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February 12th 2006, 07:23 AM
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"The fact is that regardless of what we think there is only ONE reality."
You're confirming my theory more and more this way, my friend

How do you know for sure that what reality tells you is real, is told to everyone as real?

For example, reality tells you grass is green, but reality tells everyone else that grass is in fact orange. How do you know you are the one which is told the correct colour of the grass, and not all the others?

I expect an answer along the lines of "reality tells everyone the same, truly real thing", so here comes another story:

I'm colourblind, and if for some reason the "grass is green" info gets wiped from my brain, I will see it as orange again, as I did 15 years ago. The only way I 'know' grass is green, is because everyone kept telling me it is. That's like propaganda, isn't it? In my case, reality told me grass is orange. Also, I did never "decide" that grass is orange, reality told me. Everyone else told me it was green.

I expect an answer along the lines of "yes, but thanks to your colourblindness, you don't get reality the true way", so here comes another story:

What if not I, but all the others see reality incorrectly? What if I see all the colours the way they really are, and all the others just think there are more colours, and in that way they interpret reality wrongly. The idea that only one person (against 7 billion others) percieves reality the real way is just a statistical improbability, not an impossibility.

Okay, so it has been 'proven' colourblindness is a malfunctioning of the brain/eyes/neural-connection-system (I'm not thát deep into biology, but the idea is that it's 'proven' that it's a malfunctioning). This is also relative. What if, at a certain moment a long, long time ago, everyone saw reality as I do (with orange grass and the inability to discern red berries from green shrubs when running past), and then someone said "Dudes, look! There are red berries in these shrubs! And the grass is green, not orange, you're all wrong, man!". It would have been thought the person was a madman, and locked away or killed (we're talking primitive society here).
Later, when we have the equipment to 'see' the difference between colourblindness (the presumed 'real' case) and non-colourblindness (the hallucinating people), a difference in the brain (or wherever) becomes clear. The non-colourblindness would be labeled as malfunctioning of the brain/eyes/neural-connection-system (or whatever), which makes people see things that aren't there.

Of course, if you don't meet my expectations, feel free to discuss further. You have to admit you like the discussion (at least, I do)

(For the people who think I've double-posted, switch to 'nested', the way this board 'really' is (bad attempt at comic relief, I know)).