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Well, as I said the 'order' created by the church is the cause of the extreme chaos on the other side.
Order incites order, chaos incites chaos in that context is true; what I was trying to say is first the church created some sort of 'order' and the sheep follow. The rebel reaction to this is the exact opposite, which is chaos. Which in turn causes sheep to follow in that chaos. And of course this retroacts the other way in people distinguishing themselves from chaos by creating order or emphasising existing order.
So maybe I should've said it like this: order incites order but in time will create chaos, chaos incites chaos but in time will result in order.
As for stupidity, like I emphasized, smart <> intellect. Although there will always be differences in the interpretation of what is to be considered smart and what not. The way I tend to use it is in a way that points out that being smart has nothing to do with your mental or academical capabilities, but rather with things like common sense andbeing able to think for yourself.
And there is a social aspect to the matter. Laziness.. I think thats less of an issue then you'd think. Lazy to try create ones own views perhaps, but the sheep behaviour in this is fed from the social part, for if social (other people) weren't there in the first place, you couldn't lazily follow whatever other people tell you, because there would be no other people to tell you. In fact the best reaction of a true lazy person is to do nothing, not change at all.
Your example is a very true thing indeed. Its an interesting concept that comes back in so many aspects of every day life. Why do we do some of the things we do? We like some sort of order in our life, a routine. Even if that order is being chaotic, erratic, unpredictable. As long as we're predictable to ourselves and have something to identify ourselves with. Interesting subjects for philosophy on any occasion.
Order incites order, chaos incites chaos in that context is true; what I was trying to say is first the church created some sort of 'order' and the sheep follow. The rebel reaction to this is the exact opposite, which is chaos. Which in turn causes sheep to follow in that chaos. And of course this retroacts the other way in people distinguishing themselves from chaos by creating order or emphasising existing order.
So maybe I should've said it like this: order incites order but in time will create chaos, chaos incites chaos but in time will result in order.
As for stupidity, like I emphasized, smart <> intellect. Although there will always be differences in the interpretation of what is to be considered smart and what not. The way I tend to use it is in a way that points out that being smart has nothing to do with your mental or academical capabilities, but rather with things like common sense andbeing able to think for yourself.
And there is a social aspect to the matter. Laziness.. I think thats less of an issue then you'd think. Lazy to try create ones own views perhaps, but the sheep behaviour in this is fed from the social part, for if social (other people) weren't there in the first place, you couldn't lazily follow whatever other people tell you, because there would be no other people to tell you. In fact the best reaction of a true lazy person is to do nothing, not change at all.
Your example is a very true thing indeed. Its an interesting concept that comes back in so many aspects of every day life. Why do we do some of the things we do? We like some sort of order in our life, a routine. Even if that order is being chaotic, erratic, unpredictable. As long as we're predictable to ourselves and have something to identify ourselves with. Interesting subjects for philosophy on any occasion.
