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But what if science IS a religion?
what is science and what is religion? if you answered science is fact and religion is fiction then you are like safmoor.
you can believe in physics and negate the metaphysical (anything not physical) based on the fact that it simply isnt physical, but then how can you negate notions that physical is a product of purely metaphysical existence? ie the source of things physical are not physical, they do not exist apart from the metaphysical. so these views are not mutually exclusive.
therefore
a view that physical exists apart from AND INCLUDING metaphysical cannot be argued.
a view that physical exists and metaphysical does not may be true BUT that the view that metaphysical exists and physical does not may not be just as true... also cannot be argued.
a view of the vice versa of the previous view cannot be argued.
so if you pick that physical exists and nothing metaphysical does, then what does that make you? a chemical state. and therefore, me taking a chainsaw to your face is different in no way from me taking a chainsaw to a chair. so therefore if thats what i feel like doing, there is nothing stopping me besides physical forces. does the chemical state of my brain wish to do so? do i have the physical power to pick up the chainsaw? the only life you know are names given to contexts of arrangements of cells.
its a bleak viewpoint if you ask me. but sure theres nothing logically wrong with it. the logic error is saying that the opposing view (physical exists only as the metaphysical) is wrong. they cant say you are wrong, and you cant say they are wrong.
so the real question is, do ghosts exist, or do you exist? (apart from a context)
summary: science and religion are both major parts of two possible and equally logic views. if you believe in one, you can disprove the other. if you believe in both, there is no proof that both exist.
summary of the summary: science IS religion.
what is science and what is religion? if you answered science is fact and religion is fiction then you are like safmoor.
you can believe in physics and negate the metaphysical (anything not physical) based on the fact that it simply isnt physical, but then how can you negate notions that physical is a product of purely metaphysical existence? ie the source of things physical are not physical, they do not exist apart from the metaphysical. so these views are not mutually exclusive.
therefore
a view that physical exists apart from AND INCLUDING metaphysical cannot be argued.
a view that physical exists and metaphysical does not may be true BUT that the view that metaphysical exists and physical does not may not be just as true... also cannot be argued.
a view of the vice versa of the previous view cannot be argued.
so if you pick that physical exists and nothing metaphysical does, then what does that make you? a chemical state. and therefore, me taking a chainsaw to your face is different in no way from me taking a chainsaw to a chair. so therefore if thats what i feel like doing, there is nothing stopping me besides physical forces. does the chemical state of my brain wish to do so? do i have the physical power to pick up the chainsaw? the only life you know are names given to contexts of arrangements of cells.
its a bleak viewpoint if you ask me. but sure theres nothing logically wrong with it. the logic error is saying that the opposing view (physical exists only as the metaphysical) is wrong. they cant say you are wrong, and you cant say they are wrong.
so the real question is, do ghosts exist, or do you exist? (apart from a context)
summary: science and religion are both major parts of two possible and equally logic views. if you believe in one, you can disprove the other. if you believe in both, there is no proof that both exist.
summary of the summary: science IS religion.
