do at all...
Jan 10 03:36:17 --- Magicman|drinking is now known as Magicman
Jan 10 03:36:40 <SimonK> I got caught up trying to write a fade down and fade up script for the animation of the sun setting and rising
Jan 10 03:37:00 <megiddo> yeah, Flash does not support 3d as such
Jan 10 03:37:14 <SimonK> Now if the new Dink Engine could play a shockwave plug-in or flash plug-in, would that be better than an avi cut scene, I wonder?
Jan 10 03:37:24 <megiddo> so if that's what you're wanting to do, Director
Jan 10 03:37:34 <megiddo> sure, smaller because it would be vector
Jan 10 03:37:37 <SimonK> I see...
Jan 10 03:37:45 <DN-Phoenix> would look nice resized too.
Jan 10 03:37:46 <DN-Phoenix>
Jan 10 03:37:54 <megiddo> zactly
Jan 10 03:37:57 <SimonK> If I come across Flash I might give it a whirl
Jan 10 03:38:07 <megiddo> it's around.
Jan 10 03:38:16 <DN-Phoenix> it's costy.
Jan 10 03:38:22 <megiddo> get the 30-day trial
Jan 10 03:38:32 <megiddo> all Macromedia appz typically have a 30 day
Jan 10 03:38:42 <megiddo> plenty of time to get a feel...
Jan 10 03:39:00 <SimonK> I came across a texture world program that looked good for creating seamless textures
Jan 10 03:39:14 <SimonK> In fact I might just go start downloading it, since I'm on dial-up
Jan 10 03:39:22 <megiddo> really? what's it called
Jan 10 03:39:33 <megiddo> was looking at some myself...
Jan 10 03:39:50 <SimonK> Hang on... I was at work when I found it... so I gotta jog a few brain cells here
Jan 10 03:40:14 <megiddo> been messing around with photoshop Filter > Other > Offset...
Jan 10 03:40:17 <megiddo> k
Jan 10 03:40:28 <SimonK> yeah... that's good for it
Jan 10 03:40:37 <SimonK> I use PSP and manually try the same thing
Jan 10 03:41:02 <DN-Phoenix> gtg, restarting.
Jan 10 03:41:02 <megiddo> right...by duping the image and placing it by hand?
Jan 10 03:41:19 <DN-Phoenix> I have trouble with the ntoskrnl.exe. eheheheh.. *sigh*
Jan 10 03:41:20 <SimonK> I can't remember the name, dang... and no history on this computer
Jan 10 03:41:34 <Magicman> Phoenix: CU in a while
Jan 10 03:41:45 <SimonK> cya later Phoenix
Jan 10 03:41:55 <megiddo> cu P
Jan 10 03:42:12 <-- DN-Phoenix has quit (Connection Closed)
Jan 10 03:42:22 <megiddo> been thinking alot about helping those without pro software make tiles and such
Jan 10 03:42:41 <SimonK> Okay... here's the link http://www.i-tex.de/
Jan 10 03:42:56 <megiddo> tonight (or this morning rather...it's nearly 5am) made an isogrid in Illustrator
Jan 10 03:42:59 <megiddo> k
Jan 10 03:43:12 <SimonK> Hey, you offer to do graphics... you'll get a quite a few people sticking their hands up
Jan 10 03:44:12 <megiddo> right...well I was thinking along the lines of an in-depth tut on isometrics and such
Jan 10 03:44:42 <megiddo> i know graphics...just not the Dink engine or dinkC....but intend to learn
Jan 10 03:45:05 <megiddo> but making graphics or a graphics pack is on my mind for sure
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Jan 10 03:45:50 <Simeon> Ah, still some people here
Jan 10 03:45:57 <SimonK|inDisguise> Ah the joys of dial up
Jan 10 03:45:59 <Magicman> They're only coming now
Jan 10 03:46:03 <Magicman> the people
Jan 10 03:46:16 <megiddo> yup. just gettin' going...
Jan 10 03:46:22 <Simeon> It was empty here around 10 then?
Jan 10 03:46:25 <Magicman> Yup
Jan 10 03:46:36 <Magicman> only Phoenix, SimonK and me
Jan 10 03:46:41 <SimonK|inDisguise> Just me and Magicman, and Phoenix off doing somthing
Jan 10 03:46:49 <Simeon> Ah, I see.
Jan 10 03:46:53 <Magicman> great... 2 SimonK's
Jan 10 03:46:55 <megiddo> crap...pardon me while I install mIRC - brb
Jan 10 03:47:07 <Magicman> sure
Jan 10 03:47:18 <SimonK|inDisguise> yep, the dead me, who will get booted soon... and the real me
Jan 10 03:47:55 <Magicman> And the rest of you, Smith?
Jan 10 03:47:56 <Magicman>
Jan 10 03:48:17 <SimonK|inDisguise> Smith? as in agent?
Jan 10 03:48:27 <Magicman> yup, that one
Jan 10 03:48:58 <SimonK|inDisguise> It's weird. I can't watch anything with Hugo Weaving in now without thinking of him as Agent Smith...
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Jan 10 03:49:07 <Magicman> Hey!
Jan 10 03:49:11 <SimonK|inDisguise> In LotR... even
Jan 10 03:49:12 <Simeon> aheya
Jan 10 03:49:19 <Magicman> yeah... Elrond
Jan 10 03:49:39 <SimonK|inDisguise> I saw RotK again last night
Jan 10 03:49:44 <-- SimonK has quit (Ping Timeout)
Jan 10 03:49:50 <DN-Phoenix> me = reinstalling system - today.
Jan 10 03:50:08 <DN-Phoenix> I think.
