Reply to Re: Stop the rat torture in Newchurch
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Dukie, you presume that you are correct, and you assert that Chrispy and I have psychological problems. That, bluntly put, is useless, and immaterial to what we're talking about. First of all, if you leave your mind closed before an argument begins and hold to your belief stubbornly no matter what reason is shown to you, then of course you'll say, "I'm right though", and refuse clear evidence. Second, you are not a psychologist (as far as I know), and even if you are, you haven't had nearly a complete enough evaluation of either of us to claim we suffer from mental problems. Just using it to make you seem sane and right is not relevant right now.
Anyway, you've all avoided my strongest points in my earlier post.
There are experiments that require live subjects, in order for them to be accurate, and I never said there weren't any companies that didn't test on animals.
Funfact: PETA claimed that milking cows hurt them, and we should stop milking them and drink beer instead.
When I said you don't know much more than what the media tells you, it was based on what you said in earlier posts, like when you said that the Arab world has no impact on my life whatsoever.
I don't believe, and never said anything to imply that I thought, that the Arab world is a direct threat to me, though many government systems and individuals within them are.
Anyway, a point was there are more important issues that require more immediete responses from people than animals rights and environment because they have a more immediete, greater, and direct impact on us, such as genocide, world hunger and poverty, and international conflicts, and I just started this because I didn't really understand why Guinea pig torture was addressed before things like genocide. As you can see, I got carried away, because of various things. Sorry about that.
Just because something isn't entertaining doesn't mean it shouldn't be known by the public. It's the same thing, the same mass murder going on daily. Does it make it okay to overlook it? If muggers kept stealing purses from the elderly in your neighborhood, and the elderly bore you, is it okay to let it happen? What kind of logic are you operating on? Yet you concern yourself more with cuddly animals receiving experiments for the betterment of your lifestyle.
Anyway, I forgot most of my points in typing this, so I'm going to get rid of most of it. Forgive me if I offended anybody or made little sense.
On a final note, stop Guinea pig torture!
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Anyway, you've all avoided my strongest points in my earlier post.
There are experiments that require live subjects, in order for them to be accurate, and I never said there weren't any companies that didn't test on animals.
Funfact: PETA claimed that milking cows hurt them, and we should stop milking them and drink beer instead.

When I said you don't know much more than what the media tells you, it was based on what you said in earlier posts, like when you said that the Arab world has no impact on my life whatsoever.
I don't believe, and never said anything to imply that I thought, that the Arab world is a direct threat to me, though many government systems and individuals within them are.
Anyway, a point was there are more important issues that require more immediete responses from people than animals rights and environment because they have a more immediete, greater, and direct impact on us, such as genocide, world hunger and poverty, and international conflicts, and I just started this because I didn't really understand why Guinea pig torture was addressed before things like genocide. As you can see, I got carried away, because of various things. Sorry about that.
Just because something isn't entertaining doesn't mean it shouldn't be known by the public. It's the same thing, the same mass murder going on daily. Does it make it okay to overlook it? If muggers kept stealing purses from the elderly in your neighborhood, and the elderly bore you, is it okay to let it happen? What kind of logic are you operating on? Yet you concern yourself more with cuddly animals receiving experiments for the betterment of your lifestyle.
Anyway, I forgot most of my points in typing this, so I'm going to get rid of most of it. Forgive me if I offended anybody or made little sense.
On a final note, stop Guinea pig torture!
(Edited for content)