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September 3rd 2009, 07:33 PM
SkeleTony
Krisknox:
Oh dear...
You wrote:
"Everything you are speaking of is from either your own mind, or most likely another, SkeleTony.[/quote]
Both actually and the "other" is actually MANY other skeptics who came before me. Not sure what your point with that was...?
[quote] You believe that there is no God and you want to 'prove religious people wrong' by trying to give them a few pretty words that mean nothing to someone who puts their faith in something that they believe will help them in the long run.[/quote]
I can barely parse that sentence. I do not "believe there is no God". That is like saying that someone who does not believe their own mother is an intergalactic vampire is "believing that his mother is not a vampire and trying to impose that belief on all the people who DO believe there mothers are vampires!
[quote]Without religon, we would have no moral values, no respect for those around us, and alot of people who found their religon after trying to get off of narcotics would still be addicted.[/quote]
False all around. The most successful recovery program for addicts is by FAR Jack Trimpe's Rational Recovery which replaces AA's model with something more sensible and is unapologetic in it's atheism.
And no...morals do not come from religion. They are wired into us biologically through evolution. The fossil of tyranosaurus rex named "Sue" bears unmistakable evidence that this dinosaur suffered a broken leg but recovered from it and eventually died of other causes. The reason being that pack members nursed her back to health(or she could not have survived) and THERE is where the origins of morality lie. We even see it in animals today such as apes and wolves whose packs/families have strict penalties for various actions that go against their rules(such as allowing the alpha male to eat first in the case of wolves and not bashing another ape over the head to get his food in the case of primates.
This is the wrong forum for this but you can email me if you want to continued the discussion.
so Think before you act. it makes you smarter. not bashing something that alot of people are a part of.
Oh dear...
You wrote:
"Everything you are speaking of is from either your own mind, or most likely another, SkeleTony.[/quote]
Both actually and the "other" is actually MANY other skeptics who came before me. Not sure what your point with that was...?
[quote] You believe that there is no God and you want to 'prove religious people wrong' by trying to give them a few pretty words that mean nothing to someone who puts their faith in something that they believe will help them in the long run.[/quote]
I can barely parse that sentence. I do not "believe there is no God". That is like saying that someone who does not believe their own mother is an intergalactic vampire is "believing that his mother is not a vampire and trying to impose that belief on all the people who DO believe there mothers are vampires!
[quote]Without religon, we would have no moral values, no respect for those around us, and alot of people who found their religon after trying to get off of narcotics would still be addicted.[/quote]
False all around. The most successful recovery program for addicts is by FAR Jack Trimpe's Rational Recovery which replaces AA's model with something more sensible and is unapologetic in it's atheism.
And no...morals do not come from religion. They are wired into us biologically through evolution. The fossil of tyranosaurus rex named "Sue" bears unmistakable evidence that this dinosaur suffered a broken leg but recovered from it and eventually died of other causes. The reason being that pack members nursed her back to health(or she could not have survived) and THERE is where the origins of morality lie. We even see it in animals today such as apes and wolves whose packs/families have strict penalties for various actions that go against their rules(such as allowing the alpha male to eat first in the case of wolves and not bashing another ape over the head to get his food in the case of primates.
This is the wrong forum for this but you can email me if you want to continued the discussion.
so Think before you act. it makes you smarter. not bashing something that alot of people are a part of.