Jan 10 03:50:09 <DN-Phoenix>
Jan 10 03:50:18 <Magicman> hehe
Jan 10 03:50:22 --- SimonK|inDisguise is now known as SimonK
Jan 10 03:50:31 <Magicman> RotK was good
Jan 10 03:50:36 <Simeon> Indeed it was
Jan 10 03:50:38 <SimonK> At last I reveal my true self!
Jan 10 03:50:50 <Simeon> Welcome back, Mr. Anderson.
Jan 10 03:51:05 <SimonK> Yeah... but I've gotta go watch the TT again... as there were a couple things that didn't sit right for me
Jan 10 03:51:15 <SimonK> Yeah...
Jan 10 03:51:36 <SimonK> Him
Jan 10 03:51:42 <Magicman> I did a LotR marathon just before the holidy
Jan 10 03:51:49 <Magicman> day
Jan 10 03:52:20 <megiddo> darn
Jan 10 03:52:40 <megiddo> what do I do to connect via mIRC...sry
Jan 10 03:53:08 <megiddo> ah toast it...i'm missing all the fun. i'll do it later
Jan 10 03:53:14 <SimonK> okay I'm going to see about a problem someone has with PQ - be back later
Jan 10 03:53:18 <Magicman> About this: http://www.dinknetwork.com/chat_mirc.shtml
Jan 10 03:53:20 --- SimonK is now known as SimonK|PQing
Jan 10 03:54:58 <DN-Phoenix> and read the text, don't follow the pictures.
Jan 10 03:55:50 <Magicman> bill@gates.usa
Jan 10 03:55:58 <Magicman> ghehe... never saw it before
Jan 10 03:58:02 <DN-Phoenix> har har, yes. I made that up.
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Jan 10 03:58:58 <megiddo> alright then...mIRC
Jan 10 03:59:04 <Simeon> So, did Sabre actually make it to the chat?
Jan 10 03:59:09 <Magicman> no...
Jan 10 03:59:33 <Simeon> Heh.
Jan 10 03:59:41 <Magicman> We didn't talk about the Contest, New Years Resolutions, nor about why he should be given a nobel prize
Jan 10 03:59:55 <Magicman> well... maybe 2 lines were devoted to the last topic
Jan 10 04:00:02 <DN-Phoenix> he never shows up. I really hope you didn't expect him to.
Jan 10 04:00:25 <Magicman> The last time I saw him here was in his chat in the summer holiday
Jan 10 04:00:28 <DN-Phoenix> he's the only european who offered himself to be a chat staff guy (besides Kory)
Jan 10 04:00:31 <Simeon> Well, I wasn't there anyway - but I just saw the message on the board about his CPU dying so... heh.
Jan 10 04:00:34 <Magicman> the first 10 minutes
Jan 10 04:00:35 <SimonK|PQing> Too busy sticking a sabre up a trout
Jan 10 04:00:42 <megiddo> hahaha
Jan 10 04:00:57 <Magicman> Kory european too?
Jan 10 04:01:03 <DN-Phoenix> Croatian
Jan 10 04:01:11 <Simeon> Yep.
Jan 10 04:01:20 <Magicman> Didn't know that
Jan 10 04:01:40 <megiddo> anyone here near Texas and as crazy as I am for not having gone to bed yet?
Jan 10 04:02:00 <DN-Phoenix> I have 32 €.
Jan 10 04:02:02 <DN-Phoenix> yay.
Jan 10 04:02:03 <DN-Phoenix>
Jan 10 04:02:16 <DN-Phoenix> or was it 39 €?
Jan 10 04:02:20 <megiddo> Vampire by night, Zombie by day...
Jan 10 04:02:21 <DN-Phoenix> eh, doesn't matter.
Jan 10 04:02:42 <Magicman> I guess nobody near Texas
Jan 10 04:02:47 <Magicman> dunno where merlin lives though
Jan 10 04:02:49 <megiddo> right
Jan 10 04:03:20 <megiddo> redink1 is in Michigan right?
Jan 10 04:03:30 <megiddo> same, t-zone as TX
Jan 10 04:03:31 <SimonK|PQing> dang, windows explorer was NOT RESPONDING... bloody XP Pro
Jan 10 04:03:46 <DN-Phoenix> I have XP Pro.
Jan 10 04:03:54 <DN-Phoenix> It's r0xx0rz for me.
Jan 10 04:03:59 <megiddo> how is that. i'm on 2k pro still
Jan 10 04:04:01 <Magicman> It isn't XP Pro... I have the same thing with 98 SE
Jan 10 04:04:11 <Simeon> I have Home :-I
Jan 10 04:04:44 <DN-Phoenix> home suxx0rz.
Jan 10 04:05:15 <Simeon> :'-(
Jan 10 04:05:16 <Simeon>
Jan 10 04:05:16 <megiddo> so whilst I was messing with mIRC, I missed the RotK talk...LOVED IT
Jan 10 04:05:39 <megiddo> best one in my opinion...but maybe that's just b/c it was the last
Jan 10 04:06:09 <Magicman> When was the last time you saw the other ones?
Jan 10 04:06:30 <megiddo> well, saw TTT EE month b4 RotK
Jan 10 04:06:44 <megiddo> which also rocked. i dunno, i just love them all
Jan 10 04:07:24 <megiddo> love the extra footage in the extended eds
Jan 10 04:07:38 <Magicman> and in the special-extended
Jan 10 04:07:53 <megiddo> lol - right.
Jan 10 04:08:06 <Magicman> Everything on LotR just rules
Jan 10 04:08:13 <Magicman> well, almost everything
Jan 10 04:08:19 <Simeon> Hehe
Jan 10 04:08:26 <Magicman> Tom Bombadil had to be in the movies too
Jan 10 04:08:35 <megiddo> well Frodo and Sam never went to Osgiliath...but don't get me started
Jan 10 04:08:55 <Magicman> and the elves never were to defend Helm's Deep
Jan 10 04:08:58 <Magicman>
Jan 10 04:09:08 <megiddo> exactly
Jan 10 04:09:31 <Magicman> looked through the book THREE TIMES just to check if it really isn't in there
Jan 10 04:09:48 <megiddo> lol
Jan 10 04:09:48 <DN-Phoenix> I'm gonna do a weird re-installation this time...
