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Time for Dailymotion

August 16th 2010, 02:29 PM
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Skull
Peasant He/Him Finland bloop
A Disembodied Sod 
My time has come to upload some of my stuff to Dailymotion. YouTube just deleted my hard worked on video that absolutely did not break as much copyright as some of the videos I've seen. Ducking YouTube sucks horse ass. those idiots went and deleted my videos after being online for about 24 hours and videos that ducking didn't break any copyrights. from now on, all that kinda stuff is gonna go to Dailymotion, I'm telling you. And I suggest you to do so too. To at least secure that your channel won't get deleted.

DUCK PRIESTASSTUBE!!
August 18th 2010, 09:51 AM
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DaVince
Peasant He/Him Netherlands
Olde Time Dinkere 
dang, that sucks. Copyright was claimed by who, exactly? You only used Dink Smallwood material, in which case it could only be RTSoft, but hey, I don't see Seth doing that.

Oh well, at least Dailymotion doesn't sporadically remove videos like Youtube does.
August 18th 2010, 10:26 AM
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Skull
Peasant He/Him Finland bloop
A Disembodied Sod 
It wasn't Dink Smallwood material, but it was something that in my opinion was really not worth deleting. Copyright was claimed by someone who has nothing to do with anything I uploaded, which is quite strange.

And yeah, Dailymotion is far better when it comes to copyright claims. YouTube's goal seems to be deleting videos. I mean, it's tag line should be "Broadcast yourself, until we delete all your vids".
August 18th 2010, 12:45 PM
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Kyle
Peasant He/Him Belgium
 
Well dang, that sucks But you've uploaded dozens of videos and only one went wrong? Sounds reasonable for a free service don't you think?

What exactly was pointed out as copyrighted material btw? Don't they have to give you a report on that?
August 18th 2010, 12:50 PM
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Skull
Peasant He/Him Finland bloop
A Disembodied Sod 
No, not a report. They just sent me a message saying some crap about different USA laws (which can't even effect me, as I live in Finland) and that stealing others' material is not legal, and I could be in serious trouble. Then they said who sent the copyright breaking claim, was some weird company I've never heard about.
August 18th 2010, 12:56 PM
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They mean they could be in serious trouble

Youtube is based in the US and uses their laws, so even if you were allowed to break copyright from Finland you just can't do it on their website!

If Dailymotion gets as popular as Youtube the same thing will happen there eventually...
August 18th 2010, 01:01 PM
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Skull
Peasant He/Him Finland bloop
A Disembodied Sod 
But that's the point... it won't get as popular.
August 18th 2010, 02:23 PM
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Kyle
Peasant He/Him Belgium
 
But then nobody will watch your videos I say stick with Youtube and just conform more to the rules
August 18th 2010, 02:24 PM
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Skull
Peasant He/Him Finland bloop
A Disembodied Sod 
I'll post videos with links to YouTube. And the links will lead to my Dailymotion videos.
August 18th 2010, 02:32 PM
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Kyle
Peasant He/Him Belgium
 
Well I didn't mean WE wouldn't watch your videos anymore, of course it doesn't make a difference to us what we'll be watching it on. But people just randomly searching or subscribers won't find yours, cause everyone is on Youtube for that

Btw, where are the PS1/2 game let's plays you hinted at!
August 18th 2010, 02:37 PM
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Skull
Peasant He/Him Finland bloop
A Disembodied Sod 
I changed that into just "PlayStation games". And I might just as well start doing those as the other stuff failed. First I'm gonna do an LP of a new game "Red Dead Redemption" cause it's epic (and mainly so I don't forget all the stuff I need to do ). I'll upload a video and put download links cause otherwise YouTube will probably be a she dog again and delete them.
August 18th 2010, 02:49 PM
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Kyle
Peasant He/Him Belgium
 
Red Dead Redemption? I hope you're not going to do every quest, that would take years to LP
August 18th 2010, 02:57 PM
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Skull
Peasant He/Him Finland bloop
A Disembodied Sod 
Aiming for 100%.

