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How to have a discussion.

August 1st 2013, 06:19 PM
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KrisKnox
Peasant He/Him United States
The site's resident Therian (Dire Wolf, Dragon) 
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I found this thing earlier today and thought it was interesting.
What's everyone's opinion on it?
August 1st 2013, 08:15 PM
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I don't agree about that being how human beings exchange ideas.
August 1st 2013, 08:25 PM
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I will not talk to you about this topic.
August 1st 2013, 10:33 PM
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Discussions like that are too much work. Let's all agree not to discuss anything.
August 2nd 2013, 03:31 PM
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DackFight
Peasant He/Him United States
Making Topics off-track faster then you can say it 
I read it and are we trying to discuss it, if so I vote no. Also when were we "rational" "human" beings.
August 4th 2013, 05:34 AM
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schnapper
Peasant He/Him Heard Island And Mcdonald Islands
Let us save our effort and just lie down and die. 
If someone realises they will have to pay, they will not enter the contract. They must be enticed in with the idea that they have the chance of winning. You can then attempt to discretely convert them to your way of thinking thus winning the game. This is like a game of chess as they will be aiming for the same outcome, except in their favour.
August 4th 2013, 09:55 AM
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shevek
Peasant They/Them Netherlands
Never be afraid to ask, but don't demand an answer 
They must be enticed in with the idea that they have the chance of winning.

You're talking about a dispute. That can in extreme cases be solved by a higher power, such as a teacher (in school) or a judge (later). There you can win or lose.

You cannot win a discussion. You cannot lose either. If you're doing it right, both sides can learn new things from it. You may in the end have a different opinion than in the beginning (although most of the time no big changes happen).

If you really want to put this in terms of winning and losing, I would say the person who changed their mind most is the winner, because they supposedly learned the most. That still doesn't make the other person the loser.

Some people treat a discussion as a dispute and try to win in the way you describe. Discussing with those people is useless. They will not teach you anything new.
August 4th 2013, 12:38 PM
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schnapper
Peasant He/Him Heard Island And Mcdonald Islands
Let us save our effort and just lie down and die. 
They will not teach you anything new.

If you become hyper-defensive, you would block out useful information... your affect would cloud your ability to absorb it.

I think a discussion is always object-oriented, for this reason the objective is achieved one way or another or else the discussion fails to achieve closure. So it is a win-or-lose situation.

If we look at conversation, well, that's different. It could be about anything and serve any purpose. Often the purpose would be to gain rapport or to promote a certain self-image; this would be true in the case of placing value one the receiver. If this value was absent, a conversation may be an investigation into the receiver's potential value or out of a need for self-validation such as an appearance of being social.
August 5th 2013, 02:16 AM
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DackFight
Peasant He/Him United States
Making Topics off-track faster then you can say it 
I hope I don't get in trouble for this, but isn't Pred, a hyper defensive....... dinker.