Jan 10 04:10:02 <Magicman> Way to go Phoenix
Jan 10 04:10:14 <megiddo> thought that Shelob should have been the ending of TT like in the books.
Jan 10 04:10:19 <DN-Phoenix> I'm gonna partition my disk, and install DOS 6.22, Windows 3.11, Windows 98 SE, Windows XP and Windows .NET Server.. now howzaboutz that?
Jan 10 04:10:20 <megiddo> such a great cliffhanger!
Jan 10 04:10:31 <Magicman> you need Windows 1 too?
Jan 10 04:10:35 <Magicman> I have it somewhere
Jan 10 04:10:44 <DN-Phoenix> err... no thanks.
Jan 10 04:10:59 <DN-Phoenix> If I needed everything, I'd go for win95 and winME too.
Jan 10 04:11:04 <DN-Phoenix> I just need one of each sort.
Jan 10 04:11:06 <megiddo> wow you guys are a repository of out of date OS's
Jan 10 04:11:21 <Magicman> I have Windows 95 Diskette edition
Jan 10 04:11:28 <Magicman> 22 disks
Jan 10 04:11:35 <megiddo> pre-CD?
Jan 10 04:11:36 <megiddo> wow
Jan 10 04:11:51 <Magicman> I haven't got anything later than 98Se though
Jan 10 04:12:10 <Magicman> and windows BOB
Jan 10 04:12:40 <Simeon> I've got Windows 3.11, 98 and XP
Jan 10 04:13:30 <megiddo> used to have BeOS
Jan 10 04:13:39 <Magicman> Dos 1, anyone???
Jan 10 04:13:48 <Simeon> Ah, and DOS some version
Jan 10 04:13:50 <DN-Phoenix> I wish BeOS made it. I loved it.
Jan 10 04:13:57 <megiddo> and I didn't know until recently that NExt is what turned into OS X
Jan 10 04:14:16 <SimonK|PQing> Hmmm... found a bug in PQ... if you get Dink to step into the tornado and he gets sucked up and passes a big red heart... he starts dying and then comes back to life, but is frozen off screen
Jan 10 04:14:19 <megiddo> yeah, it was killer. Never really had it that long
Jan 10 04:14:25 <SimonK|PQing> Hmmm... never thought of that combination
Jan 10 04:14:55 <megiddo> spoilers! NO!
Jan 10 04:15:04 <megiddo> haven't finished SOB yet
Jan 10 04:15:16 <megiddo> jk
Jan 10 04:15:25 <DN-Phoenix> shame on thee, SimonKee.. err..
Jan 10 04:16:07 <megiddo> so SK, you have a Big Book O' Riddles lying around the house?
Jan 10 04:16:49 <megiddo> ...makes me think of Blain the Pain...anyone read the Dark Tower series by S. King?
Jan 10 04:17:32 <megiddo> would be a cool dmod. free standing doors on the beach that warp to other dimensions...there gave that one away...run with it.
Jan 10 04:18:45 <Magicman> A Myst DMod
Jan 10 04:18:49 <Magicman> would also be cool
Jan 10 04:19:11 <Simeon> Yeah.
Jan 10 04:19:36 <megiddo> has anyone done a: push the right combo of <rocks, vases etc> on floor switches...
Jan 10 04:19:42 <megiddo> to unlock something?
Jan 10 04:19:58 <megiddo> seems possible in Dink
Jan 10 04:20:24 <Magicman> Owyeah
Jan 10 04:20:30 <Magicman> In PQ...
Jan 10 04:20:37 <Magicman> you must align 3 stone heads
Jan 10 04:20:39 <Simeon> It has been done, if I remember.
Jan 10 04:20:43 <megiddo> nice
Jan 10 04:20:45 <Magicman> Dang... now I'm spoiling too
Jan 10 04:20:49 <megiddo> ha!
Jan 10 04:21:04 <megiddo> well, I asked. it's cool. (grumble grumble)
Jan 10 04:21:45 <Magicman> I guess Simeon here has scripted very script-complex puzzles
Jan 10 04:21:58 <Magicman> in WOD
Jan 10 04:22:06 <Magicman> I didn't play it, but what I heard
Jan 10 04:22:07 <Simeon> Yeah, there's at least one puzzle in my three D-Mods.
Jan 10 04:22:07 <megiddo> ok. how about this one: dang, Dink's bow drawing animation is slow. I'm thinking Legolas!
Jan 10 04:22:15 <megiddo> cool
Jan 10 04:22:22 <Simeon> I mean; at least one per D-Mod.
Jan 10 04:22:40 <megiddo> figured that
Jan 10 04:22:50 <Magicman> I'm thinking of even more complex things with the bow thing
Jan 10 04:22:55 <DN-Phoenix> I wonder if I can ever get a hold of Windows 3.11
Jan 10 04:23:01 <Magicman> here, here!!
Jan 10 04:23:05 <Simeon> A possibility exists that one of those puzzle will be used in a D&D game of a friend
Jan 10 04:23:09 <megiddo> me too...you shoot first
Jan 10 04:23:21 <megiddo> MM
Jan 10 04:23:21 <Magicman> Then, I guess it's 3.11
Jan 10 04:23:26 <Magicman> could be 3.10 too
Jan 10 04:23:55 <DN-Phoenix> eh, doesn't really matter.. the thing is that I used to own 3.11, but when Windows 32-bit came along, I used those disks for something else.