EDIT: The latest/first one I did without a walkthrough I got something like 85%. For the LP, I'm gonna use the walkthrough for some parts.
August 18th 2010, 02:59 PM
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Kyle
Peasant He/Him Belgium
 
Well I've only seen a friend play it once so I'm interested in seeing what the hype's about

BTW Skull, you and I have nothing better to do than refresh the DN? xD
August 18th 2010, 03:00 PM
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Skull
Peasant He/Him Finland bloop
A Disembodied Sod 
No, apparently. At least now I work in the mornings, but after that, it's all just clicking the forum link on TDN.
August 18th 2010, 03:01 PM
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Kyle
Peasant He/Him Belgium
 
Aha that explains it
August 18th 2010, 10:22 PM
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ExDeathEvn
Peasant He/Him New Zealand rumble
"Skinny Legend" 
What, you didn't even look up and investigate this mysterious company and issue a dispute on their lies? o_O

Or was it Nokia?
August 18th 2010, 11:14 PM
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Absolution
Peasant They/Them
The Dark Lord of the DN. 
You can counter sue with a false copyright claim to destroy YouTube and bring back loads of videos from your channel and other people who didn't break any copyrighting.
August 19th 2010, 03:07 AM
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SabreTrout
Noble He/Him United Kingdom
Tigertigertiger. 
I can't even upload to YouTube due to laws in South Korea.
August 19th 2010, 04:12 AM
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Hey he never said that he didn't break copyright, just that Youtube caught him at it
August 19th 2010, 08:43 AM
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Skull
Peasant He/Him Finland bloop
A Disembodied Sod 
Fact is, I indeed broke copyright, not that much, but yes. But the point is: First, I did not break copyright enough so they should delete my videos. Second, there are loads of videos with much more copyrighted material in them. Third, the company that had claimed the copyright breaking, DOES NOT EXIST and HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE VIDEOS I UPLOADED.
August 19th 2010, 09:33 AM
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So what was it, exactly? So far it sounds like Youtube did exactly what they should do.
August 19th 2010, 11:07 AM
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iplaydink
Peasant He/Him Sweden
Hmm.. 
They aren't doing what they should do, they are doing what they have to do.

I think most of us can agree that they should keep videos even if they violates copyright laws, but they have to delete them otherwise they would get sued sooner or later for hosting those illegal videos.
August 19th 2010, 11:25 AM
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Skull
Peasant He/Him Finland bloop
A Disembodied Sod 
Get sued? Big ducking deal. I mean, they live in America. Being so rich, they could pay themselves out of a first degree murder.
August 19th 2010, 12:27 PM
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iplaydink
Peasant He/Him Sweden
Hmm.. 
YouTube wouldn't be able to pay anyone anything if they got into problems with the big companies. The music and film industries are what really control the economy of the US.
August 19th 2010, 01:13 PM
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Skull
Peasant He/Him Finland bloop
A Disembodied Sod 
Well, then basically, I could claim a copyright break on YouTube because they have my videos on their website.
August 19th 2010, 01:30 PM
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iplaydink
Peasant He/Him Sweden
Hmm.. 
Why don't you try?
August 20th 2010, 08:23 AM
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Skull
Peasant He/Him Finland bloop
A Disembodied Sod 
Look, the point is, copyright cannot be claimed by someone who has nothing to do with the material of the video, and even less by someone (a company) that doesn't exist.
August 20th 2010, 09:45 AM
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SabreTrout
Noble He/Him United Kingdom
Tigertigertiger. 
A site like YouTube can only be viable if it agrees to take down any copyrighted material. They can ignore it to a certain extent by saying "There is so much uploaded to YouTube on any given day, there's no way we can effectively police it." However, due to this, I imagine they have said that they will take down any videos that are reported as breaking copyright.

If RTSoft (read, anyone) go to sue YouTube for hosting copyrighted material, and it comes out that YouTube have already been notified that the material was copyrighted (regardless of who notified them), they're dead in the water.

It's the only way they can remain viable; "We can't monitor it all, but we promise to take something down if someone lets us know it shouldn't be there." It may not seem fair to you, the end-user, but they have to do it to protect themselves.

I guess.