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You make it sound like as if what I or you say changes facts. Nope. Facts just are there. Whether you admit them or not, like them or not, or what you say about them.
Hahaha! Here's a lesson for you: when you talk to people, pretend to be in their position, and imagine what effect your words have on them.
I agree that facts are just facts, and what we say about them doesn't change them. However, we have to look around us and find out for ourselves which statements are facts, and which are not. In a discussion, you can explain your reasons for believing that something is true, and so can other people. You listen to each other, point out flaws in the reasoning, and possibly change your reasoning. In some cases, that may result in a different outcome, which means that you no longer believe something, or you started believing it.
So you believe that all Americans love guns. I suppose you have your reasons for believing that. But as long as you don't make them known, nobody is going to start or stop believing anything. Which means you might as well not say it at all. Stating a fact without evidence is only possible if the evidence is trivial and everybody can see it (like "this house is red"). As soon as there is discussion about a supposed fact, you need arguments (evidence) to support your claim.
Anyone who defends guns even to the slightest extent, does think they are cool, even if it is the most minimum of cool possible.
Now you're being silly. I never defended guns, and I don't think I ever will (or wait, I said the police can have them; does that count?), but I do think they are cool. I like machines. I like machines that make things (like 3-D printers) a lot more than machines that destroy things (like guns); but there is certainly some cool mechanics in a gun (not that much though, but it passes the "minimum of cool possible" test). If all Americans would be like me in that respect, then you claim they all think guns are really cool, while in fact they would immediately ban them.
It's like arguing about movies. You can like a bad movie all you want, but that doesn't change the *fact* that it's bad.
I was still in doubt, but you have just convinced me that you are only trolling. How can you possibly take such a subjective thing as an example of an objective fact?
Hahaha! Here's a lesson for you: when you talk to people, pretend to be in their position, and imagine what effect your words have on them.
I agree that facts are just facts, and what we say about them doesn't change them. However, we have to look around us and find out for ourselves which statements are facts, and which are not. In a discussion, you can explain your reasons for believing that something is true, and so can other people. You listen to each other, point out flaws in the reasoning, and possibly change your reasoning. In some cases, that may result in a different outcome, which means that you no longer believe something, or you started believing it.
So you believe that all Americans love guns. I suppose you have your reasons for believing that. But as long as you don't make them known, nobody is going to start or stop believing anything. Which means you might as well not say it at all. Stating a fact without evidence is only possible if the evidence is trivial and everybody can see it (like "this house is red"). As soon as there is discussion about a supposed fact, you need arguments (evidence) to support your claim.
Anyone who defends guns even to the slightest extent, does think they are cool, even if it is the most minimum of cool possible.
Now you're being silly. I never defended guns, and I don't think I ever will (or wait, I said the police can have them; does that count?), but I do think they are cool. I like machines. I like machines that make things (like 3-D printers) a lot more than machines that destroy things (like guns); but there is certainly some cool mechanics in a gun (not that much though, but it passes the "minimum of cool possible" test). If all Americans would be like me in that respect, then you claim they all think guns are really cool, while in fact they would immediately ban them.
It's like arguing about movies. You can like a bad movie all you want, but that doesn't change the *fact* that it's bad.
I was still in doubt, but you have just convinced me that you are only trolling. How can you possibly take such a subjective thing as an example of an objective fact?