Jan 10 04:24:04 <megiddo> brb fellas
Jan 10 04:24:17 <DN-Phoenix> so I wouldn't see it as a crime to like.. download it from KaZaA or something, but it's kinda hard to find.
Jan 10 04:24:25 <Simeon> gotta eat, see ya'll later.
Jan 10 04:24:26 <megiddo> (hopes that everone here is a fella and has not offended a woman)
Jan 10 04:24:32 --- Simeon is now known as Simeon|food
Jan 10 04:24:35 <Magicman> I'm a fella
Jan 10 04:24:41 <Magicman> Simeon too, Phoenix too
Jan 10 04:24:42 <Magicman> ehm...
Jan 10 04:24:49 <Magicman> I guess everyone here is a fella
Jan 10 04:24:57 <megiddo> whew
Jan 10 04:25:07 <megiddo> k - now that it's settled - brb
Jan 10 04:25:44 <Magicman>
Jan 10 04:26:34 <Magicman> I could give you a copy of my version
Jan 10 04:26:46 <DN-Phoenix> mm.. sure. It'd be nice.
Jan 10 04:27:08 <Magicman> btw. It's Disk-version
Jan 10 04:27:15 <DN-Phoenix> is there anything else?
Jan 10 04:27:27 <DN-Phoenix> Did win3.11 ever come on CD?
Jan 10 04:27:35 <Magicman> I guess not...
Jan 10 04:27:38 <Magicman> not that I know
Jan 10 04:27:44 <DN-Phoenix> me neither.
Jan 10 04:27:47 <DN-Phoenix> I don't think so though.
Jan 10 04:27:54 <DN-Phoenix> I always had Disks..
Jan 10 04:28:48 <Magicman> it's 8 MB, should I mail it?
Jan 10 04:28:54 <Magicman> or what connection do you have?
Jan 10 04:29:05 <DN-Phoenix> don't you have any kind of IM?
Jan 10 04:29:12 <Magicman> MSN
Jan 10 04:29:14 <Magicman> only that
Jan 10 04:29:31 <DN-Phoenix> that should do, shouldn't it..
Jan 10 04:30:20 <Magicman> yeah
Jan 10 04:30:34 <DN-Phoenix> hold on, brb.
Jan 10 04:34:24 <DN-Phoenix> have my msn address?
Jan 10 04:34:46 <Magicman> ehm... if it's in your profile I could get it
Jan 10 04:35:26 --- SimonK|PQing is now known as SimonK
Jan 10 04:36:11 <SimonK> Hmmm... my nick will change soon
Jan 10 04:36:27 <SimonK> So... Figured it out...
Jan 10 04:36:46 <megiddo> what was the fix?
Jan 10 04:36:54 <megiddo> (how to change nick?)
Jan 10 04:37:04 <SimonK> Also found another thing which I can't remember if it was intentional, but if you keep beating up on the sick guy in the end world, his bloody body starts to attack you
Jan 10 04:37:18 <SimonK> Looks kinda weird and like the attacking save machine in FIAT
Jan 10 04:37:20 <megiddo> lol - awesome
Jan 10 04:37:41 <SimonK> But I tell ya, gotta love the Deus Strike Magic woo hoo!
Jan 10 04:38:32 <megiddo> this link from SK: http://www.texturemaker.com - check it
Jan 10 04:38:38 <megiddo> looks killer - i want it
Jan 10 04:38:59 <SimonK> I've nearly finished downloading it... dial-up to the rescue!
Jan 10 04:39:28 <SimonK> yeah... This one I'll spend the 30 day trial really using... seamless textures here we come
Jan 10 04:40:25 <megiddo> what's worse than dial-up?
Jan 10 04:40:38 <SimonK> chaning nick is just /nick [new nick]
Jan 10 04:40:49 <megiddo> is dial up fast in Aus?
Jan 10 04:40:59 <SimonK> Ah... not much... having your testicles nailed to a chair... but that's about it
Jan 10 04:41:08 <megiddo> LOL! OMG
Jan 10 04:41:21 <megiddo> don't think I want to hear THAT story (cringe)
Jan 10 04:41:34 <SimonK> That was in a movie
Jan 10 04:41:46 <SimonK> Can't remember the name
Jan 10 04:42:14 <SimonK> Horrific scene, in Hiati, voodoo/head of secret police does it to some white guy
Jan 10 04:42:21 <megiddo> there's a friggin' scripting language in Texture Maker for crying out loud!
Jan 10 04:42:36 <SimonK> Just before the nail is used the White Guy asks what the hell the Head of Secret Police wants
Jan 10 04:42:41 <megiddo> oh i know that one...Serpent and the Rainbow
Jan 10 04:42:43 <SimonK> "To hear you scream"
Jan 10 04:42:49 <SimonK> yep that's the one
Jan 10 04:43:39 <megiddo> test
Jan 10 04:43:42 <megiddo> hmm
Jan 10 04:44:31 <megiddo> anyone try gettin' rid of the 'crunchiness factor' of Dink tiles?
Jan 10 04:44:44 <DN-Phoenix> err. what?
Jan 10 04:44:45 <megiddo> i tried using blur but it fragged the seams
Jan 10 04:45:18 <megiddo> well, granted they are low-rez...but they are also high-contrast
Jan 10 04:45:48 <megiddo> i think they could have smoother color-transitions from one pixel to the next
Jan 10 04:45:57 <SimonK> You'd have to make a big texture using each one, change them, make them seamless againg etc... I'm guessing
Jan 10 04:46:06 <megiddo> crunchy...like too pixelated
Jan 10 04:46:24 <SimonK> It's 256 colours... so... pixels here we come
Jan 10 04:46:25 <megiddo> crunch pebbles
Jan 10 04:46:29 <megiddo> yeah
Jan 10 04:46:39 <SimonK> Crunchy Nut Cornflakes are good, though
Jan 10 04:46:40 <megiddo> cocoa puffs
Jan 10 04:46:52 <megiddo> totally
Jan 10 04:46:59 <megiddo> Honey Bunches of Oats is good as well
Jan 10 04:47:09 <Magicman> eh... megiddo
Jan 10 04:47:15 <SimonK> Vanilla Nutri-Grain... pale iron man food
Jan 10 04:47:20 <Magicman> you read the poll of a few month ago?
