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They must be enticed in with the idea that they have the chance of winning.
You're talking about a dispute. That can in extreme cases be solved by a higher power, such as a teacher (in school) or a judge (later). There you can win or lose.
You cannot win a discussion. You cannot lose either. If you're doing it right, both sides can learn new things from it. You may in the end have a different opinion than in the beginning (although most of the time no big changes happen).
If you really want to put this in terms of winning and losing, I would say the person who changed their mind most is the winner, because they supposedly learned the most. That still doesn't make the other person the loser.
Some people treat a discussion as a dispute and try to win in the way you describe. Discussing with those people is useless. They will not teach you anything new.
You're talking about a dispute. That can in extreme cases be solved by a higher power, such as a teacher (in school) or a judge (later). There you can win or lose.
You cannot win a discussion. You cannot lose either. If you're doing it right, both sides can learn new things from it. You may in the end have a different opinion than in the beginning (although most of the time no big changes happen).
If you really want to put this in terms of winning and losing, I would say the person who changed their mind most is the winner, because they supposedly learned the most. That still doesn't make the other person the loser.
Some people treat a discussion as a dispute and try to win in the way you describe. Discussing with those people is useless. They will not teach you anything new.