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Beginning of Evil

April 5th 2007, 05:43 PM
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lance
Peasant Male United States
 
From what I've read in the comment's, I guess I'm gonna have to kill Jonny in order to get his dove? Sounds like a lot of leveling up down the road! Also, please read my message about "Attack of the Evil Wizard". I'm thinking this must be a bug in the game? I still get the same response.
April 5th 2007, 05:49 PM
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magicman
Peasant Male Netherlands steam duck
Mmmm, pizza. 
You must make use of the furniture. Get him on the other side of the table from where you are, then hit him over the table.
April 5th 2007, 06:37 PM
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lance
Peasant Male United States
 
Yeah, the sewing machine helped. Question: I just went to Hell, and I'm trying to get to the first church. There is a rock bridge I'm supposed to cross, but can't? Help?
April 5th 2007, 06:47 PM
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rabidwolf9
Peasant Male United States steam
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This is very plain and obvious, have you even tried to figure it out on your own?
There is a village on the western portion of the island (south of where you landed), you go in the house and there is a chest. I'm sure you can handle the rest.

EDIT:
Did you say first church? I thought that was the second church you go to. You might have to go back to the place where you started and find the church there first.
April 5th 2007, 06:58 PM
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magicman
Peasant Male Netherlands steam duck
Mmmm, pizza. 
Except that it's the second church with the rock bridge. The first church can be found on the island you started on.

It has the dreaded priest spiral. Sorry about that.

EDIT: In short: what rabidwolf9 said in his edit.
April 5th 2007, 08:09 PM
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lance
Peasant Male United States
 
When I was running around on first island; the closest thing to a church is that giant tree? The place I am at(1st church to me), all the houses are locked. Guess I have to start over! It figures; my whole days been S#*TY!!
April 5th 2007, 08:39 PM
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rabidwolf9
Peasant Male United States steam
twitch.tv/rabidwolf9 
From the tree you got killed at, go south.
You're stuck on the second island? Theres a cave (along the northern cliffs) you can go in to get to the warp. In the cave you jump down a giant crack.
You'll probably be greatful you went to the wrong island first. Now you'll have a few powerups that'll help a lot

My day has been somewhat crappy too. I almost lost the whole map file to my DMOD
April 5th 2007, 09:08 PM
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lance
Peasant Male United States
 
I See what you guys were talking about. I now think it was to my advantage to go to the wrong church first, I got 2 gold hearts, and defense potion. Now I'm back on my home island. I'm writing this while I wait for more pillbugs. I should level up some more; I don't know how many priest's I have to kill?
April 6th 2007, 07:53 AM
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Slawer
Peasant Male Germany
 
I have a question of BOE, too!
There are so much pristes. How can I kill they faster?
April 6th 2007, 08:54 AM
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lance
Peasant Male United States
 
I need to know the same thing---how many screens of preist's do you have to go thru AND killing them, just to go back and save is mostly a waste of time. Too bad you can't refill your life at one of the fountains, or get a big heart once in a while.
April 6th 2007, 09:06 AM
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Slawer
Peasant Male Germany
 
I refill my life on the monsters little hearts. but it isn't enought!
April 6th 2007, 10:16 AM
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rabidwolf9
Peasant Male United States steam
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It usually helps to hit them to make them all target you and then circle around them to make them form a little group. This works for anything that only uses touch damage.
April 6th 2007, 10:20 AM
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Slawer
Peasant Male Germany
 
Did I make, but I lost too much life...
April 6th 2007, 11:10 AM
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lance
Peasant Male United States
 
Yeah, I use that trick quite often. The problem with the priest's is not much room to move. EEEEHHHHAAAAAAA! A RODEO!
April 6th 2007, 05:19 PM
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lance
Peasant Male United States
 
I HAVE HAD IT!! I fought my way through about 100 priest's, only to find out that I don't have the strength to move the table!! And on top of THAT, the dinks are back again, leaving me stuck. What strength do I have to be? My ATTACK IS-5, DEFENSE-3, MAJIC-1. Unless anyone's got a brain-storm, I'm quitting.
April 6th 2007, 05:23 PM
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rabidwolf9
Peasant Male United States steam
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You punch the table
April 6th 2007, 06:01 PM
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magicman
Peasant Male Netherlands steam duck
Mmmm, pizza. 
Start over and take water from the other fountain.