Jan 10 04:47:37 <Magicman> http://www.dinknetwork.com/poll.cgi?action=Results&PID=16
Jan 10 04:47:39 <Magicman> this one
Jan 10 04:48:23 <megiddo> reading
Jan 10 04:48:46 <megiddo> lol
Jan 10 04:48:50 <megiddo> nice
Jan 10 04:48:58 <Magicman> cool coincidence
Jan 10 04:49:04 <megiddo> synchonicty
Jan 10 04:49:09 <megiddo> yeah, totally
Jan 10 04:49:24 <SimonK> sinkingchocnicely
Jan 10 04:49:52 <megiddo> stankycrunchnastey
Jan 10 04:50:15 <megiddo> you guys are great. glad I stay up.
Jan 10 04:50:23 <Magicman> thanks
Jan 10 04:50:33 <megiddo> stayed...spelling is suffering though, doh!
Jan 10 04:50:34 <Magicman> how late is it in your time-zone
Jan 10 04:50:38 <Magicman> its 12:50 here
Jan 10 04:50:45 <megiddo> 5:50am
Jan 10 04:50:52 <SimonK> 10:50 pm here
Jan 10 04:50:59 <SimonK> I need a beer
Jan 10 04:51:11 --- Simeon|food is now known as Simeon
Jan 10 04:51:14 <Simeon> I'm back.
Jan 10 04:51:27 <megiddo> (pours SK a cold one)
Jan 10 04:51:38 <megiddo> (kicks back one for himself)
Jan 10 04:51:53 * SimonK ah... virtual beer [gulp] [gulp]
Jan 10 04:52:13 <Magicman> two beer, or not two beer... that's the question
Jan 10 04:52:50 <megiddo> truly
Jan 10 04:52:57 <SimonK> Never a question...
Jan 10 04:53:20 <Magicman> Always two beer!!
Jan 10 04:53:54 <megiddo> 99 bottles of beer on the wall...99 bottles of beer!
Jan 10 04:54:20 <SimonK> I just put 34 bottles of beer on a wall
Jan 10 04:54:27 <megiddo> (looks around nervously waiting for someone to punch him...)
Jan 10 04:54:28 <SimonK> well a shelf really
Jan 10 04:54:36 <SimonK> and that was 3 hours ago
Jan 10 04:54:38 <megiddo> empty?
Jan 10 04:54:42 <megiddo> or full?
Jan 10 04:54:51 <SimonK> Now, to wait 2 weeks for it to brew
Jan 10 04:55:05 <SimonK> dum de dum...
Jan 10 04:56:02 <megiddo> ahhh. nice. home brew
Jan 10 04:56:13 <SimonK> Yeap
Jan 10 04:56:27 <megiddo> friend of mine made a really cool pumpkin beer...sounded gross, tasted great
Jan 10 04:56:48 <Magicman> Reminds me of this limerick in a Monty-Python game
Jan 10 04:56:52 <Magicman> There once was a Sheila from Sydney,
Jan 10 04:56:53 <Magicman> Who was missing ten teeth and a kidney,
Jan 10 04:56:53 <Magicman> But her Bruce found her dear,
Jan 10 04:56:53 <Magicman> `Cause she brewed her own beer,
Jan 10 04:56:53 <Magicman> He made out fair dinkum now didn't he?
Jan 10 04:57:26 <SimonK> Oh yeah baby
Jan 10 04:57:53 <SimonK> A lack of teeth can be considered an asset in such a relationship
Jan 10 04:58:20 <Magicman> ghehe
Jan 10 04:58:25 <Magicman> I'm gonna eat something
Jan 10 04:58:28 <SimonK> Pumpkin beer... that'd be interesting...
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Jan 10 04:59:11 <megiddo> yeah, the pumpkin flavor wasn't terribly strong or anything...subtle
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Jan 10 04:59:53 <DukieE> yeah
Jan 10 05:00:00 <DukieE> Howdy folks
Jan 10 05:00:04 <SimonK> My next batch is a stout... after that I'm going to tray adding stuff like ginger... see what happens
Jan 10 05:00:05 <DN-Phoenix> ydwoh
Jan 10 05:00:18 <SimonK> Hey... light up da man!
Jan 10 05:00:42 <Simeon> hey Dukie
Jan 10 05:00:54 <megiddo> whaddup
Jan 10 05:00:55 <DukieE> light up da man?
Jan 10 05:01:17 <SimonK> You're one smoking dude, right
Jan 10 05:01:45 <DN-Phoenix> I wish some textures came with a good bump-map.
Jan 10 05:01:48 <SimonK> Even if you never sent me those answers to the questions....
Jan 10 05:01:54 <DukieE> Yeah
Jan 10 05:02:00 <DukieE> I feel bad about that
Jan 10 05:02:10 <DukieE> But I'm still gonna send them!
Jan 10 05:02:16 <megiddo> what prog Phoenix?
Jan 10 05:02:18 <SimonK> I had you light up in the TMOD, it got a laugh with Dan and few others
Jan 10 05:02:22 <DukieE>
Jan 10 05:02:27 <DN-Phoenix> I use Bryce.
Jan 10 05:02:29 <DukieE> oh that
Jan 10 05:03:31 <megiddo> you tried saving a copy and hard-tweaking the brightness contrast?
