Reply to Re: Are there any Objectivists out here?
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September 28th 2005, 12:02 AM
Lurkala
Christianity by it's own definition of truth is Truth. Scientology by it's own definition of truth is Truth. And I don't see any different behaviour in Objectivism so far - by it's own definition of truth, it is Truth.
Reality is always real, yes. However, you do not seem to understand what subjective reality actually is when you claim that it doesn't exist - it is one particular view of reality, and every single human being has a different view based on their own understanding of the world. Can any human understand the workings of the whole universe and the meaning of life? Objectively, we can't. Then how can anyone claim to know the Truth?
You reject science as non-objective. Yet you post with subjective reasoning, and when others objectively point out that you're not being objective, you take refuge in saying "I am right because my beliefs are based on believing that these beliefs are objective reality" which proves nothing more than that you are no different from a Christian who quotes from the Bible to support that the Bible is the only Truth rather than using objective evidence. This entire thread offers you objective evidence of your own subjectivity, and you deny it because you believe that subjective reality does not exist even as you demonstrate that it does.
If you are truly objective, then you will examine your beliefs to see if there is any trace of subjectivity there, any circular reasoning, and you will eliminate those beliefs rather than clinging to them because you believe them. Right?
Reality is always real, yes. However, you do not seem to understand what subjective reality actually is when you claim that it doesn't exist - it is one particular view of reality, and every single human being has a different view based on their own understanding of the world. Can any human understand the workings of the whole universe and the meaning of life? Objectively, we can't. Then how can anyone claim to know the Truth?
You reject science as non-objective. Yet you post with subjective reasoning, and when others objectively point out that you're not being objective, you take refuge in saying "I am right because my beliefs are based on believing that these beliefs are objective reality" which proves nothing more than that you are no different from a Christian who quotes from the Bible to support that the Bible is the only Truth rather than using objective evidence. This entire thread offers you objective evidence of your own subjectivity, and you deny it because you believe that subjective reality does not exist even as you demonstrate that it does.
If you are truly objective, then you will examine your beliefs to see if there is any trace of subjectivity there, any circular reasoning, and you will eliminate those beliefs rather than clinging to them because you believe them. Right?