One of the fountains has holy water, the other one hasn't. Don't follow the path! You will need to battle a knight, which is tedious because of his high defense. Sorry about that.

Giving Anast the real holy water will give you a statboost of +5 Strength, +3 Defense and +1 Magic. This, added to the stats at the beginning of the game, will give you a total strength of 8, which is enough to kill a priest in 2-3 hits (4 if you're unlucky). Ridding the island of pillbugs will give you a levelraise, which you should put in Defense, as this will double the amount of priest-hits you can take. An extra Strength point isn't worth it, and Magic is worthless in the game.
April 6th 2007, 07:48 PM
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lance
Peasant Male United States
 
Well, thanks for the tips, and advice. Right now I'm in a POSITION where I can play it either way. One Dink is at the church, and I DID start over. How would YOU play it? I think I'll go both ways (if I don't screw up while saving my game). Please let me know your thoughts on this. Thanx.
April 6th 2007, 08:18 PM
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magicman
Peasant Male Netherlands steam duck
Mmmm, pizza. 
It was meant to be insanely difficult when bringing the non-real holy water.

Your current stats are 5 Str, 3 Def, 1 Mag. 3 Str is from the start of the game, 1 Def is from the second island. That means you must've leveled for 2 Str, 2 Def and 1 Mag, which is insane, given the low experience that pillbugs and priests give. Starting over and bringing Anast the right water will get you 8 Str, 4 Def, 1 Mag without even having to level (given that you visit the second island).

If you level, choose Defense. This will be good for a total of 5 Def, which results in priests only doing 1/2 damage average.

Yes, this means you'll have to kill that poor guy Johnny again, but once you know the trick to it, I don't think it'll take very long. Also, the priests are a lot easier with 8 Str instead of 5 (2-hit kills are possible, 3-hit kills common) and a Def of 4 instead of 3 (1 damage per hit instead of 2, so you can take twice as many hits before you die).

Also, to get the good water, you'll need to fight a knight. The battle is long and boring, since his defense is high, but it's standard hit-and-run tactics.

To sum it up: If you start over and do it this way, I don't think it'll take more than 15 minutes to get to the point where you are now.
April 6th 2007, 10:22 PM
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lance
Peasant Male United States
 
You talked me into it! I know what's ahead, especially with the priests. What's that about getting extra points for killing ALL the pillbugs? I've done it several times, but haven't noticed any change?
April 6th 2007, 11:01 PM
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lance
Peasant Male United States
 
I have a problem: I can take water out of the other fountain, but when I do, the knight appears standing IN the well?! I can hit him and kill him, but then the screen won't unlock! Is this a bug, or is it intentional? (Some time later): I dumped and reinstalled BOE, the knight's not standing in the fountain anymore, I get to kill him, but NOW the screen won't unlock after I do!
April 7th 2007, 11:01 AM
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lance
Peasant Male United States
 
Did any one else have trouble getting water out of the Sothern fountain? If I fought the guard, then the screen locks stayed up and a ghost guard keeps popping up and hitting me (Ican't hit back). I HAD to get water from the other fountain.
April 7th 2007, 01:50 PM
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magicman
Peasant Male Netherlands steam duck
Mmmm, pizza. 
'tis a bug in the game, and I have sent a workaround to your email a few minutes ago. For those interested, make a text file called 'key-112.c' in the "story" subdir of the "boe" directory (C:\Program Files\Dink Smallwood\boe\story\key-112.c, or wherever you have Dink installed to) that contains:

void main( void )
{
screenlock(0);
kill_this_task();
}

Now whenever you press F1, it'll unlock the screen.
April 7th 2007, 02:11 PM
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lance
Peasant Male United States
 
Another bug? I'm under the church now, and so far I have only seen 2 statues. My problem is I keep getting WARPED back to the same tunnels. Also, there's a rock that ain't movin' Is this supposed to happen? HELP! As far as your last message goes, I haven't checked my mail yet. I hope you explained it clearly, I haven't had much luck with changing files, etc. For instance--cheats don't want to work on this machine.

April 8th 2007, 08:37 PM
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lance
Peasant Male United States
 
Majicman was kind enough to email me a patch for this dmod. After downloading, when I went to install it, I got: "document's format is invalid or not supported". I am a novice when it comes to this kind of stuff, and I was wondering if anyone can tell me step by step how I Could install this: "key-112.c It's supposed to remove screen locks (I keep having trouble at the fountain). If you want you can email me at: ecnal1955@hotmail.com P.S. Recently, I read somewhere that there was a PATCH available, but I'll be danged if I can find it. If anyone knows, then please post it so that I can download it. Thanx.
April 22nd 2007, 02:52 PM
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lance
Peasant Male United States
 
In the catacombs under church #1, every time I go up against the pillbug throwing dude; the game freezes. I tried not doing this part, but, when I talk to the last stone head, it says I need to "bring it a key"?! I'm guessing that I'm supposed to get the key FROM the pillbug dude? Is this right?; or do I get it somewhere else? If it's from the dude, then I guess I have to bag the game, 'cause I can't go any futher! Please let me know, one way or the other. Thanx.
April 29th 2007, 03:41 AM
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Slawer
Peasant Male Germany
 
Yes, I want to have an answer, too... The pillbug dude falls down, too, but he doesn't do anything what must I do?
April 29th 2007, 01:35 PM
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lance
Peasant Male United States
 
Magicman emailed me about NOT hitting the walls when fighting. This didn't work either, because some pillbugs would freeze, and one was walking ON the walls! The frozen bugs could not be harmed, and when the DUDE did come down, he froze too. M.M. also said to email him a saved game and he'd PUT the key in. I emailed him back with a go ahead, explaining that I don't know HOW to send a saved game. I haven't heard back from him yet. Either wait for him to get back to me, or, email him yourself telling him we both have the same problem. Maybe then we can get this resolved?!
April 29th 2007, 01:44 PM
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magicman
Peasant Male Netherlands steam duck
Mmmm, pizza. 
Don't hit the walls when fighting the dude to be safe. I don't know what makes it crash, but it may be it (/me growls at finite state machines). If there's no dude, hit the walls to make the dude come down.

Lance, I have sent a reply (to ecnal) to your previous mail.
April 29th 2007, 07:31 PM
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lance
Peasant Male United States
 
I have been staying in the center of the cave when fighting the bugs, some of them will freeze, and some will be walking ON the walls. When I go for the one on the wall, THAT's when the dude comes down and also freezes. Can you tell me how to send you a saved game so you can allow me to get the key? Also the reason some of your emails haven't been comming thru, might be because I accidently entered my address wrong! I omitted the 1 in: ecnal1955@hotmail.com, so it came up as: ecnal955@homail.com I'll go to my email now and look at your reply, and probably send you another. At least your trying to help (this doesn't always happen)! Thanx.
April 29th 2007, 07:54 PM
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magicman
Peasant Male Netherlands steam duck
Mmmm, pizza. 
I just sent the mail again, once to your AOL and once to your hotmail. I noticed your typo in ecnal955, so that's okay
May 8th 2007, 01:35 AM
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lance
Peasant Male United States
 
I finally got the first artifact! I've gone thru the maze under the second church, and killed the priest that has the fire. Now I'm in a room with a mega potion and a chasm(s.p.). There are 2 paths on my right, but they're both dead ends. So HOW do I get across? Please advise. Thanx.