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Re: Neanderthal DNA in all Europeons and to a smaller exttent Asians Africans the most evoled?

April 8th 2014, 12:27 PM
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ThePunisher
Peasant He/Him Australia
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So does this means Negroids are more evolved or do you think these stories are false Let me know what you think.
April 8th 2014, 01:44 PM
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The gist of it is this:

1. A long time ago, a bunch of people (or close enough) left Africa. These people became the Neanderthals.

2. Not such a long time ago, another bunch of people left Africa. These people had S E X with the Neanderthals.

3. The people who stayed behind in Africa did not have S E X with the Neanderthals.

I'm not sure how you're supposed to arrive at the conclusion that "Africans are more evolved"... Your logic leaps kinda make my head hurt.
April 8th 2014, 02:41 PM
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ThePunisher
Peasant He/Him Australia
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Arent Neanderthals less intelligent more primitive then Homo sapiens?
April 8th 2014, 02:51 PM
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Cocomonkey
Bard He/Him United States
Please Cindy, say the whole name each time. 
There's no such thing as "more evolved." You're not "more evolved" than a bacterium. Everything's been evolving for the same amount of time.
April 8th 2014, 02:54 PM
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ThePunisher
Peasant He/Him Australia
(Tag Line) How long is this line. 
Not true.

Anyway do you think these story is false?
April 8th 2014, 03:09 PM
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Neanderthals are extinct. Homo-sapiens and homo-neanderthals are separate species of human. Since the neanderthals all died out I dunno 35,000(?) years ago it's safe to assume that we, the homo-sapiens, are more evolved. So sure, if this is what you're saying I agree with you.

However I don't think that's what you're saying. Are you trying to say that those with the least amounts of neanderthal genomes are the most evolved? Because that's not really how it works.
April 8th 2014, 04:31 PM
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KrisKnox
Peasant He/Him United States
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The logic of two similar breeds procreating to create a 'new' breed being more evolved is illogical.
If you breed a wolf with a husky, is it farther along the evolutionary line?
Does that make mutts, dogs that are essentially a mixing pot of multiple breeds of dogs, more evolved?

I honestly do not believe this.
Therefore, to me, Neanderthals and Sapiens procreating would not be any more evolved than Humans today.
April 8th 2014, 06:08 PM
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Arent Neanderthals less intelligent more primitive then Homo sapiens?

Nope. There's plenty of evidence of Neanderthal tool use, cave paintings and funeral rites - the same stuff as humans of the time. Whether they were noticeably dumber, as intelligent, or smarter than contemporary modern humans is anyone's guess with the amount of information we have. They weren't short either.

Even if they HAD been moronic troglodytes, interbreeding wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing in the long run. Natural selection favours good traits, so a troglodyte/human descendant would have Human Intelligence +1 and Troglodyte Strength +1, rather than Human Strength -1 and Troglodyte Intelligence -1.

And certainly, none of this is "More evolved"... Simply "better" would be a much more fitting word for what you're getting at.
April 8th 2014, 07:59 PM
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KrisKnox
Peasant He/Him United States
The site's resident Therian (Dire Wolf, Dragon) 
Even then, stating something is 'more evolved' is a gross oversimplification of the evolutionary process, of which I do not claim to be knowledgeable in due to having no formal education in it beyond passing mention in a grade school science class.
From what I do know is that evolution happens in which a certain animal gains traits that allow it to thrive in a specific environment, such as certain birds having smaller, thinner beaks to snatch up termites and the like than other birds with more robust beaks.
April 9th 2014, 04:42 AM
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ThePunisher
Peasant He/Him Australia
(Tag Line) How long is this line. 
Nope. There's plenty of evidence of Neanderthal tool use, cave paintings and funeral rites - the same stuff as humans of the time. Whether they were noticeably dumber, as intelligent, or smarter than contemporary modern humans is anyone's guess with the amount of information we have. They weren't short either.

Really?
April 10th 2014, 12:43 AM
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Striker
Noble She/Her United States
Daniel, there are clowns. 
Based on the latest discovered evidence, yes. A quick internet search should be enough if you want dig deeper and confirm it.