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Great, so where is this proof? If so many books say Jesus didn't die on the cross, it should be really easy to look up one on google, and quote the passage here.
They are. So why aren't you doing so, if you are so keen to argue with me? I have better things to do than look up tons of exact quotes from all these texts to satisfy your beliefs. But just for your joy, I looked it up on Google, just to see which one would pop up first and one of the first that did is from The Second Treatise of the Great Seth (yeah, probably didn't know RTSoft was around back then.
), which I'd suggest you read, btw. Anyway, the quote from Jesus goes:
"I did not succumb to them as they had planned. But I was not afflicted at all. Those who were there punished me. But I did not die in reality but in appearance, lest I be put to shame by them... I was rejoicing in the height over all the wealth of the archons and the offspring of their error, of their empty glory, and I was laughing at their ignorance."
Nearly all of the lost books say that there was something fishy with Jesus' death on the cross. Some say that another died in Jesus' place (this person varies a LOT) and some state that it was Jesus on the cross but he didn't die. I believe in the latter one, personally, because there's something strange about the whole death thing itself. In the Bible, after Jesus dies, a lot of people (including Pontius Pilatus) are surprised at how unbelieveably fast Jesus had died. Which would go to suggest that he didn't die, but went into some state unconsciousness and faked his death. What also suggests it was Jesus on the cross, is when Jesus appears later and tells his disciples to touch his injuries, which were from the torture he suffered. Throw in the fact that we all know it's not possible to return from the dead, at least by the technology of those times, it all points to the theory that Jesus didn't die on the cross.
The other quote about a higher power God doesn't know. I had to pull it from my computer so I don't really remember where it's from. I probably pulled it from some site ages ago, which I can't find anymore. But I know there are very similar, almost identical quotes in other lost books, including the Gospel of Judas which is all over the Internet, so it shouldn't be hard to find. In the quote Jesus says to Judas and angels: "There exists a boundless realm, whose extent no eye of an angel has seen and in which there exists a great invisible Spirit. Truly I say to you, no eye of an angel has seen, no thought of the heart has ever comprehended, and no angel has called it by any name."
Now the quote itself doesn't say anything about God, but Jesus also explains that God is an angel, and once that angel's time is over, another angel will take his place as God. Therefore, when he says "no eye of an angel has seen", it would obviously mean God (as in none of the Gods) has seen it either.
The stuff is all out there. The more famous ones are really not hard to find at all.
And now I really wish this debate would be done with. Only reason I'm even taking a part of it is cause I didn't appreciate myself and my beliefs being called stupid, simply cause I was participating in a thread conversation. Say what you want, I'm done with this talk. Have fun believing in what you want, I'll believe in what I want, and am not afraid to say it out loud. I don't think there is anything hurtful or stupid about that. And that's all I've got to say. Have a good night, guys.
They are. So why aren't you doing so, if you are so keen to argue with me? I have better things to do than look up tons of exact quotes from all these texts to satisfy your beliefs. But just for your joy, I looked it up on Google, just to see which one would pop up first and one of the first that did is from The Second Treatise of the Great Seth (yeah, probably didn't know RTSoft was around back then.
), which I'd suggest you read, btw. Anyway, the quote from Jesus goes: "I did not succumb to them as they had planned. But I was not afflicted at all. Those who were there punished me. But I did not die in reality but in appearance, lest I be put to shame by them... I was rejoicing in the height over all the wealth of the archons and the offspring of their error, of their empty glory, and I was laughing at their ignorance."
Nearly all of the lost books say that there was something fishy with Jesus' death on the cross. Some say that another died in Jesus' place (this person varies a LOT) and some state that it was Jesus on the cross but he didn't die. I believe in the latter one, personally, because there's something strange about the whole death thing itself. In the Bible, after Jesus dies, a lot of people (including Pontius Pilatus) are surprised at how unbelieveably fast Jesus had died. Which would go to suggest that he didn't die, but went into some state unconsciousness and faked his death. What also suggests it was Jesus on the cross, is when Jesus appears later and tells his disciples to touch his injuries, which were from the torture he suffered. Throw in the fact that we all know it's not possible to return from the dead, at least by the technology of those times, it all points to the theory that Jesus didn't die on the cross.
The other quote about a higher power God doesn't know. I had to pull it from my computer so I don't really remember where it's from. I probably pulled it from some site ages ago, which I can't find anymore. But I know there are very similar, almost identical quotes in other lost books, including the Gospel of Judas which is all over the Internet, so it shouldn't be hard to find. In the quote Jesus says to Judas and angels: "There exists a boundless realm, whose extent no eye of an angel has seen and in which there exists a great invisible Spirit. Truly I say to you, no eye of an angel has seen, no thought of the heart has ever comprehended, and no angel has called it by any name."
Now the quote itself doesn't say anything about God, but Jesus also explains that God is an angel, and once that angel's time is over, another angel will take his place as God. Therefore, when he says "no eye of an angel has seen", it would obviously mean God (as in none of the Gods) has seen it either.
The stuff is all out there. The more famous ones are really not hard to find at all.
And now I really wish this debate would be done with. Only reason I'm even taking a part of it is cause I didn't appreciate myself and my beliefs being called stupid, simply cause I was participating in a thread conversation. Say what you want, I'm done with this talk. Have fun believing in what you want, I'll believe in what I want, and am not afraid to say it out loud. I don't think there is anything hurtful or stupid about that. And that's all I've got to say. Have a good night, guys.
