Reply to Re: Are there any Objectivists out here?
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September 28th 2005, 06:12 PM
Lurkala
"that is not a good purpose"
To restore a country is not a good purpose to have?
Yes, the means were horrific. But they are not forbidden by Objectivism as evil, as Objectisism allows self-defense and does not protect the weak.
The weak are weak because they choose to be weak by their free will. The people put in gas chambers chose to be there, because if it wasn't their free will, they wouldn't have been there. That is what you are saying when you say that there are no limits on free will placed by other factors.
According to reason, Hitler was doing the right thing. You are scrambling to try to prove otherwise because now we all know that what he did was wrong.
The only way that Hitler's reasoning to justify his purpose can have been wrong, is if the base assumptions he used were flawed. If the Jews actually contributed to the German economy and were not genetically weak, then he was wrong. Then it can be seen clearly that his reasoning is flawed, although it is reasonable from that point on.
If Hitler reasoned that he was right based on this fundamental flaw, then he had no choice but to go to war for what he thought was right, because the reasoning that led him to war after that flaw was reasonable.
This is the limit of logic. Garbage in, garbage out, even with perfect processing.
To restore a country is not a good purpose to have?
Yes, the means were horrific. But they are not forbidden by Objectivism as evil, as Objectisism allows self-defense and does not protect the weak.
The weak are weak because they choose to be weak by their free will. The people put in gas chambers chose to be there, because if it wasn't their free will, they wouldn't have been there. That is what you are saying when you say that there are no limits on free will placed by other factors.
According to reason, Hitler was doing the right thing. You are scrambling to try to prove otherwise because now we all know that what he did was wrong.
The only way that Hitler's reasoning to justify his purpose can have been wrong, is if the base assumptions he used were flawed. If the Jews actually contributed to the German economy and were not genetically weak, then he was wrong. Then it can be seen clearly that his reasoning is flawed, although it is reasonable from that point on.
If Hitler reasoned that he was right based on this fundamental flaw, then he had no choice but to go to war for what he thought was right, because the reasoning that led him to war after that flaw was reasonable.
This is the limit of logic. Garbage in, garbage out, even with perfect processing.
