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Simeon, I did indeed read the article you presented. In my comment, I clearly stated that, yes, there are circumstances in which humans act without personal choice.
It seems, however, that you are desperate to be 100% right at any cost, since you erroneously deny the power of choice in all events.
Now, in regards to "the devil made me do it", you have taken literally a metaphore, an euphemism. I presume that this is because the average Dutch speaker has not come to grips with English's intricacies AKA language barrier. It is a common mistake for people with English as second language to make.
You stated "I don't think the devil or a demon makes someone do it, that's the traditional religious view that people are evil and out of control. That's an outdated view."
Now, when we say "the devil made me do it" we DO NOT mean a literal demonoid forced someone to "sin". It IS NOT a "traditional religious view" (atheist ignorance rears its' ugly head yet again), since most religions believing in Satan (in the Shaitan AKA "adversary" sense of the name) don't believe he is capable of forcing the average Joe Blow to do anything.
What "the devil made me do it" refers to is any adverse situation, experience or event which you (probably deludedly) think left you with no alternative save the course of action which you took.
An example of what I'm saying is "I only hit her because she kept screaming at me." A person is blaming a "demon" (so to speak; not literally per se) to deflect the blame from themself.
It seems, however, that you are desperate to be 100% right at any cost, since you erroneously deny the power of choice in all events.
Now, in regards to "the devil made me do it", you have taken literally a metaphore, an euphemism. I presume that this is because the average Dutch speaker has not come to grips with English's intricacies AKA language barrier. It is a common mistake for people with English as second language to make.
You stated "I don't think the devil or a demon makes someone do it, that's the traditional religious view that people are evil and out of control. That's an outdated view."
Now, when we say "the devil made me do it" we DO NOT mean a literal demonoid forced someone to "sin". It IS NOT a "traditional religious view" (atheist ignorance rears its' ugly head yet again), since most religions believing in Satan (in the Shaitan AKA "adversary" sense of the name) don't believe he is capable of forcing the average Joe Blow to do anything.
What "the devil made me do it" refers to is any adverse situation, experience or event which you (probably deludedly) think left you with no alternative save the course of action which you took.
An example of what I'm saying is "I only hit her because she kept screaming at me." A person is blaming a "demon" (so to speak; not literally per se) to deflect the blame from themself.