Jan 10 05:03:39 <megiddo> that can suffice sometimes
Jan 10 05:04:13 <megiddo> http://www.texturemaker.com/gallery.htm
Jan 10 05:04:21 <DN-Phoenix> I'm not much experienced in this.. I was just looking at this: http://www.texturemaker.com/smp/Nature/Field_Soil.htm <- and if you look at the background, it looks great, but look at the preview up in the left corner..
Jan 10 05:04:25 <DN-Phoenix> it looks all flat.
Jan 10 05:04:35 <megiddo> what kind of prices are offered for the DOTM and such?
Jan 10 05:04:51 <SimonK> It's free
Jan 10 05:04:53 <Simeon> If you win the DOTM, you get an award icon on the File Page and in the list of files.
Jan 10 05:04:56 <SimonK>
Jan 10 05:05:26 <DukieE> You also get a revered status in the community
Jan 10 05:05:33 <DukieE> That's what it's all about
Jan 10 05:05:40 <megiddo> oh. read something from redink1 about saving money on hosting to put towards prizes
Jan 10 05:05:49 <megiddo> doh! i said prices
Jan 10 05:06:04 <SimonK>
Jan 10 05:06:05 <Simeon> Yeah, that's about contests, like the current Weird D-Mod one.
Jan 10 05:06:16 <megiddo> i c
Jan 10 05:06:35 <megiddo> just curious, this TM prog would be a killer prize if there was a budget for it.
Jan 10 05:06:59 <megiddo> Phoenix, that texture doesn't appear to have a bump map applied to it.
Jan 10 05:07:11 <megiddo> it's just a high rex image
Jan 10 05:07:18 <SimonK> Yeah... I was just about to say that
Jan 10 05:07:25 <megiddo> rez...
Jan 10 05:07:50 <SimonK> Need a image editing prog for dat
Jan 10 05:08:07 <megiddo> in 3dsMax you can distort a mesh with a map (amybe other's too i dunno) which is really neat
Jan 10 05:08:32 <megiddo> SK - right
Jan 10 05:09:17 <SimonK> Yes... that's the one thing Blender doesn't do well... mesh distortion via image bump map
Jan 10 05:09:18 <megiddo> personally, i'm not fond of photo-realistic textures. hard to pull off well
Jan 10 05:09:32 <SimonK> At least not in terms of casting correct shadows
Jan 10 05:09:54 <megiddo> can't you get it how you want and then, well 'cook' it?
Jan 10 05:10:05 <megiddo> so that it's no longer editable...might work then
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Jan 10 05:10:54 <megiddo> i know in max, alot of those fancy methods remain procedures until you collapse the modifier stack
Jan 10 05:11:17 <megiddo> i don't know blender though.
Jan 10 05:11:25 <SimonK> I'm not sure... haven't found a way yet... I got it to deform the texture on the mesh so it looks like the mesh is deformed to the shape I'm after, but the shadow is still undeformed
Jan 10 05:11:35 <SimonK> Haven't come back to it for a while
Jan 10 05:11:49 <SimonK> Can't afford Max or Maya
Jan 10 05:12:13 <SimonK> Of course, Blender suits my budget right down to the ground... "I want to be free"
Jan 10 05:12:19 <megiddo> i can't either. it's a friend's prog.
Jan 10 05:12:40 <megiddo> i don't use it to make $$$ so I consider it 'educational' version
Jan 10 05:13:04 <DukieE> hehe
Jan 10 05:13:27 <SimonK> Hmmm... but do the makers of the proggie consider you a student they have given a grant to?
Jan 10 05:14:04 <megiddo> o.k. - let's not talk software ethics. i'm too tired
Jan 10 05:14:20 <SimonK> ok...
Jan 10 05:14:24 <megiddo> but I hear you.
Jan 10 05:14:58 <SimonK> I ain't that serious about it... more interested in playing with the words and the concept than the politics of the thing
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Jan 10 05:15:38 <megiddo> can be argued both ways
Jan 10 05:15:48 <SimonK> Words, double meanings... riddles... entendres (sp?) - all amuse me
Jan 10 05:16:15 <Simeon> Hehe.
Jan 10 05:16:20 <Magicman> So I noticed
Jan 10 05:17:23 <DukieE> Attempt to evaluate the actual power of brands by making Austrian people draw a total of twelve logos (nine international, three typically European) from memory, 25 people per brand: http://www.monochrom.at/markenzeichnen/index-eng.htm
Jan 10 05:17:31 <DukieE> Ummm
Jan 10 05:17:39 <DukieE> It's interesting
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Jan 10 05:20:40 <SimonK> okaie smokie... I'm off for some shut eye
Jan 10 05:20:57 <DukieE> hehe
Jan 10 05:20:58 <SimonK> say hi to the swordfish if he turns up
Jan 10 05:21:04 <DukieE> The questions are on the way!
Jan 10 05:21:05 <megiddo> have good shuteye
Jan 10 05:21:09 <DukieE> I loved the T-mod btw
Jan 10 05:21:13 <SimonK> Some one should do a fish dance with him
Jan 10 05:21:18 <SimonK> thanks!
Jan 10 05:21:27 <SimonK> ciao bella
Jan 10 05:21:28 <Simeon> see ya
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Jan 10 05:21:34 <megiddo> peace
Jan 10 05:21:46 <DukieE> I'm out of here too
Jan 10 05:21:50 <megiddo> i'm out too fellas. it's 6:22am and I've not gone to bed yet.
Jan 10 05:21:53 <DukieE>
Jan 10 05:21:56 <megiddo> glad I could catch you all though
Jan 10 05:22:07 <megiddo> see ya on the flipside
Jan 10 05:22:10 <DukieE> hehe
Jan 10 05:22:14 <Simeon> Ok, see ya
Jan 10 05:22:14 <DukieE> good nizzle!
Jan 10 05:22:22 <megiddo> fo shizzle
Jan 10 05:22:26 <DukieE> =)
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Jan 10 05:22:41 <DukieE> Yeah
Jan 10 05:22:55 <DukieE> nu kunnen we nederlands praten
Jan 10 05:23:00 <Simeon> Yay, gezellig
Jan 10 05:23:06 <Magicman> fijn
Jan 10 05:23:09 <Magicman> op Phoenix na
Jan 10 05:23:14 <DukieE>
Jan 10 05:23:20 <Simeon> en Merlin, maar die is toch aan het loggen
Jan 10 05:23:37 <DukieE> maja, ik was ook weg
Jan 10 05:23:44 <DukieE> Tot de volgende keer dus
Jan 10 05:23:54 <Simeon> Awh, see ya
Jan 10 05:24:00 <DukieE> aaaaaaaight!
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Jan 10 05:24:37 <Magicman> okee, iedereen gaat er vandoor
Jan 10 05:24:57 <Simeon> en jij?
Jan 10 05:25:03 <Magicman> ik blijf nog wel ff
Jan 10 05:25:16 <Simeon> ah, ik ook
Jan 10 05:25:52 <Magicman> doe jij nog iets aan de weird contest?
Jan 10 05:26:28 <Simeon> nou, ik heb eigenlijk geen ideeën voor een Weird D-Mod dus ik denk niet dat ik iets ga inleveren :-/
Jan 10 05:26:43 <Simeon> en jij?
Jan 10 05:26:47 <Magicman> ik had wel iets...
Jan 10 05:26:54 <Magicman> een soort mario-party
Jan 10 05:27:28 <Simeon> maar daar ben je niet mee verder gegaan? Aangezien je "had" zei..
Jan 10 05:27:34 <Magicman> idd
Jan 10 05:27:41 <Magicman> was er in de kerstvakantie aan begonnen
Jan 10 05:27:58 <Magicman> maar het was vreselijk saai werk, en ik had geen zin om een nieuwe map te maken
Jan 10 05:28:20 <Simeon> ah, I see.
Jan 10 05:28:55 <DN-Phoenix> ooh boy.. Just saw a capoiera show on TV just now.. THAT is awesome.
Jan 10 05:28:56 <Simeon> tzal mij benieuwen wat de resultaten van de contest worden - ik heb nog niet echt iets gehoord van iemand die wel iets heeft..
Jan 10 05:30:25 <Magicman> ik ook niet, maar het kreeg meer reacties dan die met de Evil Hero
Jan 10 05:30:42 <Magicman> Beginning of Evil v2.0 coming soon btw
Jan 10 05:31:17 <Simeon> Yeah, besides the contest, I do have some ideas for D-Mods, including one nice part of a D-Mod already done
Jan 10 05:38:05 <Magicman> ooh, ooh, tell, tell
Jan 10 05:38:32 <Simeon> Ehm, well let's just say its
Jan 10 05:38:46 <Simeon> it's an interesting story
Jan 10 05:39:02 <Simeon> And I won't reveal the other idea
Jan 10 05:39:13 <Simeon> Though I haven't really revealed anything...
Jan 10 05:39:27 <Magicman> not really, but you made me curious
Jan 10 05:40:07 <Simeon> Hehe, I guess it'll probably take some time until it gets released as I haven't figured the ending of the D-Mod yet..
Jan 10 05:40:35 <Magicman> can you imagine... I'm working on 3 DMods now
Jan 10 05:40:43 <Simeon> Hehe
Jan 10 05:40:58 <Simeon> And BOE2 is the first of those to get released?
Jan 10 05:41:04 <Magicman> I guess so
Jan 10 05:41:14 <Magicman> If I find time
Jan 10 05:41:32 <Magicman> exam week coming soon
Jan 10 05:41:51 <Magicman> second is New War Chronicle Dink Smallwood
Jan 10 05:42:16 <Magicman> it's some school project of one of my friends
Jan 10 05:42:26 <Simeon> Hmm, you have the exam week some time after the Xmas holidays...
Jan 10 05:42:29 <Simeon> Ah, I see.
Jan 10 05:44:02 <Magicman> yes, not next week, but the week after
Jan 10 05:44:17 <Simeon> Hmm, ok.
Jan 10 05:44:42 <Magicman> and you?
Jan 10 05:46:05 <Simeon> well
Jan 10 05:46:48 <Magicman> ??? I lost track of the conversation
Jan 10 05:46:51 <Magicman> I guess
Jan 10 05:46:52 <Simeon> I had a week of exams just before the Xmas holidays and now it's something like a month or so with normal schooldays, and then another week of exams (Tweede Fase, je weet toch)
Jan 10 05:47:43 <Magicman> Ah... what class are you in, by the way
Jan 10 05:47:51 <Magicman> 2e fase sucks
Jan 10 05:48:03 <Simeon> VWO5 + Latin so actually GYM5
Jan 10 05:48:22 <Simeon> And in what class are you?
Jan 10 05:48:34 <Magicman> I'm VWO 6, NT + Bio1,2 and Greek
Jan 10 05:48:46 <Magicman> NT = Natuur en Techniek
Jan 10 05:48:52 <Simeon> I know I know, I'm doing it myself
Jan 10 05:49:15 <Simeon> VWO5, NT + Computer Science + Latin
Jan 10 05:49:23 <Simeon> Informatica, for the Dutch people around
Jan 10 05:49:41 <Magicman> ghehe
Jan 10 05:50:02 <Magicman> Many of my classmates do that too
Jan 10 05:50:10 <Magicman> but then NG instead of NT
Jan 10 05:50:46 <Simeon> Heh. There are only something like 10 people who do NT this year.
Jan 10 05:51:26 <Magicman> Here too. Not a very popular profile, if that's the correct word for it
Jan 10 05:52:20 <Magicman> Greek is also very unpopular. In VWO 6 only 3 pupils
Jan 10 05:52:31 <Magicman> Latin... 20 or something
Jan 10 05:52:53 <Simeon> Hmm, it's somewhat the same here; 20 Latin and 20 Greek with 3, 4 who do both.
Jan 10 05:53:10 <Simeon> Wait, the numbers are a little less.
Jan 10 05:53:52 <Simeon> No, they're quite accurate actually (both groups are at least 15), heh.
Jan 10 05:54:07 <Magicman> wow... pretty large Greek group then
Jan 10 05:54:58 <Simeon> Yeah, it are pretty big classes actually - though I'm not that sure about the Greek class as I'm counting the people from memory but they're at least way more than 3.
Jan 10 05:55:49 <Simeon> And then KCV, a full classroom
Jan 10 05:56:19 <Magicman> Yes, I imagine. I don't have it anymore
Jan 10 05:56:32 <Magicman> I do Literature in English, and it sucks
Jan 10 05:56:53 <Magicman> Véry boring... at least not as boring as Dutch Literature
Jan 10 05:57:17 <Simeon> Ah, I see. Guess I'll see it myself when I have to read English books next year or so.
Jan 10 05:57:39 <Magicman> I got it too in the second half of the fifth
Jan 10 05:58:22 <Magicman> Chemistry 2 is new in the sixth
Jan 10 05:58:26 <Simeon> Hmm, I haven't heard my English teacher about it, though we are going to do Shakespeare some time this year.
Jan 10 05:58:40 <Simeon> Yeah, Chemistry 2 next year.
Jan 10 05:58:45 <Magicman> better than the dutch Mulish crap anyway
Jan 10 05:59:08 <DN-Phoenix> okay, I'm going now.. I'm gonna do reinstallation.
Jan 10 05:59:11 <Simeon> Yeah, that's good to hear
Jan 10 05:59:13 <Simeon> Ok, see ya
Jan 10 05:59:19 <Magicman> CU
Jan 10 05:59:27 <Simeon> mzzl
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Jan 10 05:59:56 <Magicman> we kunnen weer Nederlands kleppen
Jan 10 06:00:08 <Simeon> yep, gewoon lekker verder
Jan 10 06:00:12 <Simeon> tot ie terugkomt
Jan 10 06:00:25 <Magicman> ennehh.. m'n ouders vieren vandaag hun verjaardag, dus ik zal héél vaak niet reageren
Jan 10 06:00:29 <Magicman> ik moet socializen
Jan 10 06:00:44 <Simeon> toeval toeval toeval
Jan 10 06:00:49 <Simeon> mijn vader is vandaag jarig
Jan 10 06:00:56 <Magicman> gefeliciteerd!
Jan 10 06:01:03 <Simeon> jij ook gefeliciteerd!
Jan 10 06:01:08 <Magicman> m'n moeder afgelopen woensdag
Jan 10 06:01:20 <Magicman> en m'n vader een woensdag precies een maand geleden
Jan 10 06:01:28 <Magicman> 7 dec en 7 jan
Jan 10 06:01:43 <Simeon> Heh, m'n vader dus vandaag, 10 jan.
Jan 10 06:02:12 <Magicman> doe jij ook nog iets aan een meerdaagse excursie?
Jan 10 06:02:18 <Magicman> ik ging vorig jaar naar Rome
Jan 10 06:02:35 <Simeon> Ik ook
Op 3 oct gingen we weg, tot de 10eJan 10 06:02:50 <Magicman> Cool,
Jan 10 06:03:01 <Magicman> ben daar wel de boutste engelse text tegengekomen EVER
Jan 10 06:03:08 <Simeon> Ohja, welke dan?
Jan 10 06:03:22 <Magicman> ff opzoeken
Jan 10 06:03:40 <Magicman> Ik pleur dit soort aardigheedjes altijd in m'n DMods
Jan 10 06:03:49 <Simeon> Hehe
Jan 10 06:04:25 <Magicman> 'Food end tekawai'
Jan 10 06:04:41 <Simeon> Ehh, geweldig Engels
Jan 10 06:04:54 <Magicman> naast 'hotel California'
Jan 10 06:05:11 <Magicman> lekkere pizza, dat wel
Jan 10 06:05:32 <Simeon> Yep, Rome heeft best wel lekker eten, 't hangt er maar net vanaf waar je 't haalt.
Jan 10 06:05:33 <Magicman> dang... bezoek
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Jan 10 06:05:49 <Magicman|socializing>
Jan 10 06:05:57 <Simeon> Heh, have fun
Jan 10 06:06:00 <Magicman|socializing> Ristorante Alessio hadden wij...
Jan 10 06:06:02 <Magicman|socializing> bedankt
Jan 10 06:06:09 <Magicman|socializing> ik zie wel wie er is als ik terug kom
Jan 10 06:06:17 <Simeon> Geen idee hoe dat restaurant van ons heette, naja
Jan 10 06:07:11 <Magicman|socializing> hotel dei mille
Jan 10 06:07:55 <Simeon> Yay, ook de naam van 't hotel zou 'k zo niet weten - moet dat er verslag er maar eens bijpakken als 'k iets wil weten
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Jan 10 06:22:47 <Magicman> zozo... ben er weer
Jan 10 06:22:54 <Simeon> kzie het
Jan 10 06:24:30 <Magicman> denk dat iemand m'n internet verbinding aan't verkrachten was
Jan 10 06:24:37 <Magicman> MSN viel ook uit
Jan 10 06:24:41 <Magicman> en m'n browsers ook
Jan 10 06:25:07 <Simeon